She “misremembered” in her testimony today. I think their end game here is to blame it all on her (even though she seems to have been minimally involved in the conversation and wasn’t the one who initiated it) because she’s a brown woman who used to be a Democrat.
It'll be interesting to see if anyone gets fired for it. A firing would be an admission of guilt, which Trump is always reluctant to do. But because he isnt mentioned (that much) in this, he might be happy to have someone fired. It wont be Hegseth, the most culpable after Waltz, so take your pick!!
Two things that stand out to me:
1. that an undercover CIA agent was outed to the reporter. Their cover is inherently classified.
2. The target is identified as “top missile guy” this is information that could compromise the success of the mission, and identify sources & methods to his whereabouts
(Sung to rawhide)
Rollin rollin rollin,
Keep those heads a rollin,
Rollin rollin rollin, Rawhide.
Keep rollin rollin rollin,
Although the (war) plans are stolen,
Keep that Signal goin, Rawhide,
Through Pete and Don and Musk,
We really lost the trust,
Wish the Dems were brusque,
This administration will just say it's fabricated ("fake news"). They will never own up to mistakes. They all read from the same Trump playbook of deny deny deny. Then they'll find a reason to send Goldberg to ElSalvador and force Atlantic to pay millions.
They are ar least "attack plans" and the irony is that Hegseth was at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii when the news broke that he had exposed the plan on Signal...
Imagine being so bold, knowing that someone has the proof, the actual messages, and you are like "fuck it, lets just lie and see if we can get away with it."
To be clear, they will get away with this. No punishments. No resignations. Nobody stepping down.
Their incompetence and continued lies make Trump look more incompetent and weak for not firing them all. He will look more impotent the longer it goes on.
This is proof #1 that Hegseth is unfit for the Sec Def position. And that he doesn't seem to understand that these ARE WAR PLANS, is proof #2.
He's unfit and needs to be fired.
I'm not sure why ALL dems in Congress aren't demanding these people be fired immediately. The text I have seen sounded more like teenagers at a drunk party, even insulted our allies along with their "war plans". Dems need to yell, scream, and vote NO on all GOP bills until these people are fired.
At this point, Dems need to stop kidding themselves & grow some spines. ANY legislation from the GOP will be designed to shield the Trump, nothing more. If the Dems are thinking of "protecting" us by playing along with the GOP, they also need to resign. This is why the dems are so low in the polls.
Some of the stuff I signed had WTTE of "10 years and/or $100k fine for EACH INCIDENT of a security breach". I guess maybe I shouldn't have taken that so seriously?
Republicans are gaining ground using their old standard playbook. Twisting truth, manipulating facts, pushing crap out of their mouths for the public to consume.
Directors of the NIA, DOD, FBI are in full coverup mode & Republicans on the Intelligence committee are clearly helping in the coverup🤬
Copy and pasted war plans. Multiple steps to take classified information from a secure platform via cut, copy, paste and drop it in a thread on a commercial app.
I don’t get it. How can they be denying what we see with our own fkn eyes?!?! Oh wait. Jan 6th. That’s right they managed to convince 77 million morons not to beleive their own eyes.
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Remember the last time they started lying on DAY ONE. The lie we all saw with our own fkn eyes?
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It was the largest inauguration crowd in the history of America…PERIOD !!! 🤣
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I see nothing sensitive at all in this text....I have no idea this is a war plan. (super sarcasm) How our intelligence leaders (and the 🍊🤡) say the same is scary, irresposible and people need to lose their jobs.
Minus a few items sure looks like a target Op play by play to me.
Ever heard of the court placing an engine start restriction on a vehicle for someone who’s been arrested for DUI. Hegseth should have the same thing on the door to his office.
This whole thing looked like a drunk in a bar bragging!
No, we need to stop calling for people to resign because only people with honor can be shamed into resignation. They all need to be fired, perp-walked out of the building with their shit in a box, and sent to jail to await trial, just like anyone else who did this would be.
It's not just the APP or the "Plans".
My understanding the APP can't even be installed on an approved device.
So they downloaded the APP onto their PERSONAL Samsung or iPhone or whatever and then used the PUBLICLY available cell/wifi/blutooth (?), none of which are secure.
#ButterEmails
If the glass has a hole in the bottom, no matter how much is poured in it, it will never be half full.
It is true that the problem isn't with Signal itself, Signal can only be as good as the device/system is is on.
You can use Signal without exposing your number. The fact that they aren't using a separate device is their own fuckup, and exactly why you shouldn't use Signal when threatened by state actors.
Still, Signal itself is NOT compromised. It is always active user action that creates those fuckups.
My understanding is they are allowed to use Signal for routine communication such as: "which support staff are attending the briefing" or "I'll be there in 15 minutes it's OK to start the presentation without me" or "so & so is going to call you after the dinner meeting ends"
why does he PUTS random WORDS in CAPS-LOCK LIKE my grandma?
I was trying to see if was only timing highlights, but not even … just random bursts of jubilation …
“Oh! you meant “warplans”! I thought you meant “war” plans! Anyway, this isn’t a war so your argument is invalid.” [group of 4-chan groupies titter in the background]
nawww... nothing to see here... like looking at my library card, isn't it?
Yet the people in your top offices LIED about it, to congress. Yep. You need to turn over congress. Get people with ethics. That likely applies to almost ALL of them.
They have Elon looking into the App now to see what went wrong? WTF please tell your friends to not allow Elon to get involved or he will site technical issues and they will get away with everything! What crap!
So when Hegseth said no war plans were texted; he lied? He's not supposed to lie is he? That doesn't seem right, does it? Perhaps he misremembered (not a real word)! Perhaps he was drunk? Drunk and lying? Take your pick.
Signal-gate is frightening. On the other hand, the fact that so many accept war and the use of the word war in an Orwellian sorta of way is bat-shit-crazy.
Did these strikes get the people they were targeting ?
Because if they did, then it might suggest that those hostile powers who might have been snooping on these messages are even MORE ‘shit’ and incompetent than this Clusterfuck Trump administration … ? 😉😎
Just wait. Soon we will see & hear trump asking his ill-informed MAGA crowds.
"Do you believe me or your lying eyes"?
The answer sure will be - "we believe you & not our lying eyes".
These dumbass amateurs, THOUGHT they are testing trump's latest online war-game - before he offers it to the public to purchase & play war games.
Annual subscription: $59.99.
I disagree. Gallows humor has its moments but not when lives of Americans are literally falling apart to the point where they are ending up in ER rooms from chest pains and other severe health problems from the stress. It's not funny. Only the privileged have time to make jokes. People are suffering
Okay, valid, but there are far more things to be angry and upset about right now than happy about. You gotta take those silver linings when you find them, even if they're tarnished.
Gallows humor is a survival mechanism when lives are literally falling apart. It may not be appropriate, but for some it's necessary to prevent the stress, chest pains and ER visits.
No. The President can attack, but has to notify Congress within 48 hours. And they can't keep troops in place for longer than 60 days without Congress declaring war. Frigging scary huh?
President Biden took responsibility for his staff, there is no reason trump should be held to a lower standard than president Biden. This catastrophic failure is on trump.
Absolutely, what are they talking about and what are they planning in signal chats.
Absolute Incompetent Administration.
Absolutely no accountability.
Absolute Worthless twats.
Fight Fascism with everything you have.
Freedom, Liberty,
and Democracy.
#Fight #Fascism
#Freedom #Liberty #Democracy
Many apps have encryption. Even facebook messenger. The difference between Signal and the other ones with encryption (including Telegram) is that Signal is based in Switzerland, with strong privacy laws.
Has anyone else considered these people are so incompetent especially with tech that Waltz may well have had an assistant who has access to his phone? Deliberate insider destruction of this shit show by adding a journalist who wouldn’t share before the events because they have ethics.
Might wanna hold your money , the Atlantic has some explaining to do why they never verified the info or let anyone know they were publishing a story and how they got it
The system they are using is the same system of coms the last 3 admins used atmnf this isn't the first time info was leaked
This article REALLY nails them, because they're new line of defense was that there were no war plans shared on the messaging service. Pure bullshit, of course.
It is sort of random, but Teen Vogue does a great job of presenting relevant info that young women need on a wide range of topics: gender, identity, sexuality, health, disability, politics.
^^^this. Signal is very useful for unclass and quotidian coordination. This stuff is Top Secret. "It shouldn't be on Signal" is the first great understatement of the post-Pax-Americana.
As a military momma I’m with you. Dismantling the VA and then THIS. I hope the majority of the troops, veterans and their families see that these people don’t care about the troops who serve their country.
Perhaps they meant to include Goldberg, but not that Goldberg. They meant to add the #Mossad intelligence officer they have been dealing with and clicked the wrong Goldberg.
But according to Republicans there's nothing to see here because the mission was successful. Which is about the dumbest answer I've ever heard to a huge national security risk which put our military personnel in harm's way.
Interesting read, not sure I agree with the strike package order and timeline. Tomahawks first, air crews next used to be the correct ordinance deployment. Less risk for humans.
It won’t be long before the entire tRump/MAGA/Musk Party are blaming the reporter for being inadvertently added to the Signal chat. Don’t be surprised IF he is ultimately arrested & prosecuted for some crime he didn’t commit. There is NO bottom of corruption under tRump/MAGA.
There has got to be some way we can get these people out of our government. For the sake of lives and our country. The most important jobs in our country and just anyone can work. Felons, drug addicts, alcoholics, psychos. How? How is there not something in place to disqualify these people?
Please step back and see this for what it is. They broke the law endangered the mission and national security and released a name of a CIA agent in the clear. But in Trump/Putin's mind even this is a success creating more Division/Chaos for our country.
Yesterday the FBI Director was requested to provide an update on status of any investigations involving this fiasco.
What was the response?
Is there an investigation?
But Russian Tulsi Gabbard swore under oath to the American people that NO classified info was in the group text. So is there no consequences for lying under oath to the American people?
That's what I would like to know - as if we didn't all know they were lying, now it's been proven. Under a normal administration, there would be swift and decisive action. Under this regime, they can only seem to deny truth and blame Biden.
When will the joint chiefs arrest these people for endangering American soldiers lives? They lied in senate hearing. They lied and covered up an obvious meeting on an unapproved site. It is treason.
Anyone Caught PUTTING "Target Packages" Onto An Unsecure Server-Should Be Treated Exactly The Same Way As Anyone Caught STEALING Target Packages Off Of An Unsecure Server.
A small but interesting detail: Vance gives an apparently made up statistic about only 3% of US trade going through Suez. Waltz points out that that figure really can't be determined. Then THEY ALL CARRY ON TALKING AS IF IT WAS TRUE ANYWAY.
Trump will say he knows nothing about this which should re-enforce that he is not in charge and his mental state has declined. Obviously that’s what he was saying about Biden right?
TY for sharing! MW thanks folks at MAL. Who is at MAL? Trump or ? 2) now I know Suzie Wiles is religious too.
3) seems a lot of people on that chat, more than necessary for such an op, I would think. ?
The planned spin was:
1 Biden failed (blame the last guy, worked last time, just repeat, everything's their fault)
2 Iran is funding, ( no duh)
Now, they'll try to blame Biden for their slip shod handling of classified information, you know, like teenagers do. Well,
Tommy did it and Jimmy does it!
Lol, idiots talking about how much of an idiot the President is on an open channel with some of the participants IN Moscow just shootin the shit about classified information
and don't get mad at me: You asked how THEY would spin it. They are shitty people and make stuff up all the time while slamming people's ethnicity. It's a book we've all read before.
They're trying to spin it as it's not classified because it doesn't give enough specifics to be used by our enemies. They literally were saying stuff like it "doesn't include longitude or latitude". The other spin is that it's nor "war" plans, it's "attack" plans, like it makes a difference. 🙄
They will prosecute the Atlantic and try to shut it down/bankrupt it for publishing the things they said, weren’t classified, and they may very well succeed.
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What does Putin have on Thomas, Alito & Roberts?
Amateur hour is an overstatement
The current lot don’t cut it.
1. that an undercover CIA agent was outed to the reporter. Their cover is inherently classified.
2. The target is identified as “top missile guy” this is information that could compromise the success of the mission, and identify sources & methods to his whereabouts
Rollin rollin rollin,
Keep those heads a rollin,
Rollin rollin rollin, Rawhide.
Keep rollin rollin rollin,
Although the (war) plans are stolen,
Keep that Signal goin, Rawhide,
Through Pete and Don and Musk,
We really lost the trust,
Wish the Dems were brusque,
And hard to count the cost,
Far too many good things were tossed.
Move 'em on, behead their beast, behead the beast, move 'em out
Primary ‘em, vote ‘em out, vote ‘em out, get ‘em gone, rawhide
Cut 'em out, vote 'em out, ride 'em out, cut 'em out, rawhide.
Rawhide!
My father an AF Officer, (SAC) is rolling in his grave…🤬
Also…It doesn’t count if you use emojis !!
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To be clear, they will get away with this. No punishments. No resignations. Nobody stepping down.
Business as usual in the administration.
He's unfit and needs to be fired.
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/laws/national-security-information
MQ-9s
F-18s
Nope 🙂↔️ these ARE NOT war plans…
Do not look 👀 behind the curtain, said the Wizard 🧙…
Directors of the NIA, DOD, FBI are in full coverup mode & Republicans on the Intelligence committee are clearly helping in the coverup🤬
Remember the last time they started lying on DAY ONE. The lie we all saw with our own fkn eyes?
🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
It was the largest inauguration crowd in the history of America…PERIOD !!! 🤣
🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
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That's a good one
Ever heard of the court placing an engine start restriction on a vehicle for someone who’s been arrested for DUI. Hegseth should have the same thing on the door to his office.
This whole thing looked like a drunk in a bar bragging!
Next time, and there will be a next time, Americans are going to die. This is MAGA.
This administration qualifies...
This is Syops 101
Let's elborate not on the houthis ...
But china plans.
War is in the business for and by business.
Either way this cabal of failures has a dead reckoning heading there way
You cover for one
You are owed
It's Compromat like this
That MAGa thrives on
My understanding the APP can't even be installed on an approved device.
So they downloaded the APP onto their PERSONAL Samsung or iPhone or whatever and then used the PUBLICLY available cell/wifi/blutooth (?), none of which are secure.
#ButterEmails
The Pentagon issued a warning about it, and how it is compromised.
What is known though, that there are certain flaws that can be used to trick unsuspecting (or stupid) users into leaking information.
Also, if your phone is compromised, Signal won't be able to help you.
It is true that the problem isn't with Signal itself, Signal can only be as good as the device/system is is on.
We know everyone's phone number on that chat, along with PIN numbers and passwords that were discovered online. Trivial for state actors to utilize.
Still, Signal itself is NOT compromised. It is always active user action that creates those fuckups.
that kind of thing.
The APP can't even be installed on an approved secure device.
I'm sure they have reams of excuses all cued up.
they use Signal because there's no GOVT record of the text exchange
how many other Signal convos have gone on .. OFF THE RECORD?
I was trying to see if was only timing highlights, but not even … just random bursts of jubilation …
They should all be FORCED to resign.
#signal #signalgate
https://www.indy100.com/politics/national-security-advisor-mike-waltz-claims-signal-app-hacked-goldberg
Yet the people in your top offices LIED about it, to congress. Yep. You need to turn over congress. Get people with ethics. That likely applies to almost ALL of them.
Much admiration.
This wasn’t a one off.
“How dumb is Pete Hegseth? Pete Hegseth is so dumb he doesn’t know what a war plan is.”
I mean I guess that’s better than being a lying, drunken, woman abusing scumbag … Maybe not.
Signal-gate is frightening. On the other hand, the fact that so many accept war and the use of the word war in an Orwellian sorta of way is bat-shit-crazy.
Did these strikes get the people they were targeting ?
Because if they did, then it might suggest that those hostile powers who might have been snooping on these messages are even MORE ‘shit’ and incompetent than this Clusterfuck Trump administration … ? 😉😎
"Do you believe me or your lying eyes"?
The answer sure will be - "we believe you & not our lying eyes".
These dumbass amateurs, THOUGHT they are testing trump's latest online war-game - before he offers it to the public to purchase & play war games.
Annual subscription: $59.99.
Please. Give 'em a break. They're just fucking stupid.
But get rid of them for not taking the game seriously.
Absolute Incompetent Administration.
Absolutely no accountability.
Absolute Worthless twats.
Fight Fascism with everything you have.
Freedom, Liberty,
and Democracy.
#Fight #Fascism
#Freedom #Liberty #Democracy
Uh-oh
Fucking awesome!!
The system they are using is the same system of coms the last 3 admins used atmnf this isn't the first time info was leaked
This article REALLY nails them, because they're new line of defense was that there were no war plans shared on the messaging service. Pure bullshit, of course.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/
How much FAITH do you have in DoD leadership ?
And would you support or encourage your childs enlistment ?
It was a secret military operation, not war plans. Libtards.
There and lied to Congress.
Impeachment for Trump and fire all the rest of them.
Then Lying About It?
Pete Hegseth IS A NATIONAL SECURITY RISK
#Vote
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Is that one of the questions on their job application? Can you lie at the drop of a hat?!
WTF MAGAs - you really know how to pick 'em!
What was the response?
Is there an investigation?
Sure, Jan….or….Tulsi, as it were.
(And Ratcliffe)
They are forever attached to this shit show.
Well done dum dums
They added a journalist to the group.
3) seems a lot of people on that chat, more than necessary for such an op, I would think. ?
1 Biden failed (blame the last guy, worked last time, just repeat, everything's their fault)
2 Iran is funding, ( no duh)
Now, they'll try to blame Biden for their slip shod handling of classified information, you know, like teenagers do. Well,
Tommy did it and Jimmy does it!
They are going for democracy's throat. Just think what isn't being put out in the open.
Plan, organize, follow history. Unfortunately words aren't always enough! Time to get moving.
These people are trying to take over states permanently to consolidate more power. No matter how small every move they make has meaning.
It starts with us each of us. We must bring others to the understanding there is only one way to remove a fascist. Turn to history we need to unite!
Remember what happened to Gawker.