I wonder if Kier's Labour will do their best to separate trans people from gay people with propaganda, or if they'll start openly attacking gay people too. It has to be one of those, once they realise how strong the LGBT bloc is
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They're just following whatever the US does in terms of culture wars. There's no doubt that LGB people will start to be demonised more heavily once they've removed all trans rights.
I was marching against them taking us to war in Iraq 22 years ago. The only time I've felt good voting for them was my first ever vote in 97,they've shown their arse constantly since then,they hate the "communities" they claim to have worked for.
I'm afraid they are on their way already to "separate the LGB from the T" because "totally different". And there is a minority which supports that thinking, unfortunately.
It won't work in practice (see critique of UKSC and EHRC), but as propaganda for the underinformed populace? They'll try.
Rosie Duffield and Ash Regan have both pointed to surrogacy as a target, if you watch GCs on twitter they love to pile on gay male couples with surrogate kids, so I predict that becoming a big culture war out of nowhere. It's an evangelical priority.
Best of luck to the christo-fascists specifically getting surrogacy restricted to, as they would define it, opposite sex couples here and in Western Europe. That’ll no doubt have every legal challenge imaginable thrown at it if any govt was stupid enough to try. Which I admit they could be.
There’s loads who hate any male couples who are LGBTQ+, they seem to think the women were either tricked into surrogacy or somehow forced but never acknowledge a women chooses to be a surrogate
It all comes back to the fact that GC’s hold the same misogynistic views of women as far right religious figures: womanhood is defined by motherhood, & if a woman chooses to forgo that “defining characteristic”, she is either a traitor or she is a victim of external manipulation.
They’ll probably start by offering a trans-exclusionary ban on conversion practices. Wes will then tell the LGBT community how Labour are supporting everyone. Obviously, they can’t include us in the ban as Cass thinks it’s great and best practice for the NHS etc. It won’t work!
Then they have chosen to believe that the 'democratic socialism' of the movement and membership is somehow manifested through the national socialism of Keir Starmer
The latter. TERFs have already started going after gay people. I am cis & gay and in all the interactions I’ve had with GCs, the homophobia comes out almost immediately. Plus Rowling has already tweeted out how gay men who have kids via surrogate are “rapists & appropriators” of women’s bodies
Those who claim to wanna fight the erasure of gays and for LGB are always erasing gays, biphobic amd homophobic, transphobia is effectively twinned with biphobia, there’s a guy who they are always homophobic too and cos of pronouns thinks he’s a woman
Probably the latter, I think they were hoping for division, but being kicked out of every Pride going seems to have taken them by surprise so now it's gonna have to be all or nothing.
They hate LGBTQ+, they don’t care who’s harmed, abused, attacked or murdered, they’ve already stopped LGBTQ+ representation that was recommended and stuff under Corbyn
Think they will try to divide trans people from the wider LGBTQ community, I don’t think it will in general, although I suspect there will be some who fall for it🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
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Wondering how long until they start wanting to re implement section 28 to really make the transition into torries obvious
It won't work in practice (see critique of UKSC and EHRC), but as propaganda for the underinformed populace? They'll try.