I’ve been thinking about why I’m so angry at commentators who say Musk is acting as a Nazi to troll & as a joke. I realized it’s because I’ve spent YEARS trying to get media to take Musk’s antisemitism seriously, only to see that after they finally notice, they’ve found a way to downplay it again. - ThreadSky

eladn.bsky.social • 98 days ago

I’ve been thinking about why I’m so angry at commentators who say Musk is acting as a Nazi to troll & as a joke.

I realized it’s because I’ve spent YEARS trying to get media to take Musk’s antisemitism seriously, only to see that after they finally notice, they’ve found a way to downplay it again.

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owenwithee.bsky.social•98 days ago

Both things can be absolutely true and probably are. Here is an insightful piece about that subject.

Trolling doesn’t mean they don’t believe it.

eladn.bsky.social•98 days ago

Yes, this is the point. It’s trolling AND absolute belief. I wrote about it as well, in a thread in response to one of these irresponsible pieces:

https://bsky.app/profile/eladn.bsky.social/post/3lgji5kxirc2k

persianx6.bsky.social•98 days ago

If anything, the modern far right is extremely nihilist -- recycled humor belays a world view that nothing matters.

In essence, their humor is their world view.

drettibmed.bsky.social•97 days ago

https://youtu.be/NjWl_RNDMSA?si=SvP8-JBiNeLGVKQ2

eladn.bsky.social•98 days ago

For the record, it’s of course not just his antisemitism. It’s his technocratic fascism. His xenophobia, transphobia, racism, that are all tied into the antisemitism. All acted out seriously by him.

And still. Still people downplay it.

janetw65.bsky.social•97 days ago

There is the problem, other forms of racism have been permitted for decades.

Also many people saying it is a nazi salute were quiet until now.

eladn.bsky.social•98 days ago

What is particularly maddening about it is that they are genuinely in this struggle for democracy as well, and against bigotry. They are not (purposeful) propagandists, they are on our side and are positioned to help make a difference. They have a role to play.

So them failing has more power.

eladn.bsky.social•98 days ago

Finally, the other aspect here: they were so close. So many now are SO close to seeing it. They are condemning it, thankfully, instead of not even looking.

And then they take the right turn to “trolling.” Which makes it even harder to push back on, because it seems like we’re aligned. We aren’t.

eladn.bsky.social•98 days ago

One final quick note: Musk *is* trolling. The issue is if you see the trolling as a *lack* of belief as opposed to just the opposite.

I wrote a short thread on it here last time I was fuming:

https://bsky.app/profile/eladn.bsky.social/post/3lgji5kxirc2k

manuel-herrick.bsky.social•98 days ago

There's another piece that I don't see talked about as much either: that this is his plan to make the racist vote more reliable. Maybe it's just an obvious implication. But either way it's a sign that he'll be the de facto candidate in every foreseeable federal (and many state-level) election.

comgeek39.bsky.social•97 days ago

Invoking @kenwhite.bsky.social’s Rule of GOATS here

jennvg.bsky.social•98 days ago

This is the part I find so irritating. Trolling as ideological cover has been a strategy going back a century. He's both buffoon and techno-fascist. Buffoonery makes him MORE dangerous.

maggiekat.bsky.social•98 days ago

nonajabiznez.bsky.social•98 days ago

I really need my people to understand that "he did it bc he's an antisemite" and "he did it to troll folks" are part of the same exact ideology. There is no significant difference.

sunnieskye.bsky.social•98 days ago

Words do matter.

lo-a.bsky.social•98 days ago

Exactly.

nashvilleresist.bsky.social•98 days ago

Where can we find out more about his other instances of this kind of behavior? Gonna do our best to try to help.

eladn.bsky.social•98 days ago

I’m working on a timeline, but for now you can see my archive of tweets covering his antisemitism here. I also have a few articles on it.

https://bsky.app/search?q=from%3Aeladarchive.bsky.social+musk

veggiemojo.bsky.social•97 days ago

I can't open that link. Is there another way to look at your archive of tweets?

lizardg.bsky.social•97 days ago

I couldn't open it either, but I found by holding my finger down on the link in the box, I got the option to copy the url. Pasting that into my browser worked.

That was on an Android phone, it might be different for iPhone and no idea for desktop (maybe right click?). But I hope that helped!

veggiemojo.bsky.social•97 days ago

So nice of you to explain that! Thanks so much!

nashvilleresist.bsky.social•98 days ago

Thanks so much. We’ll take some notes!

eladn.bsky.social•98 days ago

Thank you for asking!

nashvilleresist.bsky.social•98 days ago

We’ve been having a Nazi problem here in Nashville as you may have seen on the news. Trying to make sure we have bases covered in part to protect our local communities.

celeste.lgbt•98 days ago

It’s all intentional.

Our media has been defanged on purpose to enable State power to be left held unaccountable.

It’s the inevitable consequence of 50+ years of neoliberalism and governmental attacks on social movements.

booktweeting.bsky.social•97 days ago

just to add misogyny, homophobia, ableism, and ageism to his basket of deplorablenesses

I think his profound misogyny is also too often overlooked

delbertgseasons.bsky.social•98 days ago

In a way, Hitler was trolling too

dconrad.bsky.social•98 days ago

Rule of goats Moral of Mother Night
🤝
It doesn't matter if you
were "doing it to troll"

buckscience.bsky.social•97 days ago

How the fuck is standing on a stage, giving a Nazi salute, any kind of joke? or courting the Nazi fringe in Germany? or minimizing the institution of apartheid in South Africa?

How do you dismiss those things as a "troll" or "joke"?

rabbijill.bsky.social•98 days ago

The ADL didn’t help.

delbertgseasons.bsky.social•98 days ago

Well they helped Musk

rabbijill.bsky.social•97 days ago

Yes they did

belcanto78.bsky.social•97 days ago

Yes, thank you. If it's a "joke" then what, pray tell, is the punchline supposed to be?

charlessumner-rino.bsky.social•98 days ago

It is infuriating how so much behavior is considered a one off or an isolated event, again, and again. At what point do we recognize the pattern of a behavior is what it is?

I mean, he is considered a genius, in spite of so many signs pointing otherwise.

randy-raccoon.bsky.social•98 days ago

Their intention is to make you angry and confused. That's the whole deal. Show you a red pen and call it blue and then accuse you of being delusional and then delight in your frustration.

eyelessgame.bsky.social•98 days ago

People have forgotten the goatfucker rule for nazis. If you fuck a goat, even if you do it as a joke, even if you do it to troll, you're still a goatfucker.

dorkuslane.bsky.social•98 days ago

And I miss the days that someone who even ‘joked’ about being a Nazi was sone in media, business, or politics. Now it’s oh it’s just a joke. WTAF with our morally repugnant country.

catznjam.bsky.social•98 days ago

https://youtube.com/shorts/h9ytfBg953Q?si=jrvI64GKrZr7Ku_0

porksodaenthusiast.bsky.social•98 days ago

news media can't call flagrant racism as racism when it happens so sadly it's the same case with blatant and upfront anti-Semitism. Wonder if the NY Times called Henry Ford dishing out the Protocols as "Henry Ford promotes controversial literature to all of his workers"

delbertgseasons.bsky.social•98 days ago

1933

duncanjcraig.bsky.social•98 days ago

Elon’s (American-born) maternal grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, only moved to South Africa in 1950 because he loved fascism and apartheid so much.

None of this is a bit. Believe people when they tell you who they are.

thmorris.bsky.social•98 days ago

I am somewhat appalled by Jews who embrace Donald Trump simply because he hates Muslims, never once acknowledging that he hates them just as much.

delbertgseasons.bsky.social•98 days ago

He kind of likes Miriam Adelson. She’s his piggy bank and that ain’t kosher

badpacifist.bsky.social•97 days ago

They've been treating him like a genius and a hero for so long that they can't fathom admitting they've been wrong about him the whole time.

shwillis.bsky.social•98 days ago

I dunno what to say when the republicans did this at cpac in 2021 i thought it was pretty fucking obvious they had moved past dog whistling. Here we are now and what the fuck. And even those in the media who commenting on it with any honesty fail to talk about how elons stunt now...

shwillis.bsky.social•98 days ago

An no one in the media is connecting elons shit now to this stunt they did back in 2021 or any of the million other things the republicans and their sphere of support have done that make it plainly obvious they are nazis with nazi agendas. Peoples brains are fucking cooked.

persianx6.bsky.social•98 days ago

You should be angry at these commentators because they're normalizing his face-value intent by claiming he is joking.

There is little to no difference between what Musk desires as policy, and the Nazis. People have incomplete or faulty memories of the Nazis. But... its there.

nagromw.bsky.social•97 days ago

Never mind the fact that trolls “pretending” to be nazis are usually, if not always, just actual nazis.

kibbitz.bsky.social•98 days ago

It's deliberate. The media has been co-opted. It's part of the Russian plan.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-115SPRT28110/pdf/CPRT-115SPRT28110.pd

eridyn.bsky.social•98 days ago

All too fitting that your link doesn't resolve.

If you have the full URL for what you were trying to share, try checking for it on the internet archive.

eridyn.bsky.social•98 days ago

Wait - the link is only broken because you dropped part of the file extension.

Here's the corrected URL and document.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-115SPRT28110/pdf/CPRT-115SPRT28110.pdf

kibbitz.bsky.social•98 days ago

My apologies. Mistakes happen.
Thanks for the assist!!

soog.bsky.social•98 days ago

😡

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