I agree with Trump pardoning Ross Ulbricht. I've followed that story for a long time and the way his sentence was contrived seems outrageous. So Trump has done a few dozen things I disagree with so far, and this one that I agree with.
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Resentencing would be the order, then yes? Not pardoning. Plus, he didn’t give a shit about the guys sentencing. He gave a shit about the prosecutors who went after him (which he noted were some of the same who was involved with his cases). It was just vengeance to him. He had no morality about it.
If the sentence was too harsh, then Trump could have commuted it, but, instead, he gave him full and unconditional pardon. That wipes away everything, like he never committed a crime. Is that justice?
1. Trump said drug dealers should get death penalty.
2. At least 6 people lost their lives due to drugs purchased
3. How many people were hacked, identities stolen thanks to his site?
4. He solicited the murders of several people
I think you need to provide clarity to your followers. Because what I see is a criminal running a criminal enterprise on the dark web. Unless there is something we are missing. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I have tried to get anyone on the left with a bigger platform to talk with me for some very important intel about what the right wingers/foreign actors are doing on YT before the inaug.Success rate 0.Maybe after someone would randomly stumble upon my post and dm me.Promise no contact if u say no
According to Trump’s statement, he pardoned Ulbricht due to all the support he receive from the Libertarians. So, this is basically a Quid Pro Quo. Not sure I can agree with you here, David because Libertarians suck ass.
David what are you doing???
Are you trying to normalize Trump, as legacy media is doing??? This reprobate has no redeeming qualities, if something good ever comes from his actions it would be accidental. His motivations are always grievence & vengence.
I have followed David on U-Tube and have had some minor disagreements in the past, but he's doing the same thing he accused Joe & Mika of doing pandering to Trump, I am seriously considering of unfollowing him, or completely deleting him as I did Joe & Mika.
I don't know how he survives this!!
When I was about 13 my dad had a friend who survived the holocaust talk to me. Not being Jewish I had questions. To this day I remember the tattoo on his arm. It was rushed and ugly. He taught me about the evil and cruelty of the Nazis.
Nazis are not human they are demons.
Nazis should not exist.
Perhaps the sentence was too long, but a full pardon was also wrong. To reduce a sentence perceived to be too long, a commutation would be the corrective measure.
Did you actually read the charges? What was outrageous about his sentencing? Do you think it was longer b/c he tried to kill the witnesses? (Murder for hire payments)
How could you possibly agree this guy should be full pardon?
Do you think he was discriminated against or couldn’t afford lawyer?
The sentence may have been excessive, but if the facts of the case are correct and he facilitated the sale of drugs, then maybe a better outcome would have to commuted the sentence to time served. Just saying.
I did do some research on this after my reply to Mr Pakman and I agree that with just the solicitation for murder, I feel that more jail time was needed. My research didn’t reveal if any of those murders were carried out, but the intent was there.
Well “thanks” for giving him a tick pakman. Wonderful, hope it fills you with great satisfaction to know you’re just a regular dude doing the right thing. It’s a shame it does nothing to reflect the disgusting nature of the guy you claim to of done something you “agree” with. Wrong time to be nice.
So you agree with the release (yes the sentence remains on his record) of major drug dealer who created a system that would make Pablo Escobar jealous? I guess.
Watch out @davidpakman.bsky.social your brain doesn’t belong to you. It belongs to them. Thinking for yourself is outlawed in this community. Respect to someone who attempts to look at things objectively.
Trump is brilliantly using pardoning power to send messages to his supporters on day one. Not many actions a president takes can have as immediate an impact as letting an imprisoned person go free. It sends a powerful message and it definitely looks like “getting things done.”
I would agree. He deserves all the ridicule but he’s very effective at giving the Cult what they want. Their loyalty will increase and he will ask them to commit more crimes. Thinking they’ll be pardoned.
Exactly!!
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can also make you commit atrocities!!
That's what Trump has done, and you're correct he has increased their loyality by this act, he's getting his own personal Gestapo's ready to commit more crimes in the future. Criminals pardoning criminals.
"Ulbricht had paid $730,000 in murder-for-hire deals targeting at least five people, because they purportedly threatened to reveal the Silk Road enterprise."
I don't care much about his business but I don't think the right to conspire to commit murder is some kind of Libertarian reform demand.
D, stop. No credit needs to be given to that fuck in even the smallest facet. Republicans have moved past the point of no return, it's time to join them. No more "oh but it's not ALL bad". Idc if trump cures cancer, you CANNOT give that subhuman fuck an inch.
At least six overdose deaths were attributed directly to his drugs. In my state, if a drug dealers drugs causes an overdose they can be charged for murder.
Ulbricht made a dark web platform for the buying and selling of hard drugs for crypto. It's only fair to assume that someone has overdosed as a result of this.
Please inform yourself, also if you are a liberal you should want justice reform and want people to be able seek parole.... there's plenty to read about this case.
These overdose deaths included Jordan M., a 27-year old Microsoft employee who was found unresponsive in front of his computer, which was logged onto Silk Road at the time, and died as a result of heroin and other prescription drugs that he had ordered from Silk Road.
Preston B., from Perth, Australia, and Alejandro N., from Camino, California, both 16 years old, died as a result of taking 25i-NBOMe, a powerful synthetic drug designed to mimic LSD (commonly referred to as “N-Bomb”), which was purchased from Silk Road.
Additional victims included Bryan B., a 25-year old from Boston, Massachussetts, and Scott W., a 36-year old from Australia, who both died as a result of heroin purchased from Silk Road,
Southern District of New York | Ross Ulbricht, A/K/A “Dread Pirate Roberts,” Sentenced In Manhattan Federal Court To Life In Prison | United States Department of Justice https://search.app/gA7jc2Dmib4MzJTZ9
So maybe you can explain what about his sentencing relative to his crimes (which Trump has declared should be capital offenses) you feel warranted a pardon??
Can you explain why you disagreed with Ross Ulbricht's sentencing? Do you think he should have gotten less jail time or do you think he shouldn't have been convicted at all?
So you're gonna join Cenk and Ana in the "Well, Trump's kinda doin stuff I like" tour? F you then. The last time you were relevant is when you ripped off Sam Seder's backdrop. ,|,,
Brah our country is being destroyed and republicans literally couldn’t give Biden credit for a single thing. Enough with the “he does some things I agree with” schtick
I would love to live in a healthy 2 party system but we don’t. One party had the winning strategy and one didn’t. Why the fuck should we have to give Trump credit ever
yeah I'm on the left, thought the same thing when i read up an the case. I rarely give Trump the benifet of the Doubt, but probably better to focus On the Clear cases of overeach of power
A MAJOR drug kingpin who put out a hit on a federal witness only deserves 16 years and a full pardon?? So he can go sit on a beach and enjoy the billions of illicit profits he stashed away???
This will be a deserved unfollow. You have lost the plot.
Ross hired two contract killers and believed the hits had been carried out while being one of the largest drug dealers in the US. Fortunately, he was conned. That does not change his intent.
I disagree with you. Someone who developed a dark web for illegal activities such as drug trafficking (which has great impacts on the society) should not get away unpunished.
I disagree. Ross Ulbricht's Silk Road was a illegal operation that facilitated drug trafficking and caused harm. His sentence was lengthy, but it reflects the seriousness of his crimes.
Hermano you should be pointing at the hypocrisy of a "tough on crime" president who campaigned on executing drug dealers, freeing a guy that facilitated drug dealing and got rich from it.
They're fascist hypocrites and he's on their side. If he defects, Trump DOJ prosecutes and weak libs in federal law enforcement and in the judiciary all join.
The man ran a marketplace that enabled a lot of very serious crime including the sale of hard drugs that destroy peoples lives, and according to the judge tried to hire assassins.
And outside of the time he has already served he is now free of all legal consequences for those actions.
Well, just remember Hitler did some good things too. I think the same can be said for other evil men like Putin, the Kim’s, Stalin, Darth Vader. He may in fact accomplish some things we all agree with, but none of it will outweigh the disastrous consequences of his other actions.
This is a wildly inappropriate take it’s been less than a week and they are already down playing Nazi salutes at the capitol…we don’t need devils advocates for “good” things trumps doing because they all come with a cost and that cost will be lives.
Are you out of you friggin mind!
I'm starting to believe you are an example of an intelligent moron. You have always been wishy-washy in my opinion. This two sides shit is why America is so screwed up.
That's like saying Hitler did some good things.
Get your heads out of your asses.
There is no talking or reasoning with Nazis.
50+ years ago, a holocaust survivor explained how evil and cruel the Nazis were. To this day, I remember that awful tattoo on his arm.
WAKE TO FUCK UP AMERICA.
David. Get out of the bubble!
They are Nazis.
America is a Fascist Oligarchy.
Accept it.
Three fronts:
1. Political and legal
2. Public protest and outcry
3. Antifa, doing the wet work just like the French resistance in ww2.
No rules!
This is why you have a 2nd Amendment.
Use the damb thing.
So? Hitler probably gave good relationship advice to his mates and loved his dogs but that doesn't MEAN anything because of the thousand other villainous actions.
We already know the reasons. He promised to free Ulbricht at the Libertarian convention, when the Libertarians threw their support behind him and asked him to do it. He also wanted to spite Ulbricht's prosecutors and investigators, who had also investigated him. And he wanted that sweet crypto cash.
I have been following snippets of yours for about two years. I have to say that you are a very honest and fair man and I appreciate that very much. Have a great rest of your Wednesday.
Trump has previously said he wants the death penalty for drug dealers, but then pardons Ross Ulbricht, the creator of a black market business that facilitated $183 million in illegal drug transactions. I guess the color of your skin really does matter.
Well I’ll be unfollowing you after this one.. it’s only a matter of before more caucasians start to see the good in him. Just like in Germany .. peace ✌🏽
I’m so disgusted. He must want to be on their pay roll. Another lowkey Aaron Parnas. Thats why these coming days, months & years pay VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to those who trys to reach left side people to dedemonize Trump & his cabinet. Literally unfollowed him. 😂 and I’ll do more, whoever wants it ✌🏽
Exactly why they love Elon and Trump but don’t say shit about Elon doing the German salute.. therefore fake jews. I heard Niya who doesn’t even take care of the Holocaust survivors that are in Israel right now they’re living in poor filth. Zionist is coverup for masad & APAC … 2/2
He’s Zionist and openly admits it. His father was Trump right hand man too. Doing jail time for election fraud interference.. Not the same as Jews and I’ll die on hill for that. True Jews know what displacement feels like, Zionist are a pledge to the world. 1/2
2/2 Zionist are not the same as those who have suffered, I think they’re a cover up for Masad & AIPAC. Which is the same agency JFK wanted to mark down as foreign agents. next thing you know he’s shot in the head. America was sold out a long time ago. I dont trust anyone reppin “Zionist” u shouldn’t
Um, MAGA is on the news calling to attack the cartels on Mexican soil using our military (which is essentially declaring war on Mexico). -Yet it’s okay to pardon a U.S. drug dealer who contributed significantly to the problem?
I always learn something new from you David. I ought to thank you for my linguistic advances. Contrived is new for me. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, English just isn't my main language.
I too agree with Trump on a few cases. Why is the US always paying more than other countries? NATO, WHO.
Would love to hear you explain this further. From what I've seen of the Ulbricht case when I looked into it years ago I really didn't feel any doubts about the sentence at all. And I used to use silkroad to buy weed lmao. So I'm fairly partial towards him even tbh.
Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said: “Make no mistake: Ulbricht was a drug dealer and criminal profiteer who exploited people’s addictions and contributed to the deaths of at least six young people.
to September 2013, law enforcement agents made more than 60 individual undercover purchases of controlled substances from Silk Road vendors. These purchases included heroin, cocaine, ecstasy, and LSD, among other illegal drugs,
Elon and Trump also run an online marketplace specifically intended for selling illegal substances where they take a cut of all drug sales? They've both placed hits on multiple people? Then I guess they should be in prison... well obviously Trump should be for other things but also for that.
Wow dude why would you support freeing a child porn trafficker that hired hitmen? I dont think we should be following you anymore lol. Words have meaning buddy.
Nope. Pardoning a known drug cartel leader who sought hidden to execute witnesses against him and facilitated dozens of deaths with his illegal drug ring on the same day he declares using our military to "take out" Mexican drug cartels just REEKS with hypocrisy.
David, shut up. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities. None. Don't give him a single ounce of credit. It's the same argument as 'Hitler was a good orator'
Lmao David says one positive thing about Trump and his audience goes insane!!! Remember in 2016 when Trump and Clinton both gave one positive quality of the other person during a debate? That's what we need from both sides right now.
You could compliment Trump on not immediately selling out Ukraine day one. Pretty weak tea. But I see no possible way to spin this pardon as a good thing.
I haven’t followed the story. However, the fact that “Libertarians,” cryptocurrency fans and RFK Jr. were behind the push to get this guy pardoned is, by itself, a huge red flag for me. (“Libertarians” is in quotes because only billionaires would have any liberty if their ideas were implemented.)
The only intelligent thing Matt Gatez has ever said was when he was standing in Trump's highly exclusive club for billionaires and claimed it was the epicenter of the American populist movement.
Please explain your reasoning or post a link to your information. I am curious how you have come that conclusion. Just a quick google search and it looks like he has done some pretty awful stuff and needs to be behind bars.
He was charged with essentially running a website that sold drugs and received double life sentence plus 40 years no parole. That's a little harsh, no?
He created a virtual storefront for vendors of child sex trafficking, there's nothing that can excuse that, NOTHING! Ross Ulbricht knew what he was doing, he doesn't deserve to walk freely in society. Maybe the universe will correct this by him getting Luigi'd.
“We don’t allow the sale of anything that’s main purpose is to harm innocent people, or that it was necessary to harm innocent people to bring it to market.”
@davidpakman.bsky.social posts one thing out of 55,000 ant-Trump things over all these years and everyones ready to Cenk him! Cenk has kind of gone off the deepend, but he's right when he says a lot of people on the left will ostracize anyone for having a 5% (or less in this case) differing opinion.
I think it's more that if you're going to pick a thing you feel Trump is right about, "They were too harsh to the internet salesman equivalent of Al Capone" is, shall we say, probably not the right thing to pick.
I'm not going to unfollow him right now, but I am going to start being cautious to see if it becomes a pattern and go "there's still time to delete this, dude".
It was the 5 murder for hire allegations and evidence that bumped his sentence to life. Can't say I disagree with that sentencing. In any event, he probably has a job with 'X' now.
Which would not have happened if the guy had not used crypto and Trump had not fallen in love with crypto because he saw the enormous potential of it for new grifts. So he certainly did not mean to do "a good thing" based on any moral considerations.
Now is not the time to give ground like a spineless liberal, we are in a war for the future of this country. Make no mistake. Neo-Nazis are in power and we're free falling into autocracy. Any eluding to a 'good decision' made by Trump is holding water for the ethnic cleansers.
Completely disagree with you, @davidpakman.bsky.social Ulbricht profited greatly from facilitating illegal activities, including drugs that caused deaths. Did Trump even know who he was pardoning? I usually appreciate your perspective, but I need more explanation for your praise.
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Dude deserves his debt to society.
2. At least 6 people lost their lives due to drugs purchased
3. How many people were hacked, identities stolen thanks to his site?
4. He solicited the murders of several people
1 month jury trial, upheld on appeal.
A commutation probably would have been more appropriate, but Trump seems to be on a pardoning spree.
Are you trying to normalize Trump, as legacy media is doing??? This reprobate has no redeeming qualities, if something good ever comes from his actions it would be accidental. His motivations are always grievence & vengence.
I always thought he was too wishy-washy but this it just pandering.
He's had lost his credibility.
I don't know how he survives this!!
But he always lacked the guts to go hard.
This was to be expected.
Nazis are not human they are demons.
Nazis should not exist.
Kinda’ sad to see so little effort from you and on here from legitimate questions from people that probably did the same as me.
Is right twice a day.
Trump?
How could you possibly agree this guy should be full pardon?
Do you think he was discriminated against or couldn’t afford lawyer?
He had a month long jury trial & the verdict was upheld on appeal.
I admittedly know next to nothing about this particular circumstance.
Vamos, David, dejate de joder 🙄
Weird man. You don’t have to give him credit for anything, fyi
https://bsky.app/profile/pauleric70.bsky.social/post/3lg4ykwyj2s2y
Don't weaken!
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can also make you commit atrocities!!
That's what Trump has done, and you're correct he has increased their loyality by this act, he's getting his own personal Gestapo's ready to commit more crimes in the future. Criminals pardoning criminals.
I don't care much about his business but I don't think the right to conspire to commit murder is some kind of Libertarian reform demand.
I typed it in big letters so your ignorant ass could underatand
The guy was 24 years old.
I hope you dig deeper and offer a reconsidered stance.....soon.
But he didn't. He wants to use him in some way, even if only for the image it portrays to his sycophants.
His collaborators .
Resist. Resist everything.
It's not always "Democrats are always right and Republicans are always wrong"
This will be a deserved unfollow. You have lost the plot.
Grow backbone and stop trying to be the "better people"
He only does things that will benefit him personally.. what was in this for him?
American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road https://a.co/d/hztoGe4
Just for starters
And outside of the time he has already served he is now free of all legal consequences for those actions.
Bad move.
I don’t think so.
* A judge who found evidence was "clear and unambiguous" that Ulbricht hired hitmen to kill witnesses.
* Parents of people who died from OD's - and who were able to hide their problems by buying anonymously on Silk Road.
https://freeross.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Sentencing_2015-May-29.pdf
But a pardon, after 11 years (the law said 20 minimum)? And maybe billions in Bitcoin returned?
Remember, Trump only promised to commute the life sentence — but then he granted a full pardon.
I'm starting to believe you are an example of an intelligent moron. You have always been wishy-washy in my opinion. This two sides shit is why America is so screwed up.
Trump Pardons ‘Silk Road’ Founder Ross Ulbricht—Here’s What To Know https://search.app/zsZMsPHj1HoBxMVGA
Get your heads out of your asses.
There is no talking or reasoning with Nazis.
50+ years ago, a holocaust survivor explained how evil and cruel the Nazis were. To this day, I remember that awful tattoo on his arm.
WAKE TO FUCK UP AMERICA.
They are Nazis.
America is a Fascist Oligarchy.
Accept it.
Three fronts:
1. Political and legal
2. Public protest and outcry
3. Antifa, doing the wet work just like the French resistance in ww2.
No rules!
This is why you have a 2nd Amendment.
Use the damb thing.
Fixed.
Just because you think Ulbricht didn't deserve such a harsh sentence, doesn't mean he deserved a full pardon either.
There's a selfish reason he did that... and I'm pretty sure we're not going to find out anytime soon.
By your logic Hitler & Mussolini did something you would agree with 😕
The dude hired hitmen, perhaps resentencing, not pardoning?!
PROVE WHAT YOU CLAIM or be quiet.
Nobody is jumping on the outrage wagon after what y'all managed to accomplish with this bullshit last year.
PROVE HE IS A ZIONIST or go away
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/silk-road-drug-vendor-who-claimed-commit-murders-hire-silk-road-founder-ross-ulbricht
I too agree with Trump on a few cases. Why is the US always paying more than other countries? NATO, WHO.
Can you please explain why you agree with this pardon? I am doubting your integrity without this explanation.
Why are you praising this?
This is not like 2016; he's out for blood.
Extremely disappointed in David!
“We don’t allow the sale of anything that’s main purpose is to harm innocent people, or that it was necessary to harm innocent people to bring it to market.”
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/an-interview-with-a-digital-drug-lord-the-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts-qa/
Laughable comment at best.
https://www.engadget.com/cybersecurity/donald-trump-pardons-silk-road-creator-ross-ulbricht-010206263.html
Republicans constantly bitch about criminals and rapists coming across our border illegally.
And yet Trump shits on the whole idea of Law & Order by pardoning 1600+ Jan 6 Insurrectionists and this guy.
Might as well just let the Mexican Cartels run wild in America…
Regardless of your opinion, I think right-wing media has the adoration part covered..
Don’t know if his sentence fit the crime but he deserved being jailed for it.