UPDATE: Lawyer for govt, Drew Ensign, cited 'grave national security issue' in declining to discuss current state of the deportations in a public hearing, so judge took it private. But looks like one El Salvador-bound flight took off during a break in the hearing www.flightaware.com/live/flight/... - ThreadSky

joshgerstein.bsky.social • 12 hours ago

UPDATE: Lawyer for govt, Drew Ensign, cited 'grave national security issue' in declining to discuss current state of the deportations in a public hearing, so judge took it private. But looks like one El Salvador-bound flight took off during a break in the hearing https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/GXA6145/history/20250315/1930Z/KHRL/MHPR

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goshic.bsky.social•12 hours ago

This secrecy is unwarranted, national security concerns are often used to evade transparency and accountability, the public has a right to know about government actions.

nreynolds.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Someone has to go to prison for this shit or will continue to keep happening.

robert-e-630.bsky.social•11 hours ago

or lawyers have to be disbarred

thryse.com•12 hours ago

Yeah that’s not happening. Judges have no actual power.

thryse.com•12 hours ago

In fact, judges routinely contrive a lack of consequences for people they can’t hold accountable, to preserve the illusion of the rule of law and their nominal authority.

gunluigi.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Judges can unilaterally order someone be remanded to custody for contempt of court. If this is what it looks like, and the lawyers in the case were aware of it, then it's absolutely necessary.

If the administration intentionally did this without informing the lawyers... then I have no idea.

thryse.com•11 hours ago

Judges can order it but again, who will do it?

gainesm.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Contempt of court is their power. But good luck getting enforcement on such an order with the US Marshalls reporting to DOJ

mkranz.bsky.social•11 hours ago

The Supreme Court already decided, last year, that, in fact, no one will go to prison for this shit. It will keep happening until much of the leadership of all branches is replaced with folks who care even a little bit about the health of the country and its god forsaken inhabitants

bash.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Only the POTUS has immunity. The rest of the administration and those following its illegal orders do not have immunity.

gehaines.bsky.social•11 hours ago

But he can pardon them and has control over federal law enforcement, so this means nothing

bash.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Supreme Court didn’t affect pardon power though.

gehaines.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Ok, you’re kind of missing the point here. He can tell people to do illegal things, and then pardon them so they can’t be held accountable either.

atrapter.bsky.social•11 hours ago

he can pardon all of them

scassian.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Judges are letting the regime run riot. Disaster awaits unless the judicial branch starts getting serious.

elizabethpgraham.bsky.social•11 hours ago

I suggest that you follow some of the journalists who report from courtrooms. Judges are ruling against the Trump administration frequently.

freedomnow.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Nearly unilaterally ruling against them. I don’t know that I’ve heard more than two cases ruled in their favor, and one of those was almost worded as an invite to plaintiffs to tweak their complaint so the judge *could* hold TrumpCo. accountable.

julietabouli.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Sure doesn’t look like that plane turned around as ordered.

au-ug.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Looks like it's close to landing.

andrewross.net•10 hours ago

I wouldn’t give this Administration the benefit of the doubt under any circumstances…

…but I’ll be charitable to the flight crew and suggest that, for safety reasons, they may insist on landing in order to refuel before returning.

julietabouli.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Very good point, I got so stuck on their bottomless bad faith that safety didn’t even occur to me

andrewross.net•10 hours ago

You’re not wrong.
The bad faith continues unabated.

julietabouli.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Holy fuck.

apocalypseelf.bsky.social•10 hours ago

@dimsie.bsky.social see above

drf5n.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Wikipedia says the A320 is designed for 150 people.

If this administration looks far enough back, they could probably stack 300+ souls like cordwood into each A320 for the trip overseas to the Caribbean.

MAGA did it before.

https://www.britannica.com/summary/Transatlantic-Slave-Trade-Key-Facts

weener.bsky.social•10 hours ago

That’s what I was thinking

squirrelgirl105.bsky.social•10 hours ago

yup.

peanut24.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Before we go “kill all the lawyers” do we know what actually happened? I don’t know what the judge was told privately. And I don’t know who was on which plane or where they are now. Do you? If ICE defied the ct. there should be major sanctions. If lawyer lied him too + disbar. But we need more facts

robert-e-630.bsky.social•10 hours ago

another flight, GXA6122 also took off

ginloula.bsky.social•11 hours ago

These DOJ lawyers are just dubious pawns and should REFUSE to work within the administration further.

marithomas.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Didnt a bunch of them quit?

kp-tx.bsky.social•12 hours ago

So while they’re determining whether the administration can deport these people to Venezuela, someone (DHS?) is flying at least some of the people to Venezuela? So ignoring the judge & deporting? Can judge charge them with contempt of court?

maskfairy.bsky.social•11 hours ago

It’s worse. They’re flying them to El Salvador.

kp-tx.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Why El Salvador?

scoober.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Because El Salvador has a mega prison complex called CECOT (Terrorism Confinement Center), built to house gang members. It’s widely considered a black hole as far as human rights are concerned. Presumably we pay them to take people and they make sure they disappear.

kp-tx.bsky.social•10 hours ago

That’s seriously f’d up.

modoubtingthomas.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Because their leader has made nice with Trump and said they'd take our deportees ... and even hinted at taking some of our worst criminals.

They are in some dire financial straits and are in need of money. Trump can make a helluva deal with desperate people.

elizabethpgraham.bsky.social•11 hours ago

El Salvador offered to take them if the US would pay.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/americas/el-salvador-migrant-deal-marco-rubio-intl-hnk/index.html

maskfairy.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Cruelty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador%E2%80%93Venezuela_relations

hekintx.bsky.social•10 hours ago

it is about to land. wonder what happens now.

jenonymous.bsky.social•11 hours ago

So basically they were lying to the court to stall for time so the ghouls in the administration could illegally deport a few hundred (few thousand?) more individuals before the injunction kicked in?

elizabethpgraham.bsky.social•11 hours ago

A lawyer who lies to a federal judge is a fool. I suspect the lawyer was lied to.

zaggsz.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Plaintiffs had stated people were on the plane during the first part of the hearing, lawyer should've made damn sure that wasn't the case. Apparently he didn't try too hard because he didn't have an answer. Lawyer lied.

robert-e-630.bsky.social•11 hours ago

needs to be disbarred

elizabethpgraham.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Y'all really don't believe in due process of law! You've jumped from assuming that the lawyer had actual knowledge that people were on planes to disbarment!

ladyasterianox.bsky.social•8 hours ago

This isn't a court. There is no due process applicable here.

jack-a-dandy.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Consider it recognition of a trend with the administration. How long we gonna get "Doh, we're just hapless with our wild and crazy boss" be an excuse for mass human rights violations?

jeffthecheff.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Look at the lawyer we are talking about, then delete this post and apologize

rkfatheree.bsky.social•10 hours ago

jeannetteh.bsky.social•7 hours ago

No; we don't believe the party directing that lawyer believes in due process of law.

charliesaduck.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Derr duh

128grazer.bsky.social•10 hours ago

The foolish lawyer is responsible, whether he was lied to or not.

jenonymous.bsky.social•11 hours ago

If you’re still defending these actions (and clients who execute them) in court, you have to know they are lying to you and you’ve effectively decided to be complicit with a lawless administration as it is trampling on human rights.

elizabethpgraham.bsky.social•10 hours ago

We lawyers have a duty to zealously represent our clients. If our clients lie to us and we know it, we must not repeat those lies to a judge.
I think these lawyers are civil servants who also worked for DOJ in prior administrations. They aren't Trump's people. That's who's lying, Trump's appointees.

czoernie.bsky.social•10 hours ago

For their sakes, I hope you're correct.

sonjajacobsen.bsky.social•9 hours ago

It appears the plane headed for El Salvador did land there about 45 minutes ago, but is perhaps still on the tarmac, based on the coordinates shown and the lack of any official "arrival time." This is just my best guess. Perhaps someone with some aviation expertise can check. The flight # is GXA6145

sonjajacobsen.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Now I think they've both landed at Comayagua International Airport in Honduras. And another is on the way. But, as someone mentioned, there may be some on the flights who were not deported based on Trump invoking the Alien Enemies Act. Their deportation would not be affected by today's order.

phoenixwomanmn.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Yup:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-invokes-alien-enemies-act-target-venezuelan-gang-rcna196598

heidiotoo.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Ohh, so govt. Guy stalled and let another plane take off??

Will there ever be sanctions on the fucking lying govt. Lawyers?

rkfatheree.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Didn’t turn around.

murgatroidbonbon.bsky.social•11 hours ago

I thought that was a break so the DOJ lawyers could find out the current status of the 5 in custody, not to take the discussion private.

danp2078r.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Are they really gang members? With this administration, I wouldn't hold my breathe

gardendiva3.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Since the government apparently determines that. I’d say no.

publicaardvark.bsky.social•5 hours ago

It wouldn’t surprise me if these ones are but the next ones aren’t.

deephurting.bsky.social•11 hours ago

This administration are gang members.

ritfuller.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Fascism is what is hiding behind the curtain.

rszasz.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Seems it rerouted to Honduras?

katefromnyc.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Not sure, but two planes took off—one to Honduras and one to El Salvador. If they land, it’s game over for those people.

cleartights.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Looking at the site, it does seem to be rerouted to Honduras. The judge specifically told DOJ that if a plane was in the air, to turn around and come back to the U.S.

seedeeem.bsky.social•10 hours ago

It wasn’t rerouted. That was the intended destination. Neither flight turned around. The first flight landed and the second flight is continuing.

freedomnow.bsky.social•10 hours ago

It wasn’t the intended destination. Likely diverted there for refueling.

seedeeem.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Flightradar24 typically adds a “diverted” designation when a flight deviates from filed route. Doesn’t say that here. And these airports are all near to each other. Refueling? Seems like fuckery to me

freedomnow.bsky.social•10 hours ago

I certainly wouldn’t put it beyond them, we do have a small military base there. They could be planning to Guantanamo Bay them there, hoping they’ll be able to dump them on to El Salvador soon. But, logically, wouldn’t they have to refuel somewhere to return stateside?

rkfatheree.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Looks like the destination changed at some point.

rszasz.bsky.social•10 hours ago

And their filed flight plan lines them up for San Salvador.

MAM UT151 IPRUL LIRPO DUSAT UM206 OKUMU UL207 ENALO UA758 NOVOG NOVOG2

Looks like they refiled
MAM UT151 IPRUL LIRPO DUSAT UM206 DASMO UM208 BZE UB753 ARITA ARITA1B

treio24.bsky.social•10 hours ago

...in violation of the judge's ruling?

seedeeem.bsky.social•10 hours ago

If those globalx flights are in fact deportation flights, yes. A third to XLP just took off from the same Texas airport.

seedeeem.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Correction: XPL is the correct airport code

rszasz.bsky.social•10 hours ago

I mean it sorta looks like they had filed to go to San Salvador, and now it's updated to Tegucigalpa

markabuchanan.bsky.social•11 hours ago

"Grave national security issue?"

kerrygutknecht.bsky.social•10 hours ago

https://bsky.app/profile/kerrygutknecht.bsky.social/post/3lkhbzh6xnc27

dmrpolyps.bsky.social•10 hours ago

It's incredible that you have to keep explaining this shit. Like judicial review and citizenship. It gets old after a while. But you have to keep doing it.

diegoatlaw.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Wait is the flight still on its way?

thecarolanniest.bsky.social•8 hours ago

This is beyond fascism, beyond authoritarianism—this is organized crime. Absolute lawlessness. No lawyer should keep their license who participates in this.

squirrelgirl105.bsky.social•10 hours ago

flight still in the air

mrxianstovall.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Is this issue more grave than the DOGE boys passing around unencrypted data that they ignored privacy and security standards to get a hold of in the first place?

popher.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Yes

mrxianstovall.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Given what the DoJ is considering a natsec issue, this was a poor attempt at irony on my part.

popher.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Oh sorry

winterpancake.bsky.social•9 hours ago

So are they gonna start holding people in contempt? Or just go oops haha

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