New from 404 Media: Employees working at DOGE have been ordered to stop using Slack while government lawyers attempt to transition the agency to one that is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act. Means DOGE will be even more secretive and unaccountable www.404media.co/doge-employe... - ThreadSky

josephcox.bsky.social • 72 days ago

New from 404 Media: Employees working at DOGE have been ordered to stop using Slack while government lawyers attempt to transition the agency to one that is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act. Means DOGE will be even more secretive and unaccountable https://www.404media.co/doge-employees-ordered-to-stop-using-slack-while-agency-transitions-to-a-records-system-not-subject-to-foia/

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imtmm.bsky.social•67 days ago

Stop the steal!

gretagroots.bsky.social•72 days ago

Coup

ibemax.bsky.social•72 days ago

Parts of the Biden Administration were acting under the Presidential Records Act (PRA) prior to this DOGE transition. The EOP, which includes entities like the White House Office, the National Security Council, and the Office of Management and Budget, was already subject to the PRA.

k2kel.bsky.social•72 days ago

DOGE is not a govt agency

rawlawdog.bsky.social•72 days ago

No. Just no.

theglobalvc.bsky.social•72 days ago

But her emails, amiright? 😡

ampersine.bsky.social•72 days ago

So what I’m hearing is Slack has lots of juicy records that need to be subpoenaed

ft-friendly.bsky.social•72 days ago

😕 This person considers his workplace a garbage dump and tries to sweep it up in his own way...

kategodart.bsky.social•72 days ago

do they really need a giant god damned closeup of his face for that graphic, just about made me spit out my food augh

oldbluebabe.bsky.social•72 days ago

What is Slack? I’ll ask what everyone else is too embarrassed to ask

socrateschocolates.bsky.social•72 days ago

In short: Slack is a chat program used in many businesses for internal communications.

oldbluebabe.bsky.social•71 days ago

Thanks / I remembered after my post but confirmed now

deemidnight.bsky.social•72 days ago

https://repgwenmoore.bsky.social

deemidnight.bsky.social•72 days ago

@maddow.msnbc.com
@chrishayes1.bsky.social
@lawrenceodonnell.msnbc.com

PLEASE COVER THIS

@msnbc.com

christian.kuendig.info•72 days ago

They had 10 weeks of transition to prep for this and 2 weeks into their crime spree they realize all their comms have been logged??

dribrats.bsky.social•72 days ago

CIA will continue to have receipts. The criminals will regret taking them on.

trampschool.bsky.social•72 days ago

Please stop calling it an “agency.”

It is not a federal agency established by Congress. The executive order declaring it a 551 agency is not conditionally viable, nor statutorily authorized. Please do legitimize the dubious authority of this outfit.

trampschool.bsky.social•72 days ago

*Do NOT legitimize.

murphy-t.bsky.social•72 days ago

“DOGE” is led by an unelected person and is a task force, but it is not an official agency. Each time it is mentioned, it is normalized. For that reason, put it in quotes or refer to it another way. This should not be tolerated and is not an acceptable way of governing.

kh-instability.bsky.social•72 days ago

How long have the doge boys been computering for Mush?

“And he knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So it was pretty good, pretty good. So thank you to Elon.”

etudious.bsky.social•72 days ago

Yeah… but, in the mean time… fire up those FOIA’s.

jeffinerd.bsky.social•72 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/jeffinerd.bsky.social/post/3lhgwtac57s2l

jpacek.bsky.social•72 days ago

DOGE isn't an agency

3garcons.bsky.social•72 days ago

if this is about efficiency, it should be public.

nodakid.bsky.social•67 days ago

Evil

jenlhogg.bsky.social•72 days ago

How are there DOGE employees if there is not a named DOGE administrator? 5 USC 3161 allows the head of a temp organization to appoint employees.

stlhd1000.bsky.social•67 days ago

📌

alwayscorrect.bsky.social•72 days ago

They must be doing some evil shit if the things we know about aren't even the worst. What are they afraid will happen if we all knew? Maybe it would make it a bridge too far for republican congressmen, which is scary to imagine.

vividcactus.bsky.social•72 days ago

moving platforms to obscure public records is itself ANOTHER CRIME

jeffinerd.bsky.social•72 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/jeffinerd.bsky.social/post/3lhgwtac57s2l

vividcactus.bsky.social•72 days ago

VC bubble is about to burst like a big zit the day after school picture day. VC tech boys are more desperate than ever because they know they’re exposed as lazy charlatans after DeepSeek revealed the man behind the AI curtain. People are catching on it’s snake oil .

ridder.bsky.social•72 days ago

Agency? Is it really?

How about task force or team, or even gang or invasion force?

samhalpert.bsky.social•72 days ago

Omg FOIA absolutely all slack comms from the last 24 hours ASAP

samhalpert.bsky.social•72 days ago

[email protected]

terryezell.bsky.social•72 days ago

I finally found the "DEEP STATE." I'm starting to believe that Bigfoot may actually exist.

thewildheretic.bsky.social•72 days ago

Something something about the deep state

ilovepaul.bsky.social•72 days ago

Whats Slack?

mrshamlan.bsky.social•72 days ago

WTF!

csbv.bsky.social•72 days ago

But her emails…

saltydog66.bsky.social•72 days ago

"It's mourning in America." - President Elon Musk

titusandrogynous.bsky.social•72 days ago

This is some Soviet ass bullshit

trappiste.bsky.social•72 days ago

Doge isn’t an agency

missyandtillycorgi.bsky.social•72 days ago

Can we just refer to it as Elon's Youth or Gestapo because that's what it is.

democritus555.bsky.social•72 days ago

I thought Elon was calling them his harem?

ianford.bsky.social•72 days ago

Xpo?

diffusedwavelength.bsky.social•72 days ago

The swamp?
Evil cabal?

Something magats will understand since this is what they’ve been bitching about for mostly the past decade but certainly for longer

paigetomkinson.bsky.social•72 days ago

Musk Youth works for me.

missyandtillycorgi.bsky.social•72 days ago

Musk rats work as well now that I think about it.

paigetomkinson.bsky.social•72 days ago

That's great!

mybookstand.bsky.social•72 days ago

https://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2025/02/usaid-elon-musk-donald-trump-doge

interdimensional.bsky.social•71 days ago

jillbles.bsky.social•71 days ago

Yeah, uh huh. That means they've already got what they went in for.

hittielove2.bsky.social•72 days ago

beccasmullet.bsky.social•67 days ago

Everything they write is subject to FOIA! It doesn't matter what system is used. If they want to engage in secret communications while ostensibly on Gov't business, that will eventually turn around to bite them.

shell4747.bsky.social•67 days ago

When do these fuckers tuck themselves into the executive branch hard enough to actually be required to follow the regulations & processes laid down for it?

Honestly, not sure this eleventy-dimensional chess reputation for either of These Assholes is ...quite accurate. Not sure it matters, either :c

k9rescue.bsky.social•71 days ago

saxone.bsky.social•71 days ago

DOGE : Dickbag or Gormless Elon ?

MAGA : Make American Garbage Again !

MEGA : Make Elon Gobshite Again !

cjtrunchar.bsky.social•72 days ago

Lock him up

cuspis.bsky.social•72 days ago

Someone better be asking slack for this workspace immediately.

darrowe.bsky.social•72 days ago

Who is paying these DOGE employees?

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•72 days ago

Elon is the richest man in the history of the world. Pay is irrelevant. He can cover the cost of anything if needed.

darrowe.bsky.social•72 days ago

So they are on Elon's payroll, only loyal to Elon.

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•72 days ago

Yeah, they're like all nazis. People looked at their social media. They follow other nazis. They're all pieces of shit who have no idea what they're doing and are just pulling on wires and seeing what happens for the most part.

slolisa.bsky.social•67 days ago

KGB comes to mind.

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•72 days ago

Elon should be dealt with.

acmarcodc.bsky.social•72 days ago

jenlhogg.bsky.social•72 days ago

Not patchy enough tbh…

millyedge.bsky.social•72 days ago

What a fucking dumpster fire the US is right now

A banana republic

Any American states want to become Canada’s next province?

stilghar.bsky.social•72 days ago

themetabaron.bsky.social•72 days ago

Law breaking every moment of every day, the Musk way

girl1veteran.bsky.social•70 days ago

So they can take the private citizens personal information because the citizens don’t have a right to privacy but the Apartheid enthusiast has a right to be private with the information. they threaten to kill people over mask mandates and fake election results but no outrage about this 😒

maggyw.bsky.social•72 days ago

Which” government lawyers?” Geezus Christ

sturgeonupstream.bsky.social•72 days ago

People doing legal things for the government don't move to "secure" platforms

wraithtek.bsky.social•72 days ago

🤔

darwinwoodka.bsky.social•72 days ago

EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING IS ILLEGAL SAY THAT

imittma1.bsky.social•72 days ago

Oy vey!

jillbles.bsky.social•71 days ago

Hey, it's time for another round of our daily chorus of, "But that's illegal!"

Yeah, not in Gilead, it ain't.

markabraham.bsky.social•72 days ago

Sounds like a few trillion dollars will go missing soon, with perhaps traces of it found years later in random bank accounts in Russia, China, Switzerland, and elsewhere? @warren.senate.gov

marietoto.bsky.social•72 days ago

Will share. Thanks

pocono.bsky.social•72 days ago

If you're working in the government you shouldn't be using slack either

mnterrier.bsky.social•72 days ago

could you please stop calling DOGE an agency. only an act of congress can create a government agency . hes a private citizen being granted illegal access

michelfloyd.bsky.social•71 days ago

Let's turn this around - Slack is SaSS. Some employee at Slack has access to all of DOGE's internal slack messages…

grungehamster.bsky.social•72 days ago

Lol. LMAO even.

diffusedwavelength.bsky.social•72 days ago

These people haaaatteee FOIA

Why could that be?

https://bsky.app/profile/jennycohn.bsky.social/post/3ldeq34mgrc2p

saulyoussef.bsky.social•72 days ago

They have infiltrated Social Security and Medicare

DANGER DANGER DANGER

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elon-musk-doge-medicare-medicaid-fraud-e697b162?fbclid=IwY2xjawIQg51leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHRf6X28SZPdOj2sThMlcnKRQ_nqoC-rvUym_0FpeJD3YED49h-3GeZR42A_aem_uaofnoSEqt2WKgdJcr6RyA

rotortorture.bsky.social•72 days ago

Unsure why Americans are just sitting idly by watching this shit show. Too busy working 3 jobs to make ends meet because it’s the greatest country on earth?

markabuchanan.bsky.social•72 days ago

Illegality is the point.

gamedadadvanced.bsky.social•72 days ago

Elon needs to be charged with treason or something.

socrateschocolates.bsky.social•72 days ago

Does anyone have a stock form or know how to file a FOIA request for the DOGE Slack records so that it has a chance of actually being honored?

kerrygutknecht.bsky.social•72 days ago

Former OMB FOIA lawyer here with a nitpick: you say “DOGE’s move to EOP” but DOGE/USDS/OMB and the other FOIA-covered components are all within the EOP. The report is that DOGE is moving from OMB to the White House Office (WHO).

laurenleharper.bsky.social•72 days ago

Absolutely right - it’s a move within EOP from OMB to something else. Sounded to me like there’s a possibility it becomes its own entity- not necessarily a part of the White House Office but still reporting to WHCOS.

kerrygutknecht.bsky.social•72 days ago

Maybe DOGE gets its own EOP component but isn’t it safer to just house it within an existing component that currently enjoys PRA status so that the eventual case on FOIA coverage isn’t facially one of first impression?

kerrygutknecht.bsky.social•72 days ago

On the other hand, if the DC Circuit ultimately “pierces the veil” of one of the PRA components for fraudulently obscured FOIA-covered agency records it’s not hard to imagine the PRA components being ordered to start accepting FOIA requests going forward. So maybe better to let DOGE stand alone?

kerrygutknecht.bsky.social•72 days ago

This is like a speed-run of the time in 2019 that USDS employees were discovered using an unauthorized Slack instance without telling anyone for several months until the OMB General Counsels office told them to shut it down because it was violating records laws and protocols.

alisonhearn.bsky.social•72 days ago

DOGE=KGB? Or is Musk imagining DOGE will be the Swiss Army knife of govt- just replacing all govt processes with code, gleefully dispensing misery as he goes?

pilotnametaken.bsky.social•72 days ago

THAT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL AS WELL!

Why keep secrets unless you are fully planning on and contemplating Breaking The law.

orchidorkidum.bsky.social•72 days ago

This is obv bad but if these tech bro sociopaths think shit wont leak from their new ‘secretive’ system with how much power struggle and backstabbing there is, then they’re even stupider than I thought.

franospa.bsky.social•72 days ago

📌

mrenaud04.bsky.social•72 days ago

Knowledge of all persons working with DOGE will be important and journalists should take note of this. While DOGE may be shielded from the FOIA under the EOP, they are still subject to some disclosure via FACA if a nonfederal member is advising the government.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN12493?ref=404media.co

anthonyclark.bsky.social•63 days ago

"DOGE" isn't shielded from anything. It's an EOP component that creates federal records, not presidential records, and is subject to FOIA requests just like any other Federal Records Act entity.

https://medium.com/@anthony_clark/the-white-house-and-reporters-are-wrong-doge-is-subject-to-foia-d65503b675ce

mrenaud04.bsky.social•63 days ago

Very interesting article. Thanks for sharing and for the work. Do you have any knowledge of anyone doing a FOIA request on DOGE and challenging a refusal yet?

larrydavid25.bsky.social•72 days ago

jesus christ does every story have to have an oversized photo of this ugly piece of shit's face???

mgocoder.bsky.social•72 days ago

Are they even "employees"?? Where are their employment contracts? Background checks? Anything?

christiangriboe.bsky.social•72 days ago

WHERE ARE ALL THE KOOKY RW CONSPIRACIES ABOUT WHAT ELON IS DOING? Do they just trust him because he says Trans Bad?

citizen12345.bsky.social•72 days ago

So Elon was not being sincere when he told his followers that transparency is the way?

aleksnotx.bsky.social•72 days ago

If they’re government employees, they’re subject to disclosures and record retention rules. If they’re not government employees, WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING IN GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS?

pd4twce.bsky.social•71 days ago

Nothing wrong with that you can’t let the criminals know what you’re doing now can you?

zebbs.bsky.social•72 days ago

DOGE is not an agency.

swellandswale.bsky.social•72 days ago

That's not how it works. FOIA applies to federal agencies (or, as in the case of DOGE, outside "agencies" that assume governmental roles). It's not about systems at all. An official "record" could be a scribble on a matchbook.

mrxianstovall.bsky.social•72 days ago

Brought to you by the “but her emails” people

mmorgenschoen.bsky.social•72 days ago

is it only me or is there a growing physical similarity between musk and this 👇

anthonyclark.bsky.social•72 days ago

Clarification: not all EOP components are subject to PRA.

OMB is an EOP component, one of several subject to FRA, not PRA; moving DOGE out of OMB isn't placing it in EOP; it's already there.

Only EOP components that solely advise/assist POTUS are under PRA; DOGE clearly does more; it's under FRA.

mamapigeon2.bsky.social•72 days ago

@raskin.house.gov
@amyklobuchar.com
@doggett.house.gov

miazz.bsky.social•72 days ago

Where are the counterinsurgency hackers? have to be some anonymous good guys

grungehamster.bsky.social•72 days ago

A former programmer turned OnlyFans model may be our greatest hope.

https://bsky.app/profile/sky.skymarchini.net/post/3lhcrqeu6ws2f

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