It is very bad manners to tell the husband of a pregnant woman he should call his wife a "pregnant people." And basic manners do not include advocating for gender reassignment surgery -- That has only served to alienate enough people to lose elections to fascists.
Being rude and loud is their whole personality. They gravitate towards Trump because he is the loudest and the rudest. His success creates a permission structure for all their worst qualities.
Being "woke" has always involved simple courtesy and manners, if you use Miss Manners's definition of manners as "making other people feel comfortable." The old cishet Christian white dudes are just mad that THEY are not the ones you're making comfortable.
Okay, so I have already offended folks with barns using an old expression from my mom in Maine. I'm not dunking on people who live in rural areas or people who are poor; just poeple who are rude.
It appears that manners are irrelevant in politics due to Donald Trump. Perhaps they'll stop laughing if we start being less visibly woke and more blunt about what we want for the American people. We need to get the Democrats a social media platform and then invite the working class to engage.
Particularly ridiculous when the real definition of woke just means recognizing that there is inequity in our society and our systems. Hard to fix a problem if you don't acknowledge it's there.
That’s the modern definition perhaps. Black Americans started the phrase during the height of lynchings to remind our community to keep our eyes open and always be aware of the dangers White people presented to us, no matter where we are. Kinda the way cops say “get home alive”.
Understood. And it's why I have never used the term to describe myself. I figure if it applies, others can say so. If I'm the one saying it, it probably doesn't apply.
I have been corrected on the variety of folks who, indeed, were raised in barns and I have apologized. It's an old expression my mom in Maine used when corrrecting my manners (where we actually have very few barns). I'm glad you turned out okay. :)
My father used ‘raised in a barn’ as an injunction against leaving doors open as a child. This probably leads to another problem. Is a barn without a door called something else?
Dad also had something about Crystal Palace, for if the lights were left on
And Jesus was waaaaay too woke for these barn-raised “new” MAGA Christians, as well. They are far too modern for Jesus. They know better than he ever did.
I think a lot of them if not all were abused by authority figures and then projected their rage onto “libs” and their need for an authority figure onto rump.
But I don’t think you can get away with this denial anymore. I’m seeing this chaos as what happens before transcendence (it’s ugly though)
I could be wrong, but I sense a lot of people are suffering from twitter trauma here, or X-PTDS, I should say. I hope we all agree to build this platform with kindness, or wokeness, or good manners, whatever you want to call it!
I was also just explaining to a friend what “woke” means and why it’s supposedly bad. It’s just like “liberal” to them. They take these labels and try to twist them into something we should be embarrassed by because they’re bullies. We shouldn’t allow them the power to change the narrative.
I have found those mannerless people want the rest of us decent folks to become just as abhorrent as they are. Not happening here, I cut out every single trump voter out of my life and I’m so much happier without their hate, racism and drama.
No. They are lost souls that have no morals. We as people don’t teach morality and help those down the right path in life. We just mind our own business these days.
An early responder noted regional differences. As a Yankee long in the South this is a favorite topic. Folks here think they're more polite because they say sir/ma'am. But manners are contextual. In Maine where I'm from that's almost sarcastic. But saying yes please/no thank you is drilled into us
I was thinking about specifically about yes please/no thank you. Extra pleasantries, no matter the region, is a little over the top except in my case. My grandfathers were World War II veterans who cursed all the time but they demanded the utmost respect whenever I spoke to them. It is how I talk.
IKR? Everything we were taught about maintaining good manners, being respectful towards others, guarding our good character, integrity, ethics, honor, truthfulness, treating people kindly, fairly & compassionately is all passé? These are all anyone remember of us after we are gone from this earth!
I was raised in a barn style house, I’d like to say that some of us do have manners. It’s the high society raised ones that tend to be lacking in that department.
No need to apologize, I’m just trying to figure out a new phrase to encompass those lacking in manners. Maybe “High Falutin” could make a comeback with a twist. How about “Manners-A-Lago”?
Plantations. They WISH they were raised in all Male plantations, where they can lounge and enjoy each other’s maleness while being rude and uneducated cretins. You know, the south
I live in Iowa. I understand how you may feel but yes, most of the people in this state were raised in Barns. I also don't think you are taking into account your own manners. The US is not just one type of culture and respect goes both ways. This isn't a "flyover" state, people live here too.
As a Yankee in the South I appreciate regionalism. I meant basic manners I suspect we share-not yelling at people or pushing them aside, saying please & thank you. I wasn't referring to any specific region & nobody's home is a flyover. I meant no offense w/the expression. Apologies (see, manners).
I am from Salt Lake City, Utah originally. I appreciate the quiet town life I have now. 5 cars at a traffic light is "Heavy". I do miss my outdoors activities. Iowa only has about 3% of its lands as public, Utah is around 50%.
I'm in Florida where too many people are angry. From Maine though and I get back there often. One of the biggest "cities " in the sate with one traffic light
I grew up in Florida and it’s always been full of angry people. I moved to the west coast decades ago. What a difference people are so chill and polite. I lived in the 4 th largest city there area wise. I went back 10 yrs ago it had gotten so big they built a new city hall
I live in rural Minnesota...my mom and my friend's mom and my aunt and my sister etc. all have used this expression. Hell I've even used it and I have a barn!
Absolutely not. People raised in barns speak softly or risk being kicked by a horse. Look to the people raised in mansions with help who hold their tongue at risk of losing their livelihood.
I know the op was just being colloquial in expression.
But 💯 this reply.
Spent my childhood running between a chicken barn, hay barn, goat shed and pens, horse pens, lama pen, cattle sheds and pens, equipment barns/shop, vet shed, bull pens, and the like and my ability to read a room is amazing.
They worship a garbage got and practice
a gutter religion that fosters the absolute
worst behaviors imaginable in human beings.
Any remorseless heroin junkie would make as
less dangerous babysitter.
This started with Rush Limbaugh and the rest of his ilk, telling their listeners that anyone who isn't MAGA is evil and "The Other" and is not worthy of anything.
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Most of the people I know who were raised in barns had very good manners.
Now they’re in a nationwide biggest jerk contest.
Dad also had something about Crystal Palace, for if the lights were left on
But I don’t think you can get away with this denial anymore. I’m seeing this chaos as what happens before transcendence (it’s ugly though)
I'd rather be woke then whatever the fuck it is they are
Just like the ones invading Ukraine and genociding Palestinians rn.
But 💯 this reply.
Spent my childhood running between a chicken barn, hay barn, goat shed and pens, horse pens, lama pen, cattle sheds and pens, equipment barns/shop, vet shed, bull pens, and the like and my ability to read a room is amazing.
a gutter religion that fosters the absolute
worst behaviors imaginable in human beings.
Any remorseless heroin junkie would make as
less dangerous babysitter.
#The4thReichExists