It's a little sad that people still believe the Dems are truly fighting for us. AOC and Bernie? Sure. But the rest don't do much more than lip service to keep us all from rioting
I am so done. I think I may be changing to independent. So over the old dems. You can barely understand them and they are not quick enough in debating.
@aoc.bsky.social I have always said if you want to win as a democrat you need to fight like a republican. Guess not this time. I mean how in the hell is this old-beyond-retirement-age old man getting in touch with democratic youth, many of who are on this platform and for good reason.
All septuagenarian dems need primaried at midterms. Change has to happen, the old guard insider trading Pelosi wing of the party are enemies of democracy the same way Trump and his 1% fascist regime are.
We need truly left wing representatives. We’ve tried the centrists, they have failed us.
They are merely the most advanced
single-celled organism in existence.
There is no 'thought' within them at all.
Nothing resembling basic humanity
in any conventional sense. Like an
amoeba they wish to devour and
destroy and this who they are at
bottom...any xenomorph is more fucking ethical.
This is only one of the myriad of reasons why I'm leaving the Democratic Party. It does not represent working people. Period. If it did, the ACA wouldn't be the steaming pile of shit that it is, and Congress wouldn't be allowed to trade stocks.
As much as I personally like connolly, this just signals that the Democrats are not serious about moving forward. They would rather be stuck in the past with old men. This was a travesty.
Dems will never learn the Old Guard can't get it done.
I don't even agree with AOC half the time but..... if we keep just going with the old boring non combative members we will NEVER be able to stand up to DonVict.
Fantastic, let's have the party that just lost have a 74 year old be the ranking member of House Oversight. I'm sure he'll have new ideas on the direction of be party.
Word. And it applies across the board including two supreme court justices who refused to leave when it would have been likely (a sure thing?) to get a D replacement.
And that’s what no one wants to mention I’ve read a lot of comments on this thread and no one wants to talk about the power and the money, he’s a millionaire who has the backing of another millionaire, they want to maintain the status quo on their side of this no matter what
It is not her turn she has to wait her turn is ridiculous. She would have won if Nancy who loves Shut her mouth up Like she promised. She broke her promise
I agree. I cannot stand Trump but a lot of people like him because he just says what is on his mind. And does not apologize. She is like that. Republicans did not want him. It will never be her time. Probably someone else they want to do that next time either.
You know that cancer treatment is protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act. Were you upset with Jamie Raskin working while he had cancer? Do you know that anybody can get cancer at any age?
Democratic Party including @repnancypelosi.bsky.social need to read the room! She pushed Biden out the door for ageism but won’t let @aoc.bsky.social bring the younger generation to the DNC.
READ THE FUCKING ROOM as to why we lost the 2024 election!!!
THAT is insane!! Throat cancer is NO joke. I wonder if he didn't get the Dx until after the election. Either way--he should resign. Treatment is going to be debilitating. If he continued campaign knowing this--that's horrible. Unfair to his constituents!
Can anyone explain to me why we are talking about this instead of Bernie Sanders explanation of why we lost the election and what we are doing about the billionaires who bought Trump's election? This should be the #1 topic on Bluesky - please repost: https://youtu.be/sP2uyVqSnNs
Bernie is working on how we can replace the ideas of neo-liberals like Elon Musk who are destroying our democracy with a new form of economic policy that will improve the lives of all Americans. Not communism, but a better form of capitalism. Listen to the Ted Talk with Nick Hanauer for details.
The old white, republican beat the much younger woman of color, democrat. Apparently, it's not as simple as young versus old, but that is what's coming through.
He is a New Democrat. The first line is they ar pragmatic and work across to aisle to achieve their goals. Given that democrats ran a presidential campaign calling republicans fascists I say it was a bad idea putting this guy in charge of oversight. He pretty much is a Republican.
He is 74 years old and undergoing cancer treatment. What the Dems have been doing is no longer working. The old guard needs to step aside. Lest you think I am some young firebrand, I am 71.
Are young people stoked about the ranking member of House Oversight?
The motherbleepers couldn’t get their shit together enough to elect Kamala over Тяцмр. They fell for Gaza bullshit in a very loud way. I’m not sure AOC being in ANY position would make a damn bit of difference.
It’s really like they want us to hate them. This is my last straw, I think. Dems cannot win, and are determined to lose. Hopefully real progressives leaves the corpse of this party behind and build something new.
She's the living embodiment of everything wrong with the Democratic Party. In the wake of the recent electoral bloodbath, the base, and party activists really need to insist on her retirement as part of an aggressive overhaul so that it can actually become a functional, formidable opposition party.
I thought Nancy stepped aside? I guess she's still running the money-grubbing Old Guard!
With leaders that keep losing, nationally, and thru the press, how will the party survive?
I’m planning to tell DNC I’m done with their party. I joined DSA. They won’t cave on their values and appropriately hate fascist billionaires, unlike the Corporate Dem gerontocracy.
We've been sending our sons and daughters to sacrifice..., and face unspeakable atrocities for two hundred and forty eight years while we roll out red carpet for the very same malfeasance we based the value of their lives on... We have no moral ground... here. #YeahThat
Every time I see someone praise Pelosi, my blood boils. I've watched this woman screw up for at least 20 years while becoming a millionaire, it's hard to imagine it's not intentional.
Come on, now. Pelosi has done a world of good. Don’t turn on the good work on the left. She’s the one who got Obamacare over the line. She’s a pro LGBTQ ally, abolishing “don’t ask don’t tell”, supporting same-sex marriage. She was a master at foreign policy. Respect her contributions.
She has done a world of good, but now it's time for her to sit back. There is a thirst right now for younger, dynamic, progressive leaders, and Nancy responded by pushing an old man with cancer across the finish line. We need to move on, to embrace our qualified younger leaders.
She should have retired as a hero. Now, she is just one more nail in the coffin of the youth. You dont want progress anymore fine. It's scary fine, but get out of the way otherwise your just as bad as the ones who fight against our rights.
You are right - which is why she deserves all the vitriol she’s getting. Nancy cares more about Nancy keeping power than she cares about America going in the right direction.
Those contributions will be moot if trumplethinskin gets in office. She sure isn't fighting that hard to keep that hard work relavant and in play😒 none of the are except a TOO FEW
She has a long history of being very powerful in politics. Age is not a good argument for old or young. Both have SO much to offer. Standing back to back isn’t productive. It’s the coming together that will work. It’s not one side’s fault or the other. It’s both.
We all want the same thing.
Two things can be true, e.g., regarding Pelosi, et al, “The elderly are not too old to govern. But they may, in this case, be too attached to a failed way of doing things.”
Pelosi deserves exalted status, but she's 84 and frail, it's time for her to bow out gracefully and let the next generation carry the fight. She pushed Biden out because of his age, hell she's 2 yrs older than Joe!
I’m 67 and retired at 63. No way I’d want to work that long. They should be mentoring younger generation to run in their place. In the corporate world they start pushing you out or laying you off in your 50’s.
I think it is hubris. Old dems assume they have the age, wisdom, and experience that AOC lacks. So of course they deserve it until the whippersnappers earn their place. Unfortunately this is a new game and we are playing by new rules. They need to think outside of the box.
And they won’t stop until it costs them funding. I stopped donating to the Democratic organizations. I will only donate to individuals like AOC & Jasmin Crockett. I will increase my donation to AOC because of this stupidity. I am sick of Pelosi & her geriatric gang holding the party hostage.
Never held elected office before and then straight to being a US Senator for one of the most populous states in the country. A state she never lived in either.
Rosyln Carter championed the Mental Health Services act of 1980 when First Ladies were only supposed to be supportive partners to their husbands .. and no one ever said that Hilary wasn’t involved in Bill’s decisions ( the exact opposite)
Becoming a Senator without experience isn’t the same as becoming the President without any- let’s not forget Obama was a Senator prior to becoming President.. Hilary also had the benefit of being the spouse of a former President and am sure she was well aware of what he faced..
Let’s look at how well letting incompetent new elected officials run everything in Maga land ..and got nothing but Chaos and bad decisions… As one who worked in corporate America saw plenty of brilliant young people fail because they thought they had solutions to problems they had no experience in..
Or maybe it’s because there is some truth to that - not directed specifically at AOC but one only has to look at the new Maga elected officials to see that have no clue how to do their jobs?? Would you prefer them to be mentored by lobbyists instead which is what would happen
Feel free to look it up yourself- she is married to a wealthy and successful businessman… Just like McConnell whose wealth is his wife’s..🤷♀️ Or Kamala’s whose wealth is due to her husband…🤷♀️
I’m 74 in great health and I do not think I have the energy and understanding of what is needed to move our country forward however I know someone like AOC does have bothering energy and understanding.
In his defense, some old fucks can’t stand not having purpose. I watch Dog Whisperer all day just in case I decide I want to try the shush on the beast next door who looks like he wants a chunk of me. That’s power.
Always... the Democrat party needs to do a serious remake. Stop touting norms and learn how to fight. Stop showing up only when it's time to vote. And stop paying homage to norms that do not work for the average American. Get the old, pelosi, out bring in new Progressive dawned. Seniority be damned.
There needs to be term limits because regardless of his character and service, it is irresponsible for someone at this age to still be a government official.
I'm not implying, I do think he's too old to serve. The guy's older than my grandma, and she's retired, plus he's going through chemotherapy. Sometimes, you've gotta put hubris aside and know when to step down.
Yeah, let's continue to be a party of old people. This really invigorates young people it really does. It's amazing the energy that comes off of nominating yet another fucking really old mother fucker when we had a really young and dynamic person who would bring in a lot more attention to the job.
They have learned. They just don’t care. The old DEM party is there for their own interests which is money. So they too must keep the billionaires happy.
The lesson I learned is, the democrats' message is too complicated for most Americans. It's based on reason, facts, science and equality. Half of Americans read below the 6th grade level and we expect them to know what a tariff is...I'm afraid that the dems message isn't simple enough for America
Learning and not caring are two wildly different things. The old fucks would throw the party to the wolves before letting go of a single scrap of power.
Exactly, it’s both. It what makes me nervous about the DNC race too. It’s messaging but it has to go beyond that to more fundamental changes in order to be able to contest for the Senate in the years to come.
Independent media needs to give lots of screen time to progressive candidates seeking to boot status quo Dems. Legacy media would never and they're a dying animal anyway. We need this to be our focus, down ballot and states too.
Local and state for sure, esp. now. It’s both, right. It’s media and it’s also finding genuine, authentic ppl to run against these status quo individuals. And that’s where you run up against the $$$ & the power of the corporate donors.
Yep, the party will not fund progressive candidates. And deep pocket donors have said they'll fund the right if the party goes left. It will all have to come from us. I've donated to campaigns of candidates in entirely different states and I think that's got to be the norm if we want change.
Absolutely. It's become quite evident Dem leadership just wants to grift and maintain their positions as long as possible, just like the other party. For the record, they abandoned us first.
Not much to learn in a loss in the closest election in the last 100 years during a time of heavy propaganda and disinformation that’s turned many toward radical illiberalism. Just have to do better at educating the population.
I never said they were. I already had a guy mansplain what ´anecdote´ meant (no kidding). I think ppl need to just read people´s comments and stop adding their own assumptions to it.
Democrats are just awful in effective organization. Dems lost to possibly the worst person to be president. They have good policies, but they can not adapt to a change in culture. It feels like we are witnessing societal collapse bc some are stuck in the old ways.
Well, it's time the thirty-year-olds and under-crowd break from the Democratic party and create a progressive party. I know there's libertarian but F them too. We need someone with balls, not dinosaurs roaming.
The Democratic Party is already weak, and it looks like they have learned nothing from the latest election loss. They have been shitting on progressives for years and people have had it with them.
Nancy F Pelosi has something to do with this. She made it known she would persuade the vote. The Democrats never listen to the voters. Vote these MFS out during midterms.
Nancy still has a lot of power and distaste for #AOC who is more than capable of taking the reins. She is fierce, smart, and a tireless fighter. What part of that is not what we actually need?
We NEED to get rid of these old fucks. They have no idea how modern society works, they just want to cling on to what power they can, while republicans dismantle our fucking democracy. Nancy Pelosi is a menace to any real change at this point. #RetireNancy
So glad the prehistoric Pelosi who is out of power and on her way out can still direct people from behind Jeffries to elect another geriatric fuck who is sick to the top spot for Oversight… definitely need an old man who will not have the energy or a physical voice to speak instead of AOC.
WTF! Im starting to hate my party. I'm a moderate Democrat but I see the writing on the wall. We need younger Democrats with new ideas. AOC is one of them. Like really they voted for a 74 year old with cancer. Sorry, but it's true.
The Democrats' elected baby boomers are going to ruin the party, which is why I'm going Independent in the new year. These old, clueless farts are every bit as good at sticking their heads in the sand as their GOP counterparts.
My husband just changed his registration to Independent, I am on the fence about it. This kind of stuff is what makes me want to leave the party. Where was Hakeem Jeffries? Why was Nancy the one out there? Tired of old white men running this party.
Wow. I told my family the exact same thing, that in 2025 I am an independent. It's like they just don't get it. Dems have all this young, strong talent and they'd rather go old. It's not good.
You can't vote in the Democratic primary for president in some states so make sure you're registered Dem to vote in those. I know many people who wanted to vote Bernie but we're independents and couldn't vote in the primaries. We can't really make a 3rd party until we have more electoral power.
It would help if more independents actually thought like Bernie however, since too many so-called independents think its acceptable to throw minorities under the bus.
He might have. We will never know. I know a lot of Latino men voted trump, said they refused to vote for a woman, and said they woulda voted for Biden. And then the Palestinians cost us Michigan. Pelosi needs to retire. The old guard needs replacing (and I’m old)
When she forced herself onto the Rolling Stone cover shoot of The Squad, I knew. Pelosi said, but I’m progressive, too, then began her mission to backstab and mock them in any way she could. #WeSeeYouNancy
Way to go, House Democrats and Speaker Emerita Pelosi on voting AOC down. 🙄 One of our most fiery, skilled, social media savvy young leaders. No lessons learned from the last election. Elevating the old guard, while the base clamors for fresh, progressive leadership & young people leave the party.
MSM won’t do anything; they’re entitled, lazy, Pelosi supporters. The Progressive wing is going to have to take a page out of the Dump supporter manual and get LOUD & pushy. I’m over the Dems and their feckless laziness.
Yeah...I would love something completely different...new. The other two parties and politics in general are so dependent on money...it will be tough for someone on the outside to break through
They haven’t f🤬🤬king learned their lesson? What will it take for them to see it’s time to step aside. The world has changed and it’s no longer business as usual.
It's because for all the posturing Rich White Dems know they won't be affected by Far-Right Fascism. Democrats do not care because the ones in charge are (Save for a few outliers) mostly rich white people.
There's a reason why I don't want to live in this country anymore.
Understood. I am one that no longer lives in the USA as I retired abroad a few years ago, but I refuse to believe there are those that don’t want to fight what’s coming. I do believe we have a younger generation that can do it and want to clean up the 💩 these rich white Dems and Reps have left them.
Lol
Of course they've learnt.
The lesson they've learnt is that the Billionaire Oligarchs win in an undemocratic FPTP electoral system & politicians sponsored by Billionaire Oligarchs win monetarily if they win or lose at the ballot box, billionaire oligarchs reward their media & political minions.
Yes, I know but I was referring to committee positions. I did hear he used his money to run another candidate to dilute Katie Porters votes. I stand corrected he took a position from someone on the judicial committee.
Buoyed by a sizable war chest, Democrat Adam Schiff spent heavily to propel himself and his desired opponent — former baseball star Steve Garvey, a Republican — into the November election for California’s U.S. Senate seat.
Old white Democrats: Get the hell out of the way. Your day is done. Let the young take over. All you are doing now is proving your fecklessness. We need young progressive energy, not what you’re offering which is appeasement!
Who in the flamin' eff is Gerry Connolly?
What they wanted was firebrands not dumb number makers as leaders in the present time as they will be swamped by the opposition as they endeavour to gut the governance of your Society.
While I think I would have rather had AOC, Gerry used to be my Congresscritter and he’s actually pretty good for oversight: very finely tuned BS detector and not shy about it at all. He will be good, too.
Yes! Also he is old blood they need new blood that is why they get slaughtered easily. The new breed think slightly different to the old breed as they are more acquainted with to-day. While the old breed drags yesterday with them whilst the new breed aren't saddled with yesterday.
That's some b.s. the problem we have is recycling the oldest most moderate candidates. It's whatever, but I wish Pelosi didn't keep knee capping her own party to protect her own purse.
From that moment on, I switched from Democrat to independent because I’m fed up with the Democrats being so fragile and clueless about learning from their mistakes.
The Squad is the reason we lost voters. The country went more right in every state. Going far left with leadership would be insane. Should have probably been a younger Democrat though
It matters what voters think. Two of the Squad lost their primaries and a third one almost did. George Gascon was voted out in a liberal state. Read the room
You have to ask WHY before you say the county isn't left. Left economic policies are popular and it's why the right needs wedge issues and "identity politics." It's the messaging. Only high info voters vote on policy and the general public are not high info voters. Run populist messaging, get votes.
I think the country is center left overall, but Dems got blamed for inflation by low info voters. I don’t think anything Kamala said or did could change that
Look at Bernie voters who also voted trump. It was clearly not the policy they were supporting. It's because they used the exact same messaging "I'm angry! I want change! Here's who to blame!" It is that simple. General voters will be anything a good messenger tells them to be.
We need a party that prioritizes the well-being of its people and country above its beliefs and interests. Regardless of how distressing or unsettling the truth may be, they must speak out.
Which people are you talking about? People online? That’s a very small portion of the population. AOC isn’t all that popular with the majority of the population. She’s only ever won elections in a deep blue district. I doubt she could win a swing district.
Okay what is his experience in changing the system? Where is his fight while battling cancer? That was my question. —Yes people online, such a small population!
Their whole ethos, their whole methodology, just led to a staggering loss to a known traitor/rapist/criminal degenerate. This is immediately and forever disqualifying for any involved. ESPECIALLY Pelosi. There are many who will never vote for a Democrat again until the gerontocracy is gone.
Trump’s win had nothing to do with anything the Democratic Party did. Incumbents have been voted out across the globe that were in power when post pandemic inflation hit because voters blamed them for increased prices. That’s all there was to it.
More than this - the old guard in general need to get rid of themselves. Their pointless and egotistical deathgrips on power has destroyed the party’s ability to expand the base and counter republican moves. Holdons like RBG and Biden do nothing but put us all in danger.
I feel similar and normally defend everything dems do. Im 34. I vote for Marie Gluesenkamp Perez in my district who is a blue dog. I voted for Harris. More woc in the top of the party please
We need to vote all the old folk out, we need to vote people in who actually give a damn about the United States of America and the human beings that live in it.
GOD DAMN pelosiCUNT. She is why we will NEVER see Progress.
Do not expect me to ever praise dncorporatewhores and nancy and her flunkie, jeffries are CORPORATEWHORES!
The losers voted to lose some more and to continue snatching defeat from the jaws of victory while Washington burns as the sound of fiddle playing wafts through the air.
He is in his 70s. She is in her 30s. She is a rising star, great communicator, fighter, and popular so of course they pass her over. Dammit Democrats. When will the party learn? How far do we have to fall?
This is ridiculous! It's time for the next generation of Democrats to take the lead. We need fighters who aren't tethered to norms and protocols that no longer apply!
I'm thinking at this point, if the people who are actually trying to save this country don't do something to shake loose of the old bureaucracy, we've lost. Not just this election, but our country.
They're not hoping for a different outcome. They refuse to give progressives power. They know it's what we wants and they're telling us no. The only way is to run progressives against these limp dicked Dems and force them out. This should be our 2026 focus.
What is it the Dem leaders aren't getting? AOC would have made a great ranking member of this committee!!
Was Gerry Connolly voted in out of pity for his current health issues or because he's not considered a 'progressive' as if that's a bad thing? Just curious.
Thanks for pointing out the struggles that old white men have had to deal with by being labelled as old white men. I just hope they can break through the wall of prejudice that has been holding them back all this time.
They might want to try to understand the universal support for Luigi is an opportunity to take the mask off culture war hiding class consciousness. Wealth inequity is returning to the levels of the Marie Antoinette era. There's no cake down here.
Of note: Luigi came from a well off family. When the wealthy and privileged are angry enough to start lashing out at each other and the result is a majority of the population cheering it on, what better sign is needed that we're on the brink of potential revolution?
We actually have more in common with millionaires than billionaires. And quite a few billionaires have said that, yes, the tax system is broken. Robert Reich, AOC and Bernie have been talking truth about this forever, but #Luigi caught them off guard.
Exactly they single-handedly gave control of the entire federal and state government to Republicans always p footing around issues instead of standing their ground .
The progressive wing of Democratic party must understand that their adversary is not Trump. It is Nancy (establishment). As long as she controls the party, there is no way that any "Bernie" can ever be promoted.
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We need truly left wing representatives. We’ve tried the centrists, they have failed us.
single-celled organism in existence.
There is no 'thought' within them at all.
Nothing resembling basic humanity
in any conventional sense. Like an
amoeba they wish to devour and
destroy and this who they are at
bottom...any xenomorph is more fucking ethical.
I don't even agree with AOC half the time but..... if we keep just going with the old boring non combative members we will NEVER be able to stand up to DonVict.
For fuck's sake, these fossils just CANNOT let go of power.
READ THE FUCKING ROOM as to why we lost the 2024 election!!!
Otherwise the democratic party is lost to anyone wanting or needing progressive policies now.
They will support fascism abroad just like how the US establishment supported Hitler.
Except now all parties support the same ideology.
The motherbleepers couldn’t get their shit together enough to elect Kamala over Тяцмр. They fell for Gaza bullshit in a very loud way. I’m not sure AOC being in ANY position would make a damn bit of difference.
With leaders that keep losing, nationally, and thru the press, how will the party survive?
That kind of weak bs is why democracy is dying
Have a good evening.
#byefelicia
We all want the same thing.
So-and-so has seniority
Wait your turn
I remember Obama got a TON of that when he challenged Hillary in 08
Never held elected office before and then straight to being a US Senator for one of the most populous states in the country. A state she never lived in either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Pelosi
I think the people would much rather see AOC, NOT another old white man…come on dems. This gets this right!!
I've lost count of how many times I've said these words, and.....
(repeat.) 🥺
This is a big loss.
https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-post-election-survey-gender-and-age-analysis-of-2024-election-results/
Why isn't he on a golf course or a beach somewhere?
There must have been.
Democrats.
More corruption.
https://bsky.app/profile/adiw1202.bsky.social/post/3ldjg7sb6g22u
Don’t have to be young to work for people other than yourself.
Don’t have to be old to be a selfish, cynical asshole.
Her mistake was not convincing him to not run for reelection in the first place.
We need you, and we need you ALL to band together and start helping us force the hand of the Pelosi wing OUT.
You, Kyle, MT, and other…get on this and make this a DAILY hand wringing.
We need your help.
The old men need to move over
There's a reason why I don't want to live in this country anymore.
Of course they've learnt.
The lesson they've learnt is that the Billionaire Oligarchs win in an undemocratic FPTP electoral system & politicians sponsored by Billionaire Oligarchs win monetarily if they win or lose at the ballot box, billionaire oligarchs reward their media & political minions.
There was an actual election in California with a primary..
And he didn’t “take” a position on the Judiciary..as the Senator from CA he filled the empty seat left by Diane Feinstein’s death..
But here we are again.
What they wanted was firebrands not dumb number makers as leaders in the present time as they will be swamped by the opposition as they endeavour to gut the governance of your Society.
It’s adorable that you think there’s even remotely a “far left” in the US. 😆🤣😂🤦🏻♂️
Do not expect me to ever praise dncorporatewhores and nancy and her flunkie, jeffries are CORPORATEWHORES!
https://readsludge.com/2024/11/26/a-fight-for-the-soul-of-the-dnc/
But she doesn't have the courage to
I hope the orbs save us. I hope the orbs then reveal they are inter dimensional women.
Was Gerry Connolly voted in out of pity for his current health issues or because he's not considered a 'progressive' as if that's a bad thing? Just curious.
https://youtu.be/q2gO4DKVpa8?si=sNA7Xb44RrHGm5Ml
https://youtu.be/wOI8RuhW7q0?si=xM6LrDh3bXniK8WR
Given who they were opposing (Trump & his billionaire, proto-oligarchy), there SHOULD have been so many easy points they could've scored on.
Points ANY social democratic/liberal/left party in Europe would've scored on.
America is back in the business of profit and dumping injured workers in the ditch.
The progressive wing of Democratic party must understand that their adversary is not Trump. It is Nancy (establishment). As long as she controls the party, there is no way that any "Bernie" can ever be promoted.
Look at the squad
Look at Bernie
...
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we will never learn