There is no "precedence" to convict him. I say THEN MAKE A PRECEDENCE FOR IT. like my god. when a parent tells a child NO then gives in a few moments later , that child learns they can get their way even after being told no, this is how we coddle the rich fucktards of this country.
FOTUS said if he didn’t win he was going to jail. He knew. His people knew.
We are broken as a nation.
Politics over justice.
Politics over people.
That’s what we have now.
And clearly we don't care. We don't care if he is a rapist We don't care if he is a fraud a cheat a liar a grifter We don't care that's what we wanted apparently.
Need a non-right-wing prez that doesn't refuse to expand SCOTUS when they have the chance, & who fires the AG who drags their feet for years before jumpstarting the prosecution of a traitor running for office.
#Biden lived in his bipartisan bubble until the very end. Now we'll pay for it.
Because everyone is scared by Trump's SS hordes, which are not only those who attacked the Capitol. The Attorney General was a coward and did great harm to the USA and humanity.
And we'll never find out b/c Trump and his conservative helpful jurists blocked and delayed the trial to even start.
So to the MAGA & Trump claiming he's exonerated, not by a long shot he isn't.
The court, a couple of billionaires, and a Congress full of MAGHATS and self serving liars full of sanctimonious duplicity. And Dems too concerned over the opinions of lowlifes. If only they had Jasmine Crockett’s ability to speak truth to power with a bite and confidence.
Ahhh Jasmine Crockett. A wonderful ray of common sense and logic with a fierce delivery! I would never be able to speak to the people she does without screaming at them that they're idiots.
Yes! It is seriously flawed in that your founding fathers never added into the constitution that no one is above the law including the sitting president. That when they break the law they face the processing of the law like every other individual person of the U S of A. The same 4 the privilegeclass
The American people are flawed. No system will protect a society if the members of that society refuse to enforce it. Maybe it's failing education, or the never-cured legacy of the Civil War, or something else; but the American people voted for a rapist and felon. You can't draft laws to stop that.
One of our underlying issues is that we don’t have textbooks that teach us the real history of america. Sure we know the general events that defines our country. But we have people called Originalist Constitutionalists, they interpret the constitution based on (original intent)
OCs don’t understand that there is no such thing as original intent. All of the authors of the constitution came from various backgrounds, they ratified the constitution quite a bit spanning hundreds of people. The constitution we have today is not the first draft, not even the second.
most importantly there is no mention of god or jesus christ despite many Christian Nationalists and Original Constitutionalists arguing that the nation was formed as a christian nation. Which quite literally isn’t true. Anything they say is likely not true. But we should always verify
If our system is flawed in any way, its because we have no limits on the first amendment. Its a double-edged sword because bad-actors like Russia, China, or even Musk, use this against us and push their disinformation and the government cant do anything about it due to the First Amendment
Just watch. The people who advocate the loudest for freedom of speech (which is NOT the first Amendment, BTW) are the ones that intend to use it to harm you.
Some, for sure. For too many others, including quite a few I know of where I work, they know full well who he is, and they like it. The misogyny, the incitement of violence, the relentless contempt, and his complete disregard for anyone who isn't himself. That's the sort of person they want to be.
Trump Incited an Insurrection. That is Treason. The Rosenberg’s were hung for less. The Constitution clearly states that he is ineligible to hold ANY office. And the Justices that allowed him to avoid accountability should be disbarred and tried for Treason.
I've a question, if Trump doesn't care about the constitution why not just go arrest him and put him on trial? if he doesn't need it, why should anyone else. Once he's gone, start over!
Imagine one incited an insurrection, attempts a coup by overthrowing a valid election, steals, refuses and obstructs the recovery of highly classified docs, commits other federal crimes & ONLY because he runs for office and eventually gets elected he goes act free! Based on an obscure policy not law
He should have been arrested in January 2021 and tried within that year. He SHOULD HAVE NEVER been allowed to run for office again! He is an insurrectionist, felonious, sexual predator who is an embarrassment to the United States.
Merrick Garland failed and the DOJ was defeated by Trump thanks to his delays with lawyers and help of a corrupt MAGA SCOTUS and 77 million morons who sold our democracy for price of eggs and gas which will not lower. Jack Smith got screwed. The constitution and rule of law was used as toilet poo
Unfortunately Jack Smith stayed at a Holiday Inn Express for 4 years. South Korea's democracy and Judiciary accomplished in TWO WEEKS what the American Democracy couldn't in four years. Oh, and South Korea impeached and arrested TWO corrupt Presidents in TWO WEEKS.
Very likely they were not foiled at every turn by corrupt foolish judges, a magat congress so many vital authorities who had souls sold to drumph. Jack Smith would have had a fantastic outcome but for all the impediments placed in his path.
I'm done with civility and politeness. The traitors get RBF and profanity, like they deserve.
I'm too old for bs, traitors, racists, mysogynists, and rapist lovers, so I just throw F bombs now.
I hate that I agree with you somewhat. Being informed and a good person just doesn't cut it anymore. People are only listening to the noise MAGA wants them to hear. Kamala would have handled that much differently as President elect. We'd have insurance reform. She'd be talking price gouging.
Correct. Unfortunately we have a corrupt ruling party and McConnel refused to do his duty and charge Trump on those charges of treason when he obviously tried to overthrow the election after losing and at the same time pushed for an insurrection that killed people
Sorry, Linda. This was not a dismissal but a a sentencing following a jury's guilty verdicts. Double Jeopardy applies to convictions as well as acquittals for as long as the Constitution stands.
You only get one bite at the apple. ...er, orange. 🍊
Ultimately, the voters are responsible. Trump's criming was known before the election.
Every vote cast for him, cast for Trump Adjacent 3rd party or not cast was a vote of "This is fine."
The system did not help - slow, tardy, very reactive investigations etc., double standards for prosecuting the footsoldiers of J6 and their leaders...
But still, the key points are the elections and their consequences (incl. locking in SCOTUS).
Voters can, I don't know, not vote in the guys openly bought and paid for by the oligarchs who has the peak oligarch doing jumping monkey on his rallies.
Voters can also voice their displeasure. But so far... No protests. What is the message to the politicians (and the oligarchs)? "We do not mind."
Change tactics Democrats! Take on the MAGA politicians!!! Fuck this honorable tradition bullshit.
It obviously hasn’t worked!!!! Make a spectacle and don’t legitimize any of this
And we are royally screwed. Dammit Garland, ya spineless coward. This should have been handled. What's your retirement plans? You gonna go hide under a rock and wait for it all to end? You are less than a nobody now.😠
That bites. Thanks all of you who abstained from voting for helping to put an illegitimate insurrectionist in the highest office. I am not in a generous, kindly mood right now.
Unfortunately, that and 2 bucks will get you a cup of coffee. It would have been nice to see this report when it would have proved useful-- BEFORE the election!
Is the system working as designed? No, it isn't. The system is ran by people. If enough people refuse to do their job, it doesn't work. They promised everything was easy; that under their leadership they would steal from others and give to the faithful, and people bought it. (The tariff lie.)
The American Empire, built on the blood-soaked land, stolen from our Mother's Indigenous children, built by our Mother's African children, stolen from their lands - was DELIBERATELY DESIGNED to favor white, cishet, SLAVEHOLDERS and their descendants. White "innocence" is beyond disgusting.
I don't care if he was elected he did the Crime before he was Elected! He should be in Jail not the White House. This is where Constitution 14 should Bar him from Office??? But apparently they won't follow our Constitution! I am Angry trying to make the best of a bad situation!
The Constitution has been reduced to the same status as the Bible in this country. They're nothing more than nebulous unquestionable icons of authority held up for criminals to hide behind and justify their criminal and degenerate behaviors. 2002 made this abundantly clear.
When he fucks this up so badly that the word "Republican" is a curse to even the smallest child, we've got to do something to insure this never happens again.
So this is proof tRump tried to delay the certification of Biden as President. tRump committed many crimes in trying to change election results. There is no doubt that tRump also cheated during the 2024 election knowing consequences if he lost. Biden must honor his oath to defend USA from enemies
It’s not flawed it’s totally broken - exactly why do we say we uphold the constitution but then don’t enforce the constitution? Exactly what does the constitution stand for when only amendments are treated like suggestions? Need under 35 person to state they are running for the office of President 🤷🏽♀️
But for 4 years of complacency, dragging heels chasing smaller fish, turning the wheels of justice at snails pace, Trump appointee Judge Aileen Canon turning them even slower, and a Trump compromised Supreme Court grinding them to a halt with an immunity claim.. yeah, maybe!
My hope is that, through these missteps, and years of exposure, we will understand our weaknesses better and build a stronger country because of it. It just may take a while.
FLAWED WITH TRAITORS. THEY NEED TO GO. As it affects our country these TRAITORS should be immediately removed. If they can't imprison the TRAITORS they should REMOVE THE TRAITORS FROM THIS COUNTRY. I believe that the Constitution has a better option for them.
No, our corrupt SCOTUS and Merrick Garland's complicit slow walking prevented justice from occurring. If Jack Smith had been appointed Feb 2021, we wouldn't be where we are today.
His election and imminent return to Presidency only happened 3-1/2 months ago. If he hadn't been re-elected w the assistance of Putin and Musk, he'd be facing trial. You can't blame Jack Smith for this (and I am not saying you are).
It didn't take 4 years to come to the conclusion that he's a criminal who should be tried, was my point. Even many senior Republicans held him responsible in the week or two following Jan 6. Before it got politicized and kompromat was deployed against them for speaking up.
Corrupt sup court and congress who refused to follow the constitution and prevent trump, the convicted criminal from grabbing power with his traitor maggots.
I suspect that the decision to not do anything was made, in part, because they were not prepared to see 77 million idiots on the streets with access to AR15s and no mental health care.
I hope the Trump defenders and insurrectionists read it - there was no doubt Trump knew he was lying about election fraud. There is no doubt that by this time all supporters are aware that the election fraud claims were fabricated.
When did the U.S. Constitution become a document of suggestions on how to run the Country?
I thought it was the Law of the Land.
When did SCOTUS obtain the power to amend the Constitution?
Giving Felon 45 immunity from his crimes against America was decided by only a few SC justices.
I was there, thought a distracted young man on my way to college.
Nixon called together friends to fight impeachment. It was an intervention. Goldwater smiled and told him: "Dick, you've got 2 votes in Senate, and I'm not one of them."
We let a man attempt to overthrow the government. We let we let a corrupt judicial system obstruct justice. We let a disqualified felon run. Then our plutocracy aided by foreign dictators got him elected again. America is a failed nation. #jacksmithreport
He is a straight up, traitor to America, democracy and to our constitution and he should’ve been locked up a long time ago! I know that Trump has ties to the mafia and we know that the mafia has helped the government every now and again! But should’ve asked for help from Veterans like me who care
This sounds as though a MAGA wrote it. We do not have a law like that. Last I heard, we don't put people in jail unless they broke the law. That said, she should be removed from the bench for incompetence
Aiding and abetting a felon and a traitor is against the law. Under the federal aiding and abetting statute, anyone who aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces, or procures the commission of an offense against the United States may be punished as a principal.
But that never applies to a judge who has the discretion to give whatever sentence they want.She could be removed from the bench if she did something against the law, but judges determine sentences. I don't agree with her rulings, but have you ever heard of a judge being tried for a wrong decision
We aren't talking about a sentence she passed down...she didn't pass any sentence down in this instance. She made several rulings in favor of trump (i.e., aiding and abetting) that were legally questionable.
I certainly agree with that. Her colleagues may want to complain but throwing her in jail is not how our legal system works. It may be flawed, but it seems to be better than anywhere else in the world. We don't jail judges when we disagree with their rulings. Only MAGA think that.
You are surprised that this system is as corrupt as you think russia’s is or as some were claiming that Ukraine’s was. “It’s all about the Benjamins baby”, right Elon?
an imagine that the documents case is the caught red-handed, slam dunk case. stealing and passing along security secrets. you know, what the Rosenbergs went to the chair for.
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We are broken as a nation.
Politics over justice.
Politics over people.
That’s what we have now.
#Biden lived in his bipartisan bubble until the very end. Now we'll pay for it.
So to the MAGA & Trump claiming he's exonerated, not by a long shot he isn't.
America is seriously flawed.
Just rereading this pisses me off.
The logic of what's said is skewed.
I'm too old for bs, traitors, racists, mysogynists, and rapist lovers, so I just throw F bombs now.
You only get one bite at the apple. ...er, orange. 🍊
Every vote cast for him, cast for Trump Adjacent 3rd party or not cast was a vote of "This is fine."
But still, the key points are the elections and their consequences (incl. locking in SCOTUS).
Sorry, what bezos and Leon want matters a whole lot more than our votes.
Voters can also voice their displeasure. But so far... No protests. What is the message to the politicians (and the oligarchs)? "We do not mind."
It obviously hasn’t worked!!!! Make a spectacle and don’t legitimize any of this
Big assumption here. Big.
🥴🤬😠
Whoever continues to play his game for their comfort when it should be game over -- is complicit.
You had a good run Murica.
Sorry it had to end like that.
Attack !!!!
The case is now in an Arizona court for others involved with the election fraud.
They stalled it long enough to allow Trump to continue destroying America.
Judges are political appointees offering skewed partisan rulings.
No adequate separation of powers.
Constitution doesn’t disqualify candidates with outstanding indictments.
SCOTUS immunity decision clearly an abuse of position and skewed R panel.
All needs fixing.
I can only imagine how much worse their behaviour will be going forward. And how little the public will care.
An indictment of our collective current values.
Imma going to stop you right there.
I thought it was the Law of the Land.
When did SCOTUS obtain the power to amend the Constitution?
Giving Felon 45 immunity from his crimes against America was decided by only a few SC justices.
Dusted off and reversed by plumbers Alito, Roberts and willing allies.
Nixon called together friends to fight impeachment. It was an intervention. Goldwater smiled and told him: "Dick, you've got 2 votes in Senate, and I'm not one of them."
*Keep in mind it was a group of Republicans that originally brought the felon47 disqualification case.
Why does our system fail? People don’t do their jobs.
Why do doors fall off planes? People don’t do their jobs…
America, one fat lazy ass society and it shows everywhere. It’s one of those things you just can’t hide.
WTF did we do?