some dude trying to explain to me how force-femme erotica has a deep history of commenting on society's devaluation of women & thus it's actually a good kink to have, unlike force-masc, which is a bad kink to have, and I'm like shut up man, let people jerk off to whatever, you don't need a manifesto - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

bitterkarella.bsky.social • 4 days ago

some dude trying to explain to me how force-femme erotica has a deep history of commenting on society's devaluation of women & thus it's actually a good kink to have, unlike force-masc, which is a bad kink to have, and I'm like shut up man, let people jerk off to whatever, you don't need a manifesto

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rubbereevee.bsky.social•4 days ago

i remember this one from tumblr, circa 2024! i remember a post reminiscent of a 12 car pileup arguing that forcefem is historic & groundbreaking in the queer community. & forcemasc fetishers were committing transmisogyny & cultural appropriation by cranking it to forcably getting their heads shaved.

rubbereevee.bsky.social•4 days ago

i found the post!! wont send the whole thing cause its a nightmare, but i will correct myself.
they didnt call forcemasc cultural appropriation, they called it gentrification!
I apologize to all my more oppressed tsisters for jorking it to being forced to wear basket ball shorts... im a monster.

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bowsnonk.bsky.social•4 days ago

I gotta ask: what is the ratio of force-femme material to force-masc? because I literally don’t think I’ve even seen the latter

bowsnonk.bsky.social•4 days ago

like I’m sure it exists and I just don’t see it because I don’t seek it out, but on the other hand I have seen a LOT of force-femme stuff and I don’t seek that out either

bitterkarella.bsky.social•4 days ago

this is also my experience

flameswallower.bsky.social•4 days ago

I’ve seen force masc maybe 2-3 times without looking for it, always specifically in a trans guy context. I think it’s way less common/popular!

maximumgraves.bsky.social•4 days ago

ratio is extremely skewed in favor of force femme, force masc is barely a thing except among trans guys consciously trying to create a distaff counterpart + a small population of tf fetishists

maximumgraves.bsky.social•4 days ago

i think the basic issue is that being "feminized" is societally considered sexually humiliating and that creates an erotic taboo but being "masculinized" isn't charged in that way

nataliereed84.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yeah… I feel pretty much everywhere a big, noticeable gap is seen between attitudes towards transmasculinity vs transfemininity, it always kinda boils down to patriarchy, and how transfem violation of gender norms is more taboo and more of a “breach” than other violations, due to the movement..

nataliereed84.bsky.social•4 days ago

…*against* the grain of the assumed heirarchy. And kink almost always revolves around taboo in some way or another.

It might also have something to do with the way women are perceived as objects of desire and men as agents who act upon desire too?

maximumgraves.bsky.social•4 days ago

yeah, that tracks. there's a lot of fetishism revolving around "loss of status", and moving from "agent" to "object", especially within the subgenre of transformation fetishism.

gammarae.design•4 days ago

Dude literally "in this essay I will" memed but unironically

bitterkarella.bsky.social•4 days ago

"the fetish that i don't have is bad, actually" it's the year of our lord 2025 are we still doing this

bitterkarella.bsky.social•4 days ago

actually my erotica about an embarrassing accident at the blueberry inflation factory has a lot to say about the history of labor relations

bitterkarella.bsky.social•4 days ago

actually i think it's very funny to think of the wonka chocolate factory as the "blueberry inflation factory"

teeaitchare.bsky.social•4 days ago

It’s hilarious to me that this movie is burned into so many people’s brains from childhood, so untouchably ironic that they can’t ejaculate unless you recite the script, and when I saw it at age 9 I was like “They left out the Square Candies that Look Round! NO STARS”

teeaitchare.bsky.social•4 days ago

(I meant “iconic” but I guess ironic works too)

derkusanthropus.bsky.social•3 days ago

Does anyone truly comprehend the power of unleashing a fetish across multiple generations of people? Not just to awaken a few individuals to their freaky passenger, but to usher in a new subphylum of fantasy that every person will eventually be exposed to and many succumb to it like Violet?

sinfulred.bsky.social•4 days ago

I think blueberry tf is unappealing and overplayed so just u wait til I come at u with a spiteful notes app manifesto about how your gum-based mutation fantasy is a reflection of your neoliberal bourgeoisie proclivities toward conspicious consumption and submission to the interests of capital

derkusanthropus.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm already ghost writing the story about a semi secret branch of OSHA specifically made to deal with things like being creme filled in the doughnut factory. Just need a catchy name for it.

jacobstrick.bsky.social•4 days ago

Deny it all you like but had the Oompa-Loompas unionized the experimental pill would not have inflated that poor girl

omendreamer.bsky.social•4 days ago

In fairness, there were a LOT of health and safety violations at that factory.

bitterkarella.bsky.social•4 days ago

oops! all blueberries!

darthhellokitty.bsky.social•4 days ago

Much like someone needs to install a whole lot of guardrails in the Star Wars universe!

katelechler.bsky.social•4 days ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂

nataliereed84.bsky.social•4 days ago

Genuinely can’t tell if your inflation kink is a bit or just you being completely open about it lol

bitterkarella.bsky.social•4 days ago

It's not my main thing, but it's my funniest kink so its the one i usually bring out when i want to make a jokey jape XP

nataliereed84.bsky.social•4 days ago

Haha! Such impish whimsy! You are a truly Puckish jester!

bitterkarella.bsky.social•4 days ago

i am mostly a fat fetishist, but i try to avoid speaking too glibly about that cuz it can come off as objectifying. but i don't need to worry about othering when i'm talking about fantasy blueberry shenanigans. no pc gone mad wokescold virtue signal mob will cancel me for that!!!!

nataliereed84.bsky.social•4 days ago

(i’m sorry, the word “jape” does things to my brain)

boxofmillipedes.bsky.social•4 days ago

tile fetish guy was just holding a mirror up to society

machminotaur.bsky.social•4 days ago

I feel like tilefucker was a century ago but it was probably only a dec- ah. hmm

strangelibrary.com•4 days ago

Yes, the old toxic arguments never go away, they just get sanded down and made more esoteric. Dumbasses never admit they're wrong or change their ways, they just try to find new ways to repackage the statements people called them dumbasses over.

strangelibrary.com•4 days ago

And I wish this was just guys or cis people but nope the person I know who does this the most is a nonbinary person whose shitty arguments became shitty social justice arguments became shitty repackaged social justice arguments without changing the core stances.

ofvick.bsky.social•4 days ago

All fetishes will be punished by transport to Panama before Pride Month, what is this kind of posturing even trying to achieve

eveharms.com•4 days ago

But if my personal preferences don’t make me a good person that means I actually have to do something

bitterkarella.bsky.social•4 days ago

noooo i hate doing something 😭

khlazarus.bsky.social•4 days ago

but, I mean, if you *do* need a manifesto, aim for one of the more interesting ones, like something of Artauds' maybe..

ek-braveman.bsky.social•4 days ago

oh no. the tumblr discourse escaped containment.

theotherspeakman.bsky.social•4 days ago

*crossing out Make a Jerkoff Manifesto from my to-do list*

Yes of course.

mxmetaphor.bsky.social•4 days ago

Just enjoy the superfluous layering of petticoats in peace

davidlanteigne.bsky.social•4 days ago

I was hoping this would be erotica about Femme Force Five.

ligernull.bsky.social•4 days ago

The 2nd Wave feminists who came up with "the personal is political" have much to answer for.

grindagoat.bsky.social•4 days ago

It's the modern "I read playboy for the articles, actually"