also iirc there was some idea with horizon worlds about some kind of second-life esque VR real estate sales and like someone would have a VR job selling you VR coffee. on top of whatever regular job you might have irl. just completely going up your own ass. meta as hell
Dan Olson did a whole video on this exact thing about a different metaverse platform. This isn't even the second time someone failed at this. At least Second Life found a bit of a purpose.
I recall someone describing a legitimate value proposition of having a meta house next to snoop dogg’s meta house. “Oh well that could be worth a lot in the future” yeah or it could be worth absolutely nothing, where was the market for any of this garbage?
Carmack was why I bought a Quest 2 to begin with and it’s clearly working as intended. Extremely capable VR headset with its own self contained ecosystem that works fluidly. Or plug it in and use it like a normal headset.
And the hand tracking wasn’t half bad in a $300 package.
It was way too early. There’s potential for sure. Attending live events for example. There’s just too many missing pieces to the puzzle piece of VR. Need lighter tech, way to fix the nausea and compatible infrastructure/tech.
Its truly unfortunate since VR has *so* much potential. There's a nearly infinite amount of directions to develop, and accomplish things, and the sky's honestly the limit in terms of creative potential and expression, but unfortunately corporate brainrot *has* can't leave it unscathed
Remember the Walmart thing where you uh drive to Walmart but you don't go in, you use vr to shop in a virtual store then they uh bring your stuff out to your car I think?
Actual environmental efficiency (walkable neighborhoods, mixed use development, etc.) isn’t their concern. They just want some new tech that they can own the entire supply chain for. The people running the tech world since 2000 are financiers not techies
He would rather give the money to Trump so he can theoretically suck his dick than do anything good. Glad his VR is failing. Hope everything he does from now on fails.
Why would I want to be an owner of the Metaverse, which no one wanted? But I fear more of the same with AI. That they won't be able to get any profit off it.
You say ‘’No one wanted’’ But that’s on u and no one could really give two shits what u want or don’t want that’s just the facts, As for AI, Sit back relax and watch them profit off of it mark my words on that one.
No one cared about the Metaverse. It failed. They burned $45 billion of my money which is why I sold. Spending $75 billion in AI without knowing if they will make any money off it. I don't own it anymore so its not my problem.
Let me get this through to u and I want u to remember this, You should NOT be an investor if u are out here looking for short term returns, You are only setting yourself up for disappointment, the zuck never said the metaverse was gonna be short term in anyway, Have some common sense.
It's probably a logical step... if, at some point, in the somewhat distant future, enough technological leaps accrue so that glasses aren't much bulkier than a normal pair of sun glasses, and can also do AR and the experience is really good.
Until then they'll be niche gaming rigs and porn viewers
The fact that he and his ilk have that much money to blow makes them horrible people. A country’s wealth does its people zero good if it’s being hoarded in private bank accounts.
The funny thing is I think Facebook vr was at least a little popular as a toy, but he would not settle for anything short of getting people into the matrix pods
He should have bought epic as they seem to be on the right path for a metaverse with Fortnite, then the productivity side of it would have come out of it naturally later.
I've been excited about vr my whole life (even made a vr game in the early days), but then I heard somebody that bows to fascists is leading the charge for vr.....
Maybe AR is a better plan
Yeah every time I think of VR I think about the machines they used to have at amusement parks in the '90s, Nintendo Virtual Boy, and Sega VR-1. Those didn't generate much interest either.
Personally, I think there is a subconscious animal discomfort with the vulnerability of not being able to see your actual surroundings while being expected to move, and with your hands occupied to-boot.
Global customers reviewing plans like architecture plans where you could enlarge the building to walk through or go down to the wiring etc. VR is best for training and for doing things that are normally impossible because of physics.
I like that his idea and attitude about VR was “people are going use this for meetings and other job related stuff” Yeah that’s what is going to make VR popular
I have a theory that the reason they don't quit is, once vr goggles get cheap enough it'll be there ready for people to get addicted to. The matrix begins
Maybe he will be a pioneer for the first deep dive, and get over 2000 people stuck inside right before copying his mind over and killing himself, and not let anyone leave until they beat the game.. #SAO
I hope VR is just a perpetual pit trap for silicon valley lol
like, sure, eventually chips and screens will get small enough that they won't be incredibly uncomfortable to have on for more than like 30m, but I've got a feeling it's always gonna be super disorienting
Honestly it was kind of an amazing hype cycle; everyone on the outside could see it was dog shit, but dudes in tech and VCs couldn’t stop rimming each other over how it was the future for a solid 6 months to a year.
We’re in the 69 phase of AI right now. The difference sadly is that AI will have very real applications. But mostly for corporations, not individuals. And it won’t be driven by solving people’s problems, so much as by a corporate desire to save money.
What surprises me is how much companies are willing to spend on AI that performs as poorly as or more poorly than humans. They could invest that money in their human capital and have AI there to assist the humans
Honestly, that doesn’t even require AI. Just automate a certain % of denials and have no way for customers to appeal except through an LLM chatbot that’s trained to never quite connect them to a human
I know both the technology and the business. I’ll clean up. A simple introduction to Warren Buffett and General Re, and we’ll be on our way! Make the intro and I’ll cut you in for 10%
I don't understand how it's possible for it to have cost so much. Isn't it just a bunch of nerds programming on computers. It's not like they're building it out of gold.
What's wild is the Quest 3 is still one of the best headsets on the market too, but a lot of that is down to the fact you can use it for wireless PC VR. Outside of a few exclusives, anything meta-related sucks shit. Once a competitor releases their own Quest 3 equivalent meta is cooked lmao
The Metaverse is a joke, but Zucc's obsession with it gave us AC Nexus, Arkham Shadow, Asgard's Wrath 2 and many other top tier VR games that likely wouldn't have existed otherwise, so I'm cool with it. Keep wasting money as long as you give me cool games to pirate (cuz I'm never giving Meta money)
Imagine if he had paid that in taxes instead. We could have healthcare instead of billionaires gambling away what should be our tax dollars on a concept of a bad idea.
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I think the VR dicks figured they could also sell a fake idea but failed to realise they didn't have decades of positive associations to bank off of.
But I'm pretty sure you're not gonna listen, so bye
And the hand tracking wasn’t half bad in a $300 package.
... Oh, and brainwashing us into liking it, of course.
A few blockbuster movies too.
All with a nice return on investment.
I remember the tutorials and some games from before Zuck bought Oculus and they looked better than the stuff he's putting out under his brand.
He's just like Musk, buy a company and make it crap
Until then they'll be niche gaming rigs and porn viewers
VR Roblox sounds more appealing.
Maybe AR is a better plan
HE SPENT THAT MUCH?!?
Freudian slip? 🤔
like, sure, eventually chips and screens will get small enough that they won't be incredibly uncomfortable to have on for more than like 30m, but I've got a feeling it's always gonna be super disorienting