Sadly, they are in a cult,which means they are immunized to being open to anything that goes against the narrative supplied by the leader. No matter how stupid the narrative or how obvious the truth is, as long as they are in the cult, they will not allow themselves to entertain it in any way.
Prof Criminology:
Ousey, Coll Wm&Mary, VA
Kubrin, UC Irvine:
"More #immigration = less crime. It’s rare to find studies tht show crime following increases in immigration or with larger % of population that are #immigrants."
Any life lost by the hands of another human being is terrible I don’t care if it’s done by an American citizen or someone here illegally or if it’s an orange martian from outer space. The outcry should be equally the same!
Agree, but for a lot of maga, they'd rather scream louder about the 34 or so immigrant murders rather than the over 8000 citizen murders. We now have the Laken Riley act. How about the McGehee act, who was murdered by Hunter Nolan Chenoweth.
Most maga doesn’t want to admit that they are prejudice. I’ll say it I’m prejudice against those who come here and don’t attempt to learn the language. I have no problem with ppl coming to the United States for a better life but learn our language.
I used to interact with our factory workers, who were 30% black, 38% Hispanic and the rest white. Carla ran one of the departments and spoke great English. I asked why some of the other girls didn't after being here for so long. She said they didn't drive & never left their neighborhoods.
I’m a truck driver and half of them either act like they can’t speak English or honestly can’t makes it hard for them at truck stops and food places…some of them have translator apps up on their phones to communicate. But it’s rare…
Money speaks volumes. In Cancun and Riviera Maya the majority of workers, working with tourists, speak English. These areas depend on tourist dollars to feed their children.
Or notify the secret police… imagine when they start to crack down on unpatriotic dining… and patronage of other establishments pretty sure people frequenting Jewish establishments would’ve had a stern talking to back in the day… start making phone calls…
What's sad is we have more access to information than we've ever had yet most of these fucking people won't look anything up. They just repeat the unmitigated lies they hear on Fox noise
Do these help sport? I realize you are spoon fed your talking points
All you need is a calculator sport & you’ll see I’m 100% accurate. That is if you can do grade school math which I doubt you have the ability to do. Cheers.
This is what's called fake news folks. Just a stupid statement to distract, distort, and delay. If you want to make a positive difference in people's lives, join us in America First policies that are designed to help us all.
There are estimated 11M Undocumented Immigrants and 204M Caucasians in the USA. Using your numbers UI's murder rate is 0.26 murders per 100k people and Caucasians 4.33 murders per 100k people.
This way it is normalized to account for population.
No, 17 times; 4.33/0.26 = 16.67, so 17x.
Based on victim rate, 300x more likely to be murdered by a Caucasian, but there are 20 times more of them.
Adjusted this for population...
Victim Rate Caucasian: 0.13
Victim Rate UI: 0.0083
16x more likely to be murdered by a Caucasian based on that metric.
What a coincidence, I was a Social Studies Student... 🤣
I'm a Geospatial Statistical Analyst; I worked in Community and Environment Planning, Municipal Engineering and Asset Management, and am now doing Marine Planning and Conservation.
I'm also doing a Graduate Program and Data Analytics.
To accurately identify them is not what is sewing division. Racism, losing it over a "border crisis" that doesn't exist, cheering on forced deportations to Guantanamo, sending ICE after children, these sew division. They aren't interested in your olive branch because their hate is willfully stupid.
I’m not sure if the more detailed information can be accessed by logging in. It’s a free account and worth signing up, but I don’t have time right now to dig deeper.
This is not the great burn that some think it is, when you compare how many white people live in the US legally, compared with immigrants who are here illegally. I would certainly hope that people who lived here did it more, than people who don't, since they are the people who actually live here.
You need to be trained in statistics or listen to a professional statistician explain what the data implies, otherwise it’s highly likely you’ll draw conclusions that aren’t supported by the evidence.
It's even more unfortunate when it's your family voting against your rights as a human too...me and my great aunt are the only 2 in my entire family (mom and dad side) to vote against trump..
Oh, I already knew the difference because I read just about everything I can get my hands on., Trouble is, MAGA"S don't care enough to get the facts, what trump says is the gospel truth to them. He's never read a bible in his life, his followers should know this, but they're keyed on what he says.
Let's assume there are only 10m illegal immigrants in 350m population.
35x 29 = 1015
So, 1/8 at best.
Oh wait, the felon orange pile of shit killed over a million people on average to the world population by denying covid. Why is that not in the statistics?
This post makes me think it’s time for me to start a print newspaper, delivered to red state homes, in larger print, and with clear short sentences, maybe lots of photos, because none of those residents are here.
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I like that people like this post because I meant it in all seriousness. There needs to be a real outreach and sharing of education. We need to start turning reds into blues so we can Win. This. Fight.
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and i think it is worse than that. they KNOW they have been lied to. and they have accepted the lie as truth because that is what fascsits do. loyalty to the man and the party not the country. not to it's people except the white nationalist nazi basatrds.
Truth,what theydo know is how much they hate anyone that’s not of their skin color would you expect anything else from the USA? That is why we are so easily divided by other countries they know racism motivates this country.this country was founded on racism.They must always find someone to hate.
Question: After these deportation are MAGA's going to learn they are the cause of most of these crimes, including the violent ones? That almost all white collar crime is Caucasian? I doubt it.
And hey when the immigrants are gone there still going to be more killings you just have to blame them you are you going to blame for those killings think about it
Without taking into account the enormous difference in the number of people in each of those populations, those numbers present fallacious assumptions/conclusions.
There's always that one who wants to bring blk ppl into a discussion that has nada to do with blk ppl. Why didn't you ask about Indigenous, Asians, and/or Hispanic Americans as well? Nope. Just blk ppl.
Can’t stand indoctrinated maggot kids spewing hate about how immigrants migrants and undocumented are rapists. They need to be more concerned with their neighbor, coach, pastor, Boy Scout leader.
We're living in a dystopian America because people are more willing to buy the hate-mongering lies that stoke their own racist fears rather than belive facts and common sense
This can (and should be) reframed in terms of gender, almost all homicides are committed by cis men, not women or trans people - regardless of status. It starts with men, not other groups - including other privileged groups like white people.
“White people” and “immigrants”don’t make sense as categories here. Many immigrants are white. It should be written “American citizens” and it would appear not “racist” like it does here.
It’s not weird I’m calling out the ignorance in the first post. If you want to talk crime stats you must look at all demographic’s then overlay the percent of the population each demographic makes up to get an accurate likelihood that any 1 person of any race has of committing murder.
Can someone link the gov reports for the numbers? Want to share on Facebook to try and convince locals but I'm at work and not able to find them quickly.
I get what you're saying, but it would have been more fair and accurate to have shown the numbers of passport holding Americans vs the undocumented people. Documented vs undocumented, so to speak.
Dementia and Aderall make it difficult for the Tangerine King to think. You really can't expect our felon president to know much of anything. But Musk knows just what he's doing. He isn't an American so he owes Americans nothing.
Thats why you as a white person should be scared of deportation. The illegal from South Africa won’t bat an eye when he gives the order to deport white US citizens too. Believe me, brown deportees won’t be surprised to see them when they show up at whatever place they are being sent too.
There goes a good, decent man. Biden has flaws, as do all of us. Did he do everything right? Absolutely not. But he never allowed a foreign actor to take over our computer systems and our nation.
In 1995 an illegal immigrant was found guilty of vehicular homicide because he was driving drunk, crossed the median, and struck my brother's car head on. My brother died from multiple blunt trauma, the most serious being transection of the aorta by his sternum.
And here's the issue. Most people in the US die because they have a heart attack in their old age. Statistically speaking, my brother would most likely be here today had this @$$hole not been here.
It's that easy for me to understand. For you people it's all theory.
A person who should not have been in this country killed my brother. Had that person not been in this country, my brother would most likely be alive today since most people in the US die from heart attacks they have in their old age.
Your ignorance and bigotry is showing. Your brother was killed by a drunk driver and you're claiming because 1 undocumented person did it, all undocumented people are the cause of crime. You're a bad teacher if correlation equals causation. If that's the case, all teachers are stupid like you.
YOU? Over the decades women showed up to help activists, NOT men. WWWtf little boys? In 1992 we opposed the Heritage Foundation first abortion protests. Were ANY of you at ANY of the protests since the RAYGUN ERA????????
I knew it, I'm white and the only people I have ever had problems with were white and the fucking people taking our government down are white and the people taking advantage of migrants hard work are white so we really need DEI because of white propaganda from fox propaganda channel
But if those undocumented migrants had not been in the country then that would have saved 29 American lives. Remove them all before they kill anyone else
MAGATS IQ level is #Idiot minus .. as low as it goes .. these creatures fling their shite and howl at the moon .. trying to woo them into sanity is a futile endeavor Obama tried, Hillary tried, Kamala tried their stupidity is stronger than knowledge, it's so dense its impregnable, 🙈😢
How many undocumented immigrants have e ever smeared their shit on the walls of the US Capitol building? Now tell me how many white people have done it!
Yes they do know the difference. They just chose propaganda news. (Fox)They also voted for the team who said, "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats" They chose the liar. His voters will suffer more than we will because we knew him to be a habitual liar. Not a deal breaker for Republicans
We can’t discount the fact that many Americans have been targeted by automated state-level information warfare for more than a decade. Many Americans were radicalized & brought into cult thinking. It’s not really a matter of intellect; smart people end up in cults. This was ruthless indoctrination.
Actually, I am. There are more caucasians in the US than any other group. Also, I don’t recall a school shooting where the perpetrators were not white. People believe what they want to believe. Not going thru something doesn’t diminish my empathy.
Yes. A black teen who espoused violent white supremacist beliefs, sources said. He expressed self-hatred as a Black person, and he wrote of wishing violence on other Black people.
ICE Enforcement Data
In Fiscal Year 2023, U.S. ICE reported making 170,590 administrative arrests, with 43% of those arrested having criminal convictions or pending criminal charges. Among these individuals, there were 1,713 charges or convictions for homicide.” 
I wish this ended with “you’ve been continuously lied to.“ As white people who voted for Trump start getting really hurt by what Musk is doing, we need to be able to invite them to the resistance.
Police officers killed 1,164 people in the US in 2023. 1/3 of all deaths from a stranger are committed by police. You are safer with an undocumented immigrant than with police.
OF those 1164, how many were POC killed by police officers?
There is a distinct difference in how police treat a stop of a White person, versus how they handle a stop of a Person of color
Oh, I definitely don’t disagree with the horrific stats on police violence against POC. We also know there are great risks to people with mental health and psychological conditions. Even then, I trust an immigrant over a cop any day.
They might not have known the numbers but they’ve always known the truth. It’s the HATRED for anything different that binds them together. We really need to stop tip-toeing around this truth🙄
White people are responsible for the colonisation and enslavement of much of the world, two horrendous world wars, the genocide of native peoples, Jews, Palestinians and many others, plus now a deadly war in Eastern Europe that threatens yet another world war. But yeah, stop brown immigrants
While Elon has his fascist incels rifle through our privacy in the Treasury, Elon makes room for his next monumental tax break to fund his Mars colony. Without 6000 FBI agents non of us will be safe. Can you imagine all the hungry desperate people fired from their jobs, with nothing to lose?
The math: 200 million people in the US who identify as white only. 13 million undocumented immigrants. If white people were committing murder at the same rate as undocumented immigrants, they would have committed less than 700 murders. Instead they committed 12 times that.
Apologies, my math was wrong because I was using 39 murders per year not 29. The actual numbers are that white people would have killed about 500 people, meaning they are committing murder at roughly 17 times the rate undocumented immigrants do.
It’s hard to get into their zones. If you speak against the narrative they shut you out. I live in a red state and still very little I say reaches them.
I’ve been avoiding my FB account for a while. My wife is worried I’m going to unload on the FB “friends” we have that we know are supporting it. Especially because some are blood. Im trying to do it for her sake, but I think she’s been warning people not to provoke me into it.
Your choice of course. I announced I was bolting FB after Musk got out of the moderation business. Announced to all FB friends to contact me if they want to stay connected. Those that did got my BlueSky handle
I still have a few friends who say “Trumps not that bad” but I don’t associate with MAGA
I used it last time to post about a bullshit Fox “news” segment that got flagged by Meta! I did it deliberately and sarcastically so the MAGA fucks would see it.
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Their whole existence is built on a bedrock of lies.
Ousey, Coll Wm&Mary, VA
Kubrin, UC Irvine:
"More #immigration = less crime. It’s rare to find studies tht show crime following increases in immigration or with larger % of population that are #immigrants."
"immigrants are less likely to be involved in crime.”
https://tinyurl.com/4dndnd8u
https://tinyurl.com/h36ksjq
#USA #Immigration Criminalizatn
https://tinyurl.com/jxcv9aq
#FactCheck: #Black #White murdr rates
https://tinyurl.com/y7l7lzuo
Homicides similar where disadvantage is similr (pdf)
https://tinyurl.com/y2h73s6h
'22: Undoc #immigrants paid $96.7B in fed, state, local #taxes.
For evry 1M undoc immigrants, pub svcs rec'v $8.9B ADD'L TAX REVENUE
▪️6 states raised >$1B EA #TAXREVENUE frm undoc immigrants
Immigrants Pay More Insur Than Rec'v Benefits
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2018.0309
Anyone who doesn’t love Mexican cuisine is LOCO EN LA CABEZA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_trucks_on_every_corner
All you need is a calculator sport & you’ll see I’m 100% accurate. That is if you can do grade school math which I doubt you have the ability to do. Cheers.
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This way it is normalized to account for population.
Based on victim rate, 300x more likely to be murdered by a Caucasian, but there are 20 times more of them.
Adjusted this for population...
Victim Rate Caucasian: 0.13
Victim Rate UI: 0.0083
16x more likely to be murdered by a Caucasian based on that metric.
I'm a Geospatial Statistical Analyst; I worked in Community and Environment Planning, Municipal Engineering and Asset Management, and am now doing Marine Planning and Conservation.
I'm also doing a Graduate Program and Data Analytics.
29 Americans were killed by illegal immigrants last year!
2 fuckin 9 Americans were killed by Illegal immigrants last year?
Are you fuckin kidding me?????
I had no i idea!!!!!!!!!!
Now i am fuckin pissed!
Get them the fuck out of the country!
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It just sows division.
They wilfully ignore it because it doesn't fit the narrative in their heads.
Perhaps say it’s not effective, and acknowledge that some people will still choose to be rude to racists. But don’t accuse them of being the problem.
Saying that being rude to racists is “sowing division” is scolding for not being gentle with the people who actually sowed the division.
Say it’s not effective. But DO NOT say it’s sowing division.
So no, I don't understand them and would worry if I did!
They hated you before you were born.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1466623/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-race/
I’m not sure if the more detailed information can be accessed by logging in. It’s a free account and worth signing up, but I don’t have time right now to dig deeper.
But the narrative isn't in their heads. It's in their feeds, in their news media, and it has come to shape their collective reality.
Agree. Brilliant.
David Lynch said it best: fix your hearts or die
his panic.
Dems failed miserably by letting illegal immigrant’s stay by the thousands, they blew it, lost the election for all of us…
Fix the immigration system once and for all, secure the border, stop running on it.
35x 29 = 1015
So, 1/8 at best.
Oh wait, the felon orange pile of shit killed over a million people on average to the world population by denying covid. Why is that not in the statistics?
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The actual crime, in their eyes, is the possession of brown skin.
We're not seeing white undocumented immigrants being rounded up.
🍊💩🤴 prefers the uneducated.
With liberty and justice for all.
Honor your pledge.
You are nearly 20X more likely to be murdered by an Anglo.
One could say we should take licenses away from men. You'd forgive my lack of sympathy for men in general, right?
Illegal immigrants are less likely to drive drunk than citizens.
When I was a bachelor in Miami, I had two immigrants for roommates. They sought asylum LEGALLY at a port of entry - one from Cuba and one from Peru.
They did all of this LEGALLY so it can be done.
This also ignores that his driving drunk had nothing to do with him being here "illegally" and everything to do with US drinking culture.
It's that easy for me to understand. For you people it's all theory.
It is bigoted and ignorant to say otherwise.
YOU? Over the decades women showed up to help activists, NOT men. WWWtf little boys? In 1992 we opposed the Heritage Foundation first abortion protests. Were ANY of you at ANY of the protests since the RAYGUN ERA????????
Fucking MAGA morons
You should definitely remake the image the way you proposed. Two pronged approach
Source: https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-school-shooting-suspects-social-media-linked-madison/story?id=118026643
In Fiscal Year 2023, U.S. ICE reported making 170,590 administrative arrests, with 43% of those arrested having criminal convictions or pending criminal charges. Among these individuals, there were 1,713 charges or convictions for homicide.” 
OF those 1164, how many were POC killed by police officers?
There is a distinct difference in how police treat a stop of a White person, versus how they handle a stop of a Person of color
Black WOMEN murder twice as much as white men. The FBI has all this online
Reuters says: "There is no nationwide data on crimes committed specifically by undocumented immigrants"
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-4000-people-are-killed-yearly-by-undocumented-immigrants-2024-09-27/
1. They spread lies and misinformation everywhere.
2. They ignore anyone not them.
3. Repeat endlessly
--> They don’t care. <--
But, this method works in reverse too
Spread truth everywhere, ( flood their zones ).
NEVER engage with them.
Do it again.
I regularly post on top Recons feed including Trumps official. Remember your dealing with evil people that like to use their power to hurt others.
1. Only post verified factual recorded info.
2. Never use swear words.
3. Never mention Trump having sex with underage girls.
4. Never reply.
I still have a few friends who say “Trumps not that bad” but I don’t associate with MAGA
I’m going to likely do what you did as well.
1. Only post verified factual recorded info.
2. Never use swear words.
3. Never mention Trump having sex with underage girls.
4. Never reply.