We need to call out the blatant lie being pushed by the Trump administration—that Elon’s staffers have only “read-only” access. It has been confirmed across departments that they have “administrative” access to computer systems.
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Democrats like Obama should be leading HUGE amphitheater events denouncing fascism and this corrupt administration. People are FIRED UP. Use the power of rallies for good and not just campaign funds. Let’s get to it!
The Kamala / DNC sent me something yesterday asking for money $71 as a matter of fact, to do the jobs they are already getting paid to do. I kinda think the people are going to be on their own for this one.
Someone help me with something…there are many lawyers in our congress. Why aren’t they slapping lawsuits on this mofo? Instead they are silent except to tell the media they are concerned. I feel like we’ve all been had by the Democrats.
Trump has stacked all positions that would provide mechanisms for accountability. plenty of lawsuits have been filed already. They are ignoring the orders. The only way to put a real stop to this is for the States to bring charges. That means we have identify state crimes not just federal.
I do believe they are working on things we can't see. These things take time and they are needed to be doing their regular everyday work as well. What I would like to see is lawsuits that address all the federal agencies and workers, etc combined. Stop access
Of course they do. I’m not surprised they are pushing this lie because of course the MAGATS and MSM will believe whatever he tells them. The bottom line is he has sold out our entire country and there really isn’t anything we can do. And still the MAGATS cheer.
Trump already thank Elon for a win in PA because Elon “knows those voting computers so well. “ there are videos of trump saying that. Now they have all our personal info to do god knows what with.
What the hell would they need read only access for anyway? Also, that's not any better! I don't want those prepubescent creepers "looking" at my information either!
And it doesn't matter if they got lowered to read only access. They plugged unauthorized hard drives into the system, the system is now compromised until it can be scanned and recertified by cyber security specialists.
Exactly what I’ve been thinking. Also Musk and his staff committed a huge HIPPA violation when they accessed private health information of government workers without their consent. Additionally millions of Americans private information was also breached.That should be a major concern for everyone
Technically it isn't HIPPA because with a few exceptions federal workers aren't health care providers so HIPPA isn't the regulation that we follow. But we have to protect both PII (personal identifying information) and Health related PII because of other regulations.🧵
We have to take yearly training on this and the penalties for violation. I don't remember the statue off the top of my head other than Privacy Act something
So with that being said, can we the people file a class action against them also for stealing our info, money and anything else? Can the entire population sue the current administration for HIPPA, etc, etc, etc?
Our gas prices rising, food prices rising. BUT " White House doles out $7 million in "personal expenses" for the 23 wild and crazy boys in their teens and early twenties working for Elon Musk. Remember, this is government efficiency." Robert Scott Horton
Any person who doesn't understand the ramifications of this are either willfully ignorant or just ignorant. The people who just don't know - just ignorant- I know we can teach. The willfully ignorant have no hope.
Coder here as well, and you are absolutely right, and he has done the same with anything he has ever built. I can just imagine his arrogance Musk, "We don't need to properly safety test vehicles we will just send them firmware updates, that also haven't been properly tested, it's just human lives.."
Agree! In addition, call out the lie that they are “highly trained”. These kids are barely out of high school and have no experience in any of these functions in the government. Be like “I just read the flight manual for this 757 so I am your pilot today”. Would you get on that flight?
Honestly having seen how "efficiency" drives normally go this is standard. Someone with no clue how to do a job sees a number on a page. People who actually do it point out why that number is so high and are ignored. Then everyone pretends to be shocked that people die because of the cuts.
Regardless, what are they accessing? Why are they accessing it? What did they do with the data? Did they alter any data? What data? Show me in the logs who has been accessing data and when? They are all criminals!
Musk is leading unauthorized, unfunded DOGE and his first moves included taking control of the nations wealth and it's systems of distribution. Musk has neutered Congress, they no longer control the pocketbook. We don't know what he and his team are taking out of our coffers or where it's going.
Elon's need soldiers brought in disk drives to copy shit on. So no. Not read-only. Such BS! He could be l, and probably is, stealing 100 million a day. Who would know?
I don't have much hope when legislators demonstrated an inability to understand the basics of how a phone app like TikTok uses WiFi and/or cellular data. They wouldn't even know how to tell if someone has admin access.
This is a useless puff in the wind.
Because they kept it read only.
They can just sit there and pull the data and read it.
Data that they have no legal right to access at all.
It should all be very trackable as well, as long as they didn't gain access to whatever historian or backups. I'm not sure how often they back up their systems, but yeah, I wouldn't think anymore than a day at a time.
What if they have rigged it so they can get in anytime and shut it all down or threaten to delete it all as a threat or revenge. Are we really going to let him rewrite the FAA system so we can connect to starlink so he can throw planes from the sky the next time he has a temper tantrum?
What if they've rigged tiny incremental transfers, like a penny or two from each account at Social Security, each month and transfer them to accounts outside the US without extradition?
Millions of dollars each month, unnoticed by anyone.
Might be why Trump mentioned getting rid of the penny. He is so great at NARCing on himself. Or perhaps it's a cry for help as the puppet strings are getting to tight around his neck.
Why bother, they’re operating outside the law and they have no interest in the citizens of this county. They can steal it all and nobody is going to stop them apparently.
Besides which, "read-only access" can include reading all the code and all of the contents of the databases, including copying and retaining that information.
America gets the government it deserves. The more they muck up the
More people will understand their votes have consequences. It’s not a silly game of “I’m offended a man put on a dress”.
All of his massive lies demonstrate his lack of contact with reality. He has no idea what he is signing nor can he articulate what the plan actually is. He cannot coherently respond to questions and God knows what he is like behind closed doors
I was an IAO once. Administrative access is what they call “God Rights.” They can do anything - read, write, delete, edit, change security groups, delete people.
I was also a records custodian. What they’re doing required a FOIA request and a record search. This is unauthorized search & seizure.
Please know that individuals can file a criminal complaint with their state Attorney General’s office to seek assistance with the breach of their personal health and financial information.
This right here. Contact your Governor and contact your state attorney general's office. File complaints and you keep complaining and complaining and complaining. Let them know you do not approve of this.
How can anyone even pretend to believe them? They are LAUGHING AT US as they name this coup after a famous oligarch position and try to say with a straight face that the E stands for ‘efficiency’ as they are dismantle the government, hack our systems, steal our data and kill kids.
I have a very bad feeling Marko Elez installed multiple trojan horses in ALL the programs he explored. He knows what will trigger them and he will bide his time until the heat is off and then take what he wants and cover it up with another coding trick. Musk knows and needs him to continue.
I figured he was adding back doors. He wouldn't need to know much about COBOL legacy systems to be able to do that, and some Treasury staffers, at least, helped him out of fear that he'd break stuff and make it unworkable.
If you have savings or investments that you can move without onerous penalties, and can figure out a safe place or instrument, it seems wise. I don't personally trust the dollar or the stock market now. But I'm still just trying to figure this out.
It's amazing that these young men come from a place that dox's people all the time and no one is doing it back to them. Absolutely bonkers. Silence is the only thing making them untouchable.
They were doxxed (some or all of the first 6 that were named), musky had the gov literally threaten people. Many of their names & work histories have been published (Wired covered it, and I've seen others as well)
The Immigrant from Africa, Elon Musk is stealing from Military, federal and citizens personal sensitive data, this is a massive crime and he needs to be arrested! Makes me sick thinking what plans on doing with our data.
Having read-only access doesn't mean you can't MAKE A COPY of the data, you just can't manipulate it at the source. If you copied "read only" data, though? It won't stay read-only for long.
I'm mean is "read only" safe? really? It's data, you read it, you now own it. How ridiculous to put that out there that "read only" is harmless. If they said they have "read only", they definitely have "administrative" the lot of them lie freely.
Along with that it’s ‘only’ SSA/SSI/students recipients etc info—-it’s everyone’s info
MAGAts, they have your SSN and god forbid your daughter laughed at one of these kids or your son stuffed one of these little boys in a locker—-you’ll know soon enough
Of course they have access! They are copying your PII and doing Lord knows what with it! If the feds can’t or won’t do anything, how about states? Any brave AG patriots ready to defend our constitution?
Well, I guess I’m already in crippling debt thanks to student loans. They can probably see how often my bank account goes negative. What a fucking score for them, and no one is doing anything serious about it. We’re just about dead as a country I guess.
Also, the Legislative branch decides how govt money is spent and how govt agencies are funded, not the Executive branch, and not some billionaire edge-lord with a mental disorder.
The irony of this is that Trump himself will lose control as this progresses. And even Musk may lose control of these young hackers. Basically they can take the United States hostage by taking over the payment systems, and then ask for whatever they want. No choice but to give it once it's too late.
i feel like they turned the cameras off just like they turned the alarms off on those SCIFs so the cops don't show up with guns drawn for having breached secure rooms. otherwise we'd already see leaked footage. it's chaos.
Wired reported that at least for a while they had write access to treasury software, but that it was rescinded.
I also know it was reported employees found themselves locked out of systems - that means doge or someone obeying them controls the identity and access systems.
Freezes and lawsuits and wagging fingers only matter if THEY agree that they matter. Because NO ONE IS STOPPING THEM !!! Get it??? It’s OVER, they’re doing whatever they want, and fuck anybody that doesn’t like it. Scream, whine, call… doesn’t matter. It’s already a done deal.
Yeah they might have been given read only access but … I’ll gather they have the admin and root access from digging around so it doesn’t matter what the sys admin gives them.
If you are root… you are god.
Apparently all new code. Even if the data wasn't written to, the. Codebase was, which is worse if you know anything about software. It was not read only access. Besides, he should not have even had that.
Hopefully she aggressively calls out how consistently DOJ has been lying on these issues to judges - the RI funding freeze case has an emergency hearing being scheduled for this weekend because the temporary restraining order is not being followed, and the topic came up in yesterdays USAID hearing.
I agree, RO access to data firstly puts you at risk for identity theft. Also, I doubt the ‘artful dogers’ are just spinning their wheels trying to find ‘excess outlay’ if they can’t R,W,E, or D the info. Also, ‘Read only’ means crap, if entire boolean programmatic metadata flow can be manipulated.
I just want you to realize how powerful your movement is. Your coalition truly respects the ethical and spiritual history of our country. Big energy. Good conquers evil. I’m being really metaphysical but I have faith we will win.
Read only of code isn’t what it sounds like. They can still alter code, just has more steps. It’s code verbiage meant to obfuscate the fact, they are changing code.
So I think a good way to send Elon a message would be to go at his new X-Money thing he's trying to do. It's a money app thing connected to people's X account. Visa partnered with him on it. Cancel Visa for Mastercard and let Visa know why. Hit him back a bit.
We also can’t allow them to keep shifting the start-line of the conversation. Elon Musk has not been confirmed by Congress. His "department" has not been enacted and was not when they started using millions of taxpayer $. He and his staffers are private citizens doing this all illegally, FULL STOP.
I’ve seen explanations that claim DOGE repurposed the USDS that Obama set up to modernize government software. Looks like the how of it all is still legally grey, but if they inherited the access from an existing department, that could explain how they got into everywhere so fast.
Yeah, a lot of us cried bullshit when we read that and more of us are calling bullshit over the court order to destroy the records he illegally stole. He has copies and he's working on those as we speak. Laws and rules don't apply. Wait and see
Allow antifa to remove the security non-lethally, confront the criminals, put them in custody at a blacksite, question them + do forensics on their equipment
If Elon places his own AI within government computer systems across all agencies we are getting very close to having a “Skynet” AI system in place. Science fiction is now fact.
They have SSH as reported by WIRED from 3 sources that were still inside either Treasury or OPM. Secure shell access let them remote in to Federal databses, code, everything. It is a known Teump lie at this point. There has been an injunction issued by a judge for Treasury.
And also, why should I feel comfortable with them having "read only" access to copy my bank details etc?! What kind of crazy bullshit is this? Republicans are suicidal racists and willing to get ripped off by Musk, attacked by foreign countries. I'm not interested.
They are almost certainly harvesting data and storing it on flash drives, stealing those drives and taking them God-knows-where, and installing back doors on government systems to enable future access. Recovering from this will take years, if recovery is even possible.
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"Read-only" is the stupidest fallback position. Can still use a pen and paper to make notations. Can still take a screen shot. Do they really think everyone is as stupid as their supporters?
Maybe if they called them hatchet men instead of this shit about them being silly young guys with silly names, it would be clearer what the fuck is really going on.
Exactly. If I see one more thing about them being under the age of 25 and to boycott the company of one of their parents. These are Nazi sympathizing fucking hackers.
The 20 something staffer answering the phone at my MI R-reps office tried telling me Musk’s minions have “read only” access. I told him that it was a MASSIVE lie and that by repeating himself multiple times did not not make it true. He hung up on me. #FUrepbarrett
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All it takes is a USB thumb drive.
These vibrant folks are making new street slang daily, it seems!
Get them out of one of the world’s largest data base !!
Because they kept it read only.
They can just sit there and pull the data and read it.
Data that they have no legal right to access at all.
Most people won’t know what having administrative level access means. It means war on our country from within.
Millions of dollars each month, unnoticed by anyone.
It COULD happen w/unfit actors inside the system.
One for "ZZ" Zig Zag Zuck, one for Tim Apple, one for "BB" Bezos and one for us
"ZZ" was @WH yesterday to pick his up...it all on tape.
https://rollcall.com/2025/02/04/white-house-opens-funding-spigot-for-doge-expenses/
More people will understand their votes have consequences. It’s not a silly game of “I’m offended a man put on a dress”.
Luke, something... Farttino?
I was also a records custodian. What they’re doing required a FOIA request and a record search. This is unauthorized search & seizure.
He's getting support from both the president and the vice president. They think it's okay what he said.
And also changed passwords to something epically offensive. And created cron jobs that restore that password hourly.
Yes it’s childish, no it won’t stop them, but it’s satisfying.
Fight back!
Having read-only access doesn't mean you can't MAKE A COPY of the data, you just can't manipulate it at the source. If you copied "read only" data, though? It won't stay read-only for long.
Along with that it’s ‘only’ SSA/SSI/students recipients etc info—-it’s everyone’s info
MAGAts, they have your SSN and god forbid your daughter laughed at one of these kids or your son stuffed one of these little boys in a locker—-you’ll know soon enough
- They can alter source code
- They can lock employees out of systems.
That means they control the logic of the software, and they control the identity and access management solution.
I also know it was reported employees found themselves locked out of systems - that means doge or someone obeying them controls the identity and access systems.
If you are root… you are god.
Be sure to answer vetting questions please! 💙💙💙
Taking the checkbook over to the Resolute Desk and bypassing Congressional appropriations.
https://myservices.cisa.gov/irf
I doubt Elon opted for a read only account
CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE
Per InfoSec stds, they made the entire Treasury system suspect & forced us to regression test & conduct forensics
Will payments be accurate? What mods were made? Is there malware?
It'll cost us millions to audit & fix
We'll probably need to build a greenfield system. Ground up. Which means millions more.
Anywhere from $10M to $100M depending on scope
We will all need alt-social security numbers too, since Musk has ours.
Or just have a universal ID (I know I know.... privacy.... tracking... valid but we're likely headed there anyway)
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This is all Elon Musk and a bunch of American billionaires.
#Robbers
#SensitiveInfo
#Unconstitutional
#Illegal
And I say The People pay for it out of Elon's assets;
Sue the hair plugs off his head.