I know those Long Island Grumman or whatever they are called now voted for Trump. Cue the sad email ‘oh Dear leader I know you didn’t mean to do this to me ….
musk will offer gig positions or lower wages with poor quality of work life— rationalizing they have nowhere to go, and that their output can be sold back to the US, for profit. He envisions himself laughing.
Roughly zero. A good chunk of those that "badge flipped" to Civil Service may end up back at their previous contractor position, which costs the gvmt more per bellybutton. So a net higher expense to the government. Not only shortsighted but counter productive as well.
Seeing as they're laid off, I imagine they'll collect some form of unemployment. Then Musk will have a new contract for SpaceX whereby SpaceX will get paid for work that the laid off folks did. So he basically gets a double dip & the government still has to pay the laid off workers. Efficient? Nope
In most cases so far people were not laid off legally. We can expect floods of lawsuits that are going to end up costing much more than the savings from the reduced labor costs.
True, not much, if any, of what they've done has been legal so far. But I hadn't even thought about the legal fees that will need to be paid. I also don't consider any of this to provide a "savings" in reduced labor costs. Sounds like he'll have us, US, bankrupted in no time.
And it's worse. The whole point of these cuts is to fund the eventual huge tax cuts for rich motherf##kers. All my life the GOP runs up the debt by cutting taxes on the rich then the Dems come in and cut costs to fix it.
SpaceX isn’t the only aerospace company launching vehicles, but it seems Elawn may have purchased the catbird seat to make it a monopoly.
This is distressing, and probably illegal.
Musk's companies will be controlling the entire country soon. They will start with the FAA and NASA and move on to the military. Trump will get 40% of the money.
That isn’t actually a law. But read through the Hatch Act about what they can/can’t do. Breaking the law would only solidify the currently illegal firings.
It's not legal for federal employees in the US to strike, 5 U.S.C. §7311, but in France it is.
18 U.S.C. §1918 makes it a felony to strike against the United States.
That matters.
Part of the law is that you can't even be a member of a union that asserts the right to strike. I *believe the justification is the services provided are essential. When the government "shuts down" many employees still must work, just without pay until budget approval.
It’s always been the plan for every department and agency. Gut the agency, complain about how inefficient they now are. Fix that by privatization. And guess whose companies will be taking over?
@altspaceforce.altgov.info hope it's none of your people. This is a clear conflict of interest where fElon is concerned, but he got that waiver from Mango Mussolini, so obviously it's all ok and above board.
There are plenty of reasons for "layoffs" of some people: Elon Musk, JD Vance, Donald Trump, Peter Thiel, whatever other fascists they're working with, etc.
Amazing Musk can figure out who to fire, or which agency to completely dismantle, in 24 hours or less, or even before he arrives at an agency - because nothing he does is based on facts or data.
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Who is now the Director of NASA Elon best private Client in own exo capsule dragon spaceship... He own a bifg figther oppositons aircrats fleet in the world with very big Contracts with Defence dept. just like Elon
JD Vance thinks that America needs a dictator or as his buddy Curtis yarvin calls it a national CEO. This has been the stated goals from people like Kurtis yarvin since 2012. https://youtu.be/VeVhHNSe9Ks?si=UbXeJ33kOp51XmZS
You fools trashing SpaceX hate sooo much that even someone who creates amazing things is demonized. You continue to trust politicians over billionaires. Unbelievable.
Believe that we trust each other, collectively, to ensure that any given individual doesn't profiteer from all the rest of us. I may not trust politicians separately, but I do trust government as a whole to manage complex situations and public goods. Privatization does not work well in the long run.
The fact Elon is laying off NASA employees, but no Space X employees should be alarming and a conflict of interest of sorts
Has anyone they’ve fired from aviation, Justice/fed dept, etc. been Republicans or MAGA or just Dems and Trump opposers? Are ALL republicans angels & do no wrong?
As a kid in the 60's I wanted to be a astronaut due to growing up with NASA getting to moon. Although I did not become a Spaceman. NASA did inspire me to become a scientist. Hence I spent 40 years as a Geologist for the Federal Gov.
That's so cool. I was a big NASA fan as a kid. Followed all the launches, etc. I built a model of the LEM and the capsule. Got a series of books about space from Time Life. Ended up becoming a lawyer. Oh well.
Nothing wrong about being a lawyer. When the law as written is applied it works. Just like rockets getting a man to moon in 1969. But when twisted by parsing a phrase, a comma, a verb the criminal legal code statues become like a Space X Starship exploding.
Word of advice: this idiotic regime will eventually go away. The scientists at NASA are brilliant, if he even has a CHANCE at NASA he should take it, regardless of who's in charge today.
I hope so too. There's not many job openings for an astrophysicist. Orbital mechanics and EM Spectral data analysis is hard to do. In Musk's world AI will replace humans
They aren’t stuck. Their capsule has been there for months already, but they are on mission right now (Suni is even the ISS Commander currently). They are scheduled to come back as part of Crew-10’s rotation.
Just a thought. Tesla tapped as best stock to short. Shorting doesn't affect the stock. But if more selling than buying, the price goes down. But a large institution consolidating shares to short & unleashing all at once could drive the price down, provided the shares aren't bought at the same rate.
That kind of percentage so quickly is just a forced budget cut. They couldn't possibly have analyzed any needs in that amount of time.
Personally, I'd rather see all business, no matter what, cut from all of elon's companies, then deal with the fallout. It has to be better than dealing with him.
Do you really want unreliable USSR tech driven rockets? Russia couldn’t make them consistently reliable, Muskrat with his minuscule attention span & inability to focus on the details hasn’t a chance.
ARE YOU STUPID? We do not want to blow up rockets and then cheer because we consider that a SUCCESS! We do NOT want SpaceX as a part of NASA. We want NASA to stop all contracts with SpaceX.
Ok don’t insult me just because you see it differently. SpaceX has a lot of assets and stuff that could prove to be of value to a government space program. I didn’t say make it a part of it. I said seize it and its assets. I never said keep funding SpaceX either.
Which assets are pretty useless and dangerous when they take out all the checks and balances that would keep them safe... And chronically overwork the employees that will bound to make mistakes anyway.
Just look at how he forced at one point, even twitter employees to sleep at work.
I hate when people jump to insults instead of trying to have a rational discussion. While I'd like to see the Falcon rockets under better management, I genuinely don't trust the people who work for SpaceX and would not like to see any of them on a government payroll.
it is amazing that he's going to fire the reasonably priced government employees to replace them with contracted workers and act like it's saving us money
And the economy will be like after George Bush left, people are going to lose their homes, astronauts will lose their life in Mucks rockets, and this is bull shit.
We should nationalize Space X and give NASA stronger authority to be a mission driven program instead of a vendor driven one. NASA is a crown jewel of the US legacy and it shouldn't be tainted by a CEO that wants to spread a dictatorship across the cosmos.We deserve better, and should fight for it.
At some point NASA will become a department of Space X. There is no valid reason to have two independent agencies dealing with space. America is being consolidated into one company, with tyrant Trump the CEO.
All about the money not the nation. DJT warned you all and were too blinded by his lies. Now he lied and taxes will b taken from overtime, tips and Social Security. What did u expect from someone who lied 34,000 times in 4 years. An habitual liar cannot tell the truth. So now u have a liar and evil!
I'm just afraid that his unlawful behavior will embolden ooliticians in other countries showing that
❌️they can behave the same way
❌️there are no real consequences.
For the sake of the entire World US citizens and courts need to.push back HARD.
Space X will replace NASA. Or Musk will head NASA. Trump has said Musk will update all the FAA's technology. They will propose this for other agencies. The country will never be able to get rid of Musk. Evven if Trump turns on him, Musk will threaten to shut down the US on his way out.
Anyone keeping track of total lay offs. Between boycotts, tariffs and layoffs, the impact on the economy should be significant. No $$ to buy Amazon, Teslas, Cable TV, Net Flick??
I am sure they will turn NASS over to Musk and pay him to run it. Isnt that what they did with the FAA? Soon he will have every government contract... Saving us money!😡
Death Valley is holding a Night Sky Festival this weekend with some speakers from NASA. I'll find out if anything gets cancelled when I pick up tickets on Thursday.
I think SpaceC should be shut down. Tesla should be shut down. Neurolonk should be shut down. Boring should be shut down. X should be shut down. Musk should be arrested and deported like yesterday. Just a common thug and grifter.
Yup. So glad they have representation. Hopefully SCOTUS will rise up stronger for the voices of the people, and We The People of our foundational Constitution.
Well maybe we’ll get some disclosure info from those fired.
We sure as hell don’t need to be going to the Moon or Mars when we can’t feed and medicate seniors, children and veterans in the US or around the world! Billionaire s can use their own $$$ for these ridiculous vanity projects.
I'm sorry :(
It would be only right to display in museum all the tech and diagrams amazing people like your dad worked so hard on.
I feel it's disrespectful to just lose or destroy such achievement: this belongs to the American people!
Clearly there isn’t going to be a nasa in a short time. I’m kind of down with that. SpaceX can take the contract, tank itself and then maybe if USA goes back to being a democracy at some point then the money once used for rockets could be used to feed all the starving kids in the USA.
Is there a repository of the total number of federal employees who have lost their job in the past month? We keep hearing % and #’s from agencies and it is hard to keep track. But it seems like the economy is going to take a massive hit in addition to the individual suffering.
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You fucking stuuuupid trump voters
You feckless media
You failing & weak democrats
Another sad reality is that we could have had ALOT more space exploration if our money hadn’t been cut up to give the military so much budget.
These are scientists who want to explore & learn. They’re making discoveries & breakthroughs.
They should be supported, not laid off!
The USA will be Muskistan very soon.
This is distressing, and probably illegal.
18 U.S.C. §1918 makes it a felony to strike against the United States.
That matters.
Luigi wasn't wrong.
I bet all the people who lost their jobs won't appreciate all the tax savings.
Mthr....fckrss.......
It’s killing me
His wife works with kids and IEP’s
It’s killing me
Remember, it’s now legal to bri…er….provide them TIPS.
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Make Musk Richer!
Who cares though, right?
This country has failed.
Profits going to a fund for illegally-fired civil servants and social-safety-net nonprofits.
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Has anyone they’ve fired from aviation, Justice/fed dept, etc. been Republicans or MAGA or just Dems and Trump opposers? Are ALL republicans angels & do no wrong?
Sounds like pr bs to me but ok.
Personally, I'd rather see all business, no matter what, cut from all of elon's companies, then deal with the fallout. It has to be better than dealing with him.
yes this is nepotism ,cronyism , conflict of interest on steroids.
Just look at how he forced at one point, even twitter employees to sleep at work.
NASA worked for all mankind,
But Musk had dollar signs in mind.
He cut their staff, he steals their pay.
SpaceX profits — big Musk pay day!
From an Engineer-Physician
I'm just afraid that his unlawful behavior will embolden ooliticians in other countries showing that
❌️they can behave the same way
❌️there are no real consequences.
For the sake of the entire World US citizens and courts need to.push back HARD.
And, as always, resist VP Trump.
🆕UPDATE
👉DOGE Slashes NASA Workforce: Mass Layoffs Threaten U.S. Space Leadership
#BeRelentless
We need a ton of "Luigis" or a natural disaster that only kills them
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/02/thousands-join-class-actions-fired-feds-weigh-options-challenge-trumps-moves/403087/
“fired more than 10,000 federal workers across multiple agencies…
“Coupled with about 75,000 workers who took President Trump's buyout”
It breaks it all down by agency.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/15/federal-layoffs-firings-2025/78761259007/
We sure as hell don’t need to be going to the Moon or Mars when we can’t feed and medicate seniors, children and veterans in the US or around the world! Billionaire s can use their own $$$ for these ridiculous vanity projects.
What a shame...
It would be only right to display in museum all the tech and diagrams amazing people like your dad worked so hard on.
I feel it's disrespectful to just lose or destroy such achievement: this belongs to the American people!
Layoff Tesla probationary employees
Layoff all his probationary employees
Then cut the Congressional funds to them by 50% to avoid waste, fraud and abuse of governmental funds