BREAKING via @nbcnews.com: President Joe Biden has decided to issue a pardon for his son Hunter and is expected to announce it Sunday night, according to a senior White House official with direct knowledge of the decision.
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If there would be any investigation (and I don’t know if there is), it would most likely be kept secret. You wouldn’t want Roger Stone and his goons disrupting things.
I hope there is an investigation happening behind the scenes. She spent months saying he was a threat to democracy and a fascist, But he wins in 20 minutes when it was supposed to take days and we’re not looking into ANY of the irregularities?! Excessive Bullet ballots, missing votes, etc.
Hmmm... 🤔🤔
Ivanka got trademark protection on Trump voting machines from China. Weird how they got it from a Country that they trash talk, to use in a Country that they trash talk. From a country that does not vote, to use in a place that they don't want people to vote.
The number of negative comments on other threads about this story are amazing and they closely correlate with fools who obviously couldn’t be bothered to read Biden’s explanation or to remember how the situation with Hunter transpired, even though it was all well covered.
Thank you Joe!!! Dont give AF after all the bullying you've had to go through. You've have to live up to standards others do not - you and Hunter and Jill and the fam ENJOY YOUR LIVES NOW!
I don’t think it was Garland’s decision. If I recall there was a Special Counsel to avoid appearance of impropriety. His name was like Weiss or something and I’m pretty sure he was a Republican. I don’t think Biden would have pardoned had they been fair with the plea deal.
Had Kamala won, I don't think he would have pardoned Hunter.
His argument is that Hunter's prosecution was politically motivated to hurt Joe politically - which is true.
But now with the MAGA GOP coming back into power, Hunter was in danger so IMO, this had to be done.
He needs to pardon those that the felon’s team has announced are targets. Gen Milley, the Vindmans, the entire J6 committee, Mitt Romney, etc. Not Bill Barr, tho.
Preemptive pardons are a Presidential prerogative and have been used in the past. The best example is Ford’s pardon of Nixon. No indictment, no conviction, no admission of guilt.
Biden needs to use his immunity and have this election investigated. Musk did something to the computers. There are too many bullet ballots only in swing states.
I don’t know whether he did or not. But I’d feel better about it if a forensic audit of some key counties were done and the findings made public. There’s no actionable evidence of fraud but why not double-check some of the statistical oddities?
Exactly. We know Twitler would go after them, if he didn’t forget, but his henchmen certainly would/will, to curry favor and for retribution. I hope Joe’s planning a last minute (or sooner) pre-pardon for all those who are pro-democracy and anti-fascist that we know will be targeted.
A few more for the list, if preemptive pardons are possible: Fani Willis, Letitia James, Dr. Fauci, the so-called "Biden crime family," all officers involved in the Afghanistan withdrawal. Trump's vindictiveness casts a broad net! It will be a lawyer's field day and a democratic disaster!
Of course they haven’t. But they have already been publicly threatened with investigation and possible prosecution for just having done their jobs. And if prosecuted, the cost of a defense can be ginormous, even if the charges are ultimately found to be groundless.
That was my thought too. I think it might be possible to pardon underlying act, a la Nixon. But usually it’s pardon of a crime already convicted of. I say let them spend time and money trying people they can’t convict because they aren’t guilty and it will bring a lot of info into light via defense.
The problem with this approach is that the cost of legal representation just to get one thru an investigation can be financially devastating. Much more so if an indictment happens and a trial. This is why people who aren’t guilty of anything may take a plea deal; so as not to be completely ruined.
“Hunter Biden was scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 12 for his conviction on federal gun charges. He also was set to be sentenced on Dec. 16 in a separate criminal case in which he pleaded guilty to federal tax evasion charges in September”
None of these people are guilty of anything. So they can’t be “pardoned” because they haven’t done anything wrong. Perhaps there’s another way to protect them from the orange stain’s retribution.
The first thing Gerald Ford did after he was sworn in as POTUS was pardon Nixon. Nixon resigned before he could be impeached. He had yet to be charged with any crime.
Right on point. The orange baby is going after anyone who disagreed with him. These people are courageous and need the protection of a pardon even if they have done nothing wrong.
100%. I hope that Hunter is just the first of many. Like Trump pardoned the future ambassador, the guy who looks like a snivelly Steve Martin, and a bunch of other maga wingnuts before he left office, and has already announced he'll be pardoning the Jan 6 treason crew.
Republicans should've stopped pushing it as a political attack on President Joe Biden, but they got greedy. It was obviously a political hit job from the beginning and violated the unbiased proceedings.
Thank you president Biden for having the courage to pardon Hunter . Make sure to dot all the I’s & cross all the T’s so the vindictive trump regime can never touch him ever
I don’t even care but at the end of the day had he let his son remain in that position. God only knows what the GOP would’ve done to him. He did the right thing in pardoning his son for sure.
Are you kidding? Trump pardoned his daughter's father in law for hideous crimes and then just appointed him ambassador to France! They better not say a damn word!
WTG Joe!!! About time you took that Supreme Court Decision out for a spin! This is making Maga's nuts already! Love it! Congrats Hunter! Sleep well tonight!!!
I'm gonna return to church just so I can pray for ONE very specific heart attack. I'm hoping for a prodigal son type welcome back, and my wish gets granted. 😓
This won't stop him from his mindless vengeful behavior. He will continue to want to punish B for beating him; nothing will ever remove his embarrassment at having lost and for being humiliated--not bc that was the intention but bc that was how T perceived it.
I don't think he'd have gone immediately, but as soon as he pissed enough MAGA off with his real agenda he'd turn to a very public persecution of Hunter to give his morons their circus. They're dumb enough to be diverted even without the bread usually included.
I betcha the buffoonish asswipe was lying in wait to pounce on Hunter had POTUS Biden not pardoned him. Expect the troglodytic MAGA base and the twat-waffles on Faux TV lose their mediocre minds shitless over Hunter Biden’s pardon. I can only imagine the monkey shit craziness over there at X-toilet.
I have been worrying about hunter since the election. I was tweeting Joe before I left to do it. I was worried they would put him somewhere bad and have him killed just to hurt Joe.
You’re right on the dollar! The Orange buffoon’s obtusely insane DOJ would’ve made up mendacious National Security charges outta Tarzan’s butt, and shipped Hunter Biden off to Guantanamo Bay without blinking an eye.
No it's fucking not. Im getting really upset with people defending him using these powers only to help himself while giving away any moral high ground we may have had. It disgusts me to be honest.
Pushing the limits just because someone else are doing it just dont make it right. The whole deal of president pardoning criminals have no place in any democracy.
This power is in our founding documents - they're very hard to amend.
I think there are legitimate cases where mercy can/should be shown.
Prior to DT, pardon applications were heavily scrutinized & recommended to the POTUS.
DT is corrupt.
He broke the system then pardoned his criminal pals.
But he’s not playing any games or being like them.
They used Hunter in the most viscous way. Biden is relieving him of a tiny amount of the suffering they caused him.
A huge difference is that Hunter’s alleged crime or crimes would never have been charged if anyone else committed them.Hunter was only charged because his dad was president. Trump family is guilty much worse and should be charged but his lawyers have always used delay tactics to avoid prosecution.
Explain to me how proving to them we don't have the values we said we had is a good thing? Don't turn this into something he did for anyone but himself
This is reality, bad optics be damned. That clown and his circus are bad optics all day long and he has yet to pay a single price. This is a real person with his sole surviving son.
Trump will pardon them anyway. reTHUGliCONs don’t care about optics. That’s Democrats problem, always worried about being seen as mean or insensitive. 🙄😤
He already said he was going to pardon "his patriots" and he certainly doesn't need a reason to be an a-hole. He is that every day. Dems could use some bad optics
feck.. trying to shoot Trump - did him some favour..
but this pardon - is not only criminal with a small c.. but an obvious license for Trump to be all the more fecking crazy and to feel entirely entitled to get away with it..
No way! Are you nuts? We already saw Trump pardon criminals like Roger Stone, etc. before he left office the last time! He also said he was going to pardon the treasonous murderers who attacked the capital! But, you go on talking your propaganda points, not buying it. Bravo to Biden!! 👏👏👏
so if you are able to recognize how obviously corrupt and dangerous Trump already is.. surely you can also see that that is not a standard to stoop to.. surely you can see that this only encourages worse still ?
"propaganda points" ???!! - feck off.. just basic common sense..
Of course I know how dangerous and corrupt Trump and his cronies are! Do you honestly think that corrupt administration wouldn’t trump up fake charges against Hunter since they found nothing over the last 5 years of investigating?? I applaud Biden for protecting his son!
Finally. I think that family has been through enough. We know that Trump and his goons will just torture Hunter if he’s not pardon. It’s hard enough to deal with a drug addiction and I know that from family members. No one needs this extra special torture, spotlight treatment.
While a blanket pardon for himself is (or should be) unconstitutional, the 6 SCROTUS members would probably uphold it. The only good news is I believe DJT’s brain is rotting, literally, and hopefully he won’t be relevant for long. Others, however, will be in power. 😞
If you defended the 34x felon, who committed sexual assault, stole national security documents, and tried running a coup on his country, you can sit out the Hunter Biden pardon discussion!
Don't blame Biden. What's the use of being ethical if there won't be any of it after January? Make use of that complete immunity before you go Joe!
He can always claim to be as brain damaged as Trump is and said Biden was!
THE LAW IS CLEAR
36 Nations say CONVICTED FELONS can't travel
if you live in these nations (that includes the USA) if Trump travels - President or not - he should be arrested - as a convicted felon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A06sQqSnlp0&t
Good. If Kushner senior can be pardoned for some truly gross acts and made an ambassador to France, then Biden junior can also be pardoned and get on with his life.
Yeah, I don’t see that happening. Not with Trudeau going to Mar a lago. World leaders will be respectful of the positions, and stay silent about the people. Diplomatic, even.
Finally decided it's time to play their game! Great decision! Hunter has been a punching bag for MAGA for too long! I hope they are seething over this decision!
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Ivanka got trademark protection on Trump voting machines from China. Weird how they got it from a Country that they trash talk, to use in a Country that they trash talk. From a country that does not vote, to use in a place that they don't want people to vote.
Trump and MAGA are going to lose their shit, call him a liar, etc.
And to that I say …
His argument is that Hunter's prosecution was politically motivated to hurt Joe politically - which is true.
But now with the MAGA GOP coming back into power, Hunter was in danger so IMO, this had to be done.
“Hunter Biden was scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 12 for his conviction on federal gun charges. He also was set to be sentenced on Dec. 16 in a separate criminal case in which he pleaded guilty to federal tax evasion charges in September”
Hope the Bidens sue his backwater ass.
The Bondi/Patel combo pushed it to the edge.
No good reason for Biden to leave his son at the mercy of such jackals.
It was a must for Biden before leaving
and a big fuck you to trump and maga .
Finally Biden did something right.
😂😂😂😂
Then they’ll throw HUGE parties on Jan 21st when Trump pardons hundreds of J6 seditionists.
The pardon was smart. I think it’s going to get very bad. Biden should plan to live out his days in a country with no US extradition agreement.
I hope this causes the MAGAts to lose their minds, if they have any.
🤞🤞🤞
The incoming administration is going to use the Department of Justice to exact revenge on their perceived enemies. DT has said so repeatedly.
In this unique scenario, Pres Biden did the right thing.
I think there are legitimate cases where mercy can/should be shown.
Prior to DT, pardon applications were heavily scrutinized & recommended to the POTUS.
DT is corrupt.
He broke the system then pardoned his criminal pals.
They used Hunter in the most viscous way. Biden is relieving him of a tiny amount of the suffering they caused him.
Now sign the ERA!
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but this pardon - is not only criminal with a small c.. but an obvious license for Trump to be all the more fecking crazy and to feel entirely entitled to get away with it..
"propaganda points" ???!! - feck off.. just basic common sense..
He can always claim to be as brain damaged as Trump is and said Biden was!
36 Nations say CONVICTED FELONS can't travel
if you live in these nations (that includes the USA) if Trump travels - President or not - he should be arrested - as a convicted felon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A06sQqSnlp0&t
IRS CODE 3401(c) - (look it up now)
that means they are all mandatory criminal background to hold their jobs
Every elected official in DC are now federal employees and should get background checks today
If they fail they loose their office and a special election after or the other person won
Chutkan was ready to go to trial 8.5 months before the RNC.
The trial was delayed first by lardass, then SCOTUS. Not the fault of either Jack Smith, Joe Biden.
Again, not the fault of either Jack Smith or Joe Biden.
Thanks, President Biden!
Good for Biden.