Between those 2 shitheads & the 81 Democrats that voted against trans rights, starting to think maybe this party doesn't have its shit together. At this point the clock is ticking. They have 2 years to prove that any LGBTQ person should even bother with their sorry asses. #demsdosomethingofvaluepls
Sinema's vote was pure malice: she clearly isn't serving "her constituents" (who voted for Dem Ruben Gallego). Manchin could at least pretend he's serving most West Virginians (red as they are).
But we can't rule out "malice" for Manchin, either.
Joe Manchin has zero redeeming qualities. Look for in trump land in the coming year! He will not go quietly into the dark of night. Also? The new rethuglican senator from WV is a MAGAT through and through. I’m so ashamed of my home state.
Them two aren’t dems…never have been, they are traitors for the dark side…but the real question is who bought them or who scared them into voting the way they always do…
They need to introduce the “cane mandate.” When they do or say something blatantly stupid or evil, the bailiff gets to beat them with a wooden cane. Or spritz from a spray bottle of acid, I’m good either way.
Joe didn't do much for West Virginia. It's filled with embarrassingly poor, uneducated residents, most of which are elderly, disabled, and unemployed. This beautiful state has the worst healthcare in the US and its future is BLEAK.
There's always a democratic spoiler, it's a function of their controlled opposition status. The democrats do nothing to push them or punish them for their obstruction.
Maybe not the DNC but back here in AZ she was censured by the AZ party & essentially told she would no longer receive support (after her "thumbs down"). It was one of the reasons she didn't run again. They immediately started looking for a new candidate & surveying Dem voters for a replacement.
Right! And so there are 45+ Dem Senators wanting to do the right thing, but because of one or two sell-outs, you are over here saying “Both sides are bad!” What kinda nonsense is that??
No one has our back y'all and we all have a bunch of pussies(Rep) and pacifists(Dems) governing our society. That makes me hate the country I call home.
The new Senator from Arizona will vote 99% with Dems camp’d to Sinema’s 80%. The new Senator from West Virginia, can you name him, will be voting approximately Never with Dems, but Manchin only votes about 80%. But congrats on your followers.
She tricked us in Arizona with her sad story of living in a deserted gas station as a child. Then after heading off to DC she flipped and changed her tune 🤮
Un-fucking-believable. Just when the pendulum was finally starting to swing a little bit towards workers, these 2 step up to ensure that between this betrayal and the incoming administration, the cause of worker's rights will be set back decades.
Manchin and Cynema need to be driven out like bad Conan story villains. WHY are they still in a position to do damage. Have democrats forgotten to go out and vote EVERYWHERE. Geez.
They are traitors, worse than Republicans. It's a miracle Trump didn't nominate them for something but probably even Trump thinks he has no use for that kind of riffraff.
Unpopular opinion...Manchin is excellent... for where he served. We took him for granted because he was not as liberal as we wanted. But he was the most liberal person who could possibly be elected in that state. Now we have a reliable republican instead.
Manchin has always been Manchin; "best" we can get out of West Virginia. He sucks, but still better than another Republican like Cruz. Sinema flat out lied about her beliefs and plans for the seat.
Look up her history. She previously held liberal positions & was a moderate in the House (this is AZ not Cali, how many liberals do you think are here). Once she got in the Senate she started collecting huge donor money & did an about face.
AZ was & is a red state. We've tried running liberals/progressives here. They lose. Even Gallego who is a moderate gets called a Commie here.
If the GOP candidates that have been running the last 6-8 years weren't nuts, no Dems would be winning here.
Also my argument is that the primary was where due diligence should have been done. Her opponent Deedra Abboud, who went on record saying she would not have voted for Kavanaugh.
Lots of angst over one Cloture vote on the NLRB appt. Yet he’s voted Yea on dozens of other appts and Federal Judges in lockstep with Schumer in December alone. + Wait til you get a load of Jim Justice.
If he's to get credit for other appointments then he also gets the blame for voting Yea on Kavanaugh, which again has far greater impact than a vote on other appointments.
Having a democrat who single handedly will derail your entire domestic agenda is a bad thing, and makes the party look like a fucking joke to the point they lose the popular vote to Donald Trump, soon, he’s not better. Hope that fucking helps.
More like demanding 100% fealty to party is ridiculous. Manchin and Sinema generally voted 80% w Biden and Schumer. Gallegos w be closer to 100. The new Senator from W Va will not.
It's generally sound, however, that means that more vigilance must be made during the primary process. Both Sinema and Fetterman both spouted populist bullshit that appealed to the Progressives by being "anti establishment".
May I suggest that Progressives learn from this experience.
If people actually did it, we would have President Harris. Simple instruction not to let Fat Mussolini take office again, and the left end of the party stayed home instead.
Sinema pulled a bait & switch, though. Since she first held office in 2005, she'd been aggressively progressive and quite outspoken about her bisexuality and atheism. The woman who was seated as Senator was someone I don't recognize.
Manchin is a goddamn Russian plant, they need to kick his ass out of the Democratic party he's done nothing but stymie them at every turn like a younger McConnell.
In November 2023, Manchin announced he would not run for re-election to the Senate. In 2024, he left the Democratic Party to become an independent, he is basically going on a speaking tour to cash in on his notoriety, would be nice if no one turned up to listen to him.
As a union member currently in negotiations with a company making record profits and bargaining in bad faith, this makes me want to scream. They just couldn’t bring themselves to do the right thing on the way out the door.
Why do the Democrats not hound out people who don't vote with them a little more, like MAGA does instantly after only 1? These people seem to just sabotage the Dems.
They did it to themselves. Biden and the Democrats saved the Teamster's pensions, with no help whatosever from the Republicans, and then the Teamsters President went to the RNC and tried to play the bothsides game.
They are, as they always have been, useless Democrats. Maybe we should adopt a more Trumpian strategy - get out of line - get eliminated from the line.
If we all agree Manchin is the worse, why was head of energy and natural resource committee and part of Dem senate leadership? Why did Biden give his wife a fed job? At some point in time you need to take a serious look at who enabled these people inside the Democratic Party.
If you lose your pension, thank Sinema, Manchin, and every GOP senator who voted for big business over the American worker. Every single GOP Senator is to blame. You couldn’t even find 2 who cared about workers enough to cancel out Sinema and Manchin’s vote.
They're filtering their script perfectly. This is how Democrats avoid gaining power and allowing Republicans to so whatever they want without openly collaborating.
Republicans want to sell the country, and Democrats want to buy, thinking the sale will be honored.
They have been reliable Republican operatives since the beginning. I suspect there was a payout on the way out the door for this vote. Both have always been for sale to the highest bidder.
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(You're both disgraceful to your country)
But we can't rule out "malice" for Manchin, either.
I will enjoy their suffering.
Corporate Shills
There are more where they
came from not quite
as shameless
You want to switch parties, do it when you are up for your next election, but doing it during your term in unconscionable. We elected you to be a Dem
Karma doesn’t have an expiration date
What in earth was in the bill that they flagged it?
This man would have been a great President. This is a fascinating interview about American politics from 1992. We've had these problems for decades.
https://youtu.be/DM8RJSegC-Y?si=8GaAQokHFld_m8Nm
Remember, the dinos aren't our only enemies
If the GOP candidates that have been running the last 6-8 years weren't nuts, no Dems would be winning here.
Also my argument is that the primary was where due diligence should have been done. Her opponent Deedra Abboud, who went on record saying she would not have voted for Kavanaugh.
I still stand by my statement that she just went full grifter after 2016 thanks to the progressive wave by fellow grifter Sanders.
No such excuses for Sinema, though.
May I suggest that Progressives learn from this experience.
In return, Biden has done nothing but treat him with TONS of undue respect.
Couldn't the fossil fuels whore have given Biden at least ONE victory?
NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sinema ran as a quirky progressive that was all in on lefty values, and couldn't sell out to the moneyed Right fast enough.
See also: Fetterman.
Republicans want to sell the country, and Democrats want to buy, thinking the sale will be honored.
*crickets*