Definitely not, it was something completely different when the later Allies conducted peace talks and decided about Germany after #WWII, Germany´d definitely started that horrible war, #Ukraine was invaded by the #RussianArmy.
No need to apologize for this action except in embarrassment what our country is doing. Our great country has become the laughing stock of the world; once respected. now shunned. Felon47 and Muskrat need to go.
They talked about everything except Ukraine, or nearly nothing about Ukraine. Trump trying to legitimise removing sanctions from Russia and use Ukraine as a pretext.. we can see you Orange Palpatine.
but everyone realizes the tyrant is going to "bail out" Russia right?
even if it's as basic as dropping sanctions
I'd bet by end of the year, maybe this summer after the SupremeCourt decisions come out and cause enough chaos for distraction while everyone is vacationing?
This is exactly how he negotiated with Afghanistan. Made "peace" with the Taliban without the Afghan Government in the room. Of course, it's really surrender. I guess he's already figured out that he can blame Biden and the Democrats for it.
That was my take. Putin and Trump figuring out which one gets what of Ukraine's natural resources and how they can make anyone anywhere bow down to them.
Why not? They tried to do the same without Russia in Switzerland. Obviously both situations are a joke.
The reality is these aren't peace talks. Just the players putting their cards on the table so talks can begin. Imagine using diplomats for a change, instead of tanks?
Trump's team allegedly has offered Putin (1) Ukrainian territory, (2) no NATO membership for Ukraine, (3) no US soldiers in Ukraine, (4) the withdrawal of US soldiers from Europe, including from frontline states, and (5) sanctions relief. Putin's return offer -- nothing.
So sick of the paternalistic, demeaning attitude of your so-called president. I fear for your nation. I fully expect him to run Russian style elections.
Hitler met with PMs of GB & France, said he wanted part of Czech where majority were German, nothing more. Those two said "no problem, take it." Now Putin will do same w/Trump about small portion of Ukraine even though he's said it's legitimately all part of Russia. Only an idiot would believe him.
FROM REPUTABLE PRESS RELEASE.
This is going to end very very badly.
For Europe
For USA
For Everyone
President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that Ukraine was responsible for Russia's invasion of the country three years ago, arguing Kyiv could have made a deal to avoid the conflict.
Canada just announced they will run all future US elections because of how badly the last one got fucked up. The decision has been made. Americans have no say. You can thank us later.
The US will align with Russia and create conflict with NATO - done deal. While it’s shedding real allies, it’s showing off nuclear capabilities and projecting takeovers of Canada and Greenland.
Meanwhile, Musk is building Kleptocracy and Control infrastructures for the population and elections.
Of course not. Lasting peace will never be established. The last 7 decades Americans have sung to a flag in school every morning, ‘made a pledge’ and were told that they are superior (most still believe this I feel). And now we are surprised they are turning into #fastists? #USA #US #Maga
and you definitely don't want the USA representing you at the table when all their leader is interested in is a nobel peace prize and ransacking what's left of your country for rare earth metals....
What happened to "America First" bullsh*t?? AND "peace" talks with the monster that BULLDOZED Ukraine for no effing reason! Keep winning America - you are making enemies by the day!
Seems like the US delegation went over to Riyadh to pull their pans down. Lavrov seemed to be very happy.
The initial intention seems to have been to split the ukrain cookie. 👎
They think they can. Putin will listen "carefully" then reject whatever Trump's 'big brain' so brilliantly come up with. Just watch. And it doesn't matter anyway, Ukraine will never cede all it's territory, or even just Crimea. It's all for show & Putin knows it. He's playing Trump. As usual.
Trump is already talking about elections in Ukraine. They will do their best to oust Zelensky, steal the resources and leave the people struggling. A new golf course will be built by the water and buddy gets a castle or two for outstanding performance. Rasputin gets everything else
Just watch..‼️
Ukraine and Europe - Ignore Trump's weakness. Block the shadow fleet and keep up with the "💥sanctions💥" on the O&G facilities inside Russia. STRANGLE PUTIN'S REVENUES. His army will collapse if it is not paid. #EconomicFragility
Ignore Trump's weakness.
I hope Europe sends peacekeepers into Ukraine. I think Putin would fold to peace talks quickly then. Cause as much as he says he has nukes and will use them, as long as no one goes into Russia then I think it's a load of bullocks. Money talks and money isn't derived from nukes so.......
And here I'd been thinking all along that Russia started the war! It is time for all red-blooded Americans to support President Putin and his freedom-loving North Korean zombie/Russian prisoner army!
Before "negotiations" even started, Trump was saying that Ukraine would have to give up territory. Russia may/may not give up a lot, too. Dude deliberately opened by weakening Ukraine's start position.
The US isn't an ally. They're not an acquaintance. They're adversary at best, enemy at worst.
“Nice country you have there, Volodymyr. Shame if anything happened to it.” The Trump Crime Family and PayPal Mafia joined forces to shake down Ukraine for “a cut of the business” with Putin as the “muscle.” The mafia analogy makes this all make sense. https://reframingamerica.substack.com/p/trump-extortion
Absolutely agree, you & with Ukraine 🇺🇦,Ukraine 🇺🇦 must keep fighting,Europeans are with you ,Zelenskyy must stand up to the Real Dictators,if Ukraine 🇺🇦 falls ,Europe will be at war with Russia because Russia won't stop with Ukraine 🇺🇦,European Politicians must be united or face the consequences.
So very, very fucked-up. I hope the people who voted for this bullshit rot in hell forever and that their grandchildren spit on their graves for what they have done
On a related note, I just negotiated a deal with my neighbor that allows Trump to remain president until February 21, 2025, after which point Kamala Harris becomes president.
AND THE LIES CONTINUE! THE DUMBSTER (BTW - HE ALSO CREATED THE SWAMP) NEEDS TO BE REMOVED NOW. WHAT KIND OF ASSHOLE BESIDES THE DUMPSTER WOULD FALSELY CLAIM UKRAINE STARTED THE WAR WITH RUSSIA. HE'S A TREASONOUS UNAMERICAN TRAITOR! PRISON FOR THE FELON!
Exactly, now Russia will play the victim and Trump and his minions will gobble it all up like the fools they are and concede on everything.
Russia will win after all thanks to Trump.
Not leave talks. Remember when Soviet Union and Germany divided Poland? This is a resources grab in its most undiluted form. Same with Greenland and property development in Gaza. Your leader is push, push, push. All business, no humanity.
This is disgraceful, disgusting, and utterly despicable. You all need to view this as the political theater that it is too though, don’t be fooled by their empty bluster!
Funny enough “shithole country” title really seems to come only from our direct actions. Haiti has some serious problems but it’s ridiculous to pretend they aren’t 95% at the hands of colonial Europe (and the lingering effects to date) and America
That may be true, but at least there was a chance to fix it. Now, there is little to no chance to save democracy and keep us from a full fledge dictatorship.
America isunrecognizable in terms of foreign policy. What happened to America first. Trump and Rubio are NOT promoting peace nor democracy in the Ukraine war. Peace talks without Ukraine is like an omelet without eggs !
Instead of talking into thin air on social media, how about actually doing something about it? Do not think Europeans will forgive you for your complacency or your nation's betrayal of the free democratic world.
In 1907, the governments of Great Britain and Russia signed an agreement to divide Persia (now Iran) between them. Persia had no voice in this "agreement", and it was devastating for the Persian people who were trying to form their own democratic government at the time.
Russia does not want peace,without a huge cost to Eu-UK,NATO.He will want his trade routes re-opened,he will want the right to invade any nation he wants without reproach.
We already about to make American Arms companies suffer,by buying inhouse from other E.U. Nations including U.K.
Exactly. Contrary to popular belief, Saudis do not like the heat nor do they like the desert much.
A nice bit of European real estate like a medium sized temperate country would suit them perfectly.
It's a farce, they just don't want the risk of putting all Ukraine's AND America's problems in one room where Zelensky could do the most legendary thing ever
President Zelensky made that perfectly clear in his sit down with Kristin Welker. The war is entirely on Ukrainian soil and killing its people. This is not a peace summit, it’s a realignment of historically disastrous proportions.
Ukraine used to be apart of the Soviet union. The USA had no business annealing it from the beginning. The USA would suffer deeply if Canada decided to Annex California and take all of our economy for themselves. People don't see it this way and they need to.
Apparently, Ukraine is now less corrupt than the U.S. Trump once failed to pressure Zelensky with quid pro quo and won’t try again. Instead, he’s turning to his KGB-handlers—masters of bribery and corruption.
Trump is trying to establish himself as a world leader, but the reality is he's gonna be outed for the clown he is.
Journalists should be asking what the US gave up to free the latest hostage from Russia. But the Trump administration won't say. Wonder why...
If only it were. Little Mario says the US will be lifting sanctions to enhance the *US* economy, as well as ruscias. Not a word about Ukraine's suffering, loss, war reparations and their own economy.
I keep waiting for the punchline, but the "joke" only gets worse.
It's not about peace talks. It's about corporate America getting a big slice of rebuilding Russia's economy after sanctions are lifted. If they make some $ off Ukraine as well, that's just icing on the cake. Why else are the "captains of industry" remaining quiet about Trump selling out to Putin
Why would Ukraine be at their own peace talks when they refused to sign over half is their material mineral wealth to the US in exchange for support? The nerve of them! How dare they not give up their sovereignty? 🤬🙄🤬🙄
True. Although they can decide on the best way to carve the county up, and steal its resources. Someone has to pay for the hotels in Gaza they are going to build after all.
In September 1938, Hitler, Mussolini, French Premier Daladier, and British PM Chamberlain signed the Munich Pact, which gave Czechoslovakia to the Germans. This was to “guarantee European peace”. A year later, Germany invaded Poland.
Putin: I get Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.
I’m ready and willing to sit down with Melania to negotiate the binding terms of her divorce from Bronze Donny Big Mac.
I will get it done in 24 hours, and Mexico will pay for the Wall, and everyone wants to be my friend, and I’m saving the country and breaking no laws.
Eggs? Give me 4 more years.
President Zelenskyy is getting the women’s Project 2025! DJT & Putin want to humiliate him, treat him like a child to diminish him as a man.The ONLY thing I see is both Putin/DJT showing the 🌎 there noting more than little🍆 bullies!
Belgian here,
This is treason, litterally making arangements, negotiating behind Ukraine’s back without even involving EU countries and starting talks from a position of weakness for Ukraine!!
absolutely outrageous!!
Putin is NOT to be trusted! He will backstab europe the first chance he gets...!!
To me this just seems like a huge publicity stunt. Ukraine The Latest and Eastern Border podcasts are very insightful in detailing how utterly weak and pathetic the terrorist army is right now, make sure to check those out
You northern neighbor here. We are witnessing an unprecedented arrogance, ego and greed. We Europeans need to close ranks and stand up to at least stand a chance to keep Ukraine and ourself from Putin. Not again fascism in Europe! And hopefully, one day, we might help the decent part of the US.
I agree, we will have to rearm or become divided between the US and Russia. Once we are strong enough, we need to make sure that Europe can't be destroyed like the US. We are vulnerable right now. We also need to cooperate more with the other nations that are still free, like Canada etc.
As a US person, everyday I pray no one whispers any more in Trump's ear which countries have what resources. He will want them and so will President Musk. They are after the entire world.
Portuguese here. You are 100% right. The US is now a treasonous, fascist state. I’m livid and really worried what the future is for everyone. At this pace the US will implode and have major economic and social impacts globally.
Sadly you’re right. The anger is growing here, so take heart. The protests yesterday were massive, and spanned the entire country. The resistance is just getting started
Sadly, these protests barely get a mention as all mainstream media pretty much under control of the oligarchs. Saw 2 second blurb on protests and several hours on plane crashing Toronto.
The USA needs the rest of the world to take action against the billionaires that are behind this; they are not going to stop here, and if you don't take action now, it will be too late when you feel you should. Do it for us, yourself and the sake of the world. They are a tumor; address it as such.
US person here. I am so thoroughly disgusted our "President" is working behind Ukraine's back with Putin to divvy up Ukraine's resources for their own benefit. Makes me sick. I stand with Ukraine.
Wasn't it appropriate for England, France, Germany and Italy to agree IN MUNICH to give some of Czechoslovakia to Hitler without Czechoslovakia at the table?
The war comes to an immediate end if the illegal aggressor (Putin) withdraws. That should be the starting point for any negotiation. After that we can talk about the cost of Russian reparations.
You can't expect Trump and Elon, the Rulers of the US to care about other nations, they don't even care about their own citizens... Only Money, and Even More Power.
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Thus, We see them work with this Nation's Enemy.
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Oligarchs are in charge, and they do not have "The People's" interests in heart.
Convicted felon Trump isn't discussing peace for Ukraine, he's discussing how to help Putin take over Ukraine giving the US a piece. tRump wants to follow along in Putin's expansionist wet dream.
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#StandWithUkraine
but everyone realizes the tyrant is going to "bail out" Russia right?
even if it's as basic as dropping sanctions
I'd bet by end of the year, maybe this summer after the SupremeCourt decisions come out and cause enough chaos for distraction while everyone is vacationing?
a bunch of clowns
Trump didn’t betray Ukraine.
He was always Putin’s bitch.
The reality is these aren't peace talks. Just the players putting their cards on the table so talks can begin. Imagine using diplomats for a change, instead of tanks?
https://x.com/McFaul/status/1891980286285553854
The US would withdraw Troops from the Baltic states. Our own Neville Nazi Chamberlain.
This is going to end very very badly.
For Europe
For USA
For Everyone
President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that Ukraine was responsible for Russia's invasion of the country three years ago, arguing Kyiv could have made a deal to avoid the conflict.
See how that feels?
#freeukraine #fucktrump #votingmatters
81% surveyed say they don't trust Putin incl 73% of Repub;licans
9% say we should trust Putin
Trump is with the 9%
AND FUCK MUST BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH THIS!!!
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5153611-quinnipiac-poll-russia-putin-trust/
https://snyder.substack.com/p/crossing-a-line-audio-and-text?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=310897&post_id=157454190&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=ax4s&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Meanwhile, Musk is building Kleptocracy and Control infrastructures for the population and elections.
Not certain this is actually a metaphor when the leaders of these nations seem to be as philosophical as the average toddler.
The initial intention seems to have been to split the ukrain cookie. 👎
USA: Hey Ukraine you need to do x, y and z.
Ukraine: No.
USA: Yeah you will, we told Russia you will.
Ukraine: No.
USA: You’re being unreasonable.
Ukraine: We wanted to be reasonable but you locked us out of the room.
What Does ANYONE Expect?
Of Course NO Talks Without Direct #Ukraine Involvement!
It's Those STUPID, "#AbrahamAccords", All Over Again!
#America - Ukraine - #Russia - and the World - Know Better!
What's gonna happen?
Just watch..‼️
Ukraine and Europe - Ignore Trump's weakness. Block the shadow fleet and keep up with the "💥sanctions💥" on the O&G facilities inside Russia. STRANGLE PUTIN'S REVENUES. His army will collapse if it is not paid. #EconomicFragility
Ignore Trump's weakness.
Read more 👇
https://substack.com/profile/185227270-shadow-and-light/note/c-94515470?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=32a29y
The US isn't an ally. They're not an acquaintance. They're adversary at best, enemy at worst.
https://reframingamerica.substack.com/p/trump-extortion
Corrected this for you, George.
Russia will win after all thanks to Trump.
russia is fucking weak as shit right now
America is now weak and irrelevant.
If these people actually learned history….
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We already about to make American Arms companies suffer,by buying inhouse from other E.U. Nations including U.K.
🇺🇦 Ukraine: I want all of my land back!
🇷🇺 Russia: I want all of Ukraine!
🇺🇸 U.S: I’ll scratch your back, you’ll scratch mine.
You can have peace talks without Ukraine if you are actually talking about carving Ukraine up between you and your Arab friends. 🤷
A nice bit of European real estate like a medium sized temperate country would suit them perfectly.
*Marked safe from being brainwashed maga or legacy media.
Really.
Journalists should be asking what the US gave up to free the latest hostage from Russia. But the Trump administration won't say. Wonder why...
But I suspect that's now how it's going to play out.
I keep waiting for the punchline, but the "joke" only gets worse.
Trump: OK. Can I have Greenland. Please?
We all know this without having a seat at the table.
They care about the resources.
More specifically about natural resources of Ukraine.
I will get it done in 24 hours, and Mexico will pay for the Wall, and everyone wants to be my friend, and I’m saving the country and breaking no laws.
Eggs? Give me 4 more years.
This is treason, litterally making arangements, negotiating behind Ukraine’s back without even involving EU countries and starting talks from a position of weakness for Ukraine!!
absolutely outrageous!!
Putin is NOT to be trusted! He will backstab europe the first chance he gets...!!
To me this just seems like a huge publicity stunt. Ukraine The Latest and Eastern Border podcasts are very insightful in detailing how utterly weak and pathetic the terrorist army is right now, make sure to check those out
step 1: rearmament
Thanks
Sigh
Trump and Putin are just dividing up the spoils. Next it's Europe and the middle east. WW3 can't come quickly enough to put these tyrants down again.
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Thus, We see them work with this Nation's Enemy.
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Oligarchs are in charge, and they do not have "The People's" interests in heart.