Don’t do it!! Grind the airline industry to a halt! Make THOSE executives start fighting with us and for us.
No one wants to travel by air with this shit happening….if we all resist air travel because of this shit, the industry won’t have a choice other than to fight this administration
He fired all the replacement that were in training and already on the job. But yep, let's call back all the retires, ope but they might fall under DEI hire do to their age, health conditions, etc.
It's bad enough Musk is firing all of the wrong people, but then you have Musk and Trump demoralizing federal workers and MGT outright saying they don't have real jobs and don't deserve a paycheck.
And people aren't jumping at the chance to work for the government? Can't understand why...
Elon screwed himself in his handling of ATC staffing. Those who left did so because he demanded they leave. Now, he's trying to un-ring that bell. Good luck with finding former ATC staff members after the way you hustled them out the door.
Cue up the headline announcing that President Musk is replacing the heads of the FAA with Judge Jeanine Pirro who has absolutely no problem raising retirement age to 90.
I also believe that this age is just for FAA controllers. After 56 you can be a contract controller at private air fields like corporate centers or remote locations.
But that's just what my brother in law told me from his brief time in training. Turned out not to be for him, went into maintenance.
I finally know where the Cybertruck design came from. It’s a swastika Muskrat put wheels on. The angles and the harsh ugliness is a reflection of his inner self. Cold, unforgiving, unfeeling. You know a real life monster.
Fucking bullshit! I don’t know your friend but no doubt she is 100 times a better human than that asshole! Tell her 🇨🇦 is on the side of all trans people!!❤️
So the asshole is okay with older retired people going back to work? The older people with possible memory issues, reduced eye sight and slower reaction times? That will certainly make us so much more in danger. What a loon
Amazing. Another example of an entitled brat making proclamations and decisions based on no facts, prior knowledge or consideration for the facts. It’s just shameful.
Attention irony: Strange that they hadn't yet the idea to decrease the FAA recommended staff number. Would solve the problem in minutes and maybe would even give space to fire futher people.
RONALD REAGAN FIRED AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER back in the 1980’S because they wanted to UNIONIZE! The system NEVER RECOVERED! Reagan’s ANTI UNION IDEOLOGY hurt aviation safety! Travel was not as busy them as it is now so the problem has only worsened! Elon needs to put blame where it’s due: REAGAN!
They shouldn’t go back to work unless they fire a cabinet member and replace them with a QUALIFIED individual. We can TOTALLY squish their balls! Let’s play dirty!
Turns out that his axing of jobs doesn't work like when he trashed twitter, remember the time he cut so many jobs that the backend failed and there weren't enough people to keep it from crapping out? Not to mention the fact he won't pay bills so the cloud storage was cut off, not smart...
I could be paranoid. If I already secured my retirement benefits, I definitely wouldn’t sign a new employment contract without making sure there’d be no change to my existing retirement.
Some people think that way because he is the so called rich's man on this planet. I do not think hoarding money makes a person so smart. This doesn't make him superior, as what he is doing is not going to better life on this planet. Someone with ethics and morals is someone we should be looking up t
It really seems like people assume that he MUST be a genius, because no one that obnoxious and charmless and void of personality could be that rich if they don't have some other redeeming quality.
Too much of our system is based on assumptions like that.
That's just it, he doesn't have that much actual wealth. He's not exactly Scrooge McDuck swimming in a big old vault of money. Most of his "worth" is notional and hyper inflated at that.
He has also conned people with a word salad of bullcrap on how he sees the future & will get us there. His promises have fallen short 4 years, & his delivery dates get push back year after year. His wealth comes from tax payers in the form of government subsidies & contracts year after year…
…though he fails to deliver. That’s why so many different governments agencies were investigating him. His main goal in buying Trumps presidency was: 1. He knew he could controlled trump with money, & probably the dirt he has in him.
2. He could form DOGE, (which was prearranged) & gut the…
If you are planning to fly in, out, or within the USA, it's probably a good idea not to. Fly somewhere else (Canada, Mexico, etc) and take the ferry or train, or rent a car. Better still, don't go at all until it's safe to.
This is why you don’t just go firing employees to show how efficient you can be without understanding the jobs they do. A company I worked for once did huge layoff without any regards to what staff were doing, the company lost a contract worth millions because they let go some of the sales force.
Russell Vought, Project 2025 author and Director of the Office of Management and Budget, has recommended creating a hostile workplace for Federal employees: “When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work..” I’m pretty sure the response to this job offer will be a solid no!
437,500 TO 1…….The ratio of American citizens to American billionaires. Tread carefully billionaires…tread very carefully. Because you now have our attention..and not in a good way.
Bc Rs control Congress and Supreme Court, and refuse to be the checks on power they are supposed to be against overreach or even incompetency. Sadly, the guardrails refuse to be guardrails.
Boycotts and strikes can help if it makes coup supporters suffer without the supporters just blaming the libs. But it also gives the opportunity to hijack the protests and instigate violence, then martial law. Rep Raskin recommends local, fast organized peaceful protests to avoid the hijacking.
Doesn't matter now he's the president unless the USA gets some guts to get him out. That video display was bloody appalling. Dance and Trump should be no where near power.
Amusing you have hope you will get elections. Trump is removing vote by mail, republicans want to force women to no longer vote because of their married name. Trump admires how Putin stayed in power for 20 years he might do a 3rd term.
I'll be surprised if there are any elections. Musk has sacked the team who investigate election interference, and Trump will declare some sort of emergency
It will be “interesting” (read: scary) to see where exactly the breaking point of Republicans in Congress is. Cheeto’s approval ratings are already in a free fall and people like the Virginia Lt Gov are vocally tying themselves to him.
you know, I don't think so. I think the maga will STILL vote for trump regardless. although less of them. we have to hope the 'less of them' is sufficient to swing the election to the dems. god I hope so.
Some people that voted for Trump aren’t steeped in ideology. They just wanted a “better” life and believed his lies. There’s a group of apolitical voters out there, they don’t have much of an affiliation and just vote with their wallet. And yes, we tried to tell them beforehand, they didn’t listen.
Like as a public facing person, how do you go about the world spouting nonsense without even the slightest inclination that maybe you should fact check first
I’m 61 and on my 44th year of ATC. Yes the FAA has the 56 age rule. Contract towers do not. Contract towers are staffed with retired FAA and military controllers and those who quit either FAA/military before retirement. We all must still pass yearly physicals, which are more stringent than pilots/1
2/There are ~265 FCTs in the US. The law would have to change for the FAA to keep ATCs past 56. ATC’s were NOT fired by DOGE. It does take 2-4 years of training at each FAA facility, so in reality, that is a lot of “probationary” employees. DOGE/SpaceX needs to leave the FAA alone. It is safe to fly
Back when that jerk, Reagan, was president he broke the air traffic controllers union. It has been iffy since then. Musk is an arrogant know-it-all and would-be-dictator. I hope the air traffic controllers walk out.
Um, don't we force retirement on them due to age and the stress of the job for, i don't know, SAFETY REASONS?!? But, yes, let's fire people currently doing the job and hire those we've retired. Yup, makes perfect sense.
Musk screwed this up. Why should the retired air traffic controllers come back to work to help him out, not to mention go back to an extremely stressful job.
Well, the point is: He wants to have old, tired WHITE ATCs come out of retirement to replace young, capable PoCs and women. He's just not saying it out loud (yet)
HA HA HA Mister Fire Now Re-hire as soon as it's obvious that it was fu***** stupid to fire professionals. Gosh, I wish I was a drug addict, moronic, billionaire that can dictate terms to congress and the President!
But will we let him drag us along? I don't want to change sides. Ze was brave and strong, and Trump and Vance sounded like kindergartners trying to be bullies.
Erol musk explain to me that they feel they have been oppressed for thousands of years. They are better than the Italian fascist and better than the German Nazis. They moved to South Africa to be part of aparthrid because philosophically they agree with it.
I think they are Nordic Norseman vikings.
The scary thing is there are a lot of people that are OK with this. Like I told a magot once that supported Pukin, I said Pukin is not America's friend, he is doing all this to destroy America and would quickly turn on America once he thinks he no longer needs them.
Yes!
Ive been fighting Pukins mis-information for 11 years!
I was with Bernie BEGGING BEGGING BEGGING begging sanders voters to vote for Hillary, trying to convince them they were subject of russian manipulation. To this day they echo kremlin talking points
ATC are out at 55 because reaction times start to decline. It’s a young persons game. And no, that’s not ageist. I know this because my father was in ATC for 29-years. And he told me this time and time again.
Wouldn't do any good, he never listens to anyone with facts and figures ...
... he runs everything by his feelings of the moment!
Of course, those feelings are usually in line with oligarchy, GREED, racism and other forms of bigotry and self-importance!
Never Empathy or Honesty or Love!
Meanwhile, the FAA is posting Facebook ads recruiting for ATC! The comments are gold, mainly “Why would I want to risk getting fired at any time for no reason?”
The only reason I did not throw in my bitter sarcasm was that FB algorithms would think I want to see more of that hot garbage.
But since I am here, "Join us for the most stressful job on the planet, we might fire you on a whim, but until then you can help stop planes from falling like hail!"
Musk is looking to break a contract with Version so Starlink can take over FAA communications. Clear conflict of interest. As far as security goes, I don't know which system can be disabled more readily. Personally, I trust the land-based system more.
Musk has begun to install in southern NJ.
Musk: "What's this?" Controller: "That's a radar screen." Musk: "What are those green dots moving right there?" Controller: "Those are airplane signatures." Musk: "They sign their names?" Controller:"Could you leave the tower, please?"
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I hope anyone who does come back demands quadruple their salary. I mean... seller's market, right?
No one wants to travel by air with this shit happening….if we all resist air travel because of this shit, the industry won’t have a choice other than to fight this administration
And people aren't jumping at the chance to work for the government? Can't understand why...
Lord America is in absolute danger right now.
https://psychology-spot.com/basic-laws-of-human-stupidity/
But that's just what my brother in law told me from his brief time in training. Turned out not to be for him, went into maintenance.
https://www.whitehouse.gov
Until you have proper staffing, we need less air traffic.
Ground all private jets until it is safe to fly again.
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Asshole
Stupid can't be cured.
Musk is not as intelligent as he wants himself to think he is.
Too much of our system is based on assumptions like that.
2. He could form DOGE, (which was prearranged) & gut the…
He is, good at the con game as well as being immoral, corrupt and cruel.
But when we do we will.....say we fixed them right away.
What a clusterfuck of incompetency!
"This next one will kill you."
https://aviationacrossamerica.org/news/2016/12/03/veteran-eye-on-the-skies-oldest-air-traffic-controller-in-world-on-job-at-north-perry-airport/
Fucking idiot.
Also- neither Musk nor Trump are behaving like sane men- why has there not been a medical examination of either’s mental health state?
George, you have apparently forgotten the first rule of being rich -- that automatically means you are smarter than anyone, on any topic.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title5-section8335&num=0&edition=prelim
They are forced to retire at age 56, but exceptional ones can be kept until age 61, if they can continue to pass the required physical.
Probably not anyone who has options.
It didn't work for Twitter and it's not working for the government.
But when we do we will.....say we fixed them right away.
What a clusterfuck of incompetency!
Once the Romans destroyed Greece, there wasn’t another democracy for thousands of years am I wrong?
I think they are Nordic Norseman vikings.
Maybe it could be the fall of fascism or maybe they will rule for 1000 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhquAWlke2o
Ive been fighting Pukins mis-information for 11 years!
I was with Bernie BEGGING BEGGING BEGGING begging sanders voters to vote for Hillary, trying to convince them they were subject of russian manipulation. To this day they echo kremlin talking points
https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/02/02/steele-dossier-trump.pdf
Russia gets Europe
US gets Americas (canada mexico brazil greenland)
Japan gets Asia
Game over.
"very quickly"
... he runs everything by his feelings of the moment!
Of course, those feelings are usually in line with oligarchy, GREED, racism and other forms of bigotry and self-importance!
Never Empathy or Honesty or Love!
FAA has a fucking list that reads like military recruitment brochure.
Less than 10% of all applicants meet these requirements and are accepted into the training program.
No he didn't
But since I am here, "Join us for the most stressful job on the planet, we might fire you on a whim, but until then you can help stop planes from falling like hail!"
Musk has begun to install in southern NJ.