Which is why we sd be supporting Ukraine and not the dictator former KGB agent and that sellout Trump who wants to be just like him. That orange fuhrer is already destroying our country and it’s only been a month, and WTH is up w Musk?
He can be driven out. His efforts have been stymied repeatedly. His economy is crumbling. If anyone knows that you do.
Are you concerned that Trump will cancel all the US sanctions? That he will bolster trade with Russia? Of course he will. The champagne has been flowing in Moscow for three months.
The way to "convince" Putin is how we won last time: a war of economic attrition. The US and Europe have the economies to continue squeezing Russia & help Ukraine militarily.
Well the ONE thing you can do as an "influencer" is to stay on topic and keep your public remarks directly focused on Ukraine's right to sovereignty and protecting THEIR territory. 🤷♀️
Can go for rich country too. America has a long, violent history of using our wealth and military might to take control of resources that are NOT ours to have.
If/when the EU builds up their military to the point where America is irrelevant, it'll crush our "influence" in the world. And I'm all good with that. Our never-ended lust for what other countries have needs to be put in check.
same here. 53 cis het male, always voted dem, and have 100% "had it" with dems
repubs never even on the list
happy to give our "influence" (almost always deadly and destructive spreading democracy) away
we are awful. we are evil. we are violent.
but, we don't hold copyright on that. take it...
Exactly. No one can convince him to leave. You can’t possibly believe Putin or Trump would actually honor any agreement. Ukrainians deserve to keep what’s theirs.
The way to convince Putin to
leave is to keep making the war extremely costly to Russia. The war has been disastrous for Russia, and IMO, it won’t be much longer before Putin is either deposed or falls out of a window.
Putin wants Poland and other Baltic states. He’s not stopping. He’s waiting for Trump to give him Ukraine. He will let China take Taiwan and he will let the Saudis who gave kushner 2b last admin Gaza to develop.
Was Hitler convinced?
Was Mussolini convinced?
How about Milosevic?
Maybe the Emperor of Japan?
Oh wait how about Pol Pot?
Wait wasnt Idi Amin convinced?
Hmm Gaddafi?
Wait maybe it was Ferdinand Marcos?
No, no, wasn't it Hissene Habre?
Or maybe Rafael Trujillo?
I got it was it Saddam Hussein?
putin doesn't need to be convinced of anything. When his military is completely destroyed, and Western powers need to stop tying Ukraine's hands behind its back in order for this to happen, it won't be up to him anymore. Because it will be a fact on the ground.
Complete economic isolation and unyielding support for Ukraine. That would convince Putin to leave. Or it would convince oligarchs to make him "leave". Or it would decimate the Russian army.
Now flip that around - Putin gets Ukraine and sanctions are lifted ... what has he learned?
You and your rich bitch buddy could use some of your power. You know damn well you guys have influence and could make a difference if you cared. Fuck you
The question i have is what will be a heavy enough price for Russia to have to pay for them to not invade/annex another country for generations longer than it will take Ukraine to fully recover? If Russia doesn't suffer lasting consequences for this, they will just do it again.
Putin isn't going to willingly look weak.
I don't understand how they don't offer Ukraine NATO membership if he let's Putin keep Crimea.
Ukraine shouldn't have to give any of their land away to Russia, but here we are.
Their country deserves NATO protections.
And Putin needs to be put on blast.
Putin will never leave willingly. That would show weakness. Unless… Trump promised him power in the United States. I still believe Trump thinks Putin, Kim Jong Un and himself will rule the world. And will do anything to get there.
I hope I’m wrong.
Handing resources from Ukraine to a third country, especially not to the current US regime, sure as hell isn’t going to convince putin to do anything differently.
With allies like Mark who needs enemies? If someone was bombing and stealing one of your estates would you give away resources hoping the sociopaths would the deal or would you fight for your RIGHTFUL home?
He had always been this.
He is here to take over BlueSky and to promote his business.
Billionaires aren’t our friends.
We are peasants best case for him.
Look at his philantrocapitalism.
All he does is avoid paying taxes to funnel money into himself.
wtf is this?
ya it was pretty clear when he saw other of his billionaire buddies thriving
he felt lost and left out
shows up here bragging about Bsky's # s (hit 32mn today, but he's too focused on rare earth theft)
musk is nothing w/o his incels
cuban is nothing w/o his gullible libs
I’m dead serious. He wants to buy BlueSky.
He doesn’t care. All he does is talk like he’s friends with us, to talk us “off the ledge”. A despicable putin tool.
I agree; his interest in Bsky is palpable
His desire "to help the common man" is incongruent with billionaire existence--Captns of Industry liked the common man more than these fucks, and CoI HATED the common man
Mark, understand that we do not need you. You need us
Keep on him. I will too. If he blocks me, I’ll open another account.
BlueSky should be free of corporate interests. I’d rather be a subscriber and a stakeholder.
This is all we have. We can’t lose this to another greedy fucker.
Out of our politics.
Also, he’s fat enough to eat.
If you build it near Cheyenne Wyoming you will be connected to the huge Denver logistics network, become the state’s 1st or 2nd largest employer, and set the foundation for it to become a real city.
You’ll turn the state blue in 10 years or less in the process. You could do this.
No one can convince Putin to do anything. IMO, Europe needs to step up and provide Ukraine with the resources necessary to drive the Russians back. Trump will never do that even with f it’s better for the world.
Actually, and I know this would be extremely risky, but I think a joint Finland, Sweden, Poland, Georgia, Ukraine operation could take Moscow in about a week. Maybe a little more. He is so weak right now. Ukraine has put the hurt on Russia. Depose that lump of crap and leave Trump on an island.
I hate putins guts. Having said that, sometimes I’m horrified to think about what might happen to more human beings. His people didn’t want this any more than Ukrainian people did. We are all just fucking human beings, with the same needs/wants/desires, suffering at the hands of a few evildoers.
The best way to deal with Russia without a nuclear war would be to do something like the Ukraine-in-Kursk formula: Invade a small part of Russia close to the border, let them try to expel you, until there's virtually none left standing, and just let the Russian society collapse on its own.
See, this is the type of intelligence that I know is out there. People who know the countryside and probably bounce back and forth over the border undetected often.
So does China, France, India, Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, United Kingdom, and the United States, none of whom are afraid to use them or they wouldn't have them. Your point is mute.
Why would you say they aren’t afraid to use them? At most it’s a deterrent from use. Which of those countries are aligned to the United States and which to Russia?
My whole point on the original post when people were discussing countries joining Ukraine in fighting Russia was Pandora’s box will be opened. We can argue for hours on will or will not a certain country use nuclear weapons that’s similar to the schrodinger's cat
experiment.
LOL. They have created so many red lines that they said would result in nuclear war if crossed. All of them have been crossed. They are paper tigers. NATO could take them out in a week.
Any Nuc attack in Ukraine will also impact Russia. Either way, is a flip. DEI was a racist call- look who’s suffering now. Life is a field of bullies like Putin - they never cease to reincarnate.
OK, but has Putin thought about how the jet stream works yet? If he bombs Ukraine with nukes then it just heads right into Russia. End of. Can't manipulate the jet stream yet can they?
You’re absolutely right—nuclear fallout doesn’t respect borders. If Putin were to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the jet stream and prevailing winds would carry radioactive material back into Russia, as well as into Europe and beyond.
Well thank god someone else thought about this, I've been thinking about it for ages and wondered why no one ever mentions this fact. Thanks for making me feel more sane. LOL
Because Putin is not suicidal he will not go nuclear. And he uses the threat of nuclear to try and make everyone to back off. My comment based on the analyses by several experts.
My only problem with calling the bluff, is that means then America under Trump becomes the sole nuclear power. Except maybe China, not sure what their build up has been.
It’s a fair assessment. When you look at any of the video of the fighting, Russia is still using World War II equipment, i.e. tanks, armored vehicles, etc.. I don’t think any of their shit is up-to-date.
I agree. I think they are outdated and untrained. Plus, they don't have anything worth fighting for. It isn't like Germans are trying to attack their border when they made their stand in Stalingrad. They are being told to attack the Ukrainians and I don't think they really want to.
While a routine test demonstration is heartening, these are nuclear weapons we're talking about here. Even a 90% dud rate would result in unimaginable levels of devastation.
Russia has so far not dropped a bomb… they’re afraid to use them. Now maybe in desperation they might, but if you have a weapon that can end it and you’re not using it, you’re afraid of repercussions.
His decimated generations of his own population to this war. The only reason he’s able to sustain this war is due to oil he sells the Europeans. He could say to an extent Europeans brought upon themselves when they bought into the green energy and got away with their coal fired and nuclear plants.
Well, the way back machine isn't working and I don't think we should leave Ukraine to pay for the follies of the past. I think Europe should stand up to Russia once and for all. Especially while they are weak. Then we can all go renewable. Like America should have done after Carter.
Of course they are. An exchange would cripple the West, but totally erased Russia. Nothing left, and Putin knows this. The enemy in the hospital, but your team is dead. Gone.
Use of nukes is Russian suicide, so it won't happen.
Russia has the largest number of nuclear warheads in the world scattered throughout the world. About 800 land based, 600 on submarines and about 200 at heavy bomber bases.
Russia will still be standing. Britain and France in rubble with real climate change killing populations worldwide. Not good
I think there are tons of people within the Putin regime who might have an interest in making sure those nukes aren't ever launched. That the final solution, such as it would be, is never reached. I think those nations have intelligence services. 👍
So all I mean by that, is there will be generals, or servants, or attaches that will be around Putin, and just maybe they aren't ready for Armageddon on behalf of the ACTUAL Richest man in the world. Yes Putin.
Also, I want to remind you of some differences between having a nation like America versus a nation like Russia. In America we all feel like we have a piece, we have a vested interest in keeping America free. They have zero understanding of that feeling. It's Putin's world, they live in it.
China tolerates him, but they don't admire weakness and they know he is weak. They have a long history of being allies simply because of their communist ties that no longer exist. I think the EU could entice China away from Russia if they decided to dump the US as their favored trading partner.
I disagree with attacking Russia. I agree with restoring Ukraine’s sovereignty. Attacks in Russia should only go in so far as to weaken their military machine or troop movements. Russians have to determine their own destiny.
100% they are having to build equipment and actually let some Russians age into service. They have used mercenaries from India and North Korea. They had an exodus of military aged men and their families once Ukraine stalled out the initial Russian invasion. Smart people.
Throw in UK, Australia, Japan and Canada and tell Trump and Putin to shove it. The “rules” that prevent Europe from countering the aggression are gone. Trump and Putin have flipped the board and burned the rule book.
The reason Putin doesn't want free nations on his border is because he knows his form of repressive oligarchy, which is only slightly better than the oppressive Communism, would never stand up to freedom and liberties of a free nation, presiding next door. The story is as clear as E and W Germany.
Russia and now the USA need to be liberated
The people of Palestine, Syria, Haiti, and how many African nations
We should not allow people to be oppressed
Think what you will. I see some determined people in that part of the world, hungry for their own freedoms and liberty, even with all the warts. Ukraine is doing the most American thing since the Revolutionary War and they should be supported.
Europe needs to get ukraine the weapons to start hitting Russian civilians. Hitting civilians is how you defeat an invader. When Hitler wouldn't move, we fire bombed the german people until they wouldn't/couldn't support the war machine. They will turn on him and kill him for us.
Agreed,the 🍊🤡 is never gonna convince Pudding of anything.He's been compromised since the word go,taking his word over US intelligence agencies at each turn.He can barely stand up on his own,so anybody that thinks he'll stand up to Pudding hasn't been watching these two 🤡🤡 whenever they're together.
A point that is made less often in these more trying times, but one that remains true: the problem with Russia isn't Putin. It's Russians. He's one head on a hydra.
Two things were stunning about your last post; that you put you 'LOVE' anything that Trump is doing now after he's embraced the murderous Putin and thrown Ukrainians under the bus, and that you think Putrid can be negotiated with at all. He's a thug. He's a liar. And he's a sociopath.
Love it Mark- “let’s just give up and let everyone die … maybe I can make money”. Instant loss of any respect ever afforded to you. When people are being mugged do you view it as the best chance to steal their shoes?
Billionaires be billionairing.
He doesn’t understand regular people.
These people are only looking for angle to enrich themselves further.
Why is he here?
He wants BlueSky.
He not like us.
Billionaires aren’t our friends.
My grandmother left her home in Karelia not once but twice she would cry. The land was Finland’s prime agricultural area. Once USSR fell and we were able to go back, everything looked as we left it. Fields fallow
My Aunt in Estonia we knew was there, but never met her. She was stuck with the “russian pigs” as she called them because they took family members all sources of food production. Russia for some reason never left the stone ages.
You can not negotiate with fascist dictators
A serial killer is put to death in America
Putin deserves the same
The republicans enabling trump are stirring world issues to the surface. The people will fight back in a way that is not good for anyone. Extortion is not an answer
What?? So are you saying that zelensky benefits from the putin trump alliance?? @mcuban.bsky.social that can't be what you're saying right?? I'm misunderstanding the point? Someone explain. What am i missing?
What use would America troops be in Ukraine? American troops are monolingual and often their English is poor. Ukrainians are fluent in several languages because it is taught in schools at all levels. Ukrainian Forces are resilient and adapt their warfare. Russian- no command discipline or smarts.
Ukraine is admitted into the EU.
Ukraine becomes a member of NATO. It seems you are a bit tone deaf and uninformed. Your opinion of Ukraine is rather low. Here is a bit of help.
Putin's focus has always been on restoring Novirissya to homeland Russia. He will be happy with taking the Eastern Oblasts and having NATO fuck off. Just split Ukraine into two pieces separated by the Dniper river and be done with it. Trump will help Russia establish a different Ukrainian president.
No need to ask Putin to leave. When Putin dies Russia will leave. Just need to make him weak so that his death by his own people is sooner rather than later. The strategy is to arm Ukraine and help them defend. Maybe use some old school CIA tactics destabilize Russia.
Didn’t we take the nukes away from Ukraine in exchange for an agreement to protect them? Give them back the nukes. You can’t negotiate with Putin. He’s a bully who only understands force.
Mark, I gave an idea on what you could do . You're a man of immense wealth and influence. We have to counter the Lies and Misinformation. Want to help? Start running daily briefings on your own network. Get your wealthy friends together and fight back the tactics of a tyrant. Run it 24/7.
He's attacked all of our national protections,he questions birthright citizenship of American minorities,this is his retribution tour. Putin is weak. An allied invasion maybe what it takes to end this war and send Putin into retirement.
Trump outright gdam lied about Ukraine starting this war? Are you kidding me? He uses kremlin talking points. Are you not paying attention to what he is doing to our national safety nets? He wants us dumb,sick,and dead. Work till 70 and drop dead. Is that fair Mark? Wakeup Dude!!!!!
He's a dictator. He won't simply leave. However, he WAS dealing with economic and military repercussions. This "deal" gives Russia the ability to save face and makes Trump look like a "negotiator".
Best for Ukraine is he gets into bed with China and Trump leaves NATO - EU forms its own reserve currency - removing US dominance in the world - Trump happy as US is finally all on its own. One problem with this is Musk knows it and that’s why he’s sucking up to anything far right in EU and UK
Mike Walz, NSA needs to remember his/our modo. Be a warrior, not a coward. Otherwise he can turn in his tab. Send us in, negotiate a partnership, and hold LEGIT elections so Ukraine can get ALL of its sovereign land back. Not going to happen though with Biff Tannen as POTUS. ✌️
It is indeed complicated and yet I feel absolutely certain that the answer does not involve the United States siding with the Russian invaders and against literally every other member of NATO and extorting a war-ravaged people in order to steal their resources.
How about death by firing squad? I'd also be ok with him being shoved out a window or poisoned with polonium-210. No convincing required and no time like the present. 🤷
Air superiority for Ukraine 300 km N and E of the 2014 border. All the 155 ammo they can use. Mysterious oopsies with Russia's icebreaker fleet. This isn't actually much of a problem, it just takes fuel, appropriations, and kicking the trash out of management at Boeing et al.
You kill them. Every single one of them if you have to. You let Ukrainians strike russian civilians if need be. Same way we got Hitler to retreat. You make Russians lives unbearable until they kill everyone in their govt.
Do u think caving to Putin (Trump) is going to "make" him leave? More likely will ensure Ukraine is never free again. We have no right to tell another sovereign nation what they should do. Ukraine will do what is right for them. Maybe worry about fixing the invasion happening in the US.
how: bomb those assholes back to the stoneage
when: thats what we're all screaming about the last two years. the left (in particular Biden) have tried to boil the frog and wound up looking the fool.
Overwhelming ability to strike at critical targets is the answer.
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Mark, you really are picking thee wrong horse in this.
Are you concerned that Trump will cancel all the US sanctions? That he will bolster trade with Russia? Of course he will. The champagne has been flowing in Moscow for three months.
rich man then shed any morality for need to satisfy salivating more wealth
rich man has less chance of entering heaven than camel entering eye of needle because rich man always salivate more wealth
rich man paralyzed
Can go for rich country too. America has a long, violent history of using our wealth and military might to take control of resources that are NOT ours to have.
repubs never even on the list
happy to give our "influence" (almost always deadly and destructive spreading democracy) away
we are awful. we are evil. we are violent.
but, we don't hold copyright on that. take it...
leave is to keep making the war extremely costly to Russia. The war has been disastrous for Russia, and IMO, it won’t be much longer before Putin is either deposed or falls out of a window.
Bookmark it Mark!
Was Mussolini convinced?
How about Milosevic?
Maybe the Emperor of Japan?
Oh wait how about Pol Pot?
Wait wasnt Idi Amin convinced?
Hmm Gaddafi?
Wait maybe it was Ferdinand Marcos?
No, no, wasn't it Hissene Habre?
Or maybe Rafael Trujillo?
I got it was it Saddam Hussein?
Now flip that around - Putin gets Ukraine and sanctions are lifted ... what has he learned?
I don't understand how they don't offer Ukraine NATO membership if he let's Putin keep Crimea.
Ukraine shouldn't have to give any of their land away to Russia, but here we are.
Their country deserves NATO protections.
And Putin needs to be put on blast.
I hope I’m wrong.
if you were my child, i'd pat you on the head and say "oh aren't your precious young thing"
totally burned it to the ground in one afternoon
He is here to take over BlueSky and to promote his business.
Billionaires aren’t our friends.
We are peasants best case for him.
Look at his philantrocapitalism.
All he does is avoid paying taxes to funnel money into himself.
wtf is this?
https://www.fallenpatriotfund.org/
he felt lost and left out
shows up here bragging about Bsky's # s (hit 32mn today, but he's too focused on rare earth theft)
musk is nothing w/o his incels
cuban is nothing w/o his gullible libs
He doesn’t care. All he does is talk like he’s friends with us, to talk us “off the ledge”. A despicable putin tool.
His desire "to help the common man" is incongruent with billionaire existence--Captns of Industry liked the common man more than these fucks, and CoI HATED the common man
Mark, understand that we do not need you. You need us
Don't lose sight of that, bitch
BlueSky should be free of corporate interests. I’d rather be a subscriber and a stakeholder.
This is all we have. We can’t lose this to another greedy fucker.
Out of our politics.
Also, he’s fat enough to eat.
Get a briefing on the open source intel such as their materiel levels, their casualties, their population pressures.
You personally could open a 155mm plant & shorten the war.
Putin leaves once beaten.
When Ukraine has anything like local artillery parity they gain ground. When they don’t, they lose ground.
Open a 155mm plant, rake in cash, and shorten the war. Literally you can do this and turn a profit.
You’ll turn the state blue in 10 years or less in the process. You could do this.
Send an assistant with a sandwich board.
“Just fired? Fuck Musk.
Mark Cuban needs 1-10 analysis to give him open source intelligence briefing on war in Ukraine.”
Get some of the most qualified people in the world easy.
St Helena is the island the British imprisoned Napoleon on.
He spent years there.
IMHO, sounds like you’re advocating for World War III.
experiment.
With us sole power makes it easier to argue disarmament perhaps.
And US refusal to recognize this is part of why we are where we are.
Use of nukes is Russian suicide, so it won't happen.
Russia will still be standing. Britain and France in rubble with real climate change killing populations worldwide. Not good
Russia may be weakened but Putin will burn his country to ground before he backs down.
He is using North Koreans in Ukraine and has strong ties with China.
And not extort her people who have been dieting on our behalf
Let’s liberate the russian territories
The people of Palestine, Syria, Haiti, and how many African nations
We should not allow people to be oppressed
There needs to be a gluttony claw back
But I like your thinking.
With one foot in the grave already. Maybe he's ready to burn it all down. You want to find out?
Let Ukraine into NATO. Boost your spending. Let them into the EU. Move this country to the west.
Or give them nukes…
He doesn’t understand regular people.
These people are only looking for angle to enrich themselves further.
Why is he here?
He wants BlueSky.
He not like us.
Billionaires aren’t our friends.
today might help
You can not negotiate with fascist dictators
Putin deserves the same
The republicans enabling trump are stirring world issues to the surface. The people will fight back in a way that is not good for anyone. Extortion is not an answer
He looks fat.
Eat the rich.
I hear that eating the rich.
Won’t make you fat.
Just a billionaire concerned with the benefit of the people.
That’s why you sitting on your billions.
Ukraine becomes a member of NATO. It seems you are a bit tone deaf and uninformed. Your opinion of Ukraine is rather low. Here is a bit of help.
You are truly a principle-free piece of work.
He does no one in the world any good; he's destroying the potential of the entire world, to have peace and civilization over the next few decades;
a giant NO from the US backed by NATO
ANd you sure as hell don't desert your allies to go to the side of the bully.. so now both US and Russia need a smackdown from the entire world.
It's gonna happen.
It has to start somewhere, it has to start sometime
What better place than here, what better time than now?
SLAVA UKRAINE! 🇺🇦
I suppose that's where we disagree.
1. Give Zelinsky cruise missiles and permission to hit infrastructure in the interior of Russia.
2.Wait for the Russians to unseat Putin in a coup, as almost happened with Prigozhin.
how: bomb those assholes back to the stoneage
when: thats what we're all screaming about the last two years. the left (in particular Biden) have tried to boil the frog and wound up looking the fool.
Overwhelming ability to strike at critical targets is the answer.