(1,2) This is Jaime. She was funny and fun & made everyone laugh. Unfortunately, the laughter stopped 7 years ago today in the Parkland shooting. Because of what happened to Jaime, my family started Orange Ribbons for Jaime doing great work orange-ribbons-for-jaime.myshopify.com/collections/... - ThreadSky

fredguttenberg.bsky.social • 8 days ago

(1,2) This is Jaime. She was funny and fun & made everyone laugh. Unfortunately, the laughter stopped 7 years ago today in the Parkland shooting. Because of what happened to Jaime, my family started Orange Ribbons for Jaime doing great work
https://orange-ribbons-for-jaime.myshopify.com/collections/2025-enter-to-win

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fredguttenberg.bsky.social•8 days ago

(2,2) to support families affected by gun violence. For the next week, we are holding our online fundraiser with trips and shopping opportunities. You donate simply by buying a tickets at the link above and hopefully also win one of these prizes. Thank you for helping us to honor Jaime's memory.

wenz66.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡🦋

guyb12.bsky.social•7 days ago

Sorry for your loss. It shouldn't have happened.

kbrough18.bsky.social•8 days ago

You’ve let us know Jaime through your posts and I can only imagine how proud she’d be how you’ve carried on her legacy through all your work. You are such a devoted dad. Your loss is unimaginable and my heart goes out to you and your family.

cjmmusic1.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thank you, Fred!
Sending☮️❤️🐾🎶💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

cjmmusic1.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thank you, Fred!!
I’m so sorry!❤️☮️❤️💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

jack1973.bsky.social•8 days ago

✔️

bakingmom14.bsky.social•8 days ago

Much love to you & your family today

susanteresa.bsky.social•7 days ago

🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

mewmcb.bsky.social•4 days ago

Thank you for all your hard work!❤️

mglite.bsky.social•8 days ago

Her love and your love for her continues to help so many. Thank you for sharing her love with all of us. I know she is so proud of all you have done. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

jeanneleduc.bsky.social•8 days ago

Done.
I'm so very sorry for your family's devastating loss of Jamie ❤️‍🩹🫂

illluminati.bsky.social•8 days ago

🙏🏼 Such a worthy cause! Just bought my tickets. Let's support families impacted by gun violence & honor Jaime's memory.

lino.io•8 days ago

Fred, I've been following your work for quite some time now, but never expressed my condolences, as my Twitter Account was protected. Thank you for channeling your grief.

lucky7deb.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

ckritter.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

realmajorpita.bsky.social•8 days ago

Love to you, Jamie and your family.

notgoinback.bsky.social•8 days ago

Oh how my heart breaks for you. She seems terrific and so do you.

mamared2.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔💔

pitbull59.bsky.social•8 days ago

lovelessc31.bsky.social•8 days ago

A student at my former HS was arrested after another student called the SANDY HOOK TIP LINE. FBI was contacted and the local sheriff made the arrest. Student had framed pictures and collages of mass shooters she idolized. She had ammo, an ar15, and bullet proof gear. Your work has saved lives today.

lovelessc31.bsky.social•8 days ago

And the work of many others too.

bkfl.bsky.social•7 days ago

God bless you Fred.

witchybitchy2112.bsky.social•8 days ago

I’m so sorry.
I’d be absolutely crushed if I lost my daughter.
It’s a blessing you made it.
I’m not sure if I would.

daniamcc.bsky.social•7 days ago

The GOP/NRA are killing us.

kikiallalong.bsky.social•8 days ago

I will never fucking understand.

How does anyone even remotely look at a child and be like, my gun is worth more than you??

How does anyone look at people and think that AND THEN MAKE IT TRUE??

randompersonfire.bsky.social•8 days ago

A mix of selfishness, hypocrisy (clearly they're not pro-life), and lobbying from the NRA death cult. (the latter is a great reason why politicians should have to dress like racing drivers.)

katarina-rostova.bsky.social•8 days ago

They skip the "thinking" part all together.

briesies89.bsky.social•8 days ago

Love you, Fred. Jaime will always be part of my heart. 🧡

cindawggg.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thank you Fred for all you do in Jaimie’s name. 💜

joannewolff.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

raul429.bsky.social•8 days ago

🙏💔

tipibetty.bsky.social•7 days ago

This makes me cry

tellmejeff.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sorry for your loss. I am over the apathy that some people have for these tragic events.

aarroyo.bsky.social•8 days ago

My heart goes out to you, sir.

rpierson383.bsky.social•7 days ago

Thank you

gloriaprosperi.bsky.social•8 days ago

🙏❤️🙏

worstmom.bsky.social•8 days ago

What a sweet girl!

laliromano.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thinking of you, your family and everyone affected on this day 7 years ago 🧡

ozzieski.bsky.social•8 days ago

So very sorry.💔

jenncutt.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡🧡🧡

thewelshtaffy24.bsky.social•8 days ago

❤️ 💙

jeanmiccio.bsky.social•8 days ago

So so sorry for your loss!

mspeggy.bsky.social•8 days ago

I am so sorry. My only child was a victim of gun violence 28 yrs ago and My heart is still broken. As a parent I know your pain. xo God Bless.

dfly1.bsky.social•8 days ago

Now they are making guns abundant again!

mothergoosedeb.bsky.social•8 days ago

Why are common sense laws for guns so horrible? Can we ban assault weapons and just put the same restrictions on guns that we have on driving cars!?

cayoyay.bsky.social•8 days ago

@fredguttenberg.bsky.social every Valentines I think about your family and the family of all of those who lost their kids that day 💔

bensterboy.bsky.social•8 days ago

I’m so sorry for your loss. I can’t even imagine. Peace to you.

thobgubnol.bsky.social•8 days ago

My condolences on your loss.

angeleyes4914.bsky.social•8 days ago

Im so sorry 😞 my heart goes out to you and your family today. May she continue to RIP and dance amongst the clouds and stars 🧡

ammaw.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thank you for your work to end gun violence. Jaime’s story is shared by too many families who have lost their loved ones to this public health crisis. We can never know the potential her life could have had, but we can imagine the difference her life would have made in the world. Love and blessings.

mmckay7.bsky.social•8 days ago

You’re the best dad that ever wa. Jaime is alive in millions of hearts because of you. 💙

goneplaid.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡this photo and the smile🧡
The flags were at half-staff at our high school today. #NeverForget

santa-guy.bsky.social•8 days ago

😢

hdill.bsky.social•8 days ago

🙏❤️

cirrus18.bsky.social•7 days ago

I can’t imagine your pain. But I so admire how you turned that pain into positive action. Jaime will never be forgotten because of her dedicated dad. I’m so sorry for your unimaginable loss.

shosho63.bsky.social•8 days ago

I will never forget her or any of those kids until the day I die. They believe we forget. Many of us don't.

teeebone.bsky.social•8 days ago

😰🙏🏽♥️

nancydontplay.bsky.social•8 days ago

😭

keithhancock.bsky.social•8 days ago

💙😭🦋💙 I have no words. My heart breaks for parents who lose a child. All I can do is send my love from Thailand.

daisygirl.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thinking of you and your family.💔

gdetorre.bsky.social•8 days ago

A touching and meaningful remembrance of your sweet valentine

montefalco890.bsky.social•7 days ago

I’m sorry for your loss but am grateful for your work to prevent others from experiencing similar tragedies

leenir.bsky.social•7 days ago

I'm so sorry for your loss🧡

alexstrachan.bsky.social•8 days ago

God damn ... my heart, aches. Sharing.

marcosmontreal.bsky.social•8 days ago

You are always on my thoughts! ❤️

annedf.bsky.social•8 days ago

This is such a horrible loss for the world. Who knows what she may have done? What lives could she have touched and made a difference for in the future? Her family will remember how brilliant she was forever but, the future is stolen by a gun. My family mourns with yours. I am so very sorry.

feliciaconsuelo.bsky.social•8 days ago

I immediately thought of your family and all the families affected by this day when I woke up this morning. Unspeakable tragedy. I am so sorry, Mr. Guttenberg.

mamajamapants.bsky.social•8 days ago

Your daughter was resplendent. This picture made me smile and laugh. Her memory truly is a blessing. I wish she was here, Fred. For you and your family, and for all of us.

lettergirl2020.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sending you and your family love and comfort on this awful anniversary day, and sending thanks for all you've done to try and save others' kids.

wutthewut.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡🧡🧡

auntiedeb2024.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thank you for sharing your precious girl with us. We all love her, too.
May all those precious souls memories be a blessing. Always in our hearts...

tbpmom.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡💔💔🧡

audreyjanyce.bsky.social•5 days ago

You’re so brave - wishing you success.

jenf25forequality.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

susieq613.bsky.social•8 days ago

I remember that day. My friend’s daughter was in the building, but she made it out. I wish they all could have. Thinking of Jaime and all those who lost their lives tragically that day and those who live with the trauma that forever changed their life. Love and healing to all.

roadtaken2.bsky.social•8 days ago

She’s the first person I thought of this morning. My heart will always be breaking for Jaime and your family.

debmacc.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sending lots of love to you and your family Fred. I know how very very hard this day is. I wish with all my heart your beautiful girl Jaime was here with you still. She would be as proud of you as you are of her. Take care. X

park-meister.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sorry for your loss and condolences to friends and family.

latviangirl.bsky.social•8 days ago

She must have been the most awesome kid! I think her family is amazing too. We have your back.

dianaporter.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

fceeviper.bsky.social•7 days ago

May she rest in peace. I'm so sorry for your loss.

This should have never happened, if there is anyone to blame it's the GOP.

brentdemento.bsky.social•8 days ago

May her memory, be a blessing!

lindapal.bsky.social•4 days ago

What a beautiful daughter ❤️

gordonshumway66.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔🙏

chgoguy.bsky.social•8 days ago

❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏

gisurgeon256.bsky.social•8 days ago

I live in a country without gun violence. We cannot comprehend why Guns more important children’s lives. I cannot imagine losing a child.

bluespec75.bsky.social•7 days ago

So sorry for your loss. 🧡🧡🧡

kkmarolda.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thinking of you dear Fred. ❤️

hlkenney.bsky.social•8 days ago

I am so sorry for the loss of your child. Unimaginable. 🧡

hummerg.bsky.social•8 days ago

❤️

heatley19.bsky.social•8 days ago

Much love to you and your family Fred from Canada! 🇨🇦💕

hivibebadbitch.bsky.social•8 days ago

💗💗💗💗 I needed this reminder. Thank you

pbrpgal.bsky.social•8 days ago

I am so very sorry for your most profound loss of your beloved Jaime. There are no words to assuage the grief and pain that you must feel every single day. But please know that all you have done to honor Jaime’s beautiful spirit will keep her light shining bright and her memory alive forever. 💔

justinyselonia.bsky.social•8 days ago

Tight hugs and love to you and yours, Fred.🧡🎗️

howarthm.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thoughts with you and family on this day 🪷 🦋 🪷

kittykbar.bsky.social•7 days ago

❤️

catbnymble.bsky.social•8 days ago

Jaime lives on through you. She must have been a wonderful girl. She comes from a wonderful family.

sickofstupid.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sending you love today

emmapeel1959.bsky.social•8 days ago

We will never stop grieving with you.

knewsy.bsky.social•8 days ago

She sure looks like she enjoyed life. I’m so sorry you have to carry this grief. Your work to see that no other parent has to suffer this loss is admirable but must be difficult. Wishing you peace as you think of the joyful memories

venus8000.bsky.social•8 days ago

💖✨ A picture is worth a thousand words! She seemed so full of life! 🙏

bluedotatbluesky.bsky.social•8 days ago

🤗💝

mandertang.bsky.social•8 days ago

My dancer, just getting ready to start the competition season 7yrs ago today, her team put orange ribbons on for Jaime. Today- even as an adult, we wear orange today for Jaime. We fight along with you and won’t stop until movement is made and our kids are safe. 🧡🧡🧡

hkvoyage.bsky.social•8 days ago

Never forgotten. 💔

t-rosie.bsky.social•8 days ago

❤️

oldbutgold1.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔💔

jennydogmom.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

authorlena.bsky.social•8 days ago

Keep up the good fight Fred.

christianmalmgren.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

sitesafetynet.bsky.social•8 days ago

"Thanks for sharing this!" https://www.protectingourstudents.org/donate-new/

ninibonbon.bsky.social•8 days ago

My heart breaks for you. 💔
I too have lost a child to gun violence. Jaime was a truly exceptional human being, and I’m sure you miss her deeply.

bhandel58.bsky.social•8 days ago

❤️

ddecember1957.bsky.social•8 days ago

I’m so sorry our congressman and women have failed you. 💔

bewareofthephog.bsky.social•7 days ago

🧡🧡🧡

tuneraider.bsky.social•8 days ago

OMG, that was a shock, I was still smiling at the image as I took the words in. What a devastating loss for her & you & everyone.

I’m a parent and understand the hole it must have torn in your lives. My heart goes out to you ❤️

I’ll go buy some ribbons ,
I hope it helps ..

standswithhope.bsky.social•8 days ago

Me too! Sent a chill through me, then then stinging of tears.

maggiemarie.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thinking of you and your family today Fred. ❤️

uncleroost.bsky.social•8 days ago

The other thing that hurts so much about these sorts of killing events, is that is the far right talkshow host like Alex Jones will use that for their own terrible selfish discussions to turn right wing listeners into further US enemies of the state.

The Oklahoma City bombing for example.

uncleroost.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sad sad sad I can’t even imagine pain of the parents at these repeated events.
Republicans talk about “freedom”, but they want only their freedom.

They will remove every one of ours that they don’t agree with.

Meanwhile tragedy, with no attempt to even speak about a cure.

mamick.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡

crazycanuck2.bsky.social•8 days ago

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💔😢

skeveryday.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thinking of you today, Fred. ❤️

cjharry.bsky.social•8 days ago

🙏💔🧡

xtrahope1515.bsky.social•8 days ago

Never forget. RIP

💔💔

570karen.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡🧡🧡🧡

claudine7.bsky.social•8 days ago

RIP Jaime, did you know that your name in French means I love. You carry that name perfectly. Love you Fred 🙏❤️🇨🇦

kristinajensen.bsky.social•8 days ago

I admire your courage

guyonabike.bsky.social•8 days ago

So sorry for you and your family's loss, she would've gone on to do great things I'm sure if her life wasn't cut short by a weapon of war.

katiespn411.bsky.social•7 days ago

My heart goes out to you💔

theharshtruth.bsky.social•8 days ago

The shootings in this country are happening in the wrong buildings.

trvlinjunkie.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thinking of Jaime, the other kids and all of your families today. I live down here 💔

momspersistence.bsky.social•8 days ago

My heart still breaks for you Fred...thank you for speaking out!

gnomeledy2.bsky.social•8 days ago

I'm thinking of your family and all the other Parkland families today. Take care, Fred.

kristinemarie67.bsky.social•8 days ago

Much love to you and your family. Thank you for your brave voice!

alemap-sc.bsky.social•8 days ago

Lest we not forget.

lady-dem.bsky.social•8 days ago

So very sorry Fred 😥. I know she will forever be in your ❤️. Blessings to you on this day.

kmurphy63.bsky.social•7 days ago

This gutted me. Long live her memory.

rainkitty.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔💔💔

revjoey.bsky.social•8 days ago

I have no words, Fred. Sending Love.

jonathanmlewis.bsky.social•8 days ago

Heartbreaking.

edithmc.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

jlivc927.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡🧡🧡

sistersisyphus.bsky.social•8 days ago

I’m so sorry Fred for your unfathomable loss. Our nation lost a bright and beautiful spirit on this day.

kspi.bsky.social•8 days ago

There are no words!

lindarn.bsky.social•8 days ago

My heart still aches for you…

hekele.bsky.social•8 days ago

🥲

mnasca.bsky.social•8 days ago

I'm so sorry this day of love offers such pain for you and your family.

maggielue.bsky.social•8 days ago

💙

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topmom100.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔💔💔

marydare.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡

gjrboston.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔💔💔

didntcmecumin69.bsky.social•8 days ago

The REPUBLICAN’S will alway’s have children’s blood on their hand’s !!!!!!!!!!! I’m so sorry for your’s and other’s that lost a child. Stop the insanity and Vote Blue and run the REPUBLICAN #'S IN CONGRESS DOWN !!!!!!!

seaslife.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔😔

catlady49ers.bsky.social•8 days ago

♥️🙏♥️🙏♥️🙏♥️🙏

saltyshawn.bsky.social•8 days ago

😞

cantiguin.bsky.social•8 days ago

I am so sorry for your loss and that justice has not come to your family 💞😔💞

taracat.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thank you for sharing Jamie with us, Fred. Her memory is a blessing for all of us and a reminder to continue to do the hard work to end this scourge in our streets and schools.

andreagstylist.bsky.social•8 days ago

May her member be a blessing and bring you strength to fight.

publius64.bsky.social•8 days ago

❤️

nightnursee.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡❤️🧡❤️🧡❤️🧡

abcreative.bsky.social•8 days ago

🧡🧡🧡

gigi133.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thinking of you and your family on this difficult day. I commend you for your hard work for all of us after this tragic episode.

steveglewis11.bsky.social•8 days ago

This isn't over Fred. Someday soon, we're going to stop this and Jaime will know you did everything you could. Sending you LOVE today.

crinsc.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thinking of you and, of course, Jaime today, Fred. May her memory be for a blessing and please know that the work you have done, and continue to do, is the best possible way you can honor her memory and those who also passed that day. Peace, friend.

isazeeem.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sorry isn't fair, it isn't enough, she deserved more. She still does. The idea this country defends guns over children is a dynamic I cannot resolve. Hearts break for your loss.

wendynerd13.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

tinajaro.bsky.social•8 days ago

I’m so so sorry for your loss. Please know there are millions of us who hurt for you. 🙏

diggtruth.bsky.social•8 days ago

So sorry for your loss 💔

sojourn42.bsky.social•8 days ago

from a basket to a casket ... golly thanks NRA for insuring this fine young lady never gets a future ... bastards!

millrn.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔💔💔😭😭😭

darrylricker.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔 Wishing you strength, Mr. Guttenberg.

goldenozaru.bsky.social•8 days ago

Im so sorry. I have a daughter that I love very much and I cant even begin to imagine what you've gone through.

tinamarie1959.bsky.social•8 days ago

I'm so sorry Fred. She looks delightful.

midnocdreary.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔
I’m so sorry for your loss…and ours for never having known her. Thank you for the work you do in her memory.

peggybaker.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sending love your way today ❤️💔

naturesoddities.bsky.social•7 days ago

😪

jlm72.bsky.social•8 days ago

Sending your family love and so much gratitude for all you have to honor Jaime.

wendyweidman.bsky.social•8 days ago

Fred, I am so sorry. I always look forward to your posts and learning about Jaime. You’ve shown us that she was much more than a victim and sometimes that can get lost in such dynamic circumstances.

beckyganzhorn.bsky.social•8 days ago

Followed, for this post & your excellent timeline.

dazels2025.bsky.social•8 days ago

Hugs on this terrible anniversary

nmuggoch.bsky.social•8 days ago

Much love and comfort to you. I can't imagine.....

its-its.bsky.social•8 days ago

All my love to your family, Fred.

jeanneenabottle.bsky.social•8 days ago

Much love to you all.🧡❤️‍🩹🧡

flcope.bsky.social•8 days ago

My thoughts are with you and your family. I will continue to fight for gun sense legislation in memory of Jaime and the others who were killed that horrific day.

sandikelly.bsky.social•8 days ago

💕💕💕 beautiful girl taken much too young 💕💕

baseballet1026.bsky.social•8 days ago

The pain you must feel for such a senseless loss is unimaginable. What you have created is beautiful and she would be so proud of you. Hugs to all who are grieving

imlistening51.bsky.social•8 days ago

When are we goung to get the gun shit under control. I haven't lost anyone to gun violence but I do have a family and want to prevent this from happening in my household. I can't imagine how these parents feel,but I understand.
Come on people don't wait until it happens to you let's prevent it.

standswithhope.bsky.social•8 days ago

If your social circle is filled with hunters, concealed carriers, and firearm enthusiasts, it’s easy to forget that that reality isn’t universal.
The numbers don’t lie: 68% of Americans don’t own guns! 28% of Republican individuals support stricter laws, compared to 86% of Democrats!

meidasguy.bsky.social•8 days ago

Love and hugs today and always. 🫶💕

1reeltruth.bsky.social•8 days ago

My condolences 💐

richardladlof.bsky.social•8 days ago

May her memory always be a blessing.

blondejojo.bsky.social•8 days ago

❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thinking of you and your family today.

endlesscuriosity.bsky.social•8 days ago

So sorry for the loss of your beautiful child. Thank you for channeling unimaginable grief into good works. 💞

marie-14.bsky.social•8 days ago

Was it really 7 years ago! Seems like yesterday. It breaks my heart to remember this shooting, and all school shootings. She must have been amazing! My heartfelt condolences go out to her family and friends. I wish I could end these nightmare shootings.🩷

clairelobel.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

tjcash.bsky.social•7 days ago

You are an inspiration to so many. Thanks for all you do to remind us how precious life is.

anneeliot.bsky.social•8 days ago

WE LOVE BOTH OF YOU!!! THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND SHARING JAIME WITH US.

ccpegatron.bsky.social•8 days ago

We will never forget.

wrennlee.bsky.social•8 days ago

I was teaching at NBPS a few miles from Parkland. I remember the stoplight I was at going home when WAPO sent the news alert out. Our lives were changed. 💔

astro7000.bsky.social•8 days ago

You honor her memory with your work. I'm so sorry you (and the world) lost her. 💔

dave-not-a-bot.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

fema2h.bsky.social•8 days ago

Canada hasn't had alot of these, but we aren't immune. While working on an elementary school addition, I was struck by the separate floor color in the corner of each class. It's an area for the kids to go where a shooter wouldn't be able to see them when looking through the door. My condolences Fred

fema2h.bsky.social•8 days ago

My worry is how everything American eventually makes it's way north, including lots of weapons. Our PM has totally failed to call out Trump on this. My hope is to eventually not have activists being born out of these tragic events, or children having to learn about the dangers of school shooters

jrenu.bsky.social•8 days ago

Why are guns so essential to American people that you would allow children to be killed every year? This is another shooting tragedy.

evergreen-253.bsky.social•8 days ago

Because the toxic males in our country's patriarchy feel children are replaceable. Just like their mothers.

jrenu.bsky.social•8 days ago

They need islam. Heaven is at the feet of our mothers. Not replaceable. Children are precious.

evergreen-253.bsky.social•8 days ago

You're correct. We absolutely need to (re)connect with our Creator. Children are devinely precious. If they were all simply treasured and loved, we'd sure have a beautiful world🤍.

pennylover.bsky.social•8 days ago

💔

anylength66.bsky.social•8 days ago

I think of you every year. 💔

furiousrumpus.bsky.social•8 days ago

What a beautiful young person, and what a beautiful way to honor Jaime. I think about your family every single Valentine's Day, Fred. I think about the many other families that were forever changed that day too.