I dunno, frankly insane that we were bullied into silence about a genocide and I don’t think we should be bullied into silence about the same state actors bombing a new population of civilians and starting a major world war
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You're right. It's not complicated. You weren't bullied into silence. I keep hearing the genocide claims even now.
If anything, people got tired of hearing claims without any evidence or proof.
And yes, it's not complicated. Iran was close to getting a nuclear bomb. Now it's not. It's that simple.
And nobody had a camera phone out to document that horrible war crime. In 2025.
And then you, and your eyeballs were carried by everybody. And everybody clapped to honor how great you are.
"A CNN analysis, audio from the scene and ballistics evidence all point to the Israeli military"
And yet, in their original article about it they state "CNN cannot independently verify who was responsible for the shooting. Israel prevents international media from entering Gaza."
You are as averse to sound argumentation and a factual distillation of reality as any other genocide denying chucklefuck bigot historically to present…
You’re on the same side of history as people who deny the Nazis atrocities or the Armenian genocide, or the Bosnian genocide etc
Iran has been on the verge of getting a nuke since I was born. How convenient that they really decided to hustle now right as Bibi's government was on the verge of collapse.
1. Unless you have reason to doubt the reporting, the reason is that Iran was about to move new centrifuges into an area that will completely bomb-proof. Not even US "bunker busters" could penetrate there.
2. "The IAEA board ruled on Thursday that Iran was in violation of its obligations under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty for its failure to cooperate fully with IAEA inspections and for amassing an estimated 400kg of highly enriched uranium".
Assuming all the things you said are correct, that is still not a valid reason to unilaterally launch an assault on a foreign nation.
Every time Iran had tried to work with us on nukes we've fucked them over, and we keep supporting the people bombing them. They'd be stupid to not bunker up.
Israel is not enforcing some international warrant out on Iran
What Israel (a nuclear power which also proliferated nukes to the South African apartheid regime) is doing is unhinged belligerence and aggression…it is either legitimate nor defensive and will only exacerbate nuclear proliferation
Theres tens of thousands of dead children that seem pretty clear evidence to me. Theres *dozens* of on record statements by Israeli officials that are pretty clear evidence. The fact that you feel as you do has nothing to do with evidence and everything to do with your priors.
My claim is that the ratio of civilians/combatants killed in Gaza in the last two years far exceeds the ratio you're referencing, which is especially bad considering your example was a total war between dozens of belligerents and the other is a military power bullying a militia.
92% of all buildings in Gaza jhave been damaged or destroyed, higher than any city in Germany. The Allies also did not bring in bulldozers to completely eliminate cities as Israel has done. Only 16% of the German population was made homeless, while almost all Gazans are, nvm forced starvation
"772 heavy bombers of the (RAF) and 527 of the (USAAF) dropped more than 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices on the city. The bombing and the resulting firestorm destroyed more than 1,600 acres (6.5 km2) of the city centre. Up to 25,000 people were killed".
If he was right, and it not only applied to his army, but others as well...
Then it's the case of we did it in the past, but you can't do it now. And genocide loses all meaning.
It's no longer what dictators do.
It's now what everybody did in WW2.
If god smiles on you, I suggest you see a therapist.
God is a metaphor, silly billy.
I don't have troubles falling asleep because the tooth fairy didn't invite me to her birthday. Why should I care what your imaginary figment does, or doesn't do to me?
Its really funny that you say the first livestreamed genocide has no evidence or proof, then turn around and fear monger about Iraninan nuclear weapons.
Open your eyes and look at a picture of Gaza in June of 2025. Or the mass starvation campaign currently happening. Or the tens of thousands already murdered. All the hospitals, schools, journalists, food aid workers deliberately targeted to suppress news and medical aid. Fuck yourself freak.
You're basically the equivalent of a Holocaust denier at this point, denying what we can all see and what the racist, fascist government of Israel explicitly states as its goal. Arguably worse, because you're lying to perpetuate an ongoing crime, not just exonerate those responsible for a past one.
I'm not sure. But it's not policy.
The political world is rife with Marjorie Taylor Greenes, and Stephen Millers. They should be taken seriously, but rarely do they have power to act on it.
This season of American Politics is the exception to the rule...
What “word”? Not•what•they•were•doing•when•the•administration•working•to•keep•aid•flowing•&peacetalks•going•was•tanked•by•people•yelling:•genocide•protest•vote
As outlined in both UN reports and independent journalism. Israel has been unwilling to meaningfully engage in peace talks and frequently breaks cease fire agreements. The way they control the flow of aid (linked to political/strat goals). Shows they use famine as a weapon of war
Yes we know. And what was the last administration doing — getting them to let aid in, building a dock to unload aid, working on Egypt, insisting on peace talks and ceasefires. Wasn’t all working, but they were trying to get Israel to do something and they were badgered by critics who supported…
I wonder if when everything around you is burning, you will finally look inward and recognize the depth of the moral vaccum you’ve trapped yourself in.
Unless you have reason to doubt the reporting, the reason is that Iran was about to move new centrifuges into an area that will completely bomb-proof. Not even US "bunker busters" could penetrate there.
Hey not going to address this blood maddened corpse gorger directly but Iran is moving it's centrifuges in to bomb proof shelters because Israel bombs its centrifuges all the fucking time y'all have a good day now.
"The IAEA board ruled on Thursday that Iran was in violation of its obligations under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty for its failure to cooperate fully with IAEA inspections and for amassing an estimated 400kg of highly enriched uranium".
You can be as dismissive and condescending as you want, it's still genocide. If your lack of humanity is what makes a "grown up" then it's not hard to see how we got here. May you never know the horrors you gladly assign to others.
Being an anonymous prick must be how your daddy taught you to be brave; because there is no way you think this is convincing or how tough guy's talk unless someone fucked up your brain years ago.
A bunch of holocaust deniers made a Wikipedia? Well, egg on my face. I guess I shouldn't believe what I've seen with my own eyes either. I'm glad the grownup is here to tell me that 2+2=5
You are such an unbelievable charlatan. Have you looked at Gaza? Its entirely leveled with Israel getting away with bombing hospitals, universities, and camps. How many times does an Israeli sniper need to target a 13-yr old before its an ethnic cleansing to you? Absurd.
• it is in fact a genocide and there are still genocide denying chucklefucks screeching apologia for it at people
• the genocide denial has abated somewhat because it’s harder and harder to maintain the lies when people are watching children blown to bits or burned to death day-in, day-out
Silence never happened so that clearly didn't really work as it's been a salient issue here in the US for so long now. It's more crazy how much of the media is so bought off they don't even bother to try and critique obvious crimes.
I don't think they drug us into anything, I think the heritage foundation through Trump's administration planned Oct 7, the genocide, and these strikes as ways to get trump elected and then help to advance the ultimate desires of eradicating the constitution entirely.
I'm saying that one group is so addicted to capital that they are willing to let anything slide while acting incompetent and the other group is so evil and powerful hungry that they will pull strings behind closed doors in order to advance their agenda of Christian nationalism.
Reagan was only on power due to the heritage foundation, his CIA director who before his admin had met with Iranian officials in Madrid in order to extend the hostage crisis and guarantee his election founded the Manhattan institute, another neolib think tank that works directly with HF.
Both orgs have worked directly with AIPAC for 50+ years. Both orgs have organized every single piece of conservative propaganda you've seen for 50+ years. Both orgs have reported pro-palestinian citizens and officials to AIPAC and the CIA for 50+ years.
Both orgs were heavily involved in both trump campaigns and presidencies. The HF wrote both Reagan's mandate for leadership and project 2025. Trump admitted prior to Oct 7 that he was violating hatch act and speaking w/ Bibi daily.
50+ years of the heritage foundation, Manhattan institute, and AIPAC working directly together on US foreign and domestic policy including military operations, targeting of political activitists domestically and large scale lobbying of our politicians. Theres plenty of verifiable documentation on it
Not influence, partner with. The heritage foundation, AIPAC, the Manhattan institute, and Israel all greatly benefit from a GOP president and a Republican controlled Congress, especially one as insane as Donald Trump.
The last I heard, around 10,000 hostages were still held by the Zionists. They don't really seem interested in returning any of their hostages. Not even in exchange for their own people.
Trump promoted his wish to develop GAZA (saying Israel would give it to him)then held the Zelenski show @ WH then rushed arms to Isreal then they started bombing & blockading aid. You can't develop it if there are GAZANs who want to return.
My mom usually asks for background about international events like this. When she asked why Israel would attack Iran, I had no logical answer to give her.
Bibi does it to re-direct attention from whatever corruption scandal he's currently in the middle of. It's evil and terrifying but that's all there is to it. Bombing Iran is his get out of corruption hearings free card and has been for like twenty years.
Pretty sure the excuse from Israel will be that Iran helped with Oct 7th and has been bombing parts of Israel. Which obviously doesn't make up for the massive overreaction this will inevitably become.
Netyahu isn't logical or sane though so there's that.
1. Iran funds terror across the Middle East.
2. That's it, that's the tweet.
With that said, there's little chance this is a "world war" type event because Iran's a pariah state... until that regime falls and people realize they have OIL OIL in that part of the gulf.
Yes! W should not be silent about the atrocities the Iranian theocratic regime has committed against its own people (with women suffering the most) and through terrorist proxies all over the region. Thank you for reminding us!
I want iran to have nukes because they didnt bomb any country "preemptively" fpr decades.
Israel on the other is Genocidal apartheid state that killed hundreds of thousands of people in the last 2 years. Very very very promblematic. Have to destroyed.
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If anything, people got tired of hearing claims without any evidence or proof.
And yes, it's not complicated. Iran was close to getting a nuclear bomb. Now it's not. It's that simple.
I am a meat popsicle.
Thanks, I guess.
Can you explain what an "and nuke" is? That's the one thing I'm not clear on.
And then you, and your eyeballs were carried by everybody. And everybody clapped to honor how great you are.
Things that did not happen for $100, Alex.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/middleeast/israel-military-gaza-aid-shooting-intl-invs
And yet, in their original article about it they state "CNN cannot independently verify who was responsible for the shooting. Israel prevents international media from entering Gaza."
What changed?
I'm afraid it's not good enough. You can do better.
Try again.
Well, this was very productive, wasn't it?
Did we just solve world peace?
You’re on the same side of history as people who deny the Nazis atrocities or the Armenian genocide, or the Bosnian genocide etc
Did you eat paint chips from the walls when you were little? Maybe lived next to high power lines?
Can you tie your shoes all by yourself, or do you ask a grownup to help you?
Nobody cares.
I appreciate the attempt to be original though. It was a good try. You'll get it next time, Tiger.
1. Unless you have reason to doubt the reporting, the reason is that Iran was about to move new centrifuges into an area that will completely bomb-proof. Not even US "bunker busters" could penetrate there.
The window for action was closing.
Every time Iran had tried to work with us on nukes we've fucked them over, and we keep supporting the people bombing them. They'd be stupid to not bunker up.
What Israel (a nuclear power which also proliferated nukes to the South African apartheid regime) is doing is unhinged belligerence and aggression…it is either legitimate nor defensive and will only exacerbate nuclear proliferation
Is that your claim?
That's 3 days.
Then it's the case of we did it in the past, but you can't do it now. And genocide loses all meaning.
It's no longer what dictators do.
It's now what everybody did in WW2.
War crimes? Yes. Genocide? No.
Israel and its supporters are no less genocidal, no less deluded, no less cruel and racist and ethno-nationalist..than the Germans/nazis were
They are guilty of the same basic evils
Were The Allies in WW2 committing genocide, or not?
Don't change the subject.
State your case.
God is a metaphor, silly billy.
I don't have troubles falling asleep because the tooth fairy didn't invite me to her birthday. Why should I care what your imaginary figment does, or doesn't do to me?
That's the dumbest thing I heard today. How did you managed to misspell reddit, and end up with Bluesky?
No, I actually chose to be here.
Don't worry, I'm willing to bet there is some yahoo out there that is as dumb as you when it comes to web surfing.
Unfortunately, nobody punched me in the throat.
Sorry to disappoint your fantasy of violence.
I'm going to burn an israeli flag and post it for you
Or are you ready to show some proof to support what you've said?
If this is your way of telling me I'm full of shit, I'm sorry, but I just don't care what you think.
Can you imagine my audacity?
To not care enough about you? How dare I?...
Then you'll be glad to help me out by showing the evidence for the so-called genocide, and prove me wrong once and for all.
And then, please explain how is what I'm doing fear mongering? I lost you there.
Oh I'm sorry. That's Dresden.
What were you saying again?
Oh and by the way, why does Israel have nukes? Theyre not even supposed to have them.
I asked for evidence or proof, and you answer with a really tiresome, boring accusation.
No proof, I take it? Not even a little bit of proof?
If you say the sky is green, and I'd ask for proof, you would call me racist and claim you can't see color. Boring and predictable.
What word would you use to describe this
Showboating?
Perversion?
I'm not sure. But it's not policy.
The political world is rife with Marjorie Taylor Greenes, and Stephen Millers. They should be taken seriously, but rarely do they have power to act on it.
This season of American Politics is the exception to the rule...
Give Chris some piece of candy, or a gold star. Nothing on the internet today could possibly top that.
Shakespeare?
Bazooka Joe?
Now you do one.
Unless you have reason to doubt the reporting, the reason is that Iran was about to move new centrifuges into an area that will completely bomb-proof. Not even US "bunker busters" could penetrate there.
The window for action was closing.
"The IAEA board ruled on Thursday that Iran was in violation of its obligations under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty for its failure to cooperate fully with IAEA inspections and for amassing an estimated 400kg of highly enriched uranium".
He're a Wikipedia article about what you refer to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case_against_Israel
Please read it, or find some other credible source to read.
The ICJ is obligated to hear out, and move forward with any accusation. Evidence were never factored by anyone. There was no proceeding.
I don't care what you read. Don't come back here with this weak sauce. Grownups are talking.
I'm beginning to think that's only thing you can write, and according to you it applies to everything.
"It's a lovely weather we're having"
"You are disgusting shit"
"You're wife looks charming today"
"You are disgusting shit"
I'm way ahead of you, genius. That's why I wrote twice that you can read whatever you want to, as long as you get some facts.
Run along, little boy.
What are you running under that dome of yours, then? Cheese-whiz?
Okay.
• the genocide denial has abated somewhat because it’s harder and harder to maintain the lies when people are watching children blown to bits or burned to death day-in, day-out
If it was a fact, you would link to one of many sources of data that clearly state that.
I'm pointing out people like you are full of shit when it comes down to evidence.
You're misusing genocide denial.
It would be, if there was proof, and I was here still denying.
You were very vocal and bullied normal people for this to happen. Congrats! This is on you.
You were anything but silent
If my Mom knew as much as I do about the state of the world, she'd probably kill herself.
Netyahu isn't logical or sane though so there's that.
2. That's it, that's the tweet.
With that said, there's little chance this is a "world war" type event because Iran's a pariah state... until that regime falls and people realize they have OIL OIL in that part of the gulf.
They need to put those proto nukes away. Or we might have to do some mean stuff to make it stop.
Israel on the other is Genocidal apartheid state that killed hundreds of thousands of people in the last 2 years. Very very very promblematic. Have to destroyed.