But you have to describe it in "Hyacinth Bucket" terms.
Any creative Celtic venting about the carry on over there seems to rattle Dem ( and rep) bones for sure ...
It is a truly noble thing we Irish do for you lily-livered milquetoast sheltered N Americans! [Shoutout to our Australian cousins who can give us a run for our money & to Glaswegians as well].
Another thing I have realised is that we also don’t use ‘you’ as much as we normally do. Although it’s unnerving to have to use ‘one’. One sees this a lot saves time listening to a non UK/Irish poster being offended as they consider it accusatory!
The people who are offended, even the humourless tulip I blocked, are people who have never been to Ireland. Anyone who has is quietly chuckling! In school we used to be told, write your essays as if an elderly nun is reading them!
This is spot-on. I almost never say ‘one’ out loud in that context but I’m forever using it to stop some cock-wrangler in Des Moines getting the vapours because they have the main-character-of-life energy of a toddler.
I did notice back in the old days of a moderated Twitter that Aussies seemed to get away with heaps of foul language on line - far more so than other posters.
Great to have special dispensation.
But, Fuck, we r foul mouthed cunts mate.
Maybe you got less reported? I’m probably not the right person to judge as I regularly get days of far right abuse & reporting. Even now, despite the free blue tick, I’m shadow banned. God knows what would happen if I were actually rude! 👀
Where do think we Australians learnt the gentle art? Our Irish settlers, voluntary and otherwise, weren't exactly from the class of Lady Gregory et al.
I remember trying to emphasise something serious by using swear words & it was the only tweet in a thread where none of the likes were from N America. We all tone it down - I suppose it’s like slagging mates - we do it but other nationalities take offence!
I'm 5'2" and I swear like a sailor and since having my child, I have tried my best to control myself with "sugar" and "fudge." Irish have always used language to its fullest extent. We are lovers of language (in all its myriad forms.)
I think I’ve offended lots of Canadians & Americans. I keep having to say you have to have lived here! I love chatting to US visitors & hearing their shock! It’s not quite the donkey & cart they expect!
I used to get a great kick out of watching the newly arrived Americans when I worked in a pub. Their jaws would be on the floor for the first few days until they realised there was no harm or offense intended.
I had to tell one guy to listen to the tone of our voices and conversation. He thought we were constantly fighting when we were just having friendly chats. He finally got it.
It's the same with English people and our tendency to insult people as a sign of affection, but to be icily polite to people we don't like - people coming here for the first time are often very puzzled.
There is an element of that, but the insulting is a blood sport over here! The head of the Irish rugby team greeted the president with ‘howarya ya auld bollix’ - I’d like to see KCIII or Wills cope with that!
My dad’s cousin was a Marine in WWII, I still remember, as a little kid, his amazement at the level of swearing he heard in his Irish travels. His wife was a native Irish speaker. He’d say to my dad ‘& they were even swearing in Gaelic, Mike Joe’. It’s a lot!
This is true, you need to visit Ireland & learn some truly foul language. Two of those are US words & one is English. You need some Irish swear words in your life [in a nice way, of course!]
I think I mentioned a Dutch girl who was accepted by a bunch of my friends, one of whom jokingly called her a ‘sweaty geebag’ for not jumping immediately to get her round. It was meant as acceptance but she retired to the ladies to cry!
Given the outcome of the US election, I think we can agree that most Americans (with notable exceptions, of course), could be described in terms of what we Australians refer to as “apacka cunce”…
I wouldn’t agree. The same might be said of most NW European countries etc. Ireland, so far, is the only Western country not to give the far right any seats in the Dáil [parliament]. Most W voters always vote for their own wallets first.
Yep. I got asked to leave an Irish bar in New York one time, along with my dad and cousins husband, because we were being vulgar*
*having a normal conversation
I hate how YouTube and its ilk apply US norms to international content. Hearing an Aussie stumble over a replacement for a natural swear is just sad to see. And when a “fuckin’” does slip out, I think, ah shit, there goes their monetisation on that video, I suppose.
Clearly you have never been to Ireland. Ask anyone who has 😉 Maybe Americans need to learn to swear! I could be that teacher - but I’d prefer not to be banned from this site!
I lived in London for seventeen years and took my conversational swearing to America. Made them blush. Fer fook's sick is my go-to when I'm trying to be polite. It's like I'm speaking a foreign language.
I'm Australian - Swear away.
As you would most likely know, we have a lot of Irish here in Australia and they have very stiff competition with the Aussies😉
I can’t believe you are arguing about a thread you didn’t read & readily admit it. I ❤️ Australians! The thread says the Australians are like the Irish! Now I must insist you read all my future threads as there will be a test at the end!
As previously communicated to you, I read some and not every word - too long with ADHD. Make the next one shorter and I'll read it all and you can test me at the end😉
How am I arguing? No idea what you're talking about. I didn't interpret anything of what I read by you as being against Australians. I simply said, swear away with Australians and Irish would have stiff competition with us i.e. Australians are built to swear and not precious about others swearing.
I have flagged - although it’s mostly the Hiberno-Glaswegian culture. I lived in Edinburgh & had to tone it down! But it’s mostly like home! I ❤️ Scotland
And remember that 'fec' isn't the word that they think you're using, and isn't a swear word.
In UK the last Tory govt + the Refuckers etc have done an amazing job of normalising the terms 'fucking evil scum' and 'absolute cunts' when describing politicians and very rich people.
Maybe if we could entice our English cousins to truly say what they feel they might not be staring down the barrel of a gun held by the far right? [the quote is ‘it would never happen here’]
Yes, but you haven’t heard us! Get yourself a holiday to Ireland & prepare to have your mind blown. We get hundreds of thousands of US tourists & they are always shocked - even police & firemen don’t know what to do with themselves! You’ll love Ireland.
It's true. Every Irish person says "oh for fuck sake" under their breath 7 times a day as a little release valve when cleaning it up for les Americans.
My [former] work as a stagehand has acquainted me with sentence structures in which the swear words can be nouns (pronouns and proper nouns), vowels, adjectives, adverbs, prepositions, interrogative, declarative, and simply there for the poetry of it all.
Not least the number of them claiming to be able to use foul language! It seems to stir forth a patriarchal bravado. I’ve turned it into a holiday business - visit Ireland & learn how to swear. The money will be in providing safe spaces for them to retire to!
I've used a few cuss words as "fillers" around the house. I don't know if it's because I'm going senile or I speak more than one language (I speak a little Spanish) or some of both, but it's provided my boyfriend with plenty of entertainment.
Yes! I wish more people understood Hiberno-English and our colonial history as the context in which we swear. Also anyone with even a cursory knowledge of Irish literature can't but understand how wonderful and lyrical and expressive our use of swear words is!
I’m not sure it’s colonial. One has to remember that many Gaelic stories from the medieval & early medieval periods were transcribed by monks who cleaned them up. I have seen some with impressive sexual ‘nouns’!
You’re Following the wrong Americans if this is your experience. I’m retired military. I can’t even be around some of my friends’ kids because I can’t control how much I swear most of the time, lol. So…let loose, Doc.
You’re forgetting hundreds of thousands of Americans visit Ireland every year. Often they are the main tourists & it’s the easiest way to chat to them in a bar or on a street [if they are lost] & ask them have they got used to the bad language. You have to visit. We love the shock we cause!
I went back in 2019 and loved it. I’m coming back for sure. I have a friend who migrated to the Isle of Man, so I also have a reason to visit, not that I needed one. Ireland is on my migration shortlist too.
Anyone who wants to remain on an American social media site with moderation. Can you imagine how they’d take to an Oz or Irish slagging?! Let’s keep them innocent of our depravities! 😉
Thanks for replying R. Truth. the last 14 months have left me stripped of niceties
I've had good interactions with some Americans, but am 'done' .. now fully prepared to go full blown 'feral'.. fuck off out of the Middle East & shut the fuck up.
There comes a time when Americans 'need to be told'
I don’t think that’s fair. After all the Australian govt is in alliance with the US one. You wouldn’t like to be called a war monger - just because your state does horrible things. LGBTQ ppl, for instance, aren’t responsible for how their countries persecute them.
I agree completely with what you say, and have not shut up about Australia's sycophantic behaviour - to the gov here. American foreign policy however is so large, corrupted, and unaligned to international law, that it's an oversized problem.
Au has demanded Israel leave the occupied territories
I was playing cards in Vegas back in 2014 with some of the Kiss crew (they were in town for a show). The cards were not going well for me, and I was swearing, not a lot, or at least I didn't think so, but they called the pit boss over to listen... I think he got a good laugh.
Unfortunately the US state wants a military solution. Biden went from hero to zero in Ireland, once he started shipping weapons. The two sides have to be strong armed into talking & the US is unwilling to do that - they forced the UK to talk, but not Israel.
What's even more unfortunate is until both sides realize that the negotiating table is the only solution, there will continue to be generation after generation of loss and heartbreak.
It's goddamn heartbreaking. I'm really starting to believe we are fucked as a species.
I don’t think so. Israel just plans to wipe out all the Occupied Territories. They’ve taken significant areas of the W bank & half of Gaza already. Their plan was to drive Gazans into Egypt [or as one minister said - into the sea].
I suppose the thing is that Israel has a far right govt & now the US has elected one too. In Ireland they got less than 1% of the vote. I can’t get my head around how Israelis, of all peoples, elected a far right govt. The world is very weird right now!
There's no evidence that negotiations will have any impact on Israel.
A globally harsh punitive sanctions and trade embargo on Israel, America abides by their own Leahy laws, America ceases bullying other countries & using their veto in the security council. America abides by international law etc
You may want to look to Ireland and what a durable peace looks like.
I will repeat there is NO military solution. A state security clampdown only breeds more insurgency which leads to a security clampdown which leads to more insurgency.
How do you stop the flow of arms to Israel, or force Israel to accept that they have to leave Palestine Syria & Lebanon and stop brutalising & bombing the shit out of everyone because
Israel thinks expansion & military answers are everything & America allows it?
There is a fast easy solution right now. The US stop arming Israel & actually telling it to stop [it’s already attacked or invaded Lebanon, Syria, Iraq & Iran in the past year]. The US is the only superpower & it is strange hearing you debate it, as if the US is not in charge!
In other words remove ourselves from social media. If I replied with a typical honest reaction to your comment I’d be reported. Everyone Irish would laugh though. Americans just are v sheltered. They’re always in shock the first few days they are in Ireland!
Having recently experienced a trip to Ireland with my Irish-ancestry spouse, I fully appreciate your brave sacrifice and thank you for ministering to our tender sensibilities.
Thanks Leon! The thing that used to amaze my Dad’s US Marine cousin, who fought in WWII, was little old ladies being nice to him, as a ‘Yank’, & casually swearing as they did it. Hopefully you were made feel welcome 😉
As someone with an American wife and extended family. This is it. The wife has acclimatised too much now 😆 So she also scares people when we visit over there
We're prolific swearers. Where'd you get such a horrible notion that we're offended? I mean, we elected a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, bloviating moron. Not much offends us. 🤬
It’s really obvious on social media & when we work with North Americans. When they visit Ireland they are in shock for the first week! Trust me you ain’t heard swearing until you visit a city like Limerick or Dublin!
The thing to remember is every Irish person has a moment of revelation when they are completely soaked & have probably fallen into a river or stream - ‘my skin is waterproof’. After that it’s OK ✊
The difference I suppose is Irish people are global in outlook. We get on with everyone. We tend to adjust, suck the host country into our culture & make our merry way. For instance Halloween & St Patrick’s Day are global festivities & both Irish. We’re lovers & bad fighters!
Why do you think Aussies are so like the Irish on swearing - it’s not just Irish-Australians - it’s all kinds!? I’m amazed at how offended N Americans are to hear they are not ready for it!
Yeah, I think a few days might surprise you. Why are Americans/Canadians so offended to hear they don’t swear much compared to Irish ppl? Europeans just agree that we do - even the Brits!
It is strange that there’s so much gun violence against kids, yet so much more politeness in US society, whereas we Irish have no school shootings & lots of bad words.
Irish in the US have to tone it down, but I did flag Australians as getting it. I think it’s an Irish diaspora thing to some extent. Glasgow, which is v Irish, has impressive swearing!
Australians have some mouths on us, but nothing prepared me for Coatbridge. It's not the language itself, it's the fact that it included those older than my grandparents!
We curse constantly. At paperwork. At stupid opposing counsel and the things they do. At idiot clients after we hang up the phone. We (at least I) must purge our frustration so that we can proceed to act in a calm, reasonable, and well-planned way moving forward. But first, we scream obscenities.
If you are good friends in Ireland you use really offensive language. When a non-native is accepted into a social group they start being insulted. Some can’t handle it - they’re ‘in’ but upset at being ‘in’!
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Too blimmin right
'All sorts' goes on in the US of A
But you have to describe it in "Hyacinth Bucket" terms.
Any creative Celtic venting about the carry on over there seems to rattle Dem ( and rep) bones for sure ...
Great to have special dispensation.
But, Fuck, we r foul mouthed cunts mate.
It could have a clip depicting violence, but have any colourful language beeped out.
~ a Canadian ;) 🍁
Me, judging all of Ireland from watching “Father Ted”.
*having a normal conversation
We swear to fix the fucking
Metre of our speech.
As you would most likely know, we have a lot of Irish here in Australia and they have very stiff competition with the Aussies😉
In UK the last Tory govt + the Refuckers etc have done an amazing job of normalising the terms 'fucking evil scum' and 'absolute cunts' when describing politicians and very rich people.
Bahahahahaha 😆😂
🙋🏼♀️Aussie
Sometimes it just sounds good in the sentences, guys.
ah yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oicUZqt6T0
I've had good interactions with some Americans, but am 'done' .. now fully prepared to go full blown 'feral'.. fuck off out of the Middle East & shut the fuck up.
There comes a time when Americans 'need to be told'
Au has demanded Israel leave the occupied territories
Swear away.
BTW Israel and Palestine could learn a few lessons from you guys in regards to what peace looks like.
A negotiating table is the only solution. There is no military solution.
It's goddamn heartbreaking. I'm really starting to believe we are fucked as a species.
I mean does it really just depend on who's side you're on?
Have we really not learned anything.....
Rhetorical question. My mistake.
A globally harsh punitive sanctions and trade embargo on Israel, America abides by their own Leahy laws, America ceases bullying other countries & using their veto in the security council. America abides by international law etc
I will repeat there is NO military solution. A state security clampdown only breeds more insurgency which leads to a security clampdown which leads to more insurgency.
And the cycle continues.
How do you stop the flow of arms to Israel, or force Israel to accept that they have to leave Palestine Syria & Lebanon and stop brutalising & bombing the shit out of everyone because
Israel thinks expansion & military answers are everything & America allows it?
If I could give you a fast easy answer, I would win the Nobel peace prize in a stroll.
It's just fuckin heartbreaking watching the cycle continue with no end in sight.
Go ahead & swear all you like so I can learn from the best.
that cursed so much his first name came to be known as"Cursing."