RT actually debunking something? Wow. They are still dangerous. When the Sochi games happened, much of the world media was focusing on Putin's anti-LGBT policies. Know what RT's lead story was about? A bear. I'm not kidding.
Anti-Ukrainian propaganda so blitheringly dumb and obviously fake that it only has two real uses:
1) Fool people as dumb/drug-addled as Elon Musk.
2) Provide an opportunity for explicit Russian state propaganda to try to appear more credible.
My takeaway from vol 1 of the Mueller report has always been that the Trump folks very much wanted to conspire with Russian intel and made several attempts to reach out.
So I've always been of the opinion that after the TT mtg the Russians said "nah we don't need this clown show" and passed on it.
Propaganda-wise —that’s BRILLIANT. Ha ha ha. What makes it a funny burn is that they’re saying ‘you guys are so bad at this’ like they are insulted after their sophisticated propaganda that these amateurs would come in, a kind of professional disdain—‘you didn’t even put any work into it, come on!’
The muga goons are bascially taking Sen Proxmire's 50-yr old "golden fleece award" - and using similar, cherry-picked or made-up unexamined factoids of OuTrAgeoUs! gummit speending - and instead of fixing anything, just ripping out programs wholesale. Nobody even checks their BS examples!
There is NO "MAGA propaganda" outside Russia propaganda.
Also, the Russian one doesn't work this way. Since their goal is chaos (and not a consensus), they don't mind their sister / subordinate disinfo outlets / paltforms contradicting their messaging in NON-essential details.
Sadly, it's more simple and yet complicated than you think.
MAGA doesn't need to know it actually works for Russia. Because, first of all, MAGA was created by Russia.
It's called "reflexive control" (Google it with "Russia") or, in simplier generalized Russian terms, "использовать втёмную".
The seeds of the culture war that created maga go back generations. The MAGA branding itself - to my understanding - was an invention of the trump team.... and it's a bit of a dog whistle to 'merican nazism, as it is a direct reference to things said by H.
Seeds were there. Organisation, media and 💰 wasn't.
You're implying that Donold or people like Pauls could create something this big, brazen and internally-sophisticated.
They couldn't, and didn't. It was work of smart sellouts with known direct ties to Kremlin: Manafort, Flynn, Tulsie, Carlson etc.
Organization media and moneymost certainly was there. I don't know what rock you've been living under but conservative media and money didn't spontaneously pop into existence in 2016.
[PUTIN steps off helicopter to take control of White House, which is in flames, tilted into a sinkhole, has 4000 MAGA hats scattered over the south lawn, and every plant in the Rose Garden is replaced with one of the aluminum Christmas trees from the Peanuts Christmas special]
As much as I'm in awe of Putin's ability to derange 45% of the West, he's a fool if he thinks he can control or contain the lunacy he has unleashed. At this point the madness is self-perpetuating and liable to harm Russian interests far more than the liberal order he is dedicated to destroying.
The collapse of USAID undermines the security of more than the uS. A lot of the global stability we take for granted is possible in part because of USAID. It’s plausible that Russia is worried about china or saudi arabia taking over soft power or loss of global stability undermining their own power
I’m not sure the applicability to my post, as musk didn’t come up, and i’m not sure what your question is. no, musk is not a fictional stand in for saudi arabia, neither are the saudis musks primary source of wealth.
In the early years of RT English, it got a following in the US by debunking US propaganda - before then injecting russian propaganda. They gain trust this way, form a base, and then slowly amp up the russian disinfo, until they have another useful idiot in 'merica.
A lot of Americans and Canadians decades ago saw the reporting from RT as a breath of fresh air cause it offered new perspective away from their own partisan rhetoric in their own media. This was a shortlived time but all part of the russian disinfo system. Gotta tell the truth sometimes.
I was so amazed by RT. I didn’t know what ‘RT’ stood for and, at a hotel, on cable (I don’t have a TV) I saw an hour long interview with (I think?) the head of the World Food Program. I was like ‘This is so good! Like PBS! I should get cable!’ Then someone said ‘girl, it’s Russian propaganda.’
I live in the Appalachian region in the bible belt, his voter base is dumber than you can ever imagine. It mainly boils down to the red neck version of Christianity, it is what ultimately makes them believe they can't be wrong, God is on their side.
Emphasizing “dumb” Appalachian “red necks” who voted for Trump fails to recognize that there are dumb folks like this everywhere. People in all 7 swing states sure were dumb. Stupidity, ignorance and dumbness are rampant everywhere right now not just in the mountains.
I've been all over, there's not much dumber than southern baptist evangelicals. You're talking about people who think dinosaur bones were put on earth by Satan and think the earth is 10k years old. They really believe a man built a giant boat and put animals on it, they take the bible LITERALLY.
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Get conservatives to tell crazy lies, be the one to disprove them. They gain credibility and we lose it both coming and going.
1) Fool people as dumb/drug-addled as Elon Musk.
2) Provide an opportunity for explicit Russian state propaganda to try to appear more credible.
So I've always been of the opinion that after the TT mtg the Russians said "nah we don't need this clown show" and passed on it.
Also, the Russian one doesn't work this way. Since their goal is chaos (and not a consensus), they don't mind their sister / subordinate disinfo outlets / paltforms contradicting their messaging in NON-essential details.
MAGA doesn't need to know it actually works for Russia. Because, first of all, MAGA was created by Russia.
It's called "reflexive control" (Google it with "Russia") or, in simplier generalized Russian terms, "использовать втёмную".
The seeds of the culture war that created maga go back generations. The MAGA branding itself - to my understanding - was an invention of the trump team.... and it's a bit of a dog whistle to 'merican nazism, as it is a direct reference to things said by H.
You're implying that Donold or people like Pauls could create something this big, brazen and internally-sophisticated.
They couldn't, and didn't. It was work of smart sellouts with known direct ties to Kremlin: Manafort, Flynn, Tulsie, Carlson etc.
would you please familiarize yourself with this:
https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/
PUTIN: Not like this.
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1887235490522538184
"BUT celebs DO get paid even for 'charity' trips
Will bring you the REAL details a tad later"
And a video with the E! News logo, about how celebrities were paid millions to appear with Zelensky to boost his popularity for funds
(Also can you write a website to check stuff like that? 😉)
"They are now so unhinged that we have the opportunity to look sane by comparison".
Further, it's really the muskies, magats and donnies, but other sources will be smeared by implication.
Will get worse when the rot reaches deeper into the agencies.
Do you have proof?
"Okay! So here's why Angelina Jolie was in-"
"Too far, let's dial it back a bit."
And I still feel like they're lying
https://youtu.be/CTsa_g5eu-E