No dictators in Barcelona!
Language-friendly as we appreciate all nationalities joining the protest.
¡Dictadores No! in Spanish.
Dictadors No! in Catalan.
"Jesus said to him, 'If you want to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.' But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property."
No this is intentional! I've talked with lots of international organizers about this. In places where they do in fact have a king (Ottawa, London, etc) they mostly are going with this "no tyrants" frame.
Uhhh yeah, canadian approval of constitutional monarchy is mostly just us distinguishing ourselves as not-american. not many people aside from the monarchist weirdos are particularly fond of charles, and we will go to great lengths to not be mistaken as yankees and to hide our american proclivities
As they should. Modern constitutional monarchs like the UK’s are quite limited - far less powerful than Trump (especially given Congress’s abdication of its power).
The UK monarchs used the abdication of Edward VIII, who was super into helping the poor actually (I know), as cover to privatize a lot of land. Two whole counties plus some other areas. They collect rent as landlords, take people's inheritance if you don't have a valid will, etc. In the billions.
Ha yeah I know it was intentional but realized after your reply that my post was maybe unclear. I meant “can’t quite get down with” as in, can’t quite agree with.
actually i think that maybe monarchy is always bad even if it's indigenous. i think that maybe authoritarianism is always bad no matter who does it. i think maybe there should be no kings and all monarchists should be hanged
In a country that has a King and rules about what you can say about him, Tyrant is the most appropriate word. Btw, denigrating the King is a legal offense in the UK.
Hey... the message is still very well received. Get as silly with it as you want, as long as it's making a mockery of the taco shitstain. I, for one, am grateful. A huge thank you to everyone over there lending support.
To be fair, joking aside, we do have an anti monarchist movement over here (people got nicked protesting against the coronation because fuck plod), but I suspect having an anti monarchy demo in this context would mean Trump was forgotten entirely. Probably best separated.
(I suspect the really big anti Trump stuff is going to happen if the state visit isn't cancelled anyway. And hopefully he'll get his golf courses fucked up again).
Same as I assume that the US demos haven't been focusing on abolishing the UK monarchy? It'd shift the focus. As I said, I'm a republican (UK usage, obviously), but it would make the demo about domestic republicanism.
A number of those countries - Australia e.g. - have extremely tepid support for the monarchy, through I suppose even in those cases you might not want to call it "no kings" because people would think it was a rally in favor of republicanism rather than a rally against autocracy
To be fair, "tyrannos" was just the term for any king who became king through deeds rather than birthright back then (which gives the Greek title a bit of dramatic irony that "Oedipus Rex" and "Oedipus the King" can't fully translate, since the plot is Oedipus discovering he's *not* a tyrannos).
*official* birthday. He was born on November 14. The best monarchs get a pomp and circumstance birthday and an at home with the family birthday.
It's also my town's 290th birthday, but we'll still be heading to Worcester. No, the one in Worcester County. No, the Worcester County in Massachusetts.
I think saying we are keeping an anachronistic form of government because tourists like to stare at it is quite an approach to shaping political institutions
Think the point is, as an Englishman, our King, whether you like him or not, won’t handcuff you, pepper spray you or humiliate you if you disagree with him. Also at least our king can speak like an adult and not like year one kindergarten entrant who need his nappy changed every 5 minutes
Ah yes, the English monarchy, an institution famous for being tolerant & kind to those who disagree with them. 😆
(Photo alt: bronze name plaque at site of scaffolding outside tower of London where many were executed) By Bryan MacKinnon -Own work,CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=11456796)
Lèse-majesté laws are still on the books in the UK. They are technically unenforced but there has been no effort to repeal or overrule them even in the modern day; a law that is unenforced is still a law that a sufficiently vindictive state can prosecute you for.
Jeezo, the full State apparatus had to be brought to bear in order to prevent him from being thought of as The Idiot King after decades of being a laughing stock.
There certainly are: AYK, UK Republicanism has a venerable history that goes back to Cromwell.
(Irish Republicanism is different. US Republicanism is obsolete -- or, if it still exists, it's no longer represented or embodied by the now obsolete "Republican Party.")
Apart from it was autocratic and Cromwell was king in all but name, his son succeeded him (although deposed by Cromwell's trusted courtiers, to restore the monarchy) so a short run dynasty.
It also resulted in legal questions that still are to be resolved.
Republicans don't even understand what a Republic is. They always say thing like "We're a republic not a democracy".
For any Republicans reading, you sound like a damn fool. A Republic is a representative democracy. All republics are democracies but not all democracies are republics.
You're the fool because this is a hot take. I did not write about systems of government.
I wrote that the US Republican Party is obsolete. It is obsolete because, to a person, the representatives have rejected US democracy and have embraced fascism and xian nationalism.
There has been absolutely NO ATTEMPT to establish a pro-democracy conservative party for those people who despise the fascist govt now in power (in majorities in all branches) but cannot bring themselves to vote for a Democrat.
From what I can tell, of the places hosting a "No Kings" rally, only the Netherlands both has a monarchy and labeled their rally "No Kings" (as opposed to "No Tyrants" or "No Dictators"). Maybe Willem-Alexander is cut different.
Yeah I noticed today in Toronto that the guerrilla posters saying “No Kings,” we replaced with “No Tyrants.” The right wouldn’t correct such important phraseology.
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We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
No kings, no crown, no throne
Language-friendly as we appreciate all nationalities joining the protest.
¡Dictadores No! in Spanish.
Dictadors No! in Catalan.
—Matthew
#NoKings #NoTyrants
Republicanism (the literal kind) is growing here in the UK
Brilliant.
@republiccampaign.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lrjdobu4rs2t
"Oh, bother. Here comes the Irish."
It's also my town's 290th birthday, but we'll still be heading to Worcester. No, the one in Worcester County. No, the Worcester County in Massachusetts.
And did they also mention the suddenly germane point about international tourism?
They INVENTED the original "NO Kings" Day back in 1215. They can call it anything they want including "Magna Carta day"
(Photo alt: bronze name plaque at site of scaffolding outside tower of London where many were executed) By Bryan MacKinnon -Own work,CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=11456796)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_Felony_Act_1848
(Irish Republicanism is different. US Republicanism is obsolete -- or, if it still exists, it's no longer represented or embodied by the now obsolete "Republican Party.")
Must dash.
It also resulted in legal questions that still are to be resolved.
For any Republicans reading, you sound like a damn fool. A Republic is a representative democracy. All republics are democracies but not all democracies are republics.
I wrote that the US Republican Party is obsolete. It is obsolete because, to a person, the representatives have rejected US democracy and have embraced fascism and xian nationalism.
https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/glossary_term/republic/
"However, not all democracies are republics, and not all republics are democracies."
I mean, just because he's called Charles, there's no need to go all 17th Century on him, or anything, but...
And, absent becoming Lord Protector, I don't think I'd get my way.