At the protest yesterday in Rehoboth Beach, we stood behind 3 Vietnam Vets talking about shooting BB guns when they were kids while holding signs protesting cuts to Vet's benefits and supporting labor unions. We need a big tent!
i love this idea that you guys are "out to build a mass movement" after crushing the left for the past eight years because you didnt want free healthcare, you just wanted neolib politics
The American left crushed itself and dragged dems down by overplaying political capital they didn't have by campaigning on issues with messaging that minimized new support while maximizing its value to fox news and online right grifters.
That's an example of what I mean lmao. The American left took a good idea (save gaza) & then campaigned on the issue in a way that not only made it easy for the right to frame it negatively, but also maximized harm towards Gazans by depressing voter turnout when it mattered.
tbf very easy to make sava gaza seem bad to the average american when the average american is an evangelical who thinks israel will bring forth the rapture
social movements that we look back on fondly got where they did because generations of people got voters to accept ideas that cascaded into legislation & court rulings. They didn't ignore issues 'til they got trendy, discourage people from voting, then forget about it for four years and repeat.
There were furries out in force at my city’s Hand’s Off protest today. I’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with furries to fight fascism if that’s what it takes.
I do agree but also i got a few posts from my alcohol days that might change your mind. Acting a fool with zero awareness while causing damage to yourself and your relationships? That’s just cringe, pure and simple.
A few years ago, I would have snarked back, "Well, we don't want to replace it with Stalinism, that's a lateral move at best" but these days all the wannabe Stalinists are in bed with the Fascists already (while whining that it's the cringelibs who are really in bed with the Fascists, of course).
No, just snarking that the parts of the left that I previously would have been reluctant to work with have already divided themselves off and joined the other side, so my reluctance no longer matters.
No, their switching to the team that was gonna finally fulfill their dream of destroying America and everything they think it stands for was what divided them off, and they did it themselves without regard to me or my opinions, as I'm not a leftist, but trying to work with them against a common foe.
It is not a sprint - we are in for a long run. Trump’s endgame? Power, immunity, and total control. The GOP follows out of fear, ambition, and zero moral courage. History warns us: Stay awake. Speak out. #Democracy #Authoritarianism #Trump #handsoff #penguins #protests #trumpsendgame
Well, I mean look: there are recognizeable English words arranged in more or less the traditional manner (despite the apparent use the verb "cringe" as a noun) -- I'm convinced the author is trying to convey *something*.🤔
Although I guess if he'll fight Trump with us we ought to let him slide.
For one thing, you can’t beat cancer with just one day of therapy.
2 - be very organized.
3 - … it helps to have a clear leader or leaders. Truly educated, inspiring.
Just don’t give up. Big protests are vital. But on- going local protests are of major significance. Can’t let people zone out.
Agree with this! We need to check ourselves for “not like that”. Different people being able to build things for the common good is really what’s on the line here. A large enough portion of the country is tired of listening to other people. Imperfect coalitions have to be stronger than cynics.
As @emilypawley.bsky.social says, “we don’t have to spend years convincing an entire movement to pull in the same direction. Indeed we shouldn’t try. Every major successful social movement has been made up of hundreds of different groups with interests, ideas, and tactics that only sometimes align.”
That's exactly how they're pulling off this coup right now. A lot of different groups that all want a piece of America and don't care if it's destroyed along the way.
Ask anybody who was involved in the WTO protest movement. We were groups that had opposite interests that all came together. I think that’s what was so hopeful for all of us.
It was the same in the Hong Kong protests in 2014 and 2019: students, pensioners, teachers unions, truck drivers, construction workers, accountants, florists, bankers, socialists, everybody and I mean EVERYBODY was represented on the streets.
at this point I feel like, whether it's Purity Test Leftists or Pearl Clutching Centrists: the message is, you're not leading here, so your choice are: follow, walk beside, or get out of the way.
"beside" can go a long way on at least certain issues. We don't even have to converse, BUT
That means shit like throwing elections to the Republican on purpose (or willfully pretending that's not what you're doing). It means trying to throw trans people or immigrants under the bus. I'm sure there are other examples.
Other than that? You go your way, we'll go our way, high, low, whatever, it's a big battlefield and there's a lot of ground to cover. Don't want to work electorally? cool, don't. ONLY want to work electorally, get queasy about Black bloc and too much yelling? Don't go there!
One thing I'll remark on is that it seems like a lot of protests have been targeted for violence because of certain activities that fall outside of "peaceful protest" of a few. That's a problem. I'd argue if they want to watch the world burn, make their own protest as the rest may not consent.
I disagree. Mainstream Dems and their supporters (esp the commentariat) spend a ton of energy punching left.
So mainstream to center right Dems also need to hear this & to understand that if they want to keep leftists in the fold of their coalition, they should try listening more & scolding less.
So expecting whoever you vote for to not drag the party even farther right and say genocide is bad is a purity test?? Sounds like the bare fucking minimum to be but go off I guess.
I’m going to assume you’re asking in good faith so here goes. Literally nobody thinks genocide is a good or even acceptable thing. It’s also an incredibly complex political situation that can’t be viewed in isolation - Middle Eastern destabilization, Iranian nuclear power, whatever.
Ultimately, as an American only able to vote in American elections, the ability to vote again is more important than what the government of a US ally, elected by *its* citizens, is doing. Voting against Trump was more important than protesting US support for Israel’s war in Gaza.
None of that is true, each pulled the party a little further right than the one before. If the Dems keep drifting to the right we have what we have now which is a fascist party and a center right party.
We’ve forgotten who these old people are- the grannies who marched for woman’s rights and abortion, the old guy who was a freedom rider for civil rights or the grey haired couple who staged sit-ins and stopped the Vietnam war.They may be “cringe “ but they know how to change the world.
I hope enough people stay focused on the end goal, which is regaining control of our gov't, and we don't deteriorate into squabbling over the cause of the day. Everyone can fit under the Democratic umbrella if we make room and keep the peace.
I see that world. Peaceful, and everyone has at least enough to not worry and work themselves to death. All are accepted as is. The land that sustains us all is cherished and nurtured to allow it to continue to provide. Common sense and science drive policy. We think 7 generations ahead. Utopia?
Subcultures tend to rely on some elements of cult dynamics and we would benefit from less of that culturally, so I would argue that this is a positive observation. Also, this “mass movement” needs to address why we need it in the first place and a lot of white Americans are not ready for that.
Hey, we're all walking in the same direction. Someone else's shoes may not be to my taste, but dammit, we're all walking in the same direction FOR DAMNED GOOD REASONS.
A lot – if not most – of the folks who came out in Kansas City were elderly. Made me feel embarrassed, tbh. Gen X & Millennials need to get our asses in gear.
We should have nothing but respect for those women. They fought for our rights and created our privileges. The stories my mother has shared. From groping, to losing seniority over a pregnancy, to running a business requiring a man's signature on everything. They don't want to go back.
My mother is in that exact age range and brings up Mahmoud Khalil by name every couple of days wanting to check in with what I've heard about him in the news.
The grandmas are taking these stories to heart and they're PISSED
generally speaking, you want to reward the behavior you're asking people to perform. so if they're doing what you want now, and you want to say something about their past behavior, you've changed the subject. it's not incorrect, but it's distinctly unhelpful. i prefer to be helpful (and hopeful) rn
it's not that i think this isn't a worthwhile topic, bc it is. and I agree with it more than i can talk about directly to people like my mom. i think we can keep an eye on their potential backsliding while encouraging the good in their actions and guide them to be better than they have been
We old grandmas came of age marching for civil rights and against the Vietnam War. We've been there & done that. And now we're doing it again. Learn from us.
Those Old Grandmas wore mini skirts and headbands when we were young, protesting in the 60’s, against Nixon. I know that you might not imagine it but we were young once and those women live inside that wrinkled skin. So glad that you are joining! 🥰
yea they hated nixon and then spent the rest of their lives voting for either reagan and trump or telling clinton and obama to "stop the damn commies from taking over the dnc"
I will admit that there are way too many of my generation who shock me but my dad once told me, as I was against the war in Viet Nam, that as people age, they become more conservative. What are YOU doing to Fight The Power? We need to unite or we are all lost.
And we also fought in the 60s-70s to not be defined by our reproductive status, so it's fine to call us women! Or people. Not all of us are "grannies."
Right on!! There is no shame in aging. It happens to all of us. I hated how the media and fellow democrats treated Biden so viciously for the “crime” of aging. I would love to have Biden back now.
Yep. They’ve been through this shit before, and it wasn’t for virtue signaling or clicks either. They knew what was on the line.
60’s college kids were ferocious protesters, and some died doing it.
"it wasnt for virtue signalling" the boomer generation literally stopped protesting in order to be the most conservative and wealth hoarding selfish POSes ever
Many young people at that time didn't support our protests. It's a misconception to believe that everyone suddenly became "the most conservative, wealth-hoarding, self-centered individuals." My friends and I have consistently lived by and voted for the same values throughout our lives. April 5 too!
“LiTeRaLly”
Phew, that’s some broad brush stuff there.
Just as every Boomer wasn’t a student or a hippie, not every one just dropped everything and decided to become a Republican and hoard wealth.
Many are still willing to protest, which is the whole point here.
We had a very diverse crowd in terms of age in NYC. I wish I could post a pic of the little elementary school children standing on mail boxes (pickup boxes) on the sidewalk along Fifth Avenue. They were leading cheers (“Hey hey! Ho ho! Trump and Musk have got to go!”) seasoned marchers already.
Nyc was really something. I was walking with a very elderly woman using a cane. She said she couldn’t make it the whole way but she’d do what she could. ❤️❤️
The contingent of older hippies was strong and good to see.
You should because they are what you will become. Here they are back in 1970 doing their thing. I was 15 and teenagers were far more aware what was going on in the country and world back then. Even in our HS we had protests and sit ins over Viet Nam and civil rights. https://johnriddell.com/2020/11/03/the-1970-womens-strike-for-equality/
The crowd in Philadelphia today was not young. I think they know what they stand to lose. They remember global battles against authoritarianism and the role America played. And they’re not about to switch sides now.
These are people who are losing their retirement right now. Medicare and social security under attack. These are immediate problems for this generation.
Online leftists love to imagine themselves as the leaders-in-waiting of a revolution, but any revolution that happens will happen whether they participate or not, and many of them will mock it from the sidelines.
Saw on here someone bitching and moaning then said they’re not doing anything bc of “capitalists and capitalism holding us down.” Any excuse not to get off their asses I guess. The name was something with Houthi in it. Won’t post their face bc “Snowden was right” whatever that means.
I have worked on research on union activists in the 1930s using square dancing to build working class solidarity--could be seen as cringe, actually very important stuff.
I will do my part. If you think that is cringe, that's a YOU problem, because I don't care. I am working to preserve democracy. I don't have time for these little mean girls games you want to play. ✌️
Terrible dead end ideas then, worse now. This kind of thinking might sound nice in a grad school essay but it was one of the primary reasons the Occupy movement dissolved into irrelevance. To retreat from mass organizing into tiny closed cliques gets us nothing. Mass movements the only way through
The reasons the Occupy mass movement generally didn't work might actually be de to some of the things this zine is CRITIQUING.
If you are proposing mass organizing, you need to be able to put forward models of how it can work well, and learn the correct lessons from when it didn't, to be relevant.
Yeah, there's no time for cringe. If saving your country has too many cringe elements, you're not seeing the big picture & don't recognize your privilege.
a great mass movement will incorporate great subcultures, which importantly helped to preserve those cultures of resistance for the many comfortable years prior to the contradictions taking hold.
In this way the mass movement is simply the subculture rising to the surface
Some people might chant. Others might bang on drums and dress unusually. Some people might be literal flag-wavers. Understand, we're all on the same side.
What Goebbels& the right generally understood is that people en masse respond to lizard brain and emotion brain before logic. That doesn’t mean emulate the nazis but it does mean don’t expect to debate most people into coaxing them over, esp, again, strangers, en masse
Creativity is great for instance. Careful nuance, in a protest or mass platform/ad context, not so much. Save that for the pub discussions and editorials.
like 90% of them are too simplistic for me to even be contrary about
but i remember last month at a tesla takedown grudgingly participating in a chant so dumb that if i saw it on bsky i'd wanna bite OP's head off. but the crazy thing is i can't even remember it anymore, just that i had nitpicks
i only find some off putting. the one i hate is: "show me what democracy looks like." because empirically you are marching in the streets bc democracy has failed.
Always helps to remember someone else came up with "Yes We Can" and Obama was hesitant to use because he thought it was too corny. It made all the difference when he embraced it.
I went to a protest and before it even started there were men ,woman, children all together young old some rough but all nice and pleasant talking about everything going wrong even get a another protester # so we can go together next time. It was fun & excited my first protest 😄
My cringe is that there aren’t enough young folks out protesting. The older folks went through this 50 years ago. They thought they were retired. Every time you think you can leave, they just pull you back in.
they are more interested in things that are unrelated to protests. the things I can discuss would be things like mutual aid, community defense, stickering/painting in public places, etc
Fwiw, I’m the opposite of interested in attending protests. But after considering the info as objectively as I could, I decided I must add protesting to my own acts of resistance. And do what I can, to help build that movement, too. My most recent sign might hint at why I’m protesting:
that's perfect. and yes, crowds are tough. luckily the bigger the protest, the less extroverted we need to be, it's good not to be center of attention.
Thanks for answering. My approach to the extremity of this time, has been to step back and examine all assumptions about what works. I’ve been systematically working out a multi-pronged action plan for myself, to take what little resources I have and target them to greatest effect.
Citation needed..? As somebody looking in from germany, the average age of those protesting is strikingly high compared to literally every protest I've gone to, and that's a fuckton
they get arrested, you see it in the paper. or they don't yet get arrested and you see a story about a CEO's house being attacked or that kind of thing.
Yes, and we have ZZ Top look-alikes here too, as well as grandmas like me who wear sensible shoes and a pride flag shawl. We're an eclectic bunch, or as my late mother would say, "It takes all kinds."
Omas ohne Angst (strictly understood „grannies without irrational fear“, but the average person would understand it as „grannies without fear“) is the far cooler name though, one has to give the Santa Barbara grannies that
One has to say though that the grandmothers of today are the generation that brought mass protests and lots of political action of all kinds. And as pensioners they have lots of time at hand again
I don’t think it’s the time. It’s so much harder for many older folks, for many reasons others often have no idea of. I think it’s just who they’ve always been. OG protestors. I also saw a surprising number of wheelchairs and walkers. Being in the middle of thousands, in a wheelchair, takes bravery.
Yeah. Maybe because I'm getting older and more creaky, but I really appreciated the retirement home residents who came out on their wheelchairs and walkers to say, "Hands Off our Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare."
Not to mention that some of the ideologically rigid subculture protesters are the most cringe of all. To this protester anyway. Whenever I find myself marching next to one of those, I move far away.
Some of the people in this world I love the most do shit I find cringe all the time. But they're being themselves and doing their thing and it makes them happy, so who gives a fuck what the people-pleasing goblin burned into my brain feels?
people who are quite young are doing other things in this moment that are equally important; but they will not likely be at the craft sign making night.
we have to respect and allow all the forms of action that can be taken, visible or hidden.
They think “cringe” means “thing people my parents’ age would do”. They’re all about firebombing a Walmart, except they never seem to get around to firebombing a Walmart, because they always have a “very good reason” that if spoken by anyone other than them is “cringe”.
None of them ever acknowledge that the reason they’re out here to tell people they’re “cringe” for engaging in nonviolent protest is because they themselves only ever engage in nonviolent protest, which for them means posting on microblogging websites about how hard they go.
i had some friends who were very into secret affinity groups and code names on Signal. one of their actions was to hang a banner from a bridge over a freeway. in the dead of night. with their phones in a Faraday bag.
I’m annoyed the more I think about it. What’s cringe? Age? Chanting? Punny signs?
Future actions may have to become more disruptive. Is getting arrested cringe or no?
White ppl need to reckon with racism. If they don’t, that’s worse than cringe.
America has to be willing to put a boycott plan in place and stick by it. Stop buying what you don’t need except for health and meals. Stop shopping for clothing or shop on line (not Amazon) to purchase things. By no luxury or unnecessary items. Hit them in the pocket for months.
Had a friend complaining her town’s protest had a sizable contingent of wine moms in pussy hats and not enough kids screaming about guillotines and I was thinking
-first off ma’am, you’re in your 40s, that’s a little old to be screaming about guillotines
-second, you need those ladies on your side
Yeah, I always look back at history and say the folks in their forties that were screaming were doing it wrong when they forced the bosses to capitulate or die.
Over the past 5 years I've seen everything from BLM to Bookers filibuster called performative/virtue signaling, often by people who don't even actively protest themselves. At a certain point, you are just working for the other side
I'd question how many of those guillotine kids showed up themselves. Dude sounds exactly like the kind of "Leftist" who insists they are all about change and fighting the status quo but then proudly declares they don't vote or goes "third party." Thus, allowing the GOP to slither into power.
The Dems have been moving further and further to the right with every election during the past 40 years. Harris tried to pull to the right some more. What happens when the Dems are basically Repubs and the Repubs are extreme right fascists?
How do we stop the inexorable drift to the right if we keep voting for Dems who keep pulling to the right? Do you want to live in a country where our choices are fascism or fascism with rainbows and blue hearts? I sure as fuck don't.
Have these people studied the Civil Rights Movement? How many years it took, the trainings in non-violence, the community that cooked for people & let organizers stay at their house when traveling to organize. Have these people studied our own available history of the last time we did this?
At that point there's a less than 50% but more than 10% chance they just break and go full fash because they just can't handle not being "counter culture" and "edgy" because they have to dunk on Wine Moms. I wish it wasn't so but I've seen the Commie sublimation to Fascist effect in person before.
This is why I go to protests looking as normie as possible. I am, in fact, a big ol weirdo, but I have perfected a kind of grey woman bloc that involves Columbia sportswear and Kirkland brand clothes, because Colorado. This especially applies to Pro Palestine actions.
Being a little too old now, I carry guillotines in the privacy of my heart but wear slacks and oxfords in public. We need wine moms, but to think none of them are ready to use the axe while dressed in Eileen Fisher is foolishness.
They could do Pussy Hat route or Karen at Cracker Barrel after church route. We need them excising in the former. I turned 40 last year - nobody warned me about righteous inner rage growth. My 2003 Iraq War protest self is madder than I knew possible - keep them all engaged and their rage flowing.
Cringe is a kind of embarrassment. Sometimes on behalf of others. The writer has something to say. We just need to understand their full message. Hopefully, they will clarify. Then focus on saving democracy in the US. 😀
I need a 1000 word essay locking everyone in on exactly what a no cringe movement looks like. What are the rules? Are there age, fashion, geographic or sex limitations ? Must one be a cool kid or are there a set of norms a wine mom can follow to be non- cringe. Lay it out please.
Sometimes you have to March alongside your Mom or someone who looks like your Mom, and maybe that seems uncool, but sometimes being uncool is the cool thing to do!
I don’t know that I’m upset about the cringe as I am the lack of opposition. Not to say that I didn’t like there being protests where people didn’t get their heads kicked in overwhelmingly (for once), but the messages I saw were basically the same, and that it was a certain “type” of person doing
the messaging that caused that is a kind of inescapable conclusion and a real nut-punch, in the brain, and the heart, and I’m not quite sure how to process it.
(“That” here meaning “The protests sans head-kicking.” Like… idk. I saw signs that I also saw signs exactly like, getting assaulted on a college quad before. People were doing chants that, while pretty vague in general, did sometimes dip into the radical movements bucket, and hearing them not
I felt like- the old times, for me, the dangerous violent cops and fights in the street. all of that in my mind throughout, but with kids and dogs and the elderly and only cheering - it was discordant w my memories
if this crowd keeps coming out, it may make for some safety for the harder times.
Honestly the only lull in the energy for me today (Baltimore) was a self-proclaimed socialist guy using half his speech to insult the democrats. I was sympathetic to some of his ideas but why attack your allies right now? EVERYONE ELSE was talking about unity. Ideological purity is a losing play.
There are a lot more people involved in our situation than just those in elected office. What we all do will change what those in office do, if we present unity, and demonstrate that we can be effective, and willful. They will get with us or we will get them out of there.
Also, the bright pink was meant to be a visual marker, to stand out in photos and to indicate numbers. When you look at photos of that day, you see that it was effective
Look if you want nice things like porta-potties, garbage/recycling bins, and PA systems at your protests you’re going to have to put up with your librarian wearing a t-shirt with a uterus flipping the bird #HandsOff
The last time we fought fascism we were allied with a Russian dictator, one of Britain's most brutal imperialists and a Chinese warlord. I think folks can put up with marching beside furries and ladies in pink hats.
Mass movements mean a lot of mainstream, normie people, however one defines that, and they mean talking points that are simple to convey to get people on board, and they mean earnestness.
I love their sincerity. Listen to their stories. Some have been hurt very badly, lost federal jobs, lost VA services, lost access to Social Security, lost healthcare via Medicaid, lost services for their special needs kids in school, lost aides in homecare and nursing for their elderly parents...
Someone is going to have to fill me on this new connotation of "cringe". The only thing cringe I see going on are the various media commentaries and behaviors of these regime apologists.
Maybe I'm cringe but I have found all of it to be wholesome, uplifting and heartwarming. I love the grannies and their funny signs. I love kazoos and noisemakers.
Can we stop it with the ageism, implicit or explicit? A lot of these people you refer to as “cringe” were out getting SHOT AT DURING VIETNAM. You haven’t seen bullets yet. But I can almost guarantee they’re coming soon to a protest near you. Be more accepting. Or we won’t get out of this alive.
That’s your evidence? That’s not cheering. Dems are better on Gaza than the MAGA folks. But you got uppity, because you wanted perfection. And now we have MAGA in power. Great job!
They used to call cringe "Goo Goo" in conservative circles... to mock GOOd GOOvernment freaks.
It was right in line with Reagan's "scariest words" crap.
I was there in the 60s and 70s for all of the changes that Trump is trying to take away. It ain't happening Trump! We are bigger and stronger than you.
Buddy, I’m a millennial. We operate off of cringe, because we are chasing that happiness. How about you get comfortable breathing air, that’ll take more of an adjustment period.
Absolutely true. If the neckbeard with the Second Amendment tee shirt joining the protest makes you uneasy, you need to stretch and hydrate for this marathon. The more people who support the protest, the cringier things will get. PROMISE. Inevitable, necessary, GOOD.
i think you're right to label it. cringe is a lizard-brain defense reaction to unknown discomfort. it stings a bit but we can get over it real quick when we know we gotta step up
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The cult of Trump is corrupt and that’s the basis for civil disobedience and resistance if it all. Push back!
Although I guess if he'll fight Trump with us we ought to let him slide.
2 - be very organized.
3 - … it helps to have a clear leader or leaders. Truly educated, inspiring.
Just don’t give up. Big protests are vital. But on- going local protests are of major significance. Can’t let people zone out.
like it or not.
"beside" can go a long way on at least certain issues. We don't even have to converse, BUT
That means shit like throwing elections to the Republican on purpose (or willfully pretending that's not what you're doing). It means trying to throw trans people or immigrants under the bus. I'm sure there are other examples.
etc
So mainstream to center right Dems also need to hear this & to understand that if they want to keep leftists in the fold of their coalition, they should try listening more & scolding less.
And the bare minimum is opposing fascists as electing them usually means no more free elections for awhile.
Thoughts for later - what kind of world do we want to live in
https://youtu.be/HC7vThniUBU
we are a diverse group, ranging from the conservative former GOP congresswoman Liz Cheney to members of the Socialist Workers Party
we need, somehow, god knows how, to work to gether, and that is not easy
Like, they've got grandma's out here they didn't even know.
The grandmas are taking these stories to heart and they're PISSED
60’s college kids were ferocious protesters, and some died doing it.
Phew, that’s some broad brush stuff there.
Just as every Boomer wasn’t a student or a hippie, not every one just dropped everything and decided to become a Republican and hoard wealth.
Many are still willing to protest, which is the whole point here.
The contingent of older hippies was strong and good to see.
um, about that.
So far so good.
Share our pictures with people unsure.
Folks I am so proud of you.
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Despite its age, this zine offers important considerations and arguments for organizing collectives.
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The Occupy movement (structure) did NOT seem to be an example of what this zine is calling for. Please convince us otherwise, if indeed it was...
If you are proposing mass organizing, you need to be able to put forward models of how it can work well, and learn the correct lessons from when it didn't, to be relevant.
In this way the mass movement is simply the subculture rising to the surface
actual singing and dancing > chanting but it takes a bit more coordination
I DON'T KNOW BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD
(I DON'T KNOW BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD)
DONALD TRUMP IS HELLA OLD
(DONALD TRUMP IS HELLA OLD)
THEY SAY ELON'S THE PRESIDENT
(etc)
JUST HOPE THAT I CAN PAY MY RENT
SOUND OFF (FUCK TRUMP!)
SOUND OFF (FUCK MUSK!)
needs work but eh
THEY SAY ELON’S PRESIDENT
I HOPE I CAN PAY MY RENT
it just scans better
trust me
i'm a playwright (well, was)
they-say el-on's the-pres i-dent
vs
they-say el-on's (space)-pres i-dent
see
-stays up looking for more filks instead of actually getting some sleep-
If you can fit if in a rhyming couplet, it’s definitely overly simplistic.
The goal is persuasion one way or another. Different contexts & audiences require different strategies. (and at different times)
The people,
united,
Provide a bigger target!
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but i remember last month at a tesla takedown grudgingly participating in a chant so dumb that if i saw it on bsky i'd wanna bite OP's head off. but the crazy thing is i can't even remember it anymore, just that i had nitpicks
let them. focus on what you can do and encourage others to do what they can do.
Great showing!
Somehow they made it to become one of, if not the biggest political movement in Germany today
Protest however you want, you're still on my team
bc “cringe” is a concept for middle schoolers
any adult complaining about “cringe” should be sent back to the playground and pre-algebra
it oughtn’t be dignified even in negation
are we really saying in yr of our lord 2025 that adults are consumed with the idea they might say or do something unpopular?
dying
we have to respect and allow all the forms of action that can be taken, visible or hidden.
Future actions may have to become more disruptive. Is getting arrested cringe or no?
White ppl need to reckon with racism. If they don’t, that’s worse than cringe.
“Check out the Society for Fearless Grandmothers, demonstrating at the Hands Off Santa Barbara Rally.”
-first off ma’am, you’re in your 40s, that’s a little old to be screaming about guillotines
-second, you need those ladies on your side
But you're right that we need all the wine moms we can get
https://bsky.app/profile/davidjorgonson.bsky.social/post/3llsgt5j67k2p
ok, carry on
But I'm not gonna complain. I marched in solidarity.
if this crowd keeps coming out, it may make for some safety for the harder times.
English has it's uses.
they were a direct rejoinder to "grab 'em by the pussy"
like let the ppl most likely to get raped choose how they react to a rapist ffs
And yeah, sometimes things will be cringe.
Sometimes folks won't be where you're at yet.
But if we want to take down this uncaring, violent, awful system we need to bring people IN.
This is good!
This also supports the notion that a movement will not originate with Dem leaders. They aren’t known for being adept at simple messaging.
Something like protecting the Constitution, freedoms. and eliminating big money/corruption in the political system would make a great starting point
I wanna be in that band.
The apathy, disengagement, “too cool for school” vibes are the NEW cringe.
and is "not doing genocide" perfection?
and like dems are better on gaza than maga folks, but thats the bare minimum. churchill was better to poc than hitler, doesnt make him good
and also pro gaza leftists arent wat lost u an election doofus
It was right in line with Reagan's "scariest words" crap.
US Grant.
This is war and new, open ways of fighting is vital
#FightHarder