And to show that hate won't defeat hate you show a musician turning away a gun? Is Michael Jackson being as hateful as the guy in the uniform? You seem very confused.
Since when are equal human rights a problem?
People who want to deprive others of their rights on the basis of being them are the people to watch out for.
Trans people or gay people or lesbian people, it doesn't matter.
Everyone equal rights.
Hate and violence aren't ideal, and should never be a first response, but they absolutely have their time and place, and we're getting there if not there already.
I gots no idea. I talk to my cousin there. I mean life is shit there if you aren’t wealthy. Every damn thing you need to get done takes 47 days. Last time I was there was 2005 and JFC people are so nice and warm but then the regime just poops on it all.
I agree and this status is designed to persuade easily conned people. Too bad the only thing they have is the New York HATER Jeanine Pirro. Go away and stay away from our children!
We weren’t talking about violence until you brought it up. There’s a space between asking nicely and violence. Go back to my original comment. Nobody got their freedom from politely asking. There are means that come after that before you reach violence
"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others." - Matthew 6:5
I second this 💙
So sick of these right wing wack jobs pedophiles who rant about God/Jesus then rape children!
Look up on any registry of how many religious person who rapes children vs Trans / Drag Queens !
It’s almost “NIL” of drag queens/ trans who rape children !
Well it makes me fucken furious that there are still people who think we have to be nice to transphobes. This is not a “listen to ‘concerns’” situation. Fuck them all and fuck anyone who thinks we should listen to them.
So we’re supposed to be kind to people who want us eradicated? As a trans person on the internet, do you know the kind of stuff I hear daily? They can handle being told to eat shit! most of them are too far gone to change their minds anyway.
Don't be silly!
You don't have to be kind, but you don't have to threaten them.
You certainly won't change their minds, but what is sad is that you may push the undecided away from you.
This isn’t a debate. This is my life, and I will fight for it. There aren't two sides here, just victims and oppressors. I get threatened every day. If that pushes someone away, they were never an ally to begin with. You're just outing yourself. Trans people didn't start this.
Their fear comes from political brainwashing, and there’s only so much I can do. No one cared about us until they were told to. I get where you're coming from, but trans people are being physically attacked. We’ve tried easing their fear. it doesn’t work. I don’t think you understand that.
This is a false analogy as you probably know.
What trans & nontransphobes should be doing is trying to remove the fear & revulsion that is the basis of transphobia.
If a child fears someone who is different, do you curse & threaten them?
No, you explain & demonstrate that there is nothing to fear.
This is PEAK liberal bullshit, you are clearly not affected one way or the other through some means of privilege and entitlement, whatever happens you will simply shrug and blame trans folk for their eradication "SEE??? NOW YOU ARE DEAD, YOU SHOULDA BEEN NICER TO TRANSPHOBES!!'
Ah okay, sorry. It’s all very inflammatory. My take is that a very marginalised, targeted minority will probably fare a lot worse now so maybe they want to/ need people to shout back loudly? I don’t know. Sad times.
Yeh. I’m pretty gutted about it and I feel like it will give licence to some just to make (more) shit up. Coming from a place of fear and punching down. Fucking sad.
😂 i just dont get it if you think it helps anything by attacking a highly vulnerable small part of the population .. devoting tons of press to it rather than focusing on tax evasion & a lot more important things.. like incel culture, a lot more dangerous to us all.
I would be surprised if as many as 0.1% of transphobes are actively trying to murder anyone, they should be stopped with force. The 99.9% are still open to persuasion. All your hatred does is convince them that they are right, and push them towards violence.
Oh, but what you want to hear is: "I loooovwethe people who want me dead, I wanna hug and kiss them into respecting my right to live. That will absolutely work, and I definitely don't believe you're one of the white moderates MLK warned us about, who value order more than justice."
Actively trying to murder you and passively trying to murder you makes very little difference to the person being murdered.
The "passive" ones are just busy trying to actively murder other people, like immigrants, anti-war activists, or their least favorite ethnic minorities, using state power.
Hatred comes from fear and ignorance. If you want to feel morally superior, carry on hating. If you want to make things better, try and persuade that majority that are open to it. Back in the 80s homophobia was the big hatred, I saw loads of people converted through conversation and introduction.
There's a difference between wanting to feel morally superior, and wanting to protect yourself and those around you.
You may want to pretend that stonewall never happened, or that it wasn't critically important, but I'm going to live in reality, with the consequences of mine and others actions.
They're at the stage of making laws that actively harm and make life difficult for trans people. If talking worked it would have already, talking down to us from the fence you're sitting on makes you essentially one of them with extra steps.
When transphobes have an army and start using it against trans people and their supporters, the battle for hearts and minds is over. Until then education and empathy are our best weapons.
So how is tolerating transphobia going to help with that? Do you tolerate racism? Can you explain how your tolerance for racism has helped defeat racism?
Never tolerate hatred in whatever form it appears. Always try and tolerate the hateful person because only from that starting point can you hope to turn their hatred into non-hatred.
It doesn't work though, it so thoroughly doesn't work that they're not just preaching hatred but making legislation that will only get worse if left unchecked.
Talking them out of this hasn't and won't work. The chance for that is over.
I never denied that violence was necessary to defeat Hitler. What I did say was that if we’d listened to angry Germans about how unfair the Treaty of Versailles was, Hitler would have remained a failed artist.
People's concerns about the Treaty of Versailles were valid. The things people believe about the trans community are not, they're based on a relentless campaign of FUD. Throwing a marginalised community under the bus to further bigotry is a negative and regressive move.
So, you kill one transphobe with a hammer. Then all the people who loved that person will almost certainly become (even more) transphobic in an (even more) violent way. Result: a far more transphobic world.
No it's not, it's wishy-washy shite from the kind of people who sit by while people's lives are destroyed. Being nice to bigots only legitimises their hatred.
If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him. Same applies for this dipshit.
MODERATOR'S NOTE: this is explicitly not a threat or call to violence. The zen proverb about meeting the Buddha on the road is a metaphor about the necessity of independent thought.
People with such unfounded fears usually wind up with many self-inflicted wounds and are destined to lives of social isolation and incarceration. It's unfortunate, and maybe a childhood intervention could have prevented it. Perhaps someday we'll have a vaccine for it.
Efrim is based, got to see this in person when I saw GY!BE play on their AT STATE'S END tour in Boston a couple years back. Definitely snagged a photo of it
This Conservative Party member gives money to registered charities and individual poor ppl on a monthly basis and has for years. Gave $4,000
to registered charities in 2023. The freeks are parasites.
Why monitor them? Are you into gay sex? You know you don’t have to be in the government to cuck gay men, right? Just go for it! Don’t let your dreams be dreams!
We need new words to describe "transphobes" and "homophobes"; those are misnomers. These people don't have phobias; they aren't afraid. They're just cruel and bigoted assholes.
I am absolutely positive that every transphobic legislature has a browser history full of trans porn. I would love to see Nancy Mace’s browser history…..
These are some of my favorite words that make me smile sometimes and I also can use them having fun and I also can use them if I’m a little mad. I can apply every word accordingly.
But here we only see the word transphobe. This doesn't celebrate trans people. It just reminds us of the hatred that is everywhere and that we can't forget. How does this help me be safe on the bus tomorrow?
Your honor, i did not explicitly rope the reader in, more so stated a fact public schooling told me ata young age, when they were talking about the holocaust, though not directly referencing but also making general hints toward the most famous transphobe of history taking himself out with hisown gun
how the left got involved with supporting mental illness as a social justice issue is beyond me.civil rights got too boring? environment ok now? government humming along?I too support the right of children too young to fuck to chop their dicks https://off.new motto for the quilt
I pray for my enemies to change, but I know it is unlikely.
I refuse to physically hurt others. But I am willing to tell transphobes their sins against their neighbors will be an account against them if they do not repent and change their ways.
We need to start pointing brimstone at nazis
The World hates us, trans folks act more like Jesus then bigots ever could wish to be. God made us perfectly transgender. No need to repent of that. Bigots are the ones who need to repent
When wicked men make laws, & evil against us they are rejecting the very messiah they state to follow.
How does this hatred help me at my next medical appointment? To be safe on the bus tomorrow? Hatred is not nearly as precious and useful as love. Why remind me that I am unsafe? Can we not have equal punk messages but actually about trans and love? To uphold versus exhaust.
Okay but why do I have to visualize some old pathetic person with feces on their lips suffering in pain?
Why isn't the admonition to realize, you know, trans people feasting and dancing together and then dying surrounded by family and comfort? What we choose to focus on grows.
I’m 59, i’ve been around. I have gay friends/colleagues, trans friends/colleagues, straight friends/colleagues & FFS! it pisses me off that fuckwits with no idea have so much influence. Fuck me, LIVE & LET LIVE pretty fucking simple.
You know, the usual. Smell of used sanitary products. Trails of piss and toilet roll. Weird middle aged white women with a creepy obsession over your genitals. the usual.
Also, coming from a trans person myself, I’m terrified of public bathrooms. I avoid them like the plague. I don’t think I’ve used one in years, honestly. Being non-binary also complicates things since neither gendered bathrooms feel right. At the end of the day, most of us just want to be left alone
You're welcome! And thank you for your kindness in defense of trans people. It's nice to see at least one person in this thread who cares more about us than respectability politics.
I'm attentive enough to know my surroundings that NO ONE can walk up to me and even start. If someone came up to you and beat the shit out of you, would there just be a hat and a pair of shoes left?
I love how you think the fact they're related to you gives you license to put their pictures online without their meaningful consent. But then you don't really care about their consent, do you? That's why you have them in your profile, to signal others of your kind.
Then why didn't you block me before posting this? Shame on you. Shame on you! How can you pretend you are an ally but argue with a trans person like this directly?
Why would you shut up a trans person? Because you know better about us, yeah?
Hate for hate is exhausting to trans people! What part of this do you not understand? It does not build a safe world. It gives egomaniacs like you easy indulgent bullshit to feel. Go to therapy already
Yes honey child of oats, I get it! This person is saying hate is wrong and you are telling them to shut the fuck up. Meaning you think hate is wonderful. So I am telling you to shut the fuck up. Okay? Because your hatred of trans people AND your hatred of transphobia is exhausting to trans people!
LOL show me a very specific example of how hatred as opposed to legislation or whatever actually makes anything better. Just one example! You don't have to give me a link, I'll believe you. A practical example. LOL
denazification did not and cannot again occur in a hugbox. anita bryant became a punchline after she was (metaphorically) punched repeatedly. nowadays racists reflexively qualify their racism with "i'm not racist, but" because they know the label is toxic. love didn't accomplish that.
Where do you get that I love Nazis? I don't give a fuck about labels or titles. I'll give the shirt off my back to anyone that needs it. At the same time I'll bust your teeth in, if you deserve it. It's all about ANARCHY. FUCK THE GOVERNMENT.
Left, right......blah, blah, blah. I didn't fall for the left vs right paradigm. I'm Anarchist. I will give the shirt off my back to anyone that needs it, yet at the same time I'll fuck someone up who deserves it. Don't start no shit won't be no shit!
Look at your comment. Does it seem like you are relaxed and feeling nice in yourself? Why are you preaching hatred? You don't have to! There are more effective things you can do.
So you are a hater. So we should hate you. Fantastic reduction of hatred in the world! You don't care about love and hate. You only care to reduce hatred just for yourself. You don't care where it bruise in the world and will overcome you again and again
I don't care to grovel at the feet of the cis people that hate me for acceptance and love when they make it very clear day in and day out that we will never be good enough for them.
Polishing your chains will NEVER bring you liberation, sibling, no matter how shiny you get them.
So what do you do with people within your own Community whose opinions different than? Because it's very easy to say, I don't have to accept you because you're not part of my community. Perfectly skilled othering, hm?
I am in your community. I am trans. But I do not enjoy whatever privilege you have, possibly simply of youth, to pretend that hatred builds a safe world for any of us.
I look out for myself! If you come at me with hate, I will proudly give it back. You come at me with peace, I will proudly give it back. What others do to others is on them!
If you're hateful towards trans people, you're a shitty human being and you deserve to be fucking hated.
It's easy to not be hateful, just leave us the fuck alone.
What's the alternative? I should debase myself to their level and hate them? I should become a murderer? I should become a bigot? So what's the difference between them and me? I am actively choosing not to be a hater not because it will send me to heaven but because it will improve my immune system.
Transphobes do not see this sign - so who is the reminder of hatred for? If the only lazy imagining you have is of boots grinding, that's the only thing you'll get! I don't want to be reminded of the hatred against me in the world at every opportunity - would YOU?
Have you seen a single transphobic shit or die alone? What's the point of this glib hatred? Will it help me on my next medical appointment? Will it help me to be safe on the bus tomorrow?
Yet, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The thought process doesn't change the fact that you're still human. Are you perfect? Pretty sure you've done something that others would say you're not human, yet you still are!
Actually hating hate is fundamentally different from hating a partition of fellow humans for something completely other than how they treat other humans. I don't know how that's unclear.
#Algorithmic #apocalypse: - when faith becomes a number, love measured in "likes", and grace is only given according to the terms of use` algorithms make you believe you are too ugly to be loved, and too suboptimal to be human - #Monkssnap https://on.soundcloud.com/1heisu2ktG6WLKuh7
TAX WEALTH NOT WORK. I’m horrified my short haired women being asked if they belong in this or that bathroom it is disgusting even if it happened to be a trans woman it’s disgusting.
🤣 Is that the proper attract to attract a nice date?
This'll help improve your attitude & your chances.
No one likes a grouchy date saying bad words. https://youtu.be/GVytXppIFw0?feature=shared
It’s truly fucking sickening to my CORE. Leave these folks alone. For chrissakes they don’t want them to have jobs, have housing, medical care, feel safe at home, be able to take a piss in public. It’s as though they transferred that same hate from gay folks onto…hey wait a second!!!
I think the problem is most of the repugs are homosexuals who have never come out of the closet. And the trans women are beautiful and they just want to be with them. This scares the crap out of them. So they torture cis women because they hate us.
No definition for "Transphobes", means it's anyone that dares to question the narrative that is shoved down our throats. - Some dumb normie Cis scientist that cares about definitions of words.
Really? What are Trans rights, then? Are they different rights then what everyone else is asking for or are we all in solidarity for universal Healthcare? Narrative says the former is true.
The narrative that you have made up says the former is true.
Reality says that trans rights are human rights, but some people take issue with the trans community wanting the same rights as everyone else, and not to be discriminated against purely for existing.
Cannabis smokers don't want to be discriminated against either, but everyone isn't pushing for can bis smokers rights. The LGB rights were specific right that were denied us. I'm bi. I get it. But what are Trans people denied that the rest of us all have? None of us have universal Healthcare
I never seen a sign or Trans person at a protest with a sign for universal Healthcare for all. All I see is online digital warriors "fighting" for Trans rights. Can anyone define specifically what "trans rights", are? I can't. Been paying attention for years, but still no clear message.
How do you know that you've never seen a trans person at a protest?
Tbf it is hard to see the clear message if you just ignore it whenever someone tells you.
Nah they die in marraiges of quiet resentment where they know no one in their family really loves them or cares to know them as a person rather than a performance of a role; but everyone smiles for the picture so it's ok. Alone would be better.
I just want you to know that I was feeling really doomer today about just nearly EVERYTHING.
But just seeing this again and knowing there's folks out there that will stand in true solidarity regardless of what the gov't is saying.... just totally rejuvenated me. Thank you.
Reminds me (non binary) of when I worked as stage crew. It's quite a transphobic scene in my experience which is odd since there were SO MANY queer folk on the job. If you saw someone female presenting you could almost guarantee they were queer.
What is a transperson? By using the term they are in a state of transition that they will never be able to achieve i.e. you can't alter your chromosomes or DNA.
Especially since they're the same assholes that want little girls to give birth. How those creatures even get any action is beyond me. I'd think most women wouldn't touch them with a 30 meter cattle prod.
Way too many people are obsessed with other people's gender. Do they think they have a chance fucking everyone? Why should it matter? Are they embarrassed that they are attracted to something they shouldn't be? It makes no sense to me.
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Boundaries, people.
Muted
I'm trans and 52 years old, did YOU really just tell me to "cope"?
😆
What an ally!
Did you really try to lecture me about what PRIDE is?! 😆
Protest and activism is NOT HATRED.
SHAME on you
Muted
I told your dumbass who is tone policing, that PRIDE was a riot, and the rights were won with violence.
How many times are you going to say the last word and then tell me you muted me?
You should probably talk to someone.
People who want to deprive others of their rights on the basis of being them are the people to watch out for.
Trans people or gay people or lesbian people, it doesn't matter.
Everyone equal rights.
So over this TraNSPhoBiC bullshit.
We had people talking about "outdated biology", totally HIGH on being "correct, no debate", and now we have fascism.
Die, for real, wherever and whenever you try to lay hand on me. Now and forever.
I just think it's important to express the ideas precisely. "Hate" is antagonism based on some irrelevant, immutable characteristic, not politics.
Religion is poison.
Happiness is a choice, not a condition.
All glory be to God
Neat book. You should try reading it.
so that I cant die "alone" without trany's around.
So sick of these right wing wack jobs pedophiles who rant about God/Jesus then rape children!
Look up on any registry of how many religious person who rapes children vs Trans / Drag Queens !
It’s almost “NIL” of drag queens/ trans who rape children !
You don't have to be kind, but you don't have to threaten them.
You certainly won't change their minds, but what is sad is that you may push the undecided away from you.
The problem is transphobes, not "being mean to transphobes".
We should be mean to Nazis, right? Will it increase antisemitism if we stop tolerating antisemitism?
What trans & nontransphobes should be doing is trying to remove the fear & revulsion that is the basis of transphobia.
If a child fears someone who is different, do you curse & threaten them?
No, you explain & demonstrate that there is nothing to fear.
It would be lovely if that was enough, but it isn't.
Sometimes you have to throw bricks at the police in addition to organising the Pride marches!
Would you sit down to explain to a Nazi that ACTUALLY they are wrong, while they have a gun to your head trying to eradicate you?
No! you fucking gut the cunt before they gut you?
No???? Because they don't care if trans people and their defenders are nice???
If they cared about niceness they wouldn't be doing stochastic terror?
Wtf are you smoking!
Pathetic
As they do.
Some people only feel happy and powerful while degrading those weaker than themselves.
IMO, Terfs feel powerless against men.
But instead of fighting for equality against men? They kick us to feel better.
We're safe targets.😡🖕
I've got about 25 years left of life at best.
I don't want to spend that cowering and trying to be a smaller target for people who are going to hate me no matter what?
Since I can't control them in the slightest.
FAT SHIT
Did not make sense
Transphobes, learn empathy, reject your prejudice, and become part of a more loving and happier world.
We are past that point by several orders of magnitude.
The "passive" ones are just busy trying to actively murder other people, like immigrants, anti-war activists, or their least favorite ethnic minorities, using state power.
You may want to pretend that stonewall never happened, or that it wasn't critically important, but I'm going to live in reality, with the consequences of mine and others actions.
Only one thing EVER defeats hatred and that is destroying haters.
dear transphobes
go to your local playground which has a severe cat and fox problem
and eat sand.
Hatred cannot be ended with hatred. Only non-hatred can end hatred. This is an absolute truth.
Otherwise you're just making excuses to not get involved and keep your hands soft and clean.
Talking them out of this hasn't and won't work. The chance for that is over.
I'm sure that won't result in more rights being eroded by hate, surely.
MODERATOR'S NOTE: this is explicitly not a threat or call to violence. The zen proverb about meeting the Buddha on the road is a metaphor about the necessity of independent thought.
FIGHT THEIR OPPRESSORS!
Transphobes can eat shit and die alone for eternity.
https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/72063491-transphobes-eat-shit?store_id=3139046
to registered charities in 2023. The freeks are parasites.
While the most commonly known is "fear of" it also means "rejection of" or "aversion to".
Easiest example of this: Hydrophobic or Oleophobic materials and substances.
Trans and Homophobia is about the rejection of or aversion towards those groups. It's legit.
Transphobes, eat shit and die alone
or
Transphobes eat shit and die alone
They didn't ask for any attention, just existing and transphobes can't help but be the weirdest dumbest people
Some people find harming those who are even worse off than themselves makes them feel powerful and in control.
It's the way some humans behave.
Your statement implies that TERFs don't think women can harm them when they are harming themselves.
I refuse to physically hurt others. But I am willing to tell transphobes their sins against their neighbors will be an account against them if they do not repent and change their ways.
We need to start pointing brimstone at nazis
When wicked men make laws, & evil against us they are rejecting the very messiah they state to follow.
Why isn't the admonition to realize, you know, trans people feasting and dancing together and then dying surrounded by family and comfort? What we choose to focus on grows.
Visions of WHAT?
Post rock has always been about the deep love we should have for strangers
Do better ffs...
Why would you shut up a trans person? Because you know better about us, yeah?
You are also now muted.
Enjoy your allyship to hatred 🤷🏻
Muted
SHAME on you
Do better
You can pick whatever Country and or state city.
Meeting hate with apathy just lets them win.
Seems like one of those situations to me.
If you break the social contract of tolerance, like oppressors do, we don’t tolerate it. Simple.
The fuck kind of masochistic bullshit is this?
Fuck bigots, fuck bigotry, fuck transphobes, hate the haters.
I will defend my community because I ain't doing this liberal "love the mean people they just have opinions :(" shit.
Polishing your chains will NEVER bring you liberation, sibling, no matter how shiny you get them.
You need to grow up period
Do whatever the fuck you want to do, but I want liberation from cis society, not to assimilate into it.
Doesn't matter how much you grovel and do the turn the other cheek number.
It's easy to not be hateful, just leave us the fuck alone.
People are allowed to dislike those who want them hurt.
What's the actual vision?
This is how you show up as my ally to remind me of the hatred against me in the world? What for exactly?
Are you a transphobe yourself and this is your sophisticated way of taunting and harming a trans person?
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How does this help?
https://on.soundcloud.com/fxjE8PSJVFT1XgKZ8
they can BOTH eat shit and die alone
This'll help improve your attitude & your chances.
No one likes a grouchy date saying bad words.
https://youtu.be/GVytXppIFw0?feature=shared
Oh, I'm doing that to my amp now.
That first story was wild.
Reality says that trans rights are human rights, but some people take issue with the trans community wanting the same rights as everyone else, and not to be discriminated against purely for existing.
Tbf it is hard to see the clear message if you just ignore it whenever someone tells you.
Sorry mate but I’m calling it as I see it, and I see this as bullshit.
Explain why we are under any obligation to moderate our tone, with people who are actually having fun making our lives much harder?
When we didn't do anything to them in the first place?
But just seeing this again and knowing there's folks out there that will stand in true solidarity regardless of what the gov't is saying.... just totally rejuvenated me. Thank you.
If you are go fuck off with your bullshit. If not sorry I’m sensitive about MAGA assholes.