You ain’t wrong. Historically bad is nowhere near bad enough. It reads to me like 40% of people approve of mass extinction via white supremacy. I’m not impressed.
It's better than that in that white supremacy frequently permits underclasses of slaves to exist... so we can knock it down to merely genocidal rather than extermination if we're being generous.
This trend is the answer to “why are so many women deciding to stay single and/or not have kids? Where has all the babymaking gone?”
Between not wanting to be tethered to the kind of asshole who embraces this and not wanting to bring daughters into the world to face these creeps, answer seems clear
Millennial women numbers are also disappointing. 40% approving Trump?! Millennials came of age in a post 911 world with rampant Bush gov lies, torture, black sites, financial crises due to GOP deregulation & now our children have LESS reproductive rights than we did- and 40% STILL support this! Ugh.
i don’t want to excuse women for their views but putting millennial women in context, when they were children, everyone they knew was GenX or boomer. for many women, any good idea they had about how to make the world a better place was met with nihilistic contempt and derision or just a blank stare
I'm so glad I managed to find a Gen X husband all those years ago who was raised by a staunch feminst and who is a true intellectual. Good lord. 😳 Didn't know how lucky I was, I guess.
Gen X men and Boomers are divorced single dads who can't get dates with younger, independent, liberal women, and they are angry. They want obedient women, like their mothers.
I'm Gen X and it's wild how much more attractive men younger men have been to my eyes than men my own age. (FWIW, my mom said after divorcing my dad, the younger the men, the more enlightened they are about women.)
Same. In the south and what the hell happened to men my age? I mean I knew a lot of them were always terrible but, wow. Lately just 8, maybe 9 out of 10 are irredeemable.
What laborers? Idk what kind of job that is. Lower middle class level jobs nowadays are retail and service. A lot of blue collar jobs are making big money.
Trumps best support is $50-100k. He gets very close to half the wealthier segments. Those folks aren’t hurting.
As a GenX man, I can state with absolute certainty that if anyone ever told my mother (God rest her soul) she needed to be “obedient”, she’d have promptly kicked them in the nuts.
For that matter, my wife would 100% do the same.
My Gen X guy doesn’t want this thanks TO his mom. Note to her character: she once removed soap and TP from a “white” bathroom to put it in the “colored” bathroom in Selma. My Boomer brothers are also very progressive. I’m all for calling out people, but let’s not generalize like this.
Wait. This is sad news. I am a GenX male going through a divorce. If I made up a wishlist for a companion it almost certainly wouldn’t contain the notion of obedience.
Honestly, I am looking for someone to teach me something. Hopefully an intellectual equal in a different field.
I am a Xennial and so was my ex. "They want obedient women, like their mothers" is why he is my ex. I last spoke to him in 2011 and he didn't care much about politics. I doubt he likes Trump policies, but I also doubt he cares enough to be bothered by them. I am certain he loves Trump's personality.
I'm a late Boomer/Gen Jones woman and I won't date men more than a couple of years older than me because at best they want a medal for acknowledging that women are as much full human beings as they are.
In the sense that millennials were sort of the first digital natives, Gen X are the first feminist natives. “We know women are equal - but how come we had to miss out on the same deference and privilege?”
I hear you, except for family of my late husband (my husband became a progressive and rejected their Christian conservative shit once he got to college), all the men in my life are progressive and sane.
I’m willing to take some heat on behalf of Gen X men but don’t you dare blame our mothers who did more fighting for reproduction rights and equal opportunity than any generation. The lack of gratitude to those women is astonishing
I gotta say I find that offensive because those numbers are not dissimilar enough to merit that reaction. The only one that comes close is gen z, that's a problem. But single digit differences? Come on, dude. The margin for error eats half of those!
No, because he gives them permission to behave the way they want to because men are the problem. They’ve always been the problem. Women do not have to protect themselves worry about being safe in another woman’s company, but they do have to if they’re in the company of a man
i’m not much a numbers guy, but this is probably bullshit. overall rating, 41 percent approval, 45 percent strong disapproval; the numbers in that graphic seem to be from a strongly manipulated data set.
I mean I grew up with Wall Street, platoon, summer school, red dawn….. I see it plane as day. Rush Limbaugh was in the radio every single day in the installation bay at my Best Buy in the 2000’s with 18-25 year old dudes installing radios listening to rush tell them who to hate… ALL DAY… everyday.
Same. This admin is almost case-by-case an amalgam made of every 80s-movie villain caricature, ever. Right down to being willing to close ALL the local community centers to build parking lots and pocket the funds!
It happened. The election turned on the male vote. I thought we had come a long way, even with males. It seemed they knew they were better off sharing the workspace, and the typical only male responsibilities of the past, but it seems not. I lived in my circle and did not see out of it.
No! We are not! I have never voted for this treasonous piece of crap, but men in general are not okay! Everything that is and has been wrong on this planet has been the direct result of man’s actions! You have never heard of a “woman-made” disaster!
Depends on your definition of "men". If weakness and cowardice and boot
licking and meanness are in the definition then nothing is wrong. Right on target.
In man world, things are not normal. There's so many different and competing versions of "man" these days - and MAGA/Joe Rogan is the cosplay version: outward appearance and behavior, none of the actual skills or responsibilities (like fatherhood).
........ the stupidity of the average American, and especially the males, is almost breath-taking..... I am trying hard, but I will never understand how we got here.
Social media has played a large part in American stupidity, the little boys in big tech have a lot to atone for. I’m tired of men in general, they feel threatened, they know the general consensus is “you’ve had your day, now get out of the way.”
I'm sure much can be correlated to education levels. They have succeeded in making Universities unattainable for most. It took 45 years to get their returns on disinvestment.
Obviously you don’t understand democracy or you would take serious issue with the current breakdown of our democratic systems and the unconstitutional acts we see on a daily basis. You came into that conversation insulting women so don’t lecture me about rudeness.
As a GenX woman, same. It’s disgusting how our generation has failed to live up to its promise (in the sense of potential) of killing racism, homophobia, transphobia and misogyny.
As a mom with a GenZ son, they get a ton of shit from YouTube. My son votes liberal but I catch him staying stuff that is alt-right adjacent without him realizing it. They get sucked in by snarky, pseudo intellectual commentary & then don’t even realize when the rhetoric takes a turn.
Also, this was an explanation and not meant as a defense. He’s a smart kid (23) who needs to better interrogate his media sources & learn to recognize when the snark is really about punching down on folks. Or the “facts” are actually made up nonsense.
Also GenX men you motherfuckers, represent! Jesus Christ: you grew up with decent punk values what the fuck happened? Not as rich as you dreamed? Get over it. You’ll be better off if you fight for the common good.
None of us are ok. But it seems like they can’t stand a field that’s tilted 10% in their favor— much less a level playing field. We’re all fighting. Some of us are carrying others willingly and with full hearts.
As a GenXer, I can tell you that men my age are not ok. The only emotion they are socially allowed to express is anger. So everything makes them mad. Everything they don't understand or makes them uncomfortable triggers anger.
I am glGen Z. I'm 27 years old and I'm definitely not in that fucking 45%. What the fuck is my generation doing? Of course it's probably based around fucking Charlie Kirk and all these young assholes brainwashing them.
The “anti-SJW” Internet culture that Gamergate popularized did a number on them. I’m older Gen Z and I nearly fell down that rabbit hole. I’m glad I got out before it was too late
What still puzzles me is 24% of gen Z women I don't understand that either lwomen deserve better in their lives. Those 24% women need to wake up immediately right now.
I became more aware of politics in Obama’s second term, but I wouldn’t consider myself fully politically conscious until 2018-2019. That’s when I started realizing just how shitty Trump was.
My relatives had lied to me about him, saying he wasn’t that bad and people were overreacting
He appeals to their toxic masculinity many men I know would prefer women be home raising babies and speak only when spoken to. Secretly of course. They have to maintain their public “enlightened” image.
I no longer trust polls
I believe his unfavorable is greater then what they are showing
I have no data to prove this
Maybe delusional wishful thinking
They should much lower then what we are seeing
But the tend is good news
Gen X is really letting the side down. We have forgotten the faces of our fathers like Kurt, Eddie, Chris, Prince, Joe, Billy Joe, Sid, GM Flash, Leonard, Tom… we have grown into our worst fears… Tim Allen.
I'm curious how bad the polling has to be for Reps and Senators to abandon the obviously sinking ship (although it will be for their own self preservation, it'll still be nice to see)
Contrary to popularly held belief: men are FAR more emotional & reactionary than women. The biggest gaslight in history has men been getting away with labelling *anger is not an emotion.*
Let's be real: the only generation with a reasonable divide is the gen z stat. When you see someone talking about racial differences and use a statistic like '7% more likely', you laugh at them, because that's a joke.
We’re talking about a group of people that were shocked to learn 20+ years after buying their albums that Rage Against the Machine are ultra left wing socialists.
I think the answer that men are atrocious in reading comprehension and listening skills.
I think a large part of it is just how much easier, like, *life* is for us. It's fucking hard for everyone, but we have a huge inherent advantage, we're given the benefit of the doubt basically always...
Existing as a man in a patriarchy is easier, and I think it makes a lot of men smooth brained.
It always shocks me how high the approval ratings are for him. As low as his numbers are, we can get them lower…just wait for the summer of scarcity. Hard to hide empty shelves behind a litany of lies.
It's manosphere brainwashing. Their fathers aren't talking to them, aren't present, or aren't good role models themselves, and can't explain to them why the dating scene sucks, so they turn to these fascist influencers online who are ready and willing to tell them it's women's fault.
Fundamentally, it’s because women don’t ‘need’ them anymore. Financially, emotionally, sexually. And they feel threatened. A man of quality is not threatened by a woman of equality
So then my next question would be is how can we combat that? We shouldn’t have to. But we are all going to suffer if these goobers are allowed to just exist. And pointing out that they are trash only isolates them further and causes more issues.
Even if Trump and Vance are removed from power right this second, and real effort is immediately put towards fixing three-letter agencies and relations with other countries, we’d just be back to square one if we didn’t address Gen-Z and Gen-alpha brain rot in a meaningful way.
young men (teenage boys esp) feel a lack of control in their lives. old enough to be expected to be responsible but not old enough to be independant. that, and they're still building a sense of self & are insecure about relationships. tate preys on this.
he feeds them the idea that women should be subservient & that being a right wing piece of shit will bring them control over their lives. none of your problems are your fault, it's all (insert minority here)
Excellent question. I’ll be turning 70 near the end of the year. I grew up in the New York metro area. I’ve known trump to be a sexist, criminal and bigot for 4 decades. Virtually everyone I befriended in college know this, too. Many in his cult live in a right wing disinformation bubble.
Other people are too lazy to pay attention. Neither are an excuse for supporting trump. I’m having a hard time dealing with relatives who openly support him even when I know it’s because they’re in that bubble of lies. I’m most concerned for my kids and theirs and their peers.
Doesn't explain the women. And the Boomers have the highest divorce rate. Their children are Millennials. Millennials have the lowest divorce rate. GenX and Millennials have the lowest divorce rate. Divorce most commonly happens within the first 5 years of marriage.
A lot of (former) punks seem to think that punk is just counterculture. So when majority politics started to align with theirs, suddenly it's not counterculture and must then be fought
I’m sure you’ve seen the Twitter thing where rightwing genXers are complaining about Tom Morello turning left. True story. He finally responds “just what machine did you think we’re raging against?”
GenX dad of GenZ kids here. Awful GenZ men are almost always raised by awful GenX men. Hardly surprising. The rest of the awful GenZ men likely got Rogan-pilled or Gamergate-pilled.
Before this election there were plenty of surveys suggesting Gen Z had the biggest gender gap in modern history wrt sociopolitical beliefs. i'd argue peak Tumblr was the most effective pipeline to the left the internet ever had
Young men are voting conservative in larger than ever numbers in this election.
Combine that with the vaccine-averse parents and the people who are STILL pissed off they could not board a plane without a vaccine 3-4 years ago, and tomorrow could be scary . . . .
zoomer male myself, think my generation has had their brains annihilated by drugs and the computer and trump represents to gullible men a break from that experience, even if they don't know it. not that i want to make excuses for them, plenty of people in the same boat who are less gullible
White Gen X men were raised on a steady diet of toxic masculinity and hyper-patriotism. Think: Stallone, Reagan, Arnold, Gulf War 1, etc. Not coincidentally, the myth of “business genius” Trump emerged then as well. It’s 100% on brand for them to be his base.
Falling Behind: The Miseducation of America’s Boys, explores the #mentalhealth crisis among teen boys--growing loneliness, emotional suppression, and rising suicidal ideation. This episode highlights the need for systemic change in schools and society to help boys reclaim their emotional lives.
If you grabbed a random pair of Gen x and millennial men, there is a 3.5% chance that the gen Xer would support trump and the millennial wouldn't. That just doesn't seem high enough to start developing serious theories about why.
Same (born ‘76). The more feminist/liberal grunge music hit when I was in high school, I absorbed that. Watched Red Dawn (which I missed as a kid) a couple years ago, and its plot was a checklist for Tucker Carlson-style panic. The over-50s are not okay.
Not all of them. I grew up in that world, and although I was witness to the ostentatious mythos, I never had any affinity towards toxicity masculinity or hyper-patriotism. The fact of the matter is that hyper-patriotism isn't patriotism. It's sedition more than anything.
I'm 54 and with you. Some of us were wired different. I saw all that and was repulsed by it. I watched it all with horror. I was in grad school when Reagan died and celebrated a little bit at his death. Been fighting these right wing ghouls for 35+ years.
Real or imagined, a lot of people are making a lot of money telling them they are not. Dems truly need to find a way to appeal to more men without being dismissive and without throwing any other groups under the bus.
The GOP have destroyed their brand for at least a generation, if not forever.
Those numbers mean once the asshole GenXers are gone, the base of the party goes with it.
As a Genxer, it's embarrassing to realize that the "iconoclastic" description we embraced is just old fashioned assholery.
Been saying it for a long time, Gen X has been getting Boomer residuals, taking in the last stable days before the facade of this country fell, and they voted to keep it that way. Now many are only in their 50s with no retirement. I feel bad honestly but still voting that way?
When was the poll taken? Because there is no way in hell that many people still worship the big orange turd. Those numbers don’t even look right in Mississippi and don’t match up with other polls.
But they need to emphasize why that is a problem and what can be done to change it, otherwise it could just be a fake kissbutt poll to make Trump happy. When Fox News said Trump’s approval rating is 44%, Trump demanded that Rupert Murdoch fire people and if their poll says 44% it’s not 71% of Rep.
No idea of where the numbers are coming from. I’m a Boomer in a gated community of 9000. At least 7000 are anti- Trump. Of course, the majority ARE women.
I mean, you live in a gated community in Maryland. You're surely aware that the people around you are *wildly* unrepresentative of the average American of your age. I wish they weren't! ❤️ But it is what it is.
Right. Totally understand, can't blame you! But yeah, that's "where the numbers are coming from" — from across a country where sadly, many boomers are not like your neighbors...
"Woke" women have the most sense! Hoping to see one of our current Sophmore politicians AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Liz Cheney or Michelle Obama as president.
Liz Cheney enabled as much as any other Republican. She may have finally found some guts to fight back, but I see nothing about her that doesn’t scream self-gain.
I don't disagree...I mean....she is a Republican....but she was the FIRST, very first to stand up tall, Demowienie or Republicant. That tells me she has more sense than them all and to me that means more that partisanship.
It’s a low bar, and based on the fact that she supported a party that propped him up, I’m just saying that, low bar or not, there’s significantly better than she. Your other choices I’m spot on with.
Again I don't disagree although I think our low bars are different. She is low bar because she is a Republican, shit Hillary Clinton and complicit Democrats propped up Wierd 45/47 first! Lol I like her character I challenge you to find me a better female Republican
I'm Gen X and noticed this shift when everyone my age got on Facebook around 2008. Almost every guy I dated as a teen who seemed normal at the time went the Tea Party anti-Obama route.
Even my even-tempered son thinks America’s men are getting ignored & sometimes reviled just for being men. It’s hard for me to sympathize, since women have dealt with it since time began, but he may be right. We need a middle ground here.
Ever hear of the Scales of Justice? Nature and justice demand balance. Men are not being ignored or reviled - they simply as no longer granted the privilege to which they have become accustomed.
It might have more to do with right wing propagandists endlessly trying to exploit every possible grievance that is even imaginable to get clicks and radicalize them but what do I know...
One of my “very online” sons says the same thing. There is certainly a pervasive narrative being pushed to our young men and boys that they are somehow being cheated and that girls and young women have huge advantages. It’s so bizarre. Reality doesn’t support that assertion, but they believe it.
My son is not “online” and also feels it. Something about our current culture is conveying male=bad. As a Boomer female I think it might just be that men are losing (finally) their total dominance and that surely feels threatening. But that seems too easy a reason. I’m sure it’s more complicated.
24/7 gaslighting from rightwing media such as Joe Rogan, and worse, various youtube and game streamers. Completely detached from reality but young men don't have critical thinking skill fully developed yet, and if that's where they get their information, may never.
He’s not young, not a Rogan guy, & is a critical thinker. If men are feeling it, there’s something there. And please don’t tell me that, like school shootings, gaming is the cause.
The something there is that the society they're in is chaotic, and they're being sold lies. And since those lies give them something to focus on, they readily believe them. This isn't women's fault.
Gaming is not the cause. It's listening to those game streamers. Have you ever heard what they talk about? Tons of people play video games without ever following those streamers, but the streamers are becoming ever more popular with younger men.
Part of the problem is we have 3 gens of men (X, Mil, Z) who have never been taught emotional awareness, and 3 gens of women who demand emotional awareness.
Part is the same men steeped in toxic masculinity, plus a cultural left that fails to replace toxic masc. in maleness.
Boomer here. I have a hard time understanding this. Men aren't being criticized for being firefighters or loggers. They are being criticized for being sexual predators or assholes. In the sixties public behavior like that wouldn't have been tolerated either. Of course in private, it was fine 😖.
Politicians have taken away our body autonomy. SAVE is female voter suppression. Do we go back in time giving men complete control? Women are trained to give in. Maybe men should think about how to be better partners instead of trying to control women? It’s called evolving. It’s not easy.
I think a big problem is, many people have been sold a false narrative that life should be easy and fun. It just isn't!
For anyone.
It never has been.
Life is about finding the joy and tranquility in a sea of nonsense.
It's all too easy to tell people "this *insert group* has made your life suck".
When you think about cultural rituals that signal "manhood" we've lost quite a few. They were never really replaced properly. We're seeing a reflection of social media on a grand scale.
Excellent point. It's reminiscent of the popularity of gaming as a replacement for ambition and dating /courtship, young men have little to no natural sense of challenge and achieving goals in this techno-dystopia
i dont think there are any positive rituals of manhood that are unique to men though. so it feels like less an issue of boys not having positive role models so much as society associating anything non manhood as being less human
There's a hyper masculinity trend happening at the moment. We seem to have forgotten what a man is supposed to be on a sense. The world is changing fast.
Yep, that’s the bottom line. Men want to control. The 1950s were the golden era for men. A big part of the toxic MAGA movement is telling men there’s no need to evolve. Women are to blame.
Gen-X man here. The dumpster 🔥 is the utmost worst leader, father, man, and person to be POTUS and even worse, getting a 2nd term. He and his onsipid band of fools & thugs have upended 80 years of a rules-based world order, millions of people's lives, and the Republic for which it stands.
The Free Press had this entire article on “young Trump voters” not regretting their vote but almost every single person interviewed was male, which was not unpacked at all.
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned ... determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all other Persons"👀
Gen Jones here who is profoundly disappointed in my Gen-X/ Boomer bookends that have sold out to fascist ideals. I look at childhood friends and think, "what the F--k happened to these people?"
Because GenX is full nihilist thanks to their shared generational traumas. And that nihilism has split GenX in two: The "Woodstock '94" types that like to make stuff and be left alone, and the "Woodstock '99" crowd that likes to be racist edgelords that rape women and burn shit down for no reason.
I've noticed for a long time that, on average, my generation are selfish assholes compared to the younger ones. It's probably the unparented, fend-for-yourself upbringing.
As an elder Gen X I agree. Though it didn’t start that way. Not sure what happened to my peers. My views have evolved toward acceptance and empathy. So many in my generation seem to have taken the opposite path.
I just looked it up and leaded gasoline wasn’t banned in Canada until 1990?!?? I remember leaded gasoline, but I thought it was banned much earlier. Another example of governemnt caving to industry. “We know it’s hurting kids, but we need to give 25 years for industry to adjust”. 😞
Like, the hypothesis that lead poisoning greatly contributed to the collapse of Ancient Rome is not about Romans being physically weakened or something, it’s about the psychological effects of the poisoning making it impossible to maintain the institutions, norms, and infrastructure.
We are considered so solidly a red leaning voting block the right doesn’t even bother to campaign/market to us. Sometimes I think back to the past and it’s not that surprising anymore. Should’ve seen it coming but alas.
People born in the 60’s & early 70’s have been way to the right of people born in the ‘40s & ‘50s since the ‘84 election. Coupland should have called them GenSuX!
social security should be the test, DOGE is messing with it and the retirement age is planned to be raised (for Gen X and after).
Bull markets come and go, and it's good to contribute to a 401k or whatever. But Social Security is the bedrock, if everything else fails.
Yall need to use critical thinking when looking at these polls. Have you EVER taken a poll? Now take that answer and think about 25 people you know. Have they ever taken one? Likely not. The people they poll are people that poll. These are almost never a reflection of what they say.
One of the fields has a 7% difference. The others are 9% and 13%. I’m disgusted with my generation (X), but there’s no need to misrepresent the numbers.
Ultimately it feels weird to say a demographic is cooked because 56% support evil.
However this other demographic is all good because only 43% support evil.
If the numbers against outright fascism aren't in the 20's were aren't doing okay.
7/9% feels a bit like splitting hairs. I will cede the 13% warranted a separate mention.
If you compared the numbers internally. Say your problematic field is 56% of participants and action x reduces that number to 43% would you consider that problem solved?
I’ve been thinking about the Gen X thing a lot lately.
As a Gen X’er myself, I spent the last few decades proud of being part of what I saw as each successive generation aging in a way which seemed healthier than the ones prior.
I now see Gen X aging in a decidedly unhealthy and disturbing way.
While Gen X and Boomers certainly seem to actually want what MAGA is selling, there is detachment from reality evident in the way Trump supporters talk about him.
I feel like this is partially due to Gen X relative denial of and failure to cope with the aging of our parents and ourselves.
Considering how much Gen X was tech support for the boomers, rebooting their routers, fixing their printers, teaching them not to TEXT IN ALL CAPS... you'd think there would be more resentment. And yet, there is deferment and a desire to be toadies to a bully. I don't get it.
I keep thinking about this. I know I was told repeatedly that my life should be a 90s beer commercial, but I didn't decide to smash the world because it didn't turn out that way. Why have so many of my brethren chosen the dark side!
I hate the fact that he is so popular with guys in my generation. Wish it were different. Part of it I think comes from our training to humor and defer to the loudest guy with dementia.
Gen X was uniquely positioned to be poisoned during our developmental years by the Reagan era celebrity culture which ultimately made something like Donald Trump possible.
That helps explain even if it doesn’t excuse the Gen X relative positivity and even reverence for Trump.
I doubt it's that explanatory because the shift in racial composition is way less extreme than the shift in politics. I think phones are much more of it
Men are selfish &/or ignorant. It isn’t affecting White Men so they do not give a 💩. So many people in rural areas are in the dark completely about politics. They only plug into the “mean & funny digs from Trump”. They like him act as if this is a tv show rather then real life fallout. It’s time….
I’m embarrassed for my generation. I’ve seen people my age around me get sucked into the Trump vortex. Mid life crisis seems to be a vulnerable moment to “red pill”, while it’s really just ordinary men realizing they are failing at their teenage dreams and throwing a Hail Mary… PATHETIC
Same old dumb macho patriarchal bullshit but it takes 2 to tango. The women's movement has all but failed. You failed to get Row v Wade codified, you failed to get equal wages and equal opportunities and you failed to get equal representation. Baby Girl had a vital message - you better wise up fast!
They were slowly losing their advantages & status from systemic bigotry & the Right has been promising to give it back to them since desegregation. Since Trump is allowed to do whatever he & his handlers want, he's their guy.
Cult mentality is not normal psychology. Just because they disapprove of what he's doing, doesn't mean they don't support him (the man). He'll always have their support.
Opposition needs to come from mysogynists (who didnt want a female president) and the wealthy (who didn't want to pay taxes).
exactly. most people just want to get by and survive, which means that the vibes matter a great deal. if he is perceived as popular and strong, then the opposition reflects that.
For me it ended when he called Mexicans rapists and criminals. I hadn't heard about his interview until after that and I thought for sure after mocking the reporter with special needs and the Mexican comments, it was over. Was naive about the racism in the USA
The best way to remove tRump and company from our government is peacefully perform a general strike beginning 5/1 for as many weeks as possible. Stop everything indefinitely. He is moving way too fast for protests alone to work. We only stop the strike when he, vAnts and jOhnson have resigned!
They're not doing the right thing they just realised after voting for the leopards eating faces party that they have a face too
They still want the leopards to eat those " other" faces
It also matters because they’ve spent years training Pavlov’s pumpkin to double down when he pisses them off so they’ll come running back.
Especially now that he’s been humiliated in Rome in front of (and by) the leaders of the world. Maybe he can get Bobby Jr to puree chicks on Sesame Street.
The right thing for the wrong reasons is still the right thing. But I will never let my Reps Fetterman, McCormick and Scott Perry try to say they did it for us. You shouldn’t let yours either. They all need to be gone at the first opportunity. Nobody is a bigger disappointment than Fetterman.
What the Democrats need now is something like the contract with America from the GOP 94 campaign. They need to lay out in bullet points what they would do if they had power
Support Ukraine as much as possible until Putin is defeated
Deport all criminal immigrants, but protect families of all kinds
Well yes. But he’s making himself unpopular by illegally seizing complete control of all the levers of Government. At some point along that path the only way to remove him from Government will be a revolution.
The problem is it changes nothing. Another GOP sociopath could repeat everything he said during his election & Americans will think that person "tells it like it is".
Tbh this is why i do not necessarily think it is good advice to be something other than antitrump in this moment, as ppl like Katy Tur, Kasie Hunt insist during each election cycle.
They want to get rid of this guy while he is antitrump, UNTIL we give them different stances for rw media to target.
I can't agree. Even in the event of cancelled elections, reduced popular support means fewer defenders for the regime. That could mean the difference between a clean ouster and outright civil war.
Anything that demoralizes and stands down Trumpists is our friend.
Yes, good to have more people on record opposing them, but there will be no clean ouster because Nazis don’t leave quietly. He didn’t leave quietly the last time, and he’s got far more support within the bureaucracy this time, by design.
Sure, there'll be bullshit. But these people are all soft. Most of them are chubby billionaires and the tough guy defense secretary has a makeup studio ffs.
They're nothing without their meat shield. Make that walk away and they'll all shit their pants.
Cmon Molly, there will be no opposition. The men and women in Congress and Senate won’t jeopardize their ability to become millionaires from insider trading. Nothing matters more than money
So I'm relieved that support for Trump is dropping, as it indicates maybe fewer Americans than we thought are total sociopaths. But Trump's entire life he has been forcing himself on people, and is he going to care about his popularity if he has levers to stay in power no matter what?
Surely the Republicans in Congress can see how this ends, with Trump’s tanking popularity weighing down on their own numbers—are they ready to start pushing back?
The other thing to know is that the Republican Party intentionally seeks out and runs candidates who are like blank slates - they aren’t intelligent, they don’t have any ethics, they just do what they’re told. Bonus if they look interesting on TV and have a lot of unearned/inherited wealth.
No. There are only two kinds of Republican elected officials. They’re either 100% on board with fascism or they are 100% compromised. These people have no intention whatsoever to uphold the oaths they took. Voters are way too uninformed and ignorant to know better or vote in their own interests.
for their crimes, too, just like Pres Muskrat, VP Felon34, and anyone else who's willingly working in this regime (ICE, etc.).
And honestly, at this point, if any of them were to suddenly 'see the light' I wouldn't trust them any further than I could throw them!
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You’re assuming we have free and fair elections that enough eligible citizens are allowed to vote in. I don’t have confidence that that assumption will come true. SAVE Act, control of the FEC, Weasel Odor’s DOGGY minions, etc.
If people who continue to vote against their interest stop and start to wonder out loud, ‘what the hell is going on here?!’, there is no downside. I’d happily wish people the day they voted for, but my life long term will be better if they see this and course correct.
Again with the polls... Trumper's do not answer polls and those that do, are not honest about what they believe. The only way to know how popular Trump is, is through actual elections. We need to focus on getting people out to vote for Democrats at any cost. We need to win. Persuade don't poll.
Also, the more it’s reported on, the more he sees it, the crazier and stupider he becomes. That said, it really is Miller, Vought, Homan, Bondi and crew we need to keep our eyes on…but I love it when he melts down.
It's a race to madness. The more his disapproval increases, the more he unleashes the far right lunatics around him to do even more crazy, morally disgusting acts to help him keep his power.
The authoritarian's bargain is that you have to deliver some measure of success. Popular support is important early on, at least not popular opposition.
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Correct. A lot of politics is holding a finger up to the wind first and then being reactive to those forces. More following than leading. It’s not exactly bravery. It is what it is.
The opposition to Trump will come slowly, then all at once.
PERSONAL PAIN is what changes the mind of selfish, narcissistic, cruel, Bigoted people. Their "god" will be delivering the pain. Make them suffer, and spare Decent WOKE folk. Good people will help good people survive. WE ARE DEMOCRATS, NOT REPUBLICANS.
The frightful evil and DERP were of course there to be seen since when; only now the zeitgeist has once again found that any real and true eyeful of it is ALSO a bloody gut full.
Yes but until the House GOP and Senate wake up or has a come to Jesus moment it doesn’t matter. Keeping the descent up is needed and is working as are all the court cases but the orange menace and his henchmen are moving so fast and disregarding the courts that the level of damage might be too late!
MAGA leaning podcasts and many non-discerning people who view Foxnews as the truth, many people who don't understand that facts can be easily swayed. Facts have been researched, confirmed, or debunked. As MAGAs realize Trump is misleading them, some will leave his thrall.
And because no matter what he says, he *really* cares about the polls and #wwfww.
He has backtracked on so many things bc they got a bad reaction that it would be pretty damn funny if so much damage, some of it irreparable, hadn't been done
It's the circle of life: the more opposition to him, the worse his polls get. Eventually the low numbers, sadly the only data he registers, make him fold like an origami card table.
I would like to see the end of Trump but if he resigns then Vance will step in. Then I wonder if this was the Project 2025 plan all along. Manchurian candidate conspiracy theory thought of the day.
Yes, and no one is afraid of JD Vance. He doesn’t have the cult in his pocket. With him, the GOP will suddenly grow back their spines and their “every man for himself!” philosophy. Only Trump and his crazy cult scare them.
I think Vance is fully invested in Opus Dei and Project 2025. The ages old secret society rooted in Roman Catholicism wants to control society, especially women. Opus Dei is behind Project 2025.
Remember, MILLIONS voted for him & didn't give a fu¢k that he was a convicted (34x) felon, lied constantly & had misogynistic, racist, downright unconstitutional plans. They'll follow him straight over the cliff to dictatorship happily
When he gets down in the 35% range in a few weeks, will the republicans in the House and Senate keep doing his bidding? Because a 35% president loses their elections for them.
We've been waiting so long for the tide to turn, for the fever to break. I hope we are near the tipping point. I do think it will happen, and it's gonna be fierce. May we soon have a hard time finding anyone who will admit to voting for him, and may those who did declare what a mistake it was.
dems really need to start sticking together and blocking everything so the republicans that want to vote against him that are in the minority (and are fearful 🙄) know they can at least depend on us to block
talking to you schumer & that little gaggle of dem dipshits trying to "get along"
But there’s still that pesky Reich Wing Propaganda Networks of Subversive UN American Disinformation. They are experts on hypnotic manipulation. Turning people into Brainwashed cult members. Just what the Republican establishment wants for the past 4 decades. Since Reagan made it possible.
There are unfortunately lots of people willing to support an authoritarian.
But only when they’re winning - that’s the whole point, to crush your enemies. A losing authoritarian is just a dime-a-dozen ranting fool, and every fight Trump loses will diminish his support.
MAGA may be anti-democracy, and want to claim to be a persecuted minority, but they also want to believe themselves to be a vast majority, hence his exaggerating his support. So in the end they try to ignore the folks they don't like, and consider it fair game to suppress their voting.
We're turning a corner and it's a good thing to acknowledge. We're collectively realizing that it's us against them, not us against each other. This is strong propaganda we're dealing with here folks. 1/3 of our nation has been brainwashed.
They stick with the racism and hate until their lives become negatively effected by his horrible economic policy. Unfortunately one doesn't necessarily effect the other.
it's correct to a degree. some people have a natural tendency to want to follow the masses. however, it won't work for the brainlessly rebellious. i think we should shower favoritism towards a political figure that we like though. good publicity, bad publicity, rn it's only frump dominating the news
Uninformed Americas still like to win even if they don’t want to put effort into it. Check out the bet volume for the favorite at the Kentucky Derby. So yea, it counts.
And approval # will plummet so very soon, empty shelves & sky-high prices are due within 2-3 weeks. #democrats @housedemocrats.bsky.social should prepare to lead a nationwide protest movement, plus a plan for worst case "martial law". Because the latter WILL happen, eg to stop the midterms!!
That 11% saying that prices are going down are delusional, those will be the people willing to go down with the ship before admitting they’ve made a mistake.
I hope you are correct on this but nothing, no matter how horrific, has seemed to impact his
base.
I have hope that those who were in thrall to anything that would usher money into their pockets might be getting a little antsy now that he is tanking the economy and (gasp!) decreasing their wealth. 🤞
Amen, especially on the moral grounds … the fact it’s taken so long is a great indication of material problem with our society … I genuinely believe technology is a big part of it and do believe we are in a recession like we haven’t seen since the Great Depression .. in old photos you’d see …
.. hundreds of people inline for a job, today it’s hidden by technology … there’s a material problem and I’m not sure anyone sees it or even notices that there is one
This is a true statement if the polls were actually accurate.Who responds to a poll from a left leaning org? Who responds to a poll from a right leaning org? The days of polls being meaningful beacons of info are over. We saw that in the last 2 Prez elections.
It is worth noting
The Mckindley Tariffs Act Republicans lost 50 percent of their seats in the house in the next election.
Smott Hawley Tariff Act Republicans lost both the house & the senate
Oppression begins as soon as our resistance ends! They want us to get tired and accept what is happening to our freedom & end democracy. We can not stop making our opposition heard!! Contact your Republican representatives & demand they support judges & the LAW or demand their resignations
While I agree theoretically, there are not enough members of Congress, especially Repugs, that will do what they know they should do. Hence, the destruction of our country continues.
Inciting an insurrection?
So what?!
Firing thousands of Americans?
Not me!
Disappearing immigrants?
OK.
Your shit is gonna cost more...
Suddenly, I'm feeling woke. #MAGA
Paying for the social media app owned by the nazi Elon Musk while making points about moral grounds and doing the right thing... Now we gotta bully you into doing the right thing.
The opposition is good but we have to find ways to sustain it and grow it because the RW propaganda machinery will chip away at it incessantly. Remember that on 1/7 virtually everyone, even Lindsey Graham, was “done with Trump”. 4 years of gaslighting and he’s back in the White House, and /1
Yes, I've seen a lot of liberals become fatalistic and say polls (and just about everything else) don't matter. But last time he became wildly unpopular quite a few Republican politicians turned on him. Things are bad but I don't think giving up all hope right now is helpful.
This isn't about following the others, this is about being angry about what he is doing to our country and your desire to let it be known that you are not happy. Following the others is a MAGA trait that we say we hate about them.
This seems like wishful thinking. The public doesn’t watch polls to determine whether to oppose Trump & Dem politicians are just as likely to read polls incorrectly or get lazy thinking Trump’s imploding as they are to take advantage. And Republicans only care about how he polls in their districts.
What will really matter is when Republican congressmen no longer fear being primaried by someone he picks and start listening to their constituents again.
It was going to take this horrific pain, chaos, and mismanagement that we are seeing to finally wake up all non-MAGA folks and start the beginning of the end to this MAGA mess. It had to be this bad. Looking down the road, as Revere might say "the midterms are coming."
This may be one of the first times I've been ahead of the cool crowd. The other was when I predicted Rey was a Palpatine in Star Wars in 2017. May e I'm just highly aware of conquering emperors.
Misogyny alive and well in the USA. CALL AND EMAIL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES DAILY AND DEMAND THEY HONOR THEIR OATHS TO THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAW.DEMAND THEY IMPEACH REMOVE AND PROSECUTE TRUMP AND HIS CABINET
But so you realize every single post still claims that anywhere between 41 and 49% approve of him? I still don’t see a shift in those polls at all! I don’t know what people are talking about. This would be correct if we saw that only 20% approve. Or 16% but 45% 🤦♀️
Yep. This country is over. Democracy has ended. Our people are way too ignorant to have a government that serves the people. They threw it away. This country is an awful, shameful place full of abjectly ignorant people who could not critical think their ways out of a paper bag.
Unfortunately MAGA will only consider doing the right thing WHEN & IF it effects their life, pocketbook, personally NOT on any moral grounds, or any harm he’s doing to the “other” or destroying the Constitution.
Too late. Don’t you find it odd that he never comments on the protests? Never. Popularity does not matter to him and his minions because they don’t plan on leaving. He will solidify this in advance of midterms which will then not happen. Soon there will be nobody to remove him. #AmericaBlinked
It also enhances the likelihood he will orchestrate a Reichstag fire situation to solidify support. By June we will be “attacked” the same way he had an “assassination attempt” on him.
I'm not particularly thrilled about my 401(k) getting tanked, but if that is the price required for people to oppose fascists, it is a pittance I will happily pay.
Absolutely bad faith actors. Not so true of the normie people out there. The extremists are in government. Most Republican voters are not extremists. Their party has been hijacked by nefarious forces. Republican party is dead. We need all rational people to unite. Fights on policy can come later.
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They are not
I’d be concerned about an approval in the teens for this POS, much less the forties.
no
they are not
So embarrassing
So stupid
Between not wanting to be tethered to the kind of asshole who embraces this and not wanting to bring daughters into the world to face these creeps, answer seems clear
https://bsky.app/profile/kebe.com/post/3lnsnjot5qs2m
I mean the men in this survey that are still pro MAGA.
Just a sea of guys unwilling to change and evolve in any way. Combined with a stunning lack of intellectual curiosity.
Among millions of voters, that's likely true in some cases, but the vast majority of Trumpers I know are middle and lower middle class laborers.
He's tapped into a vein of grievance and resentment within them, those who think they're entitled to privilege.
Trumps best support is $50-100k. He gets very close to half the wealthier segments. Those folks aren’t hurting.
For that matter, my wife would 100% do the same.
Honestly, I am looking for someone to teach me something. Hopefully an intellectual equal in a different field.
And all are happily married.
So I'll stay single for now.
i never knew that we were a country eunuchs.
Meaning people could answer how they really feel without fear of repercussions from their peers
HAHAHAHAHAHA
They think Joe Rogan, the Tate Brothers, and all the rest of the MAGA clowns are going to get them dates
Now, they're all in their local Incel Chapters, and they can't figure out why...
In the old days, we used to just call them "losers"
licking and meanness are in the definition then nothing is wrong. Right on target.
https://bsky.app/profile/kebe.com/post/3lnsnjot5qs2m
That's the opposite of women in case you didn't know
I am ashamed that you are against the democratic process
Crying about trump support makes you sound like a milineal
You have no excuse. We were made to take civics and government
I'm pretty sure I understand democracy , but if you would like to debate it learn so.e manners
https://bsky.app/profile/kebe.com/post/3lnsnjot5qs2m
The worst, undoubtedly, were GenX male Smashing Pumpkins fans. Just the meanest, trolliest, most nihilistic online chuds in the game.
Dudes been real angry about something for a real long time.
#RESISTANCEISBEAUTIFUL!!!🌹
My relatives had lied to me about him, saying he wasn’t that bad and people were overreacting
I believe his unfavorable is greater then what they are showing
I have no data to prove this
Maybe delusional wishful thinking
They should much lower then what we are seeing
But the tend is good news
But again: the gen z divide is a real problem.
I think the answer that men are atrocious in reading comprehension and listening skills.
Existing as a man in a patriarchy is easier, and I think it makes a lot of men smooth brained.
they find solace in not having to deal with it all and direct it at others.
The deal is we are by and large a generation of broken men. And so are the Millenials. And so are Gen Z.
3 whole generations of totally broken men are alive right now.
I would bet all of that support (almost) is white women, too.
They have seen their male peers corrupted by the manosphere.
Young men are voting conservative in larger than ever numbers in this election.
Combine that with the vaccine-averse parents and the people who are STILL pissed off they could not board a plane without a vaccine 3-4 years ago, and tomorrow could be scary . . . .
7% is not a big difference is the thing
College $ = 10-20x
Yall know the list
So there’s older folk who are out of touch & don’t care as it doesn’t affect them-
The 70+ sell their homes w 0 updates - cashing out. Thats their reality.
Not all of us are idiots
(However most are, which would explain why most my friends are girls)
A lot of mismatched sexual expressions going on as well, as people open up and discover who they are and how they relate.
LOLOL
There's no such thing as an intelligent fascist
Don't underestimate the fascist opponents.
Those numbers mean once the asshole GenXers are gone, the base of the party goes with it.
As a Genxer, it's embarrassing to realize that the "iconoclastic" description we embraced is just old fashioned assholery.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna201071
2 wrongs don’t make a right
?
Part is the same men steeped in toxic masculinity, plus a cultural left that fails to replace toxic masc. in maleness.
For anyone.
It never has been.
Life is about finding the joy and tranquility in a sea of nonsense.
It's all too easy to tell people "this *insert group* has made your life suck".
What is going on with women jumping on the trad wife train?
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned ... determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all other Persons"👀
Even the boomers had culturally influential idealistic dreams of a better world in their teens and 20’s.
Bull markets come and go, and it's good to contribute to a 401k or whatever. But Social Security is the bedrock, if everything else fails.
Gen Z women are the only ones okay according to this graphic.
However this other demographic is all good because only 43% support evil.
If the numbers against outright fascism aren't in the 20's were aren't doing okay.
If you compared the numbers internally. Say your problematic field is 56% of participants and action x reduces that number to 43% would you consider that problem solved?
As a Gen X’er myself, I spent the last few decades proud of being part of what I saw as each successive generation aging in a way which seemed healthier than the ones prior.
I now see Gen X aging in a decidedly unhealthy and disturbing way.
I feel like this is partially due to Gen X relative denial of and failure to cope with the aging of our parents and ourselves.
How is it that Trump supporters don’t see or note that? It’s like they still need to believe that daddy is okay and healthy and strong.
They also want daddy to be a strongman, it seems.
That helps explain even if it doesn’t excuse the Gen X relative positivity and even reverence for Trump.
They voluntarily render themselves inadequate & irrelevant, then get mad because they are irrelevant & are frustrated bc of themselves.
Something like 35% of 18-35 yo white 🇺🇸 men don’t work.
I can understand Boomers because they think they're getting exactly what they wanted.
Gen X (my generation) I don't get. I think it's confusion picking a side.
Opposition needs to come from mysogynists (who didnt want a female president) and the wealthy (who didn't want to pay taxes).
They will not abandon their Jesus.
He dodged falling stage lights faster than Bush dodged a shoe.
He balanced the budget without angering China or Russia .
https://generalstrikeus.com/
They still want the leopards to eat those " other" faces
Especially now that he’s been humiliated in Rome in front of (and by) the leaders of the world. Maybe he can get Bobby Jr to puree chicks on Sesame Street.
Support Ukraine as much as possible until Putin is defeated
Deport all criminal immigrants, but protect families of all kinds
They want to get rid of this guy while he is antitrump, UNTIL we give them different stances for rw media to target.
Anything that demoralizes and stands down Trumpists is our friend.
They're nothing without their meat shield. Make that walk away and they'll all shit their pants.
I don’t think that the 1% need to care about us as much anymore, or they would be minding how their “sanitization” (democide) looks.
https://demodirge.substack.com/p/is-voting-a-veneer-is-americas-democracy?r=9gmmo
People really need to stop denying the reality that this IS who the GOP has always been and that they WANTED this, worked for it.
They're complicit and need to be arrested, held responsible
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And honestly, at this point, if any of them were to suddenly 'see the light' I wouldn't trust them any further than I could throw them!
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Please repost far and wide. There is no time to waste. Let’s get this going.
Occupy Washington 👇
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-- Sex Offender!
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-- Convicted Felon!
On ALL 34 Felony Counts.
-- Convict!
Whether Incarcerated Or Not.
ALL Of These Are Permanent!
The steps to a real DEMOCRACY!
Exposure + Motivation + Coalition building + Revolution
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Motivation: a way to motivate
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The opposition to Trump will come slowly, then all at once.
The frightful evil and DERP were of course there to be seen since when; only now the zeitgeist has once again found that any real and true eyeful of it is ALSO a bloody gut full.
Check out the snark I penned on 1/21/2025. It’s a tiny bit prescient IMHO
https://open.substack.com/pub/noelkeith/p/tranquil-piece-of-mind-vol-1-no-4?r=4c7psw&utm_medium=ios
Millions must go to DC now & stay until Trump & MAGAts breaking the Constitution are arrested
The assessment is accurate.
He has backtracked on so many things bc they got a bad reaction that it would be pretty damn funny if so much damage, some of it irreparable, hadn't been done
They are too isolated from reality to see how Trump's bad policies affect them.
They believe everything they are told without any background checks.
Might have something to do with the soros owned judges using unconstitutional authority to affect the entire country
she only rated a plot next to the Practice Putting Green
talking to you schumer & that little gaggle of dem dipshits trying to "get along"
We need the GOP Congress to grow a spine and they're SO afraid of him...but if he doesn't have broad support, they should think again.
But only when they’re winning - that’s the whole point, to crush your enemies. A losing authoritarian is just a dime-a-dozen ranting fool, and every fight Trump loses will diminish his support.
Cory Booker and Hakeem Jeffries Live on the steps of the Capitol
they are encouraging Americans to show up
#generalstrikeUS
https://www.youtube.com/live/5ceR90lihX8?si=9viJxQU3ZUV3-UN3
They see all his bad polling too which is why we also need to hear what is going on in Mississippi and North Carolina.
base.
I have hope that those who were in thrall to anything that would usher money into their pockets might be getting a little antsy now that he is tanking the economy and (gasp!) decreasing their wealth. 🤞
Fighting back economically is best.
The Mckindley Tariffs Act Republicans lost 50 percent of their seats in the house in the next election.
Smott Hawley Tariff Act Republicans lost both the house & the senate
Trump makes that easier a little bit every day.
How many Americans hate trump ????
So what?!
Firing thousands of Americans?
Not me!
Disappearing immigrants?
OK.
Your shit is gonna cost more...
Suddenly, I'm feeling woke. #MAGA
Remove the hat and the hate disappears.
Those Mario bros games have us too obsessed with fashion and anti-trans gate-keeping.
Jeremiah 14:14
https://books.google.com/books?id=u30ch879gRUC&pg=PA58&dq=trump&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBmoVChMIm-CWzI-dxwIVUzCICh2VcABQ#v=onepage&q=trump&f=false
Show me I’m wrong.
All of his underlings, however…
First, get the swifties to the protests. The boys will follow.