sure, but are we gonna listen to this guy or half a dozen center-right millionaires who make a living writing one short column a week - ThreadSky

notalawyer.bsky.social • 107 days ago

sure, but are we gonna listen to this guy or half a dozen center-right millionaires who make a living writing one short column a week

Reposted from Erin Reed

Governor Andy Beshear, in a Trump +30 state, gives advice to Democrats: Do not throw LGBTQ+ people under the bus, it will not work.

His advice to dems: Lead on your values.

This man ran on a fully inclusive campaign in 2023 and won. He received the same kind of ads Harris did.

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mayorslayerr.bsky.social•107 days ago

YES! let’s instead listen to a unicorn blue state governor who’s only reason he’s survived is because his father is beloved. i swear the christ am i the only one who opens fucking wikipedia or believes in nuanced answers. but sure let’s retweet “THIS 👇” and pretend we found the silver bullet

mayorslayerr.bsky.social•107 days ago

but also protect trans people and let’s not turn our back on them 🏳️‍⚧️

blacktom.bsky.social•107 days ago

Almost all my followers live in Kentucky and I live 40 minutes from Kentucky. His father isn't why he won reelection although it is what reoublicans like to claim. I'm not saying his way is a silver bullet but he is genuinely loved and respected in Kentucky.

mayorslayerr.bsky.social•107 days ago

I just don't think he would have had the platform to garner that love or respect without his last name. There's a baked in goodwill with name recognition that does not translate across state lines here.

blacktom.bsky.social•107 days ago

I agree his name helped him win the first time. But his actions have meant a lot. I'm an atheist but it's refreshing seeing a devout Christian actually living those values. I don't think it translates well because most politicians don't come across as real. Andy does.

mayorslayerr.bsky.social•107 days ago

i agree with all of that. i mean i really like the guy. i just don’t like the trap of saying “this one guy has the answer” it’s more complex than that IMO. know what i mean?

blacktom.bsky.social•107 days ago

I agree 💯. We definitely can't fall into that trap. Everyone wants an easy way out when there isn't one.

buchschmiedin.bsky.social•106 days ago

For every time you depress us with a correct but horrific take, you owe the timeline a picture of Cosmo

michaelakellar.bsky.social•106 days ago

📌

dianamc.bsky.social•106 days ago

I’ve accepted it’s gotta be a white man.
There. I said it. I hate it, but I stand by that.
“Winning is everything”

mpjohnson.bsky.social•107 days ago

Okay but I hear this with Michael laughing in the background and I need to know his follow up line

nancy7983.bsky.social•106 days ago

No, he is the real deal, at least the realist of many Dems

craig-erik.bsky.social•107 days ago

The gist of that essay seems to be “do good things Democrats and it’ll work itself out.” Nonsense. Biden did loads of great things. But our information environment is poisoned. And he got almost no credit for them.

recordofthetime.bsky.social•107 days ago

well, iirc Beshear has been really good at communicating with people, during covid he would have weekly press conferences that seemed very much in the fireside chat style.

kansasblueblood.bsky.social•107 days ago

This. Once we started getting results from his policies, Biden was too far into decline to really sell them and Harris seemed not to know how (nor was she interested). Imagine if since 22 the communication from the VP was touting union growth and how their policy was helping avg ppl each week

webbl59.bsky.social•106 days ago

Biden worked hard to get as much done as he could for lower & middle class citizens. How many Seniors knew that there is a $2000 out-of-pocket max for prescriptions in 2025 for Medicare recipients? My sister didn't. He wasn't selling his accomplishments& how many ppl will think Trump did it?

oworthyfool.bsky.social•107 days ago

Thank goodness for my governor, honestly.

thankyoutedwilkins.bsky.social•107 days ago

THANK FUCKING YOU ANDY FUCKING BASHEAR.

vmcf.bsky.social•107 days ago

NC Dems have been committed to trans rights and fought back against shitty laws against trans kids, didn’t hurt them one bit!

mathbarbeau.bsky.social•106 days ago

Bty, living by its values is exactly what Trump is doing and people by it...

rockcelery.bsky.social•107 days ago

Hey, be fair—some of the millionaires consult on losing campaigns once every four years

teddylj.bsky.social•106 days ago

Someone get James Carville out of here!

amuendelheim.bsky.social•107 days ago

The Purpose Of the System Is What It Does

guspowers.bsky.social•107 days ago

It's funny the difference between what democrats who win red areas say compared to the ones who assumed they'd be able to win red areas.

fireeyes.bsky.social•107 days ago

simple way for Dems to win, not exactly JUSTIFIED, but truth, a man! still USA not ready for a woman :( I love women, some I have as best friends.

martyolliff.bsky.social•106 days ago

We already know the answer.

laurarbelin.bsky.social•107 days ago

Andy Beshear was the keynote speaker at the Iowa Democratic Party's big summer fundraiser and this was a key part of his message.
(Republicans have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on anti-trans ads against Democrats running for the Iowa legislature.)

prodigypaul.bsky.social•107 days ago

I take Andy everyday he’s the closest person to sticking to the FDR style of democratic we need to return to. Instead of the neoliberalism that’s blend to Reaganism love of corporations…which had caused this doom spiral of wealth inequality from trickle down economics.

edgeoforever.bsky.social•107 days ago

“We” Democrats have to live our values or perish. Anyone who speaks against civil rights is no democrat. Period.

2dognight.bsky.social•106 days ago

As a Kentuckian who listened to his COVID briefings* daily during the pandemic, I suggest we listen to Andy.
He is honest, hardworking, compassionate and innovative.

2dognight.bsky.social•106 days ago

People started calling his afternoon briefings “Beshear’s Happy Hour.”
Even though everything was awful, his enthusiasm kept us going.

drdietcoke.bsky.social•107 days ago

Ahh but consider having no strong opinions and appealing to a hypothetical centrist population who doesnt want anything in particular from their elected officials.

damnvanguard.bsky.social•106 days ago

Not sure who the other five are, but Matt Yglesias is not center-right in any meaningful way that any sane person would recognize.

mikaelaskyesays.bsky.social•107 days ago

The democratic establishment will listen to the millionaires

crowlover.bsky.social•106 days ago

I'd listen to Andy. Our state is nauseatingly red....and I don't think dems are going to throw anyone under the bus that doesn't deserve to be there.

ofwp.bsky.social•107 days ago

Dems, Please Stop Winning in Places You're Not Supposed to By Advocating for Policies I've Decided are Unpopular

- David Brooks

dharmachameleon.bsky.social•106 days ago

Has a blue Supreme Court majority now. Listen to the people in the trenches not the Commentariat seven leagues away.

smartfeller.bsky.social•107 days ago

yes but this millionaire is tapped into the beating heart of liberal support: kentuckians

david.uncensored.zip•107 days ago

we don't listen to dems who win elections, only the consultants that never win

brettac1.bsky.social•107 days ago

I study election theory. Not election results.

webbl59.bsky.social•106 days ago

How many Trump ads did I see attacking Harris for her transgender support..like there are thousands of transgender men playing in women's sports, when the actual percentage is like .01%. Maybe DEMs need to learn to LIE better.

webbl59.bsky.social•106 days ago

Please remember that Beshears is a MALE & let's face it, how many Latino & white men were NOT going to vote for a woman for president no matter WHAT her messaging was! And well...there's the price for a doz eggs that Biden could control 🙄

coryschmidt.bsky.social•107 days ago

petestaiano.com•107 days ago

Hmmm, I think it’s better if we just wait for Peggy Noonan

jrod49.bsky.social•107 days ago

Send the memo to Carville, please. “Identity politics“ seems to bother him.

nkb121.bsky.social•107 days ago

My main policy prescription for Dems is to make the tent just small enough to exclude Matt Yglesias. The benefits are many, the drawbacks are none.

08mms.bsky.social•106 days ago

As I understand it from his former Vox colleagues, all we have to do is exclude people who don’t wash their hands after going to the bathroom. This also could serve to keep out the crazy new SecDef too.

djweedpizza.gobirds.online•107 days ago

MSNBC should just make a show called “Milquetoast” and have them all agree with each other. Claire McCaskill can host it.

cliffschecter.bsky.social•106 days ago

Is there anywhere else to find this besides the Times? Or could you copy/paste here?

Unsubbed yrs ago for reasons I bet you can guess

tstudts.bsky.social•106 days ago

Try 12ft.io

katelynburns.com•107 days ago

Do you really think they make a million

ashmcgonigal.com•107 days ago

I don't think they *make* that much but when I read their bios, my privileged upbringing starts looking Dickensian.

thegoddamn.icu•107 days ago

if i had a million dollars i would already be offline painting bad watercolors and analyzing really old games of chess, almost nobody is getting rich from writing text. i doubt any of the nyt opinion writrrs are getting more than 70k a year

katelynburns.com•107 days ago

Theyre definitely getting more than that

rsquared.bsky.social•107 days ago

They're net-worth millionaires at least

emptyjetseatbribes.bsky.social•106 days ago

Matt yglesias definitely does

notalawyer.bsky.social•106 days ago

i have no inside info, but my guess is the top tier earns low-mid 6 figures, then you factor in speaking gigs, book deals, etc. and some of them are easily clearing a mil

yateslaw.bsky.social•107 days ago

I've been listening to 5-4 long enough that I can hear this shit in your voice.
Guess I'll go sign up at patreon.
It's only fair.

statelake.bsky.social•107 days ago

IMO it’s very worth it. I like the Patreon episodes better because they tend to go over movements rather than individual court cases like they do in the free episodes.

bug-deal.bsky.social•107 days ago

remember when you said that one columnist's critics were godless, sterile, and pathetic

chemborg.bsky.social•107 days ago

If your response to evil people throwing baseless attacks at you is to walk back from what you say are your core values, people will rightly believe 1) they are not your values and /or 2) you won't fight for your values (or them).

mobiusstripper.bsky.social•107 days ago

That depends. Have they been proven wrong on every occasion? Because in that case, they're due!

anantichrist.bsky.social•106 days ago

This sounds like a job for Ben Ryan! He can make an official law that trans women can’t block him on Twitter

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