it’s very possible that in a few weeks “Trump saved TikTok” will become a recurring political talking point, mostly because Dems are short sighted and Trump knows an easy political win when he sees it
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And RFK Jr. wants to reform Medicare billing and ban drug ads on tv, ideas I approve of.
But just because a stopped clock is right twice a day doesn't mean stopped clocks are good timepieces.
RFK Jr. is still a dangerous lunatic & Trump is a fascist.
I believe the TikTok ban exists b/c the owners of this country want us to guzzle our info from the media they own. TikTok is a threat to that, and that's "national security" to them.
TikTok isn't perfect. But it's an alternative info source they don't control.
Where did I say I trust them? I have no compulsion to defend China, but it is difficult to discern accurate information about "camps" from western propaganda. We use prison slave labor in the U.S. so we're shouldn't throw stones.
I'm aware of zero reasons to believe the owners of this country give 2 shits whether I live or die. American owned social media collects data to o & I trust them no more than the Chinese. We have far bigger problems than TikTok.
I disagree that Trump knows a political or cares about getting one.
HE wants to be the one getting lobbied, not Clarence Thomas or Brett Kavanaugh. HE wants to be the one getting bribed -- by TikTok, by someone who wants to buy TikTok, or by someone who wants TikTok shut down. Highest bidder wins.
We need to start saying democratic leaders are short sited. The Dems I know see this shit a mile away. Our leadership is a bunch of old, lazy ass fools. Yeah I said it. This didn’t have to happen with better comms and better strategy.
It's also very clear that sites like youtube is going to capitalize on it in some form making way for migrants of TikTok since we know it's going to cause a sitewide exodus and make youtube worse.
Don't say I didn't warn creators if another youtube controversey happens to open 2025...
TikTok's ad revenue has doubled in the last 2 years while YT's been mostly flat.
Even if they banned TikTok from app stores, they can retain them with progressive web apps that function similarly. Very easy to do on Android.
It ain't cheating if you are the one makin' the rules, after all.
Even if TikTok was banned and youtube's revenue remains "flat", with a competitor gone the CEO can act like TikTok didn't happen and secure a monopoly.
Nobody's going to stop using TikTok. They will browse to their mobile website and continue using it.
TikTok could even sell TikTok branded phones having a TikTok app preinstalled.
Much of TikTok's money also comes from users and advertisers outside of the USA.
Its easier said that done. What's the legal mechanism to ban the sale of a cell phone simply because it has an unapproved app preinstalled? The FCC has no jurisdiction over installed software apps. The FTC has no jurisdiction either. Any attempt to confiscate would be met with lawsuits
Yeah that's the thing that got me pulling my hair out.
It's also a website. You'd need to Great Firewall of China the traffic if you were serious about blocking it. (american politicans are deeply unserious)
There's this site called Twitter. 44billion dollars, bought by a useful idiot. Being ran into the fuckin' ground in real time. If it could happen to Twitter, then no other website is safe.
The ONLY reason I even CARE about TikTok is my granddaughter enjoys learning how to make cardboard hand puppets. I checked it out. There are a LOT of bullies there and misinformation. This has nothing to do with being a Democrat. I’m a democrat. Just my opinion.
I honestly don’t think Trump knows a thing beyond the tip of his own beak. Maybe his wranglers know an easy political win, but Trump?! Nah. He’s too lazy, incurious, and corpulent creeping in his actions that that’s overselling it .
Trump will get bribed to save TikTok and Democrats will get the blame for having tried to stop TikTok in the first place. Just big round of applause for Ds all around here.
so we're just gonna memoryhole that he tried to get rid of it when he was in office last time because of the china thing and only flipped when its owner started funneling money to him and he saw the political power it had, cool cool cool
"Started funneling money to him" is a bit misleading. Jeff Yass has been one of the biggest Republican mega donors since the early 2000s including decades of funding the Club for Growth.
Maybe Elon has spent more now but until this year, Yass was the big dog of funding Republicans.
Because TikTok was spreading awareness of the horror being inflicted on Palestinians. Politicians can't have that, at least the ones bought by AIPAC can't.
Schumer at the podium holding up the latest blistering Thomas L. Friedman column. We’ve forfeited our opportunity to show strength by enforcing the law. Where does it end, he asks
"Easy political win"? Please -- trump had none of those during his first disastrous tenure, and it's doubtful he'll improve from there. Stop giving this grotesque, convicted criminal more credit because he won an election in a country where racism and misogyny are serious problems.
He is nothing if not savvy. Tik Tok is a simple matter of the political scale. The ‘Ratings’ go with swooping in to ‘save’ it - despite the ugly underpinnings that may well gird the platform.
No deep reasoning put into this type of typical DJT expedience.
tik tok and snapchat are like the only social media that middle schoolers use now apparently also, so kids hear that and they’d side with him / GOP on just that
Dems would get mugged walking down a bright alley with security. Dumb as rocks in many ways. Dunno if privilege or self righteousness is more blinding.
The dems are so bad at this. They could’ve opposed the ban from the get go, which probably would’ve helped them with young voters, but now this is their issue! Even though more Rs wanted to ban it and trump originally did lol.
Honestly, taking away a source of news, entertainment, and business that a third of the country enjoys might have been one of the many nails in the coffin of the Dem 2024 campaign.
In the long light of history, saving Tik Tok will be the moral equivalent of saving cigarettes or championing diabetes. Facebook/Insta/Threads, anything Google, it will all be seen in a similar light. It will be a short-term win for the tech equivalent of the Big Oil, Big Pharma crowd.
Trump has such a crush on Xi. It’s like Trump sees this guy have power that he wants, but has no idea that the way Xi got there was by being smart, educated, and a shrewd political operative. Trump would get so bored being Xi.
All because Biden refused to believe that we are against genocide on principle. God he probably is the worst president, and I'm including the monsters we installed in South America
Trump has stated that TikTok benefited him during the pandemic election. That’s why he’s keeping it. It has nothing to do with free speech. He wants to platform for his own propaganda.
K. That still doesn't change that Dems wanted to axe it and a Republican is bringing it back. Excuses no matter how valid they are to voters are just gonna look like excuses.
I’m aware of the Biden Administration wanting to ban TikTok. My comment was referring to why Trump wants it to not be banned. He likes to silence any media that opposes him, but TikTok is a platform for his propaganda. I think that’s the only reason he wants to keep it. Nothing to do with our rights
I’d argue it’s less Dems being short sighted and more them continuing their attempt to give every easy win they can to Trump simply because Dems are tired of pretending they ever had any intention of opposing him/fascists in general
Feels more like a sports team in a large market where many of the players and fans want the team to win, but the ownership and management who thinks it might be nice to win, but not if that got in the way of the sensibilities of the old guard and their own personal profit.
"so I talked to xi, & they agreed to fix it, & so I said we'd save tiktok from the democrat party. only I could save it, folks, because the rest of the world doesn't respect the liberals, they're not afraid of sleepy joe, but they knew I'd be tough & they won't mess with america when I'm in charge"
Trump is an extremely stupid person, but he is smart enough to know that 700 centimillionaires can put a lot more money in his pocket than 70,000,000 regular citizens can. Those 700 centimillionaires depend on foreign workers with H1B visas to make them tons of money....
Wait until you learn what literally every other company running a social media platform does
Anyways, thank you for demonstrating to everyone that all it take to get the braindead to support whatever bullshit right wingers want is for politicians to mention China
It's also is a coincidence that TikTok played a major role in showing young people the reality of the Gaza genocide, and that those responsible for said genocide are now banning TikTok
The world is burning and the Democrats are doing the 2024 version of banning the Tango. I cannot imagine how the Chinese having TikTok data is worse than letting it be in the hands of psychos like Zuckerberg and Musk.
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But just because a stopped clock is right twice a day doesn't mean stopped clocks are good timepieces.
RFK Jr. is still a dangerous lunatic & Trump is a fascist.
TikTok isn't perfect. But it's an alternative info source they don't control.
You seem to be under the impression that we have to say the US is a place of justice in order to find the Chinese reprehensible - and dangerous.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/09/13/chinas-beautiful-xinjiang-continues-oppress-uighurs
Give them your data. What could go wrong?
HE wants to be the one getting lobbied, not Clarence Thomas or Brett Kavanaugh. HE wants to be the one getting bribed -- by TikTok, by someone who wants to buy TikTok, or by someone who wants TikTok shut down. Highest bidder wins.
Don't say I didn't warn creators if another youtube controversey happens to open 2025...
Even if they banned TikTok from app stores, they can retain them with progressive web apps that function similarly. Very easy to do on Android.
Even if TikTok was banned and youtube's revenue remains "flat", with a competitor gone the CEO can act like TikTok didn't happen and secure a monopoly.
TikTok could even sell TikTok branded phones having a TikTok app preinstalled.
Much of TikTok's money also comes from users and advertisers outside of the USA.
Think. It's not as invincible as you are making it out to be.
It's also a website. You'd need to Great Firewall of China the traffic if you were serious about blocking it. (american politicans are deeply unserious)
There's this site called Twitter. 44billion dollars, bought by a useful idiot. Being ran into the fuckin' ground in real time. If it could happen to Twitter, then no other website is safe.
TikTok has no revenue problems. They are making money hand over fist.
You forgot that Brazil banned twitter, and Elon had to pay a fine to get the ban lifted.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y06vzk3yjo
ppl are immensely stupid and short memoried
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/style/tiktok-trump-rally-tulsa.html
Maybe Elon has spent more now but until this year, Yass was the big dog of funding Republicans.
they won't remember this in 2 months.
Wouldn't be surprised if TikTok quietly pushed more right leaning stuff to the right people. Their algorithms are a black box
No deep reasoning put into this type of typical DJT expedience.
“Love ME Do!”
truly surprised Musk didn't try to buy it (yet?)
Dems need to play hardball. Put them into “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situations.
He couldn't care less that its algo gives the CCP access to the brains of millions of vulnerable Americans.
https://bsky.app/profile/sababausa.bsky.social/post/3ldhambzdpk2l
Tic
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A winner!
(It'd also be nice to have superpowers, as long as I'm fantasizing on that level.)
He’s always transactional
They're unable to understand or engage with Ameropessimism, to them it's something foreigners do to America.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2024/08/tiktok-is-a-threat-to-national-security-but-not-for.html
Anyways, thank you for demonstrating to everyone that all it take to get the braindead to support whatever bullshit right wingers want is for politicians to mention China