I wrote about the people who regret voting for Trump, from whether they're morally redeemable to what they can tell us about Trump's fascist coalition.
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As a practical matter, I 100% agree with you. But, man, deep down I feel you let the morons off the hook easily. A substantial number of those morons hold degrees and technical jobs. They are not morons by any standard definition of the word.
They could have known, but they chose not to. For a fair number of them, I think they chose not to, not because they couldn't, but because that would make them culpable for the outcome. They played moral Russian roulette and lost.
Not to be presumptuous, but if beehiv has a pay once trial option it might worth offering that as an option. Having to subscribe and then cancel when you only want to read one thing isn't a great user experience. Clearly the functionality exists because I just gamed it by buying myself a gift.
I’ve realized that there are a lot of misunderstood concepts of what fascism is. And so, I’ve never seen a true definition that makes sense for any moment at hand. But what I do know is it has the following in common:
A) powerful use get and anger at marginalized groups to get political support from other powerless cohorts to support the powerful gaming the system for the powerful.
B) Acting on the cruelty towards marginalized groups or opponents to keep powerless supports thinking things are getting done
Add me to the list of people who subscribed because of this one. Really well put. I get the impulse to scream “I told you so,” I have it pretty strongly myself, but we have to remember that what’s emotionally satisfying isn’t always going to be the same as what’s helpful.
if you write a book i will for sure purchase it, but if i start paying a third subscription for peter shamshiri content it’s going to feel like the dril budget meme
I mean, no. Not a single person who voted for Trump is the least bit morally redeemable because - at best - these are horrifically selfish people who believed that the cost of eggs or free IVF or whatever that impacted them personally was more important than the rights & lives of trans & BIPOC folx
Practically everyone I know over 45 is a Republican. None of them have ever met a transgender person and they don't care about the issue whatsoever other than a few cranks that actually consume RW media. Myths about violent immigrants running rampant and late term abortions are far more salient.
I mean, there you have it then.
At some point people need to take some responsibility for their thoughts, words, and actions. Add to that that the majority of republicans are Christian and the whole thing goes to pieces.
What kind of follower of Christ would permit his fellow man to be abused?
What about his treasonous attack on the WH? Or the fact that he wracked up the national debt by more than any other president during his first term? What about allllllll the crazy shit he did during his first term?? I’m sorry, but no. These people are willfully ignorant and that’s just not okay
After 10 years of this shit, there is absolutely a point at which being so uninformed is a choice and a moral failing. You have decided other things in your life are more important than ever reading anything about politics or the world. Maybe not irredeemable, but I won't forgive them.
it's certainly hard to make the case that our media properly informed the citizenry of what the voting options were
that doesn't mean they weren't ALSO suffused throughout with motivated reasoning, blind spots, etc. but that these were encouraged and abetted by the media
Yes, the mainstream media had a hand in distributing propaganda to the masses, but that does not relieve people of personal responsibility.
The media can tell me all day long that a particular class or group is evil, but the onus is on me to do some research instead of arbitrarily believing them.
The man came right out and TOLD people what he was planning to do. I mean, you can believe that he wouldn’t do it to you, but he was very upfront about stripping rights from women, BIPOC, and LGBTQ+ people.
A Nazi is a Nazi and it doesn’t matter what their reasoning is for Nazi-ing.
If a person doesn’t think about other people, is that a good person?
What about if they don’t care about the lives and rights of others?
Is that benign, do you think? Because that is literally how the Nazis came to power: people not thinking about the people around them.
Nah. To vote the first time can be somewhat forgiven of a con job. To know what he did, is capable of doing it, and voting for it is explicit moral failure.
Admittedly, as someone born in 1996, I’m just not use to paying for news and journalism, and honestly Peter, after todays banter in the bonus episode abt cost, and seeing your skeets- I think you will be my first 🫡
Which is just also funny considering Michael was a journalist first(sorry Michael!)
I actually read that and found it illuminating.
There are so many vids of people approaching Trump voters in public for laughs (like Jordan Klepper who I think is awesome BTW) - and I wish for once they'd ask "Who are you BESIDES a Trump voter? What do we agree on?". AOC is great at this.
Something I learned while phone banking for planned parenthood is that it's a waste of time and energy trying to convince anyone who disagreed with us. We spent our energy encouraging people who already agreed with us that they needed to go vote
I understand the paywall - but to get partway through the first piece of yours I have ever read and then be presented with it is,TBH, a bit frustrating. A few paragraphs in is not enough for me to make a subscription decision. At least let people read a full essay before demanding an access fee.
Why? To make things worse for everyone I will erect a paywall around my own output? So that I can assume a mental load of rationalizing the quality of my output against the income it gives me? That's giving in to the hellscape and should be avoided.
If you’re in a position to give it away for free, more power to you. We don’t live in a Star Trek utopia though where all of us can afford to give away our output for free.
Every trump voter has this one thing in common; they voted for him, knowing deep in their hearts, that he was a bad choice but, he spoke to their racism and bigotry.
I think it's more the moral/cultural factor than the moronic, but anyway it's always been a safe strategy to first punch the Nazi then maybe later you can try to find out what made them such bigoted shitheads
Sorry, but I quit reading because because of all the Christian-speak.
What's ironic is that so many of those who regret their Trump vote were primed - if not outright commanded - by their Christian leaders to vote for him.
Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense unless you're angling to cultivate a theocratic audience who wants Christianity to be a core aspect of our government and politics - and those folks aren't likely to agree with you otherwise.
yeah it’s a big point of tension with my audience but at the end of the day I’m compelled to fill my writing with completely sincere allusions to Christian theology
Another thing that should be noted is most of the people getting attention for regretting their Trump votes are white & none of them talk about how his racism was a negative for them. Even that woman from the WaPo article didn't mention his racism. I think we all know why.
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❌ "trump duped you"
✅ "trump duped us", "bait and switch", "nobody voted for this"
And here is the best part: FCK them! FCK Them daily. FCK Them Often.
I will go live my entire life making sure that they are FCKed.
B) Acting on the cruelty towards marginalized groups or opponents to keep powerless supports thinking things are getting done
But what about how he treats/talks about women? What about his felony charges?
Do these people not know any women? Or do they just not care?
At some point people need to take some responsibility for their thoughts, words, and actions. Add to that that the majority of republicans are Christian and the whole thing goes to pieces.
What kind of follower of Christ would permit his fellow man to be abused?
that doesn't mean they weren't ALSO suffused throughout with motivated reasoning, blind spots, etc. but that these were encouraged and abetted by the media
The media can tell me all day long that a particular class or group is evil, but the onus is on me to do some research instead of arbitrarily believing them.
they can become "good people" on their own time. and anyway, a great first step toward redemption is to undo the problems you've caused.
The man came right out and TOLD people what he was planning to do. I mean, you can believe that he wouldn’t do it to you, but he was very upfront about stripping rights from women, BIPOC, and LGBTQ+ people.
A Nazi is a Nazi and it doesn’t matter what their reasoning is for Nazi-ing.
What about if they don’t care about the lives and rights of others?
Is that benign, do you think? Because that is literally how the Nazis came to power: people not thinking about the people around them.
Which is just also funny considering Michael was a journalist first(sorry Michael!)
I'm going to end up paying thus guy a third monthly fee for content aren't i?
There are so many vids of people approaching Trump voters in public for laughs (like Jordan Klepper who I think is awesome BTW) - and I wish for once they'd ask "Who are you BESIDES a Trump voter? What do we agree on?". AOC is great at this.
If you do something well, give it away for free.
What's ironic is that so many of those who regret their Trump vote were primed - if not outright commanded - by their Christian leaders to vote for him.
What else are you hiding?!?