Is the Green Party currently making any effort to form a coalition with disaffected Left-leaning MPs and disparate small Socialist parties (or even the Liberals) in time to fight the next election?
The low turn out at the last GE, and the number of votes for Reform, shows the distain that people are feeling for the major parties.
What is desperately needed now, is a viable Socialist option.
The Green Party needs to expand massively to stand any chance of winning a GE, and until it does that people will not vote for it.
So unless that expansion is possible then, unfortunately, alone the Greens are not that option.
I'm not sure I quite understand your point, you're saying the Greens need to expand(I agree) but the alternative is much smaller parties who would likely take decades to get to the same strength as the Greens have now
It seems to me that many people feel disenfranchised by the absence of a party that they believe represents them, or that those that do can never win an election. Hence the success of Reform.
I think the various Socialist parties and individuals, including Greens, need to work together.
The UK is now, politically, very similar to USA in that our two main 'opposing' parties are driven by the same objectives.
Hence voter apathy and the less intelligent being deluded.
I’m afraid you clearly are not. You need to address why you cannot convince the hundreds of thousands of former LP members (that were also donors and activists) to join the Greens. You would of course have increased smears against you of antisemitism. Perhaps there are too many free market Greens 🤷♂️
The Greens increased their MPs form 1 to 4 at the last election. A 400% increase. OK it's a long way from winning the election, but it's way ahead of any other socialist alternative. Those first seats are hard won.
The Greens were getting FPTP tactical voters which is fine and I might consider doing that also if the circumstances were right. Anything that exposes the duopoly as vulnerable is a good thing. There are so many motivated activists and members for the taking yet the Greens cannot attract them.
But loads of former Labour member ARE going to the Greens. Myself included. And yes they ARE getting increased smears of antisemitism. The CAA just put out a claim that the Greens are the most antisemitic party in Britain. But of course all that means is that the Greens stand up for Palestine.
Zack, you should be leader/ main spokesperson for a left Green Alliance, along with Corbyn, left trade unions and other principled independents. https://youtu.be/VGVTlOVv_HU?si=z9d8DRnOpc8XkbgR
Are they talking ? I have asked ZP a number of times on here why they have not managed to attract the vast majority of former LP members to the Greens. No response so far just an open invitation to do so. I’d like the blank space between to be addressed.
Whats stopping many "post Corbynite" ex Labour members from joining the greens. A big part of that is the fact that our trade unions are STILL (mostly) tied to Labour and not the greens. Are the Greens talking to TUs, the TUC & non affiliated left unions like RMT and left TU groupings? 🤔
I have little time for NM. It began with their opposition to a new socialist party. Then came serious misgivings with their establishment-like coverage of Ukraine. Followed no-less by self-interest excuses for voting for a genocide supporting Labour government under Starmer.
Same! I just wrote my MP a long email after redistricting brought us in a new constituency. We need protection now and Streeting appears to be an enemy to this
Sadly, that's true exact opposite of the what they're doing.
Many of the people in charge now were instrumental in undermining Labour's election campaigns in 2017 and 19. And they've used that to push the message that being Labour isn't electable.
I used to vote Conservative until I realised how they let the country down. When I used to go to the local polling station there was always a Green Party representative standing outside. No other party to be seen. So I started to vote Green became a member as their policies are my policies.
I‘ve just been through a shopping precinct in Doncaster where there’s a display of the thoughts of local people about books that have made them, if you see Ed Milliband……
See pic: Sian Berry's contribution to the AI/copyright debate on Monday. Also Google "Green Party copyright 2015". They lost my support then, and they are not getting it back.
I had a few interesting conversations when leafletting for the Greens at the last election.
Many 'traditional Labour' voters were, often a bit reluctantly, converted to the Greens by the major difference in the usefulness of their councillors locally
This is my point. The party didn't brand itself; the media did. When you talk to people, they dont know about all of the policies that should win us votes. They can't see past green= tree hugging.
Now, I love 🌳 🌲 🌴, but, when it is all that people see then it's stopping the rest from working.
I'd love to work for the greens on a local level, but with 42hrs at my desk, 2 teens, a foster kid, 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a husband (he knows he's last on the list :)), there is no chance.
I was just sharing my observations. Other green party members MUST encounter the same.
They seeped authoritarianism out of every pore, and were clearly more interested in tracking down the leakers than addressing the shocking behaviour described of the right of the party.
I tried to quit the party but found there was seemingly no mechanism. I wanted their membership numbers to fall.
Desperate to leave rather than being a "lapsed member" I decided to try to get myself expelled by joining another party - The Greens, and immediately self-reported myself to the Labour Party.
The only contact I've had with the party since is when an Executive Committee member decided to use the (by then outdated) party data in order to dox me on X as a "Nazi Grade Antisemite".
Because while challenging (!) a holocaust denier I stated that Nakba denial was also wrong.
Hi Steve
If you’re opposed to Brexit, why replace a party wanting Brexit with a party also wanting Brexit ?
If you’re fed up with parties who do bugger all for the environment, why replace a party who does bugger all for the environment with a party who does bugger all for the environment?
Because where I live, a vote for anyone but labour, is a vote for the tories. And they were the worst of everything, although reform clearly wear that crown now.
I get the argument of "if you don't vote for change, you'll never get change" but I really don't want the tories again.
Steve, through this you are saying if you would have voted for a party that better approximates to the ideals you show in your bio, Labour wouldn’t form the government thus removing the Tories ?
It was pretty clear the Tories would be out well before the day itself.
If more people hadn’t listened to Labour activists, then more Green & LibDem MPs would have been returned - putting more pressure on Labour to stop being so stupid. Perhaps even go into a supply agreement (not coalition)?
Neoliberal ✔️Tory donors✔️Tory MPs✔️Tory policies✔️
Then we have the mountain lies of Starmer. His destruction of internal party democracy. His authoritarianism. His use of fire and rehire. His repugnant use of the memory of his dead parents in his lies.
No Steve…they are at least the equal of the blues
I'm more concerned with their compliant silence on the Gaza genocide and the continuing supply of war materials and logistical/reconnaissance support to Israel than I am with any domestic matters. In any case, I can't see that their record with domestic matters is anything but poor.
With you for two elections now, but to take on Reform you need to get much louder and more effective on social media. That's how they're winning right now.
The tax the rich message is landing, go noisy on that and you can gain.
Voted green the last few years, and you do speak well Zack, but we need a more dynamic, rallying approach. The type of character that Mick Lynch had that got him on the news every day. The greens are just too nice.
I left the Labour Party and joined the Green Party several months ago, and don't regret it in the least. Starmer is just going lower and lower. Hope some of the decent Labour MPs decide to join you (I wouldn't be at all surprised if some are already talking to you).
Inequality has wrecked the lives of the ordinary British person. Labour has decided to turn blue in the face of Farage and are not going to help the ordinary Brit. I have voted Green for years, disillusioned by Labour in the 90's. Just decided to join.
Thinking about joining. but never see Greens around my area. Was told this by a Labour councillor who was canvassing when she thought my Green vote went into the never ever. Need more presence and messaging. Lab & Libs are on local FB groups but no Greens.
It’s someone at last pointing out the glaringly obvious fact that Labour and the Conservatives, and Reform and the LibDems, are offering the same tired neoliberal BS.
Just a minor point….some of the people you’re talking to (me for one) are old. So include us please rather than referring to us as ‘your grandparents’.
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What is desperately needed now, is a viable Socialist option.
So unless that expansion is possible then, unfortunately, alone the Greens are not that option.
I think the various Socialist parties and individuals, including Greens, need to work together.
https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620
Hence voter apathy and the less intelligent being deluded.
2019 50,000
2021 54,306
2022 53,126
2024 59,000
My computer has hacked as I emailed MPs at Parliament.
Police Ref: CCE21 11.30 9.2.2025.
Who was responsible for that? Will they be apprehended?
YES/NO. Probably NO.
https://youtu.be/VGVTlOVv_HU?si=z9d8DRnOpc8XkbgR
That's a great message Zack, that's what people want to hear.
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Maybe Labour should think ahead and be a bit more 'Labour' before it's too late.
Many of the people in charge now were instrumental in undermining Labour's election campaigns in 2017 and 19. And they've used that to push the message that being Labour isn't electable.
So I (finally) joined the Green Party! 💚
From defending renters rights, reform of the police, a universal basic income and drug reform to name just a few!
Sone people can't get past it
Again, just my observations.
Pensioners deserve to be warm
Rich people who won’t pay their fair share should go to jail
The feedback I get is that most people don't see anything but the first one. They don't actually know about the rest.
Many 'traditional Labour' voters were, often a bit reluctantly, converted to the Greens by the major difference in the usefulness of their councillors locally
Not what oligarch media let them to expect
Now, I love 🌳 🌲 🌴, but, when it is all that people see then it's stopping the rest from working.
I was just sharing my observations. Other green party members MUST encounter the same.
We attended an online group call where Starmer and Rayner were talking and we didn't get to ask questions regarding the leaked report.
I tried to quit the party but found there was seemingly no mechanism. I wanted their membership numbers to fall.
Because while challenging (!) a holocaust denier I stated that Nakba denial was also wrong.
I kid you not.
If you’re opposed to Brexit, why replace a party wanting Brexit with a party also wanting Brexit ?
If you’re fed up with parties who do bugger all for the environment, why replace a party who does bugger all for the environment with a party who does bugger all for the environment?
etc.
I get the argument of "if you don't vote for change, you'll never get change" but I really don't want the tories again.
Really?
If more people hadn’t listened to Labour activists, then more Green & LibDem MPs would have been returned - putting more pressure on Labour to stop being so stupid. Perhaps even go into a supply agreement (not coalition)?
Then we have the mountain lies of Starmer. His destruction of internal party democracy. His authoritarianism. His use of fire and rehire. His repugnant use of the memory of his dead parents in his lies.
No Steve…they are at least the equal of the blues
As for what they've done....
https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/politics/the-first-6-months-what-has-labour-actually-done/
Al things achieved just in January
https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/politics/government-is-busy-but-the-media-are-not-telling-you/
The tax the rich message is landing, go noisy on that and you can gain.
…and The Green Party aren’t.
@greenparty.org.uk
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