I feel like once again they will find no link, panic and either
A) scrap the project entirely and bury the evidence
B) bribe the scientists to lie and fabricate a false link to push this narrative.. who gains a positive outcome from that. Political favor? Insurance profits off sick people?
The thing that pisses me off the most about this vaccines X autism thing the most was even if it caused autism at the rates they think (and it doesn't, at all) it would STILL BE WORTH DOING as opposed to letting children get fucking polio
Facts moved from "no evidence of link" to a Danish study confirming "good evidence of NO link".... about a decade or so ago.
Andrew Wakefield made alot of money from his fake study....while killing alot of kids.
The stupid people who believe the ignorance of the magats! Some magats are against vaccines & apparently would have liked living when Small Pox was a big problem. They had no vaccine for it then. Now we have it & stupid people who don’t want it. Maybe they should get their way & see what happens.
Already happening with measles. I feel badly for unvaccinated children. They certainly don’t want measles! It’s not fun! I know because I had measles back when there was no vaccine available! My mom said I was really sick- I don’t remember except having to stay in bed with the window shades drawn.
Here we go. I’m sure with the current makeup of the hhs, they’ll find a way to prove vaccines cause autism, sterility, Alzheimer’s, childhood obesity and gender confusion. Our future pandemic fate lies in the small hands of a guy with pleather skin and a worm farm growing in his brain
No, no. It was Biden and it was he put on the tariffs too. Pesky little bastard. Still in the White House in disguise. Pretending to be trump. The real Donald wouldn’t be this crap. Would he?
Dont forget who manages that agency. A junkie that has used every drug imaginable and wants to tell you, and me, how great *snake oil of the month* is for everything.
He’s using greed. He will profit financially from his recommendations as he always has with all his conspiracy theories. He’s probably already selling cod liver oil to the Texans to cure their measles
True, but the same principle applies. People with substance abuse disorders should not be demonized. These men are just evil regardless of what drugs they take.
Ugghh this is so bad. Re-doing already debunked stuff using people who will say what they want is not expertise. We have already figured it’s not the damn vaccines. And he has a brain worm for fucks sake.
You forgot inflation, and empathy in your list of things that vaccines cause. Basically, vaccines are the root cause of anything and everything that they oppose.
Didn't you know that getting an MMR shot increases the price of eggs? And flu shots make gas prices go up!
I take some pleasure and experience much fear knowing that the parasitic brain worm he had in his brain died from malnutrition. It was dead when they removed it from the Stalingrad Dealey Plaza Gaza environment of his brain.
CDC allows big pharma to run safety trials of their own medications. It is illegal to sue over vax injuries since Reagan. Most of tv stations ad revenue comes from big pharma (80% at CNN).
I just hope that if they actually do this, real scientists are working on it who will use rigorous scientific methodology and tell the truth, whether it fits the party line or not.
The thing is it has already been done, again and again, with much greater statistical power than the original, debunked study, and no such connection has been found. Literally the only reason to beat this dead horse any more is if you just mean to make shit up.
tell that to every parent and family member of an autistic kid. i hope you never know the struggle it is for those families, but somehow, karma might just bite you in the ass!
You know how in zombie movies there is always the guy that goes crazy and lets in the zombies? I always thought that was dumb and unbelievable. It is believable now. Some people are just pro-disease
This ‘link’ between mmr vaccine and autism has been thoroughly debunked. The original 1998 research by Brit doctor Andrew Wakefield was exposed as falsified. His medical license was revoked and he moved to the US where folk are more gullible & conspiracy theories embraced
These are the people that love to demonize Dr. Fauci? I dislike reading what I consider common knowledge, as in why state the obvious?, however, isn't this the definition of insanity??
They want people to die. That’s the only reason to destroy trust in vaccines. Winnowing down the masses. Just like Curtis Yarvin promotes. Saves the earth’s resources to have less people.
If we can start with felon47, musk, Vance, Bannon, the entire trump family except Mary, Stone, Ramaswamy, Putin, the GOP SCOTUS, the entire DOGE team, Lindsey Graham, Franklin Graham, Billy Graham’s ghost, Cruz, Tim Scott, Tate Bros, Peter Thiel, all the Tech bros who aligned with musk, et al.
And ban them .. they know we can’t feed all the people in the planet due to global warming and crops not being as plentiful because of it .. and people are living longer now because of modern medicine .. so what’s the solution.. destroy modern medicine .. poison or food
That stupid woman Jenny McCarthy got everybody up in arms because she has an autistic child and he was vaccinated so that must be the problem. Dumb bitch
This is why elon is dismantling our government elon on his ketamine high antics is just a distraction. The real people pulling the strings in the background just as racist and worse than he is. https://youtu.be/OC629l-wZBQ?feature=shared
Anyone want to bet they’ll hire Andrew Wakefield to run this?
For those who don’t know who Wakefield is, he’s the disgraced former doctor and con-artist who made up the link between vaccines and autism, with a plan to cash in on fake treatments to “fix” this.
To Wakefield, it might. People can admit when they are wrong sometimes. It's still causing harm today, though. What I meant was I didn't think Wakefield would accept the job because he knew there wasn't a link already, though.
So wasteful… Starting with the fact that we already know what they are going to find because they’re looking for something specific and they don’t really care about science
Science always welcomes new science-provided it follows scientific methods that can be tested and proven with data. But I bet they’ll find some quack to put out a a graph showing correlation but no causation.
Oh My God, but of course. What a waste of money and time. I would love to read the background research section of that protocol to see their justification of this study. 🤦🏻♀️
But are they going to follow the scientific methods to justify their work?
Naa. Too much work. We're gonna spend a few weeks, then blame it on vaccines anyway without a shred of evidence, simply to justify taking away all vaccines.
This is the party of lies. They don't need proof
Here's an idea. More studies on microplastics and the negative effects they have on living beings. They're in breast milk, placentas, and our brains. They disrupt everything.
YES! And also so many tell me I'm bad at communication when they're the ones sending me vague asf texts or emails or not responding at all. I was assessed and found out I rank in the top 10% for communication skills. NTs are so much worse at communicating than they think.
And the single study everyone holds onto was entirely falsified by Wakefield in order to make money off of his own version of the measles vaccines the research has been done, vaccines do not cause autism, if they did everyone would have autism and it wouldn't exist in the unvaccinated population.
Sounds like something Roadkill Dude would want his Department to study. He’ll probably find some alleged researchers who will give him the answer he wants… 🙄
FWIW, the CDC and the National Academy of Medicine have conducted numerous studies on the potential link between vaccines & the overwhelming consensus from these studies is that there is no link between vaccines and autism.
I'm guessing they're going to try to slowly introduce "studies" that result in slowly connecting Autism to certain or all vaccines. I don't know about y'all but I will question any "studies" or "findings" this administration puts out
For those of us in Microbiology at the time, the guy wrote the paper linking Autism to the MMR vaccine, when he was paid to do so by a morally corrupt drug company because they wanted to sell their drugs, not have the vaccine prevent the diseases. He retracted the f@cking paper and was struck off.
Curious about the supporting research. I don't claim to be smart, but I've always seen that there isn't conclusive evidence re hereditary vs environmental for cause - and I've seen research that it is environmental. I'm not saying vaccines, I'm saying the possibility that it could be environmental.
I think it should be researched more just to understand autism better so society as a whole can be more inclusive and accessible. Especially autism in women and girls since there's differences in how autism presents in boy and girls.
From Autism Speaks, a nonprofit organization supporting parents: “Research tells us that autism tends to run in families, and a meta-analysis of 7 twin studies claim that 60 to 90% of the risk of autism comes from your genome.”
You are welcome! I’m wondering about the gut microbiome and how it relates to autism. There does seem to be a connection and we are learning that the microbiome affects our health in many ways. Hopefully, scientists can continue their studies!
Just FYI, autism speaks is an anti-autism hate group. While some of their data is real, they support abuse against autistic children and we (autistic adults) do not support them.
Best current estimates are 40-80% genetic, and the rest environmental. The biggest environmental factor in this case is... sex. Presentation is much harder to diagnose in female chromosomal paired people. This is not satire at all.
There are countless studies that have been conducted over decades of research that have already proven that no, it is not the vaccines. There is no connection at all.
Autism is genetic. It is not something you can catch, you have to be born with it. Take that from someone who is autistic.
Genetics accounts for 80% of autism. It runs in families. Although I'm not affected, A LOT of my relatives on Dad's side have it or had it before they passed. Goes all the way back to the great, great grandparents on that side of ny family. 1850's - present, with more on the way.
Every other study ever done hasn't we except for the one that was faked. We're afraid that's gonna happen again. Actually, I don't know if I'd say "afraid" is accurate; I'm very, very confident it'll gonna happen again.
Hi Friend, "high-functioning" is an out of date term that has to do with usefullness to capitalism and ranking the "value" of Autistics. Preferred terms are high- or low-support needs. This removes the capitalist element, and allows for more recognition of how support needs can change daily. 🖤🖤
Me too! I didn't know I'm Autistic until I was 35. I really enjoy learning about it from other Autistics, since the medical industry often has an anti-Autistic bias.
Same!!! The call is coming from inside the house folks. I’d also like to add that it was absolutely obvious since birth. I just didn’t know what to look for.
Thank you. I am similarly situated. It is so challenging to see CDC resources wasted on the pursuit of an already-debunked nonsensical hypothesis when other worthwhile autism research is needed.
I have three kids on the Spectrum. My father as well as I have symptoms, we never sought out diagnosis. I wholeheartedly believe it is genetic. I also noticed signs in all my kids within the first few days of their birth. It was harder with my first due to not knowing what I was looking at.
I've had so many conversations about the number of males (including my son) in my family who are autistic and isn't it funny how they all have so much in common with me but I was born female in the '80s so instead of a diagnosis I just got berated for not listening and being a know-it-all.
Ive noticed it for sure, me and my mother are more similar than we like to admit, and her mother for sure
Getting doctors to see "Wow he's probably autistic" at the age of 2 and seeing it in a straight line down the family tree is pretty good evidence its genetic
Tell that to Mr. Brain Worm. A study was done in Italy that showed that Vitamin A does nothing for measles. Yet hes pushing Vitamin A. RFKjr. is unfit handle Americas health. Hopefully we get a democratic majority in house and senate 2026 that will hold him accountable for the deaths under is watch.
Don’t worry. RFK jr will fix it. He helped Samoa once. It came with a low price of only 83 childrens Life. But at least that isn’t goverment money. It is only human suffering. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/j...
I can’t stop shaking my head in amazement at how profoundly stupid and unqualified RFK, Jr actually is. I guarantee he doesn’t believe half the crap he espouses, but he’s too ignorant and power hungry to retract his statements. He’s not a doctor and he has a worm in his brain. WTH?
From a brief scan of several studies, it looks like Vit A has been studied and shown repeatedly to not have an impact on measles symptoms.
Did Bobby read the studies in opposite world? 🤔
A study DID show that in malnourished children with a vitamin A deficiency, supplementary Vitamin A decreased the duration of measles. However it does nothing for children not suffering malnourishment.
I'm predicting there will be a call offering $$$ for "research" about it: "Call for proposals to investigate the link between autism and vaccines." Given that there are even high profile academics out there who do anything for cash that will be "fun". /s See Parkinson: https://undark.org/2025/02/24/book-review-doctored/
They'll run their 'study,' somehow determine a link (fabricated,) and then RFK Jr will ban vaccines, which is his plan and now he's figuring out how to make it 'look' legitimate, despite decades of prior research and evidence to the contrary.
This is so predictable. They will throw together some irrelevant word salad with some numbers that they don’t even understand and claim there is a link. It will be cut to pieces in peer review but the maga media will call the reviews fake news.
Of course essentially every autistic patient will have been vaccinated. Aha, there's your link! But every patient also drank tap water. Do a silly study trying to correlate that too. Besides, autism didn't just pop up all of a sudden... diagnosis is more recent.
Establishing such a correlation is a difficult exercise for those reasons, which unfortunately makes room for all sorts of chicanery at the margins. And importantly, there is really no plausible mechanism whereby multiple vaccines, all of which are different, could all cause the same brain lesion.
Here’s another: “Many studies have looked at whether there is a relationship between vaccines and ASD. To date, the studies continue to show that vaccines are not associated with ASD.” https://www.cdc.gov/autism/faq/index.html
They only distrust it because it doesn't tell them what they want to hear. As soon as it's spewing the same bull shit they are, I'm sure they'll suddenly be incredibly supportive of it's existence.
This is so true. My son, who I love very much, leans toward anti-vaxxing. I try to have reasonable conversations with him, but there is no reasoning with somebody who doesn’t believe that all the verifiably good sources I can use as evidence are “controlled by big Pharma.”
And dont confuse me with Anti-vax people. Vaccines are an amazing tool. My point is, humans also can fück things up and need to admit to mistakes then make them better.
Yes, the CDC removed it out of an abundance of caution, even though studies consistently showed it was harmless (which is why it's still in the flu vaccine). There was no need to remove it in the first place.
As I stated previously…
Vaccines are a powerful tool that have saved millions &
They are made as economicaly as possible, which results in only the required studies.
EVERY drug has side effects and for that reason vaccines should be a personal choice , not forced. Yes that’s messy, but fair.
Yup, that (used to?) happen in some areas of the states but of course the crazy anti-vaxers just homeschooled their children and complained that their kids were being banned from school.
I wasn't vaccinated until age 12; vaccines cannot time travel or Musk would have bought out the lab techs, named it some version of X-Time, been all over it.
Great. More waste of Tax payers money. One question. WHERE THE HELL IS BIG PHARMA?! Not a word from those clowns. They are actually gonna allow this bs just for a tax cut? Of RFK gets his way, they stand to lose BILLIONS! Cheaper to pay their GD taxes! 🤬
Let me guess. The trumptards are going to find a link. It will be divined using crystals and a feeling that it must be so. A new pseudo religion more like hogwarths and less like scientific method. Trump being the grand Wizzard. for whites only, by the way.
In Russia 97% of children are vaccinated (2023). In China, national immunization is generally over 90%. Maintaining high coverage remains crucial to preventing outbreaks. 🧐
Let’s waste millions of dollars studying something we already know is false. It says something like the bird flu, which is real and a present danger vaccinations do not called autism that’s been proven.
Is bunk. It was studied and recorded in patients as early as 1800 and no vaccines then. They began brainwashing some of the public around 2016 with these outlandish conspiracies and look where we are now. Their technique to in-still fear and disinformation put Trump exactly where he is now.
How do they explain the existence of Autism before vaccines were even invented? How do they explain Autism diagnosed in children as early as age 3 during a time when vaccines weren't given until age 5?
Slash funding for research to learn new knowledge about autism, find cancer cures, and such for RFK jr's beating of dead horse. Such a waste and I hate to think of how this will increase vaccine hesitancy.
Real science already did this multiple times proven the conspiracy theory wrong. Now conspiracies take power and want to do it their way, change the answers/results to their beliefs and make it legal to kill because no vaccinations will be allowed for anyone.
I mean, like the one study indicating that had been proven as a fraud decades ago. All the other studies concluded to absence of correlation. But having studies on eventual adverse effects of specific medecine and vaccines is what scientists do as routine.
Anyone else concerned about their fixation with Autism? I have a badly feeing that they want Ginny Pigs for musks Neuralink bullshit. Remind you of anything else that used kids for studies? It feels like breadcrumbs.
There should be more studies. Kids have a plethora of health problems. Any study is a good study. Autism was not as common prior to the 1990s nor were anaphylactic allergies. Asthma is more common. Anxiety, OCD, etc.. are out of bottom.
I have lived the Autism life for 28 years with my children. If they gave a shit about of autism they would not be defunding DOE, NHI, Medicaid, or SSDI etc.
There should be more studies on ways to help make society easier for us, not on the factors that cause neurodivergence. Autism, ADHD, etc are just as common now as it was then, we just have better ways to recognize it now.
Looking back, there were kids on the autism spectrum in the years from 1960-90, but they weren’t diagnosed as such. Back in the 80s, I remember studying about autistic savants 🤷🏻♀️ anaphylactic reactions were more common than you know. My eldest bro almost died in 1959,and we all have that same allergy
This has been studied, and no connection has ever been found. Do you know what a scientific paper is? Do you know where to find them and how to read them? The "more studies" that you're talking about exist.
Studies have already been conducted and connections debunked
But sure, let’s hear what brain worm will conclude knowing he’ll benefit financially from downplaying vaccines.
The who want to believe there's an issue will never believe any data that proves there's no issue.
This is the point of "do your own research" for these folks. If you don't like proponderance of what you see, keep looking until you find that one fringe study that confirms your bias.
Andrew Wakefield, the idiot who first introduced this idea for personal gain, has been thoroughly proven to be a charlatan and a fraud. Brian Deer's work to debunk him is an essential read on the subject. https://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary.htm
He was a running joke in the biology department when i was in uni. If you fucked your research and turned it in without peer review, it was called "pulling a wakefield".
Indeed. He was struck off the GMC register here in the UK. Still touting his autism bullshit in the USA though, where he seems to have a very receptive audience among the conspiracy theorists.
Colonizers here have used conspiracy to validate and perpetuate their own blind fear since even before the US was established. (See: the og colonizer's fear of Catholic immigrants.)
It's always built upon the fear someone will do to them what they have done to others.
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A) scrap the project entirely and bury the evidence
B) bribe the scientists to lie and fabricate a false link to push this narrative.. who gains a positive outcome from that. Political favor? Insurance profits off sick people?
Ugh.
Andrew Wakefield made alot of money from his fake study....while killing alot of kids.
This has been studied time and again.
Stop it.
Before I knew about RFK Jr.
Didn't you know that getting an MMR shot increases the price of eggs? And flu shots make gas prices go up!
C19 proved these people are liars.
“. No correlation. This is RFK crap to stop vaccines.
*Current administration
#Impeach47
#ImpeachVance
#DeportMusk
#DeposePootin
#TheClownThatWouldBeKing
#EmporersNewClothes
Meanwhile, ACTUAL, IMPORTANT research has been halted because they’ve turned off funding.
FOR F**K’S SAKE
https://youtu.be/OC629l-wZBQ?feature=shared
For those who don’t know who Wakefield is, he’s the disgraced former doctor and con-artist who made up the link between vaccines and autism, with a plan to cash in on fake treatments to “fix” this.
Naa. Too much work. We're gonna spend a few weeks, then blame it on vaccines anyway without a shred of evidence, simply to justify taking away all vaccines.
This is the party of lies. They don't need proof
That's aside from all the previous studies that were done and found nothing.
At a very basic level you need to explain how vaccinated people HAVEN'T developed autism and how unvaccinated people HAVE.
So it was all performative after all
The studies will continue until the result matches the desired conclusion.
What have you to fear if we study it again and prove you right?
We need to do RCT's. only RCTs can be accepted as proof (stuff ethics).😏
https://bsky.app/profile/synfennex.bsky.social/post/3ljx4ta7mrc2j
https://intheloopaboutneurodiversity.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/good-autistic-advocacy-organizations-vs-bad-autism-charities/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6710438/
Autism is genetic. It is not something you can catch, you have to be born with it. Take that from someone who is autistic.
Done! Research complete! NEXT!!
1) I was just like her as child, if not more anxious
2) Her paternal grandmother definitely falls under that umbrella
3) It’s genetic FFS 🤦♀️
Getting doctors to see "Wow he's probably autistic" at the age of 2 and seeing it in a straight line down the family tree is pretty good evidence its genetic
I guarantee he's vaccinated.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34250972/#:~:text=A%20nationwide%20vitamin%20A%20shortage%20reported%20in,a%20high%2Dincome%20setting%2C%20approximating%20an%20unbiased%20allocation.&text=Conclusion:%20Vitamin%20A%20does%20not%20change%20the,in%20children%20hospitalized%20in%20a%20high%2Dincome%20country.
Did Bobby read the studies in opposite world? 🤔
*Explicitly* for reducing risks of blindness, though.
Either way, it's the same bullshit tactic from COVID.
One some people are suggesting Antibiotics for Measles. Which don't do anything for viral, and that Antibiotics are already becoming less effective.
The other is measles parties. Which I think is child abuse to purposely infect children with measles.
I hadn't heard of the latter but the concept is taken from the chicken pox parties, which were a pretty common tactic back when
Certainly they will find the link they’re looking for. Which will expose drug makers to liabilities.
https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-causes-autism
https://www.cdc.gov/autism/faq/index.html
https://autismsciencefoundation.org/autism-and-vaccines/
Anyone saying that injecting even a tiny amount of mercury into baby’s developing brains is ok, is mistaken.
It can me made without this if temp controlled.
CDC also removed it from most vaccines.
https://youtu.be/XU8nSn5Ezd8?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/XU8nSn5Ezd8?feature=shared
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That video is completely irrelevant to thimerosal in vaccines.
Vaccines are a powerful tool that have saved millions &
They are made as economicaly as possible, which results in only the required studies.
EVERY drug has side effects and for that reason vaccines should be a personal choice , not forced. Yes that’s messy, but fair.
I'm certain they enjoy the stupidity of citizens.
Because as studies go with corruptible people I would not put it past Junior RFK
The effects of gluten on the developing brain....(autism)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsVbYonnMTY
Study is a waste of money.
But sure, let’s hear what brain worm will conclude knowing he’ll benefit financially from downplaying vaccines.
This is the point of "do your own research" for these folks. If you don't like proponderance of what you see, keep looking until you find that one fringe study that confirms your bias.
Honest, creative, clear thinking and just all around wonderful human beings.
https://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary.htm
It's always built upon the fear someone will do to them what they have done to others.