Federal workers can be summarily fired for insubordination. Being fired for insubordination can be a legal and professional quagmire lasting for years, so more than a loss of salary income and pension. Also there's the potential doxxing of personnel files and private financial and medical info.
It’s going to happen anyway. The worst is already happening.
It’s not insubordination if the person breaking into your office is not an employee of the federal government.
they show up with White House authorization and get put onto the books as agency employees
so open pushback is limited to security and ethics as governed by law
civil servants cannot openly defy a directive based on a policy disagreement unless they are prepared to be fired for insubordination
B/c we’ve conditioned generations through schools to obey authority
Even if they just say they are authority
& people are too conditioned, plus fear driven & caught off guard to push back
Which was the point & plan all along
That's partly why so many CINOs fell down the rabbit hole. They also don't encourage critical thinking skills.
When I was 8, I asked our pastor "If everyone died in the flood except Noah's family, where did Black & Asian people come from?" Never got an answer & he avoided me for the next 9 years. 🤣
If you’re a federal worker and a private security team is coming with guns and the authority to enter the building and access systems hasn’t been verified, call the police and the National
Guard. It’s illegal trespass until proven otherwise.
True but we can't bring them into federal buildings. It's the federal workers who need to figure this out, maybe arm up if possible, I don't know their rules.
Yeah the law is being used as a weapon, as it's often been throughout history. Either we (collectively) get into a position to change the law, or strong enough to ignore it (like Elump).
We are too civil. We need to put one of those vile mom’s for liberty nut bags at ever reception desk at each agency. No one is going to get past one of those self righteous loud women.
Wdym? No staff is allowed on the DOGE floor and lawmakers aren’t even allowed inside the building. They have armored guards. If someone were to record it’d have to be from the inside, and that’s unlikely
Maybe these things exist and I haven’t seen them but, as soon as there is someone from “DOGE”, cameras should start rolling or audio should be recorded. There have been interactions with them. There are accounts of people and their stories.
Saw a comment about how civil/public service workers tend to be folks who were good rule-following students in school, who didn't sass teachers or rock boats. So even in the face of patently evil crazy DOGE-bro bullshit, it can be hard to challenge perceived "authority" and norms, esp. singly.
As a bit of a goody-two-shoes pencil-pusher myself (pinko academic version), I get it. Despite the individualist PR, we're not a nation that's super comfy climbing onto on our desks and "Oh captain, my captain"-ing. It's easier for those of us who are old, cranky, privileged, and tactless.
It seems like these people are obeying DOGE because they all think that this life is just like a movie. You don't have to worry while you're in the theater, you get a little excitement and then this short story ends happily ever after, we all go home and the world is still fine.
While I hate it, most of the ground level employees who end up letting these little twats in are just that. Ground level employees. The practical want to ensure you can feed your family and the ideological want of protecting your country isn't an easy choice to make for many.
Most of the people I worked with were living paycheck to paycheck just like me. "Making a stand" and possibly losing your job, career, and references over it just... It's a choice no one should need to be making. All us gov employees are just people at the end of the day. We gotta pay rent too.
It’s so disheartening-when I read that the SS commissioner just quit rather than stand up to DOGE randos….well if she won’t scream bloody murder about their incursion and protect our data - we are doomed.
Explain this to me like I am 5.
Someone steals your private information without your consent, they are caught and prosecuted. So these Doges take everything, and why aren’t they arrested? Why are we seemingly accepting this? Help.
because they have been trained to since birth to obey authority.. the 4 things kids learn is school: sit down, Shut up, Behave and obey orders. ... it obviates the need for rational thought..
I understand they have private security protecting them and controlling who gets in and out. What I don't understand, is why Democrats, even wealthy democracy lovers like @mcuban.bsky.social are not funding their own private army to stop the steal, and enforce judges decisions. The war has started.
As far as I understand it, the muskrats are walking in with private security. Not sure government security guards would have stood a chance against that? The confusion over the legality over what's happening probably didn't help. I'm amazed there hasn't been bloodshed so far tho tbh.
People fear losing their jobs. The lives they spent decades building. Government employees become government employees for stability and good benefits. These people are risk-adverse personalities.
Seriously. If I walked into a shop, ordered the employees to leave and started opening the cash register and emptying the shelves, are people just going to stand there and let me do that? I don’t see how “DOGE” is any different. Trump cannot make it lawful just on his say-so.
We have to accept that if they shoot employees arriving at their job it is an official COUP. The lack of push back & the sheer stupidity of not videoing the mercenary forces with guns is very not smart.
Buildings being overtaken by bad guys with guns is a COUP. THE MEDIA SHOULD BE REPORTING A COUP
I think it’s Keith Schiller and KS Global Group they’re using.
Schiller has run $Trumps private militia for decades. MAGA politicians and the Marlago Cheeto suckers have been using him. Now he’s back on the government dole.
Ever seen clips of people dissing the word "moist"?
Debra Messing has one.
It's a thing because 'moist" is worthy of being cringeworthy.
I get that same reaction when I hear "DOGE"
Best said with an exaggerated accent to sound extra slimy
"doʊʒ" (similar to "dough" + "zh" as in "beige")
Call Debra
It’s not about race, religion, identity, gender, or ability. It’s about economics.
The powerful use race, religion, gender, and ability against us because we care more about them than money. They use our moral impulse against us because they have denied their own. #Empathy #Inclusion #Acceptance
I am agreeing with your post and adding that we together are the solution. We need to realize that what they use against us isn’t what they care about.
We need to stop letting them push our buttons and start pushing back on theirs. Economic protests that last more than a day; boycotts; strikes.
The DOGE Boys threatened to bring in US Marshals to "clear the building." It's ridiculous to blame the Federal Workers for this chaos. Talk about blaming the victim!!
Those security are usually min wage earners who have pistols and maybe 8 hrs of free arms training. The mercenaries have M4s, pistols, flash bangs and literally hundreds of thousands res down range in training. Asking a mall cop to stand up to a merc is suicide.
Why did they let the illegitimate traitor into office in the first place? Felon musk committed fraud when getting naturalized, AND committed the felony of election tampering... why was he permitted to keep doing that without any law enforcement action?
You're basically trying to defend the people who stood by and watched the coup going on for four years and did absolutely nothing to stop it, then lost their jobs.
It's not one person, it's the entire federal government.
While the rank and file don't deserve to lose their jobs because their bosses are idiots, the reality is that by ignoring the coup that was going on in plain sight for the past four years, the federal government inflicted this hell on itself and on the country.
It is all bona fide nutso. Obeying in advance doesn't even begin to explain the unimaginable abdication we are witnessing, including by our elected officials, who are allowing this to happen. Active defiance should be the default in the face of the rampant illegality of Musk and his mutant incels.
Fine they are being escorted out but why give up the passwords and the way it operates? When they fight for their jobs they will call them unreliable and irresponsible. Trust me.
If I were a federal employee and a group of unidentified people without previous official announcement stormed into my office, turned on white noise, and threatened me, I would think it was an act of terrorism and invoke the 2nd Amendment. That would have been the end of their raids.
I was thinking that too. But of course I assume that all Americans carry guns everywhere. Meanwhile I’m sure there are rules about not having them in an office
Yeah it’s a nice fantasy but law enforcement will support their side, not our side. If you act up or even just peacefully protest genocide, you’re an enemy of the state, and will be dealt with. Us and our guns can’t win against military force. There will have to be martyrs.
Military force is very different domestically. Their families aren’t safe like when they play away games. Their priorities tend to change when they see their children set on fire.
Members of congress are truly scared for their lives and their families lives due to Trump's homegrown miltia. It's not right. You must always stand up to the bully.
I have the same question. If everyone in the offices stood up and said fuck you and pulled out their phones and started recording everything and instantly posting it, things would be different, imho.
I’m with you, but in this climate, they were probably scared of retribution. It could also be in their employment contracts that they can’t film within government offices, but yeah, personally, I’m with you. I feel like the risk/benefit to society would’ve been a good thing to weigh.
Sorry, 'protecting' is the wrong word. No one is giving instructions on how to handle them. If DOGE walks in with hired security, then I assume you should tell thand call the cops and try to have DOGE trespassed from the property. Not happening? Someone up high isn't doing their job at these places.
I have had almost no violent encounters in my life just a couple, at least as a teenager and older. I'm confident that if it comes down to that I will be able to defend myself and my family at least for a moment. but at 70 I don't have too many.
Oh, my whole life has been filled with violence.Child/teen abuse,fights,CSA,SA,trafficking etc.I am used to fighting.What I am not used to is people just giving in.I don't understand.But I also have CPTSD & am always ready for survival.I would hope honestly that someone would step up & protect you.
Oh sheesh. I am so sorry. Like my husband and I both have a plan if shit hits the fan. I have elderly neighbors and children all over my neighborhood. Those are who we are protecting first, after ourselves ofc bc we can't help anyone if we aren't ok. We are also blessed, I guess from my
I was raised that if you run your mouth, prepare for a fight. If you are threatened, you don't take a knee. If someone is coming at you, you don't back down.
This is why we now have hand guns, shotguns, & rifles in our home. I was 65 when I bought my first one in 2016. We also have a crossbow and am looking at a compound bow. Living as a blue dot in a red state has never been so frightening.
We? They are able bodied. Also, if you read everything, you would have realized we were talking about why aren’t there cops stopping this. Why are the US Marshals cooperating. Why is anyone cooperating. Why aren’t Dems doing something. Don’t be fucking rude. It was a conversation.
Yeah. I mean, I used to be afraid of even being alive, but I have never understood being afraid of another person. I don't understand how they are just pushing their way in. Don't we have cops to stop this kinda thing?
Oh no, we know what side they’re on. They are on the side where they’re going to get immunity to do whatever they want to any of us especially those of us with brown skin just like in South Africa during apartheid
Those are all excellent legal questions that the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) requires of DOGE. And Journalists should keep asking those questions. Unfortunately, this is a rogue lawless regime that doesn't care about following the law. But I agree, we should still ask.
My guess is that there are guns behind the geeks. Prince Elmo and King Ding Dong get everything they want because of threats. People fall out of windows in Russia, I dont see how the new rulers of America would act any different. How else describe the total capitulation to our sworn enemies?
this is my exact question - why are we guessing? it seems to be some sort of very wellgaurded secret. do they have big armed security details with them? why isn't this known?
I’m keep waiting for the hero. Who is in charge of the diet cokes? The McDonalds deliveries? Didn’t anyone watch breaking bad? Does king Ding Dong have a good taster?🤣
My guess is that you are compelled to obey what your own security apparatus believes is true. Since most of the security personnel can’t be bothered to think critically, they’re told DOGE is in control and thus use their power to do dumb things, like prevent employees from entering the building.
Not that they are servile, they have never encountered animals like this. They know they will get violent and love every minute of beating up a older person, or attempting to degrade them..
They are servile. So what if they never encountered people like this? We all knew this was going to happen and even If they didn't, it doesn't change anything.
The African brought in the dregs that have no qualms because the morons think he can/will protect them. He won't, just like the orange scumbag he would be grateful when they go to jail.
It’s a great question! I genuinely do not understand how this is working. If DOGE has no authority, and Elon is not the head of DOGE, whom is actually firing people? Whom is communicating it back to the payroll systems. Trump has the authority, however I do not see him signing everyone’s dismissals.
NO ONE is doing anything…I have a relative who is on their second week of “admin time”, performing NO work bc Muskrat said they would be counting keystrokes and phone access. Checks are still coming out. Classic ghost employment, which Musk et al can be charged with.
Same reason why Germans obeyed Hitler. 1. They think it is their job. 2. Later when they realise what is really happening they fear to get consequences if they do not. 3. Or they think they can get something out of it from themselves.
Well, if they are fired, they won't have a chance to do them. It's not like they're going to hire someone more competent. They're just cutting everything and everyone to "save" federal money...so they could go directly into trump-musk wallet.
Trump's words, Make people happy. Give them a stimulus check, get them on your side. Federal government control of DC. The police forced to protect the capital?
Let's get rid of some of these generals. Elon will check all the computer systems.
Read the book, the perfect coup.
I think someone needs to say - ok shoot me in front of my fellow employees because I’m not giving you that information.
If anyone got shot for protecting the citizens of the USA it would call attention to the COUP.
Yes, look for the videos of Congress people trying to enter... I'm not sure, not the Treasury but maybe CFPB. It's the Dept of Education, NY Times, Feb 7, 2025.
there are just no, none pix of doge trying to gain access and having some kind of force detail with them... it's like they are blackholing how they got in (and everything they do).
I don't know why there haven't been intimidating counter measures. There's way more worker's than the doge and their police. Make a human chain. Stand together. Make them use force against you as a united front.
I can tell you I’m great a this kind of conflict. I was raised in DV and I know that sometimes it’s worth it to stand your ground.
The worst they can do is arrest you and beat you up. If there are 20 of you and 5 of them it’s over.
They cannot shoot you. They are not employed by the USA government.
Auditing involves oversight and transparency and no actions taken until the audit is concluded and interventions decided on by forensic accountants lol. Not a bunch of hackers rooting through everything and firing people who have important functions like NUCLEAR SECURITY lol
Ha! While “checking for scams,” Musk has awarded himself around 700 million in new contracts. Go check your facts. There is no “checking” going on, there is widespread destruction of our government institutions & civil servant’s livelihoods. How are 100,000’s of them to feed/house their families?
this is you waiting for doge to tell you what to tell everyone doge is doing while doge fires everyone in every agency investigating musk businesses and opening up jobs for south afrikaaners for his new aphartheid state
LMAO tell me you know nothing about governance in a single post. There were audits like all the time, as well as other mechanisms to ensure tax dollars are used wisely. Musk, via Trump, dismantled many of those mechanisms (the illegal firings of IG's across several key agencies for example).
They're rightfully upset because a shadow government is gaining access to sensative information and handling it in wildly irresponsible ways (posting it to DOGE's site without any data protection, the definite usage for Musk's businesses, and more).
We've HAD a glimpse for how the oligarchy worked for like a decade after Citizen's United, this is shifting it into a new gear with Musk as the primary oligarch. Musk and the billionaire oligarchs are not your friend. They are not on your side. They are only on their own side.
DOGE didn't "discover" this. It was public record since last year, both through the government's own tracking tools, and the org's own website. And Abrams barely had a hand in it at all. She was an outside advisor to one of five smaller groups that made up the larger org. You're just a liar.
There's a reason you have to source from the Free Beacon, and it's because it's such a fucking non story being pushed by right wing rags to rile you up because they know you're fucking stupid enough to swallow their tripe without verification. Eat shit you stupid cunt.
Fear. Capitalism has forced us into a system wherein we have almost no support network (from the gov't, friends, family) because no one can sustain it, so it's better to survive and give up your ethics than die.
Have we even heard stories from the federal workers fired and evicted from their workplaces? I keep waiting for a “60 Minutes” story or something. We literally have no idea what one of these DOGE raids looks like.
There was a great article in the Atlantic yesterday with sources inside USAID and other agencies that deep dives on this. Shared byline but I know Charlie Wurzel was one of the reporters on it
The federal workforce serves the American public, who voted for Trump. Trump has put his misfit cabinet picks in charge of these agencies. Rules are set up so that people do what the administration wants them to do or be fired. Not everyone can resign like sr. execs. Sick kids, college, elder care.
And to be clear, the cabinets are directing them to cooperate with DOGE. We were never prepared for anything like this in America. And we’re paying for it now.
Because they exist and invade with the authority of the “elected king”. And so far the left is obeying the law and rules. We need armed resistance to resist DOGE and our new king.
Okay, you start with the armed stuff and be our meat shield. /s
Stop calling for violence unless you're willing to go first, ffs. People are going to get slaughtered because Felon47 will call out the troops. Don't you understand that?
Giving him an excuse to legitimately use the Insurrection Act against us and even declare marshal law would be foolish, imo. They’re much better armed than we could dream of being.
I understand your point and feel like that’s why people have been careful
NOT to do so, but as they continue to not only dismantle government, but people”s lives…it’s coming. Like it or not, people are going to be forced to fight back with means outside of democracy paper filings and letters.
As I said, massive civil disobedience is what’s going to right this ship, imo. A general strike; tax strike; massive street protests; targeted boycotts — all sorts of things that aren’t about filing lawsuits - those the lawsuits are important too. Guns won’t solve this. Not imo.
My theory has to do with who's guarding the henhouse. Check out the security service Triple Canopy & who owns the company. Look at Constellis, with Blackwater roots. It's a professional military organization. They train at Blackwater's Training Center.
I likely didn’t get enough info, then. I was under the impression that they were informed later by a WH rep that they were dismissed. Ie, Musk crying to Dad to make the mean people go away.
Either way, it’s 8 ways to Fucked Up.
They are freezing their logins and computers immediately and “supposedly” get paid if they leave and don’t if they don’t cooperate. That’s my best guess.
Defying means job loss without the assurance that the job loss will actually stand in the way and without the assurance that the job loss will be overturned in court.
A fat smelly idiot who could have them marched off to Gitmo in handcuffs & apparently there’s nothing anyone can or would be willing to do to protect them.
Seriously? We have Dems voting to approve trump’s nominees.Mueller report proved Russian interference in 2016 election. Dems 🦗🦗 J6 proved insurrection. Dems 🦗🦗 When do you think the country is going to wake up and realize that NEITHER party cares one iota about us. Their jobs are FAR more important.
Not complicated: their jobs are at risk. When everyone around you is getting fired and your boss comes to you and says "do this" and you say "I don't want to," your choice is to leave your job or do what's being asked. People need confidence to buck authority and risk losing their paycheck 1/
ESPECIALLY when they are government workers whose specialized skills and training make them not immediately hire-able in the private sector. Ppl who take these jobs (and I almost did) are seeking security and stability; their security has been threatened 2/
To get over that fear and make the risk of losing one's job worth it, that takes political organizing. That takes someone coming in and leading the charge to show individuals that our strength in numbers enables us to push back on things that immoral or illegal. 3/3
Right-- they start at the top and work their way down. Employees are getting these directives from their bosses, who are getting it from THEIR bosses, etc. You can wish that those up high would step down, but once they step down, it's over, and then DOGE or whoever didn't have a spine is left
There's no reason to obey Doh. It's not an "agency." It has no authority. It's an infiltrator that needs to be stopped from violating the privacy of everyone in the US in every way possible
Someone blocked me after I explained my answer above. I will rewrite it here for others.
George's question implies that the DOGE lacks legitimacy, validity, or authority. That has not been established yet. If he thinks the orders are not valid, he should say that. As far I know, the orders are
To answer his question, "Why are they obeying" is to accept that the orders are NOT valid before that fact has been established. By asking "Why would they not obey?" we might hear why George thinks the orders are not valid.
I don't know of things like that. It was George's point to make. He posited a question which required the info your shared to be understood. Thanks for the answer.
I’m guessing people get locked out of the system. If it’s like Canadian federal jobs, you need key cards to get in and passwords to access any of your work.
Office jobs anyway.
But that doesn’t mean you can’t stay in the building as a protest.
I don't know and it drives me fucking crazy. Did they take a different oath to protect the constitution? Or else the Oath has really changed since I was in.
Seriously! At least put up a show of trying to stop them then getting ordered down. But this, all officials getting thrown out of the building while non-elected foreigners gather data for their fucking Labor camps, shit needs to be stopped.
They bring their own paramilitary force along with them. And I doubt they're asking politely. To the people saying you should stand your ground and get arrested, if they showed up with a gun and handcuffs, the game is over. They don't have to call anybody, and you have committed no crime.
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it's also why you see people resigning and retiring instead of agreeing to do things they think are illegal
It’s not insubordination if the person breaking into your office is not an employee of the federal government.
so open pushback is limited to security and ethics as governed by law
civil servants cannot openly defy a directive based on a policy disagreement unless they are prepared to be fired for insubordination
Even if they just say they are authority
& people are too conditioned, plus fear driven & caught off guard to push back
Which was the point & plan all along
When I was 8, I asked our pastor "If everyone died in the flood except Noah's family, where did Black & Asian people come from?" Never got an answer & he avoided me for the next 9 years. 🤣
Guard. It’s illegal trespass until proven otherwise.
They have zero accountability.
What exactly will happen if or when someone tells DOGE, "NO, GO AWAY!!!"
And the fact no one has done that yet is a great question.
will be "accidentally" fired.
DOGE has charged the taxpayers far MORE $$ than the AG's salaries!
Waste, fraud, and abuse! Fire DOGE!
Someone steals your private information without your consent, they are caught and prosecuted. So these Doges take everything, and why aren’t they arrested? Why are we seemingly accepting this? Help.
There's no saving act.
There's only punched them till they're dead.
Buildings being overtaken by bad guys with guns is a COUP. THE MEDIA SHOULD BE REPORTING A COUP
It broke on Feb 8th
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/20/politics/elon-musk-private-security-deputized-marshals-service/index.html
Schiller has run $Trumps private militia for decades. MAGA politicians and the Marlago Cheeto suckers have been using him. Now he’s back on the government dole.
Debra Messing has one.
It's a thing because 'moist" is worthy of being cringeworthy.
I get that same reaction when I hear "DOGE"
Best said with an exaggerated accent to sound extra slimy
"doʊʒ" (similar to "dough" + "zh" as in "beige")
Call Debra
#UNITEANDFIGHT
The powerful use race, religion, gender, and ability against us because we care more about them than money. They use our moral impulse against us because they have denied their own. #Empathy #Inclusion #Acceptance
We need to stop letting them push our buttons and start pushing back on theirs. Economic protests that last more than a day; boycotts; strikes.
The police. Those people are not government employees.
The federal government has institutionalized cowardice and stupidity over duty.
*”rds” (rounds) not “res”
Autocorrect… good grief
If they lock your access pass out of the Building ?
Take your Computer ?
Lock you out of system?
Not pay you ?
Explain to me what choices do they have ?
Your response might be the dumbest I have heard on the Internet! Ever !
It's not one person, it's the entire federal government.
Carney ?
Who ?
Also, pretty sure they've threatened to fire whole teams if someone doesn't step up (eg Pam Bondi forcing the Adams charges to drop)
As in, Musk is Putin’s DOGE.
The reality is that most federal government workers who stay for the long haul do it for the job security.
This is unfettered Capitalism. Democracy was never the big experiment, Capitalism is
where are its offices located?
what is its charter?
who are its officers?
where can i find its bylaws, policies, and procedures?
by what authority does it act?
to whom is it accountable?
to what oversight is it subject?
just asking questions"
Sam Brody
that, in addition to the 100% utter opacity of doggie ops in general
This is the man who opened the gates at Social Security
I said, “you’re not in my chain of command,” & put the envelope in the criss cross shredder.
It took awhile but my boss gave me an updated letter,
😭😂😭😂
Let's get rid of some of these generals. Elon will check all the computer systems.
Read the book, the perfect coup.
If anyone got shot for protecting the citizens of the USA it would call attention to the COUP.
You hunt them down and prosecute them like the criminals they are.
The worst they can do is arrest you and beat you up. If there are 20 of you and 5 of them it’s over.
They cannot shoot you. They are not employed by the USA government.
We’re starting to get a glimpse of how all these political actors get rich, setup NGOs and have your buddies send you money.
https://freebeacon.com/newsletters/doge-exposes-2-billion-in-taxpayer-funds-set-aside-for-stacey-abramss-green-group-plus-karen-bass-leads-the-department-of-buck-passing/
You think it’s normal for a nonprofit that only pulled in $100 previously to just get $2 billion dumped on them?
Or some abandoned building in CA being the HQ of an org getting $500 million?
https://bsky.app/profile/prestigeworldwide1.bsky.social/post/3likkbeaqfs27
They provide all the links to their tax filings right in the article and their own website announced the $2 billion.
It’s indefensible though so you’ll just try to change the subject.
Sending funds to your buddy’s ngo is considered business as usual with them.
Look at where the money is going and realizing there’s a ton of fraud is something they have never done.
These children have no idea what an audit is.
They're hackers.
But bless your heart for believing and reposting right wing propaganda.
Many reasons, I guess.
Courage is the antidote to fear.
Courage anyone?
Stop calling for violence unless you're willing to go first, ffs. People are going to get slaughtered because Felon47 will call out the troops. Don't you understand that?
NOT to do so, but as they continue to not only dismantle government, but people”s lives…it’s coming. Like it or not, people are going to be forced to fight back with means outside of democracy paper filings and letters.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-private-security-detail-deputized-by-us-marshals-service/
Either way, it’s 8 ways to Fucked Up.
And there’s a lot of stupids?
https://bsky.app/profile/steviegrrrl.bsky.social/post/3lipdhtro422t
Even if they know DOGE’s authority is legally rickety, they’re afraid of the consequences from the Oval if they resist.
Recent history says Trump will just shove an Executive Order up their ass and make the courts settle it
George's question implies that the DOGE lacks legitimacy, validity, or authority. That has not been established yet. If he thinks the orders are not valid, he should say that. As far I know, the orders are
We can't know that until he answers.
As for the answer to your question, an advisor to the president has no authority over anyone in the Executive branch.
An executive angency must tie back to a law and cannot operate outside the scope of that law.
1. They also hate America.
2. They are cowards.
3. They don't understand that they are being asked to break the law.
Office jobs anyway.
But that doesn’t mean you can’t stay in the building as a protest.
What exactly will happen if or when someone tells DOGE, "NO, GO AWAY!!!"
And why hasn't anyone done that yet is a great question.