No the American people love their medicare what they don't like is how you maga republican s are going to try to take away their social security and medicare it won't happen
Yes our healthcare system is not working for most Americans and I don’t know anyone who loves insurance companies. But do we want to become people who cheer at the murder of another human being? I sure as heck don’t.
You can just feel the energy of senior democrats getting ready to make a statement about how sad it is that the united healthcare CEO got got while millions of Americans are in full on lol he deserved it mode.
Out of touch doesn’t even begin to touch on where democrats live - basically on mars.
Members of Congress know Pharma and Big Insurance are ripping off the system. They bought off members to guarantee outrageous profits for their industries. Even look at the new insulin price. $35. In Australia they pay $7. Congress permits this profiteering and the people are sick of it. Shameful!
Few things unite Americans more effectively than rich assholes suffering terrible fates. Goes to show that our societal conflict isn't so much left/right as it is the rich fuckers pitting the rest of us against one another.
How could anyone be confused about the joy being expressed by the death of someone who was the overload of a corporate structure that sentenced millions to death? So weird.
If Harris had not hired Clinton and DNC advisors and consultants, someone could have told her that she needed to run as a challenger, but alas, she ran as an incumbent.
They don’t want to know why. They just want an easy, uncomplicated life and thinking about government backed economic violence directed at the poors is very sad and complicated.
but they will not miss an opportunity to chastise and look down their noses any time someone gets a laugh from some rich parasite getting cosmic comeuppance.
Remembering that Rick Scott settled the Medicare fraud case against him for hundreds of millions of dollars. The largest case of its kind in history. And he's a US Senator. No justice there.
Sad but true. You pay $12-15K for "coverage" for a family and then you have a $6K deductible. Yeah, that's a Texas sized fuck you right there. The masses getting hosed are out of fucks to give.
I remember my friend whose little girl got cancer having to shell out $500 a month for parking. They had to do fundraisers to get her the care she needed. It's only a problem if it affects the rich guys.
This one tragic event highlights two reasons why the US isn’t the great country, many of its citizens claim. First, America's healthcare insurance costs rank as the most expensive in the world. Second lack of gun control.
You beat me to it. It looks like every shot hit it's mark. The people saying that this had to be a "professional hit.
All I saw was determination and planning that any motivated person who's not an idiot could demonstrate.
I don’t care wtf you think of healthcare in this country, this was a man with a family, a life, and a job he did not deserve to die for. If you cheer this on you are despicable.
Health insurance companies are judge, jury and executioner on people’s lives, across physical health, mental health and financial wellbeing.
Answering only to their shareholders.
I gotta say that this situation is the most connected and same page the whole country has been on in ages. Haven’t seen anyone argue. Everyone same side (in every comment section I’ve seen!)
The US sick-care program is an international joke and embarrassment. Americans opt for ruining their lives because rich people tell them that's best. Laughable from ever perspective.
I'm in a sh-t mood today so that colors what I'm about to say but it enrages me that this man's death is commanding top headline of every major media outlet. Ok a rich guy who ran a big co got shot. This is the US; lots of people get shot every day, sadly. He is not more deserving of our attn
THANK YOU!! I'd love to discuss the 16 kids or teachers who died by a gun at school this year but I'm sure it's still too freaking early and I'd be making it political. Instead, let's focus on the rich f-ck who gleefully denied thousands of people healthcare after they paid for insurance.
Every time I talk to my mom on the phone, she rants about UHC. This morning I texted her after I saw the news. She texted back, and I quote: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
God, even if they do catch the guy, they're NEVER going to be able to put together a jury that will convict him! They'll have to move the trial to another COUNTRY, one with universal healthcare!
Or the judge will forbid mentioning what he did as a job, stating irrelevance, just like they manipulated the Kenosha shooter's case to not include the incriminating intent to kill on TikTok.
Other countries can't comprehend why we don't have universal healthcare. Move it to another country and they'll just try to find a way to convict the UHC CEO posthumous.
A childish response that disrespects and discounts human life. As much suffering as this individual was certainly responsible for, a virtuous circle in dialectic, rather than a vicious one, will encourage better conduct over the entropy of dichotomic thinking and moral absolutism.
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C'mon people. Stop hating on this guy.
If you had ever been yachting with him, you'd know just how much of a mensch he really is.
A hell of a father too. How many dads will replace their sons' luxury sports cars whenever they wreck them, no questions asked.
UHC put me in $5,000 debt by not covering my therapist for the only year i had their coverage at a highly stressful job I was subsequently, and unjustly, fired from and then lost this coverage that was bullshit to begin with.
The best bet is to opt for a nuanced response: Acknowledge how much pain and suffering this individual is responsible for, condemn it, but never act gleeful in death or childishly Godwin and compare people to Nazis. Dichotomic thinking is best left for religion and black/white thinking.
How many people did this man knowingly kill for profit do you think? How much pain and suffering during the worst times of their lives did he personally sign off on in order to earn his salary?
Who is gleeful here? And what of those he indirectly murdered by denying healthcare, or those he put in debt FOR their healthcare? He and his company chose profits over human lives. Period.
Two wrongs do not make a right. Asking in whataboutist fashion about the horrors of profit over human life he partook in says nothing about our independent choice to partake in virtuous over vicious circles of action. No one should normalize laughing at a human being's death.
you sound like the kinda guy to get mad at US soldiers storming Normandy because "i-if we kill the Nazis, we'll be as bad as them!" This isn't some Saturday morning cartoon.
This is why I mentioned Godwin almost as quickly as possible. If we devolve every death and person we don't like to Goebbels and Goering, a more reductive and dichotomic view of morality and value of human life is bound to take shape. For the record, plenty of scholars opine on Dresden/Churchill.
Again, who is laughing?? No one is gleeful or laughing over here. Just stating facts. Take your virtue signaling and send it to those who deserve it. ✌🏼
Alright, so I'll concede you're not individually laughing but instead issuing either justifications, or if not justifications, then normalizing laughing emojis at a human being's death while their family is in tears. Stating "facts" for such a normalization isn't a far jump ethically.
This, unfortunately, is an inherent aspect of exploitative capitalism writ large. If you're going to apply it here, and you think something slightly less explicit from second-order effects is more hyperbolic, I don't know what to tell you vis a vis fascism and systematic xenophobic slaughter.
We have to stop saying it’s a “system.” It’s a hodgepodge. There are systems within it - Medicaid (fractured by state), VA (the only real system), Tricare (who what?) - but no overarching approach to providing insurance, never mind *actual health care*, to all.
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*thinks of executive father and sweats*
Put your investigative powers to work and get us some answers.
Thanks, Kenny! 🖤
Grannie Ruth on her ipad
FIFY
Out of touch doesn’t even begin to touch on where democrats live - basically on mars.
https://bsky.app/profile/amyklobuchar.com/post/3lcii2pkll22s
it’s a good thing we just had an election where the two options for fixing the system boiled down to:
1.) slightly expanded home healthcare coverage
2.) absolutely nothing
They won’t even allow false promises now
https://youtu.be/ey1-qkznUyE?si=eURNHOKBhzPJMw3-
Wait.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-healthcare-executive-shot-dead-outside-manhattan-hotel-13266807
All I saw was determination and planning that any motivated person who's not an idiot could demonstrate.
Answering only to their shareholders.
In this case, it happens to align with the facts though.
Society has been pushed and pushed and pushed. But they still expect kindness and empathy.
Mirrors the Oceangate incident.
It was multiple lines of the laugh-cry emoji, I kinda winged it lol.
If you had ever been yachting with him, you'd know just how much of a mensch he really is.
A hell of a father too. How many dads will replace their sons' luxury sports cars whenever they wreck them, no questions asked.
"Oh my God, that poor man!"
but
"Yeah, that man who shot him probably got screwed over by the healthcare system in some way."
Kinda has a deleterious effect on people not on the payroll, but chained to the paying rolls!
This guy made money from his business plan of killing people & made huge political contributions
How is that not a valid comparison?
I am NOT cynical enough.