rewatching Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory and I had forgotten what a mensch Charlie Bucket is. mf gives his hard-earned food and even his spare change to his mom and grandparents. can’t help but feel good that things work out for him.
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It's always grieved me that the grandpa is too old and sick to get out of bed, so requires waiting on hand and foot, except for when there's a free visit to the chocolate factory when all of a sudden he's tickety boo. Not cool grandpa, not cool.
Gene Wilder is the ONLY Willy Wonka. Johnny Depp is awesome, but that movie sucked. I don't even want to talk about that timothy chalamet crap. I walked out after 27 minutes and got a refund. I was not the only one.
The outfits were ok, I guess, and cosplay is always fun, but i stand by my opinion of the movie being terrible. However, i don't want to stop anyone else from enjoying a bad movie. That is not my intention at all.
And Wilder said he’d take the role on the condition that he do this fall and somersault! He wanted audiences to know from the start that Wonka wasn’t necessarily trustworthy.
There is a very funny joke in the movie I believe was also in the book. The part where they are licking the wallpaper and Gene says "snozzberries"....those are lower male protuberances. Dicks. So not only was Dahl wanting to kill children in the most insane ways he also made sure they tasted their..
Willy: I got the golden ticket. I'm taking grandpa joe ...
Grandpa Joe: *gets up and dances*
Willy continues: ... to the nursing home on the way to the factory.
I just rewatched that this year as well! I agree with your observation, and wondered if that was expected in that time? I was particularly struck by the commentary on social class.
If you don't mind me saying this I found the film a bit odd. One thing that always struck me is that this presumably takes place in a US town. But it doesn't really resemble one. Then when they do the long helicopter shot at the end it clearly isn't a city anywhere in America. I think...
... it's one of the Bavarian towns in Germany. I actually traveled through a couple of them when I toured Europe (I was 20 years old with a backpack and a Eurail pass). I guess you could call them story book villages because that's what they resemble.
And the other thing that I noticed when watching that film was that the man who sang the Candyman song was positively gruesome looking. Why they chose such a scary looking actor to sing that, I'll never understand.
Well let's say that the location here seems to be pretty vague. And it's been so many years since I read the book, I can't remember if a specific location was cited. And the only reason I knew about the helicopter shot was because I had visited towns like that. It looked very familiar.
Watching Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory always brings back childhood memories! Charlie Bucket's goodness is infectious, and it's amazing how a story from our youth can still evoke such strong feelings of joy and warmth.
And Grandpa Joe….
Lying in bed for years on end talking about how much he wants to help the family.
Charlie comes home with a golden ticket to a chocolate theme park, he springs right out bed.😑
Unbelievable
Their characters were all in competition for Wonka's prize, but the actresses playing Veruca and Violet both developed youthful crushes on Charlie's actor and competed as to who got to sit next to him on set.
Whatever heavy positive vibes Charlie gave off were apparently not just in character.
Meanwhile, Grandpa Joe is a dick. Lays in bed living off his daughter and grandson and only gets out of bed when there’s a chance to cash in the golden ticket.
His grandpa was depressed to the point of being bed ridden. In literary terms he was one step from death due to depression. The golden ticket gave him the hope to continue on. Do we support the depressed around here? Take it easy on Joe.
The concept of situational depression didn’t exist in 1970 when the movie was made. In the book the dad lost his job and the family nearly starved to death that winter before Charlie found the golden ticket. The old people were bedridden to conserve energy.
.......people becoming depressed, laying down, then eventually dying due to depression has been represented in literature since the BC years. That is what is represented in the movie.
Starvation is a pretty reliable cause of death. I would argue it’s pretty much 100% fatal. And a book/movie can’t portray a situation people of that time had no concept of. It was meant to be a lot more straightforward.
I don’t think grandpa was meant to be written as a dick either. He had a sense of playfulness, which is what nearly lost them the factory. He isn’t calculating, depressed or a grifter. They all just sort of live life on the surface, not really thinking about what a drain they are on their kids.
It's my favorite movie of all time. ALL of life lessons are right there in one movie!!
This is what is going to happen to ALL the petulant, obnoxious, bratty Republicans. Too soon? Or not soon enough!
Merry Christmas
Fun fact? He would only do the film if he walk out with a limp and cane before the famous roll and pop up smiling. That way the audience knew could really tell if Wonka lying or not.
I'm over here wondering if Grandpa did some swapping as spry as he turns out to be.
Next time I watch, I'm definitely looking for upside down pineapples.
Meanwhile, grandpa Joe was an absolute freeloader and when his grandson won a golden ticket he broke out into a dance and sang “I’ve got a golden ticket…” What a grifter.
I hate grandpa Joe. Bed ridden, making his daughter and grandson work their lives away for twenty years. But for a trip to a chocolate factory he drags his selfish ass out of bed.
In Gothenburg, Sweden it's playing in the Opera. We gave our grandchildren tickets.
A very glittering Willys Wonka to look forward to.https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/ola-salo-spelar-willy-wonka-i-charlie-och-chokladfabriken-pa-goteborgsoperan
The actor who played grandpa joe was apparently not great irl. In interviews years prior to the film he complained about black people being so sensitive and lacking humor that minstrel shows were no longer being preformed. Evidently he worked as a comedian to boot.
Charley instinctually knew what was important in life. In the last scene, where he comes clean with Willy, he does the right thing, fesses up, and is rewarded.
As fantastical as this might seem, life works this way when society rewards all contributors, not just the leaders.
Have you seen the RedLetterMedia review of the movie? They reach a pretty nuanced conclusion similar to yours, but with a twist about one of the other characters.
Poor, kind-hearted Charlie got stuck with having Grandpa Joe for a grandfather. Grandpa Joe was the king of grifters. The whole bit of him dancing when Charlie got the ticket is beyond me why the mom didn't slap the life out of him. I mean, come on, an invalid before and now you're dancing?!?
I have this on Fandango at home. Now I feel compelled to watch again.
I don't care that tim Burton and Johnny depp remade it. The gene wilder version is the only one that counts.
And is a super low key great guy; met him at a local event.
His team all call him “Charlie”.
He said he liked doing Willy Wonka but decided that acting wasn’t for him. 👍
listening to the Everlasting Minute podcast, i developed head canon theory that Grandpa Joe ran a scheme that went south and resulted in Charlie's dad getting killed.
You know... normally I kind of roll my eyes a little at the "fan revisionism" stuff as it often comes off as being done to be contrary, but this is an actual rare reasonable well-thought out one of those so I approve.
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Let it go! The frozen song
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU
Tickles me
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TeQ_TTyLGMs
Amidst the most amusing
Expressions
Jingle nice ring to this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WKaIjiGrpfY
Grandpa Joe: *gets up and dances*
Willy continues: ... to the nursing home on the way to the factory.
Lying in bed for years on end talking about how much he wants to help the family.
Charlie comes home with a golden ticket to a chocolate theme park, he springs right out bed.😑
Unbelievable
Whatever heavy positive vibes Charlie gave off were apparently not just in character.
It's clearly in England, but Grandpa Joe and Willy Wonka do not have British accents.
It's my favorite movie of all time. ALL of life lessons are right there in one movie!!
This is what is going to happen to ALL the petulant, obnoxious, bratty Republicans. Too soon? Or not soon enough!
Merry Christmas
Next time I watch, I'm definitely looking for upside down pineapples.
A very glittering Willys Wonka to look forward to.https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/ola-salo-spelar-willy-wonka-i-charlie-och-chokladfabriken-pa-goteborgsoperan
Cairo 1990
Just a shame Dahl was such a racist bastard IRL. The book is... problematic at times.
Not quite the singing guys from the film
I love the books but the 2nd one I liked more
I actually love both versions & the new Wonka. I think there were more similarities w/the Dep version than the older version
Dahl actually hated the original movie
I had always wondered why no one made a film of his 2nd Charlie book
As fantastical as this might seem, life works this way when society rewards all contributors, not just the leaders.
https://youtu.be/Inf5du8u7OE?si=aZKj5YCtweIlTm6H
I don't care that tim Burton and Johnny depp remade it. The gene wilder version is the only one that counts.
His team all call him “Charlie”.
He said he liked doing Willy Wonka but decided that acting wasn’t for him. 👍