From NYT: “‘At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain,’ Brian Hughes, the National Security Council spokesman, said in an emailed statement.” Real warfighters use Signal for war planning. I guess.
You are correct. The point of encryption is to maintain precise confidentiality. Once you accidentally include someone who shouldn't be included, it will be like your grandmother's "reply to all", making the encryption invalid and the confidentiality meaningless.
Yes, combat communications are such a critical matter, and they must be handled in accordance with regulations. Using unauthorized communication methods is too risky.
There is no NCO or Officer in the US Military that would not have been aware that texting on a text chain on Signal was not secure. No one with any care about our military would ever, ever, have done what this leadership did.
Agreed our government has much better communication equipment and encryption than signal and quite frankly they were pretty naive for using signal. It's a matter of safety that needs to be addressed. Somebody needs to held accountable for these actions personally i hope it's hegseth and waltz
It should be noted that software whose source code is publicly available and can be freely used, modified, and shared. It's not approved means for coordinating an attack. I'm not trying to give elon any credit, but he would have been able to tell them that. Encryption is only as good as its software
Though signal is renowned for its encryption , and they (signal) say they can't even see messages being sent. At that point, you just gotta take their word for it, though.
No one should have been in a chat about classified matters on an unclassified system. Signal is not a classified system and no one should be talking classified matters on it. Period. Ever. Under any circumstances. They all endangered the aircraft and aircrew involved in those operations. Out.
It truly blows me away that we haven't had a terrorist attack already with this level of incompetence. Like htf do you not notice an editor for the Atlantic on your group message?!? THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TRUST WITH OUR SECURITY AND OUR SOLDIERS?!?!?
One of the basic rules of warfare is that if you are watching your enemy compromise himself, do not interrupt. At this point the terrorist are watching in fascinated, rapt attention with trousers wet in disbelief.
One of the “others” was apparently a CIA operative that Goldberg prudently chose not to reveal the name of in his reporting. Not sure if there were other “others” though.
Whenever I see pictures like this, my first thought is always, “look at all of the white people.” Second thought…. “look at all of the white men.” I know it shouldn’t shock me anymore but it still does every time. So clear.
Not ignoring the seriousness of this but feel it needs to be said...The "National security advisor" replied in emojis on a classified bombing text. I'm surprised Hegseth didn't reply to that with eggplant emojis.
I watched "Adolescence" yesterday (a British series) & learned that the different colored hearts (♥️❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜💜🖤🩶🤍🩷) mean different things! I have texted all of them in a row to different friends at different times, just expressing mucho love.
I started to respond to this post and trailed off because I have no words to adequately convey what a cluster @#$% these people are. I am, for one of the only times in my rather long life, dumbfounded.
I’m really curious to know who added Goldberg? Maybe there is someone who wanted this to happen and come out. If not, who did they mistake him for when they added him?
That's some first-rate security and intelligence, right there. NOBODY in this group questioned who Goldberg was or why he was on this secret chat. Or why they were using a non-government secured app for war plans. All of them should be fired. Every.One! ( Except Goldberg.)
Its a felony to not only delete comms but use any communication that isnt approved and recorded in the govts systems for this exact reason of NS threats and also for investigations later.
Whatever else they were talking about was worth it to them to take the felonies rather than leave a paper trail
Where was the felon king? They just write up executive orders, bring them to him and he signs them. Now does he know what he is signing. They could sneak in one that says the only the GOP can vote, only one party
While I am sure the people in this Signal chat will gaslight the shit out of the American people, we should also pass some blame on the senators that confirmed these fuckin people.
Let’s go even further and blame the Americans who voted these idiots into Congress and Senate. Oh and presidency. American citizens are not without blame. If you voted for Trump or any of these Republican traitors, you ruined our country!
From Fox comes this idiotic quote: NSC spokesperson Brian Hughes said. "The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to troops or national security." WTAF?
They should already be in shackles and sent to the 3rd-world prisons where they've instead been illegally sending migrants and other brown people to be tortured
Every reporter should ask each admin secretary “How many Signal text chains are you on to conduct government business while skirting numerous federal laws?”
“Are you convinced that Signal is more secure than US Government secure communications systems?”
I don't think Hegseth is smart (or sober) enough for that. Unless you mean they appointed him knowing he would such an abusive f&@k up that he would provide cover for her.
Apparently war plans are not classified. Mike Shultz just made it worse lying obfuscating taking zero accountability, typical of this administration. Trump basically blamed Biden.
He was 10 toes deep in Gabbard, Petal, and Radcliffe's ass. The look on their faces while he was going in on them ... reminded me of The Beave from Leave It To Beaver when he was in deep trouble ... Dipschits!
Jack Teixeira published classified docs on Discord, pled guilty for unauthorized retention/transmission of natl defense info violating the Espionage Act of 1917.
Reality Winner got 5 years for one document about Russian election interference.
Trump "got off" - having stolen dozens of boxes of classified docs and revealed secret information to unauthorized persons.
Yes, including a reporter.
I've been on zoom calls where nobody's lives are at risk, and everybody still has to announce their name and how they are connected to the issue. Did everybody in this chat just assume he was someone else's deputy?
Amazing that so many of our top Intelligence Officials didn't have the intelligence to notice a member in the chat they didn't recognize while discussing top secret war plans on an app they should have had the intelligence to know they shouldn't be using for top secret discussions
Wow, I would expect inside information that was ever needed to be communicated to reporters would be reviewed by a communications director for clearance and timing.
I'm assuming you're right in most cases, this is probably a case of phone numbers being used for potential interviews or even off the record chats
But in the case of the clown car running intel for this administration ... I wouldn't be surprised if Hegseth shared top secret info with cheap hookers
“Slippery Pete”
One would think those interviews would also need clearance and go thru an admin office.
Either way, they all have to go. The fast and furious was to take our eyes off the incompetence.
"I accepted the connection request, hoping that this was the actual national security adviser, and that he wanted to chat about Ukraine, or Iran, or some other important matter."
So, contacts: likely yes; but not group chats like this was.
This makes me wonder how many of these "top secret" plans have been spilled and NOT been revealed to the public. I mean, putin probably knows all of them, but who else? And a commercial app such as Signal? They're using THAT to communicate?!?
It is so sloppy and indicative of incompetence to use Signal for top secret war planning ... by America's intel leaders!
But in terms of top secret info, I'm assuming with Trump, Tulsi, and likely other Russian Agents Trump has installed, Putin knows 100% of America's top secrets already
With the end-to-end encryption, Signal may itself be secure but it's those endpoints on presumably standard commercial cell phones that are obviously not at all secure, and are compromised frequently (that you read about) and all the time (that you don't).
I know. I'd be scared to go through their phones. I don't want to know how many viruses or what kind are on their phones. Ignorance is bliss. Now if my friend somehow had to go through them, I'd bet she'd have several things to say.
Yet for all their juvenile wisecracking and tweeting jokes about a grave national security lapse being "not seen in the Atlantic," every single one of them heard about this from........ The Atlantic.
I want to know what else the top Trump leadership is using a non-approved commercial app to share classified intel, to make official government decisions while also deleting the information making sure the American people never see the dialogue? What are they hiding from the American people?
The Atlantic article mentioned an unnamed person who is an active intelligence officer. Goldberg didn’t name the person for national security reasons. Bcuz the journalist is more of a patriot than everyone else on that thread.
I'm just a nobody, never described military maneuvers via Signal. But if that was how you wanted to do it. Shouldn't the Commander In Chief be in that group chat?! Like shouldn't he know what's happening and be in the conversation? Or is he just...not in that conversation anymore
Just the fact that he and the others refuse to own it shows a total lack of leadership and accountability. Taking responsibility is the absolute bedrock of quality of leadership.
The consequences for the reckless handling of Top Secret War Plans can be severe, and they vary depending on the specific circumstances and the applicable laws. Here's a breakdown of potential repercussions:
* Legal Ramifications:
* The Espionage Act: This federal law prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information that could harm national security. Violations can lead to lengthy prison sentences and substantial fines.
* Fed Records Act: This law mandates the proper preservation of govt records, including classified info. Mishandling such records can result in legal penalties.
* Potential criminal charges: Depending on the severity of offense, individuals could face criminal charges.
* Administrative Consequences:
* Loss of security clearance: Officials who mishandle classified information are likely to have their security clearances revoked, which would significantly impact their ability to perform their duties.
* Disciplinary action: This could include reprimands, demotions, or termination of employment.
* Civil penalties: In addition to criminal penalties, individuals may also face civil lawsuits.
* National Security Implications:
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* Compromised national security: Reckless handling of war plans can expose sensitive information to adversaries, potentially jeopardizing national security.
How many 'others', who were they ? If those questions are not answered with proof, sack them all. If they are answered, sack them all plus the others..
Listen, don't ask the rest of us Slashers about it either. Leatherface has been selling MAGA sausages and Jason recently attacked some dumb teen who wore a doge meme shirt to camp. They're PISSED.
And whatever you do, don't, DON'T bring this shit up to Myers. Again... you don't wanna know.
Every single one of them needs arrested for violating nation security. I mean, using SIGNAL? Pretty sure that's where most people find drug dealers, not secretaries of national defense or VP's 😩
I honestly thought the USA was becoming a fascist state, but I now realise you are far too stupid for that and are actually a kakistocracy!
Someone once told me, one thing is more dangerous than a sniper with a gun, and that's an idiot with a gun.
You don't need to be smart to become a fascist state. It's a cult with a senile ugly Orange Turd as their leader. We're going to be known for living in the most ridiculous period in US history!
I hope the Orange Turd will meet his maker (the devil) all by his own stupid acts, like slipping in his bathroom and hitting his head on his golden toilet. Or get some deadly diseases from RFK jr or Lil-X Human Shield and die a slow painful death.
I'm an optimist. His day will come 🙏
Thanks. I actually beat a professional comedian to the punch by about 20 minutes before he posted similar. Glad my aged brain can still get snippy in real time.
FIRE THEM ALL.. WHAT THEY DID WAS ILLEGAL.. THEY KNEW IT.. THEY ARE LIABEL FOR ALL THE DANGER THEY INVOKED ON OUR MILITARY! AMATURE.. UNPROFESSIONAL INEPT IDIOTS!!.. NOT TO MENTION JUST PLAIN CRIMINAL
How many fucking years have these scumbag Trump supporters used the phrase " No new wars under Trump". His first term, Trump was neck deep in conflicts. Syria? Trump has ordered the bombing of Yemen since the 15th of March. Hes doing this for Israel. Trump is committing genocide.
God forbid. We are quite mad to turn on a good ally. I can only imagine this crazy idea pleases Putin. I just feel Trump has declared war on Americans and allies. A sadistic president. Thank you for---among many things---support in NORAD.
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then i guess she figured that settled that and no further action was needed. 😂
Not their staff, but the actual cabinet members.
They are all a threat to our national security
Asking for... A whole country that's kinda worried
It was a period of mediocrity and incompetence just like Pete’s Defense Department!!
I mean do a roll call because you start.
Now we are in a downward spiral.
Skank mentalists
True trumpamerikkkans
Not our best, NOT our finest
Turks
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Russians
Saudis
This is such low quality, but still better quality than those guys OPSEC.
Seems very strange indeed. Probably fucking chuck the schmuck.
Declaring war WITHOUT the president?
Nah!
Whatever else they were talking about was worth it to them to take the felonies rather than leave a paper trail
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/?gift=rKLmluEs9bQ0yQj9O3MNrBJ4RG0bptyb2eDbQAXr4Ts&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
Indict them for their reckless, negligent care of official secrets.
I read it over leftover lunch
Why aren't they using a TikTok livestream for this stuff?
Every reporter should ask each admin secretary “How many Signal text chains are you on to conduct government business while skirting numerous federal laws?”
“Are you convinced that Signal is more secure than US Government secure communications systems?”
He was 10 toes deep in Gabbard, Petal, and Radcliffe's ass. The look on their faces while he was going in on them ... reminded me of The Beave from Leave It To Beaver when he was in deep trouble ... Dipschits!
https://www.warner.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?id=0B7DCE01-6993-44BD-AD21-226432CE8D6E
Trump needs to be impeached, and removed from office.
But, that'll never happen.
This group did worse.
Trump "got off" - having stolen dozens of boxes of classified docs and revealed secret information to unauthorized persons.
Yes, including a reporter.
I bet Putin is ❤️ this.
They'd rather be unsecure than be honest with archival laws.
Problem is, they’re making everyone not a brainwashed MAGAt cry. Then they’ll get mad at them!
Serious question.
Which makes it that much more important for Intelligence Officials to make sure each person they add to a Top Secret should actually be included.
Hegseth probably has a long list of Booty Calls on his phone, so who knows how many whores have top secret info at this point
There I go, setting the bar high..
But in the case of the clown car running intel for this administration ... I wouldn't be surprised if Hegseth shared top secret info with cheap hookers
One would think those interviews would also need clearance and go thru an admin office.
Either way, they all have to go. The fast and furious was to take our eyes off the incompetence.
"I accepted the connection request, hoping that this was the actual national security adviser, and that he wanted to chat about Ukraine, or Iran, or some other important matter."
So, contacts: likely yes; but not group chats like this was.
important difference
But in terms of top secret info, I'm assuming with Trump, Tulsi, and likely other Russian Agents Trump has installed, Putin knows 100% of America's top secrets already
Incompetence “lock them up”
Did Elon Musk actually take the satirical Babylon Bee seriously?
... Oh. Oh Elon, your IQ registers the same as room temp doesn't it, bud?
In degrees Kelvin.
"Trump Officials Carelessly and Negligently Texted War Plans to Reporter"
Fixed it for you
If fascists are this stupid, is it good, or bad? I can't decide.
So yeah, not good.
* The Espionage Act: This federal law prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information that could harm national security. Violations can lead to lengthy prison sentences and substantial fines.
* Potential criminal charges: Depending on the severity of offense, individuals could face criminal charges.
* Loss of security clearance: Officials who mishandle classified information are likely to have their security clearances revoked, which would significantly impact their ability to perform their duties.
* Civil penalties: In addition to criminal penalties, individuals may also face civil lawsuits.
* National Security Implications:
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202-224-3121: US House switchboard operator
“I am not publishing that name, because that person is an active intelligence officer.”
Man, are Pennywise, the Joker, and the entire community of Juggalos fucking PISSED about Donnie's cultural appropriative shit.
And whatever you do, don't, DON'T bring this shit up to Myers. Again... you don't wanna know.
He's not happy... Look you don't wanna know.
It's real bad.
Joker's none too happy with the IRS though especially. For once.
Bombing Canada on Friday, and the UK next Tuesday.
Someone once told me, one thing is more dangerous than a sniper with a gun, and that's an idiot with a gun.
I'm an optimist. His day will come 🙏
Years…a lotta people hate us because of it.
Trump admins are a bunch of clowns. Talk about amateur hour here. They are all putting us in danger … they need to be arrested; they broke the law.
No one has been executed for treason against the United States since the 1800s.
let’s Make America Great Again