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The shows guests always top drawer. Clearly they need suffer through his long winded takes on issues.
Instead all we get from elected Dems is “send $5 to help fight,” but no actual fighting. Just “we want to work with him.”
"Cowardice is horribly infectious, but in that abysmal week she showed that courage can be infectious, too."
https://open.substack.com/pub/rajivsethi/p/is-nothing-sacred
6 households done!!
I watched Morning Joe every morning until they decided to visit MAL & kiss the Orange Man’s ring.
Joe has no balls left!
Mika is just terrified.
She is as fake as melania.
She was angry that she knew he was right & she has a mouthful of trump ass, in my opinion.
"Everything Trump touches dies."
Enjoy the slow death, Morning Joe.
Disgusting.
Why would Joe & Mika bother to interview - or talk to - a pathological liar?
And I see early retirement. Those two are done. They basically committed career suicide. The right sees them as suck-ups and the left sees them as traitors.
They're so "done", we almost need a new word for it.
Shame and fear.
Don't stop to look or grieve, just keep pushing forward.
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She warned of 45's fascist tendencies and Mike just fawned all over her.
"Know your value" my ass, Mika.
btw, where else do you get decent reportage & commentary?
Great guests, dialogue, insight.
Wake up as you categorize others. I realize @MorningJoe is live “way too early”! To really understand their format & analysis, record the program. Watch it more.
it's about integrity.
It is not a disagreement when you bend the knee and ask forgiveness from the man you spent 8 years warning Americans about, just because you're concerned for yourself.
should be attributed with this saying
I doubt they do now.
Shame on Joe & Mika.
I am also losing respect for the guests on their show associating themselves with these two sellout.
Shame.
Joe and Mika's capitulation is so like McCarthy's when he went to Mar-a-Loco after J6, Graham's after that golf game, and Justice Kennedy's after Trump spoke to him briefly.
Better analysis, discussion w/out rude interruptions, no condescending lectures
So now I just see him on Sundays
He was no fan of Joe Scarborough
It is a disease. In many jobs it is not disqualifying to a point. However, as #SecDef there are no off-days.
He said,” Joanne the very best way to control people is through their fears “.
He made his first million selling lab rats.
They have the money we have the force. Let them fear that.
The only antidote is courage. And that’s infectious, too.”
People have mortgages, car payments, lifestyles that depend on them keeping their jobs.
Every single one will eventually shut up and sing along. In a Country where money is tops expect no less than its reverence.
I watched her after the Biden debate. She used to be my favorite. She was the one that made the most sense to me.
Until after the debate.
Now I can't even look at her I'm so disappointed.
I'd quit my damn job before becoming two-faced.
We live in times where media became high living entertainment personalities.
When I was younger Reporters were hungry .. and now I understand why that was good.
But she got on the "Biden's too old" bandwagon after the disastrous debate. Just like everyone else. They ALL did.
I watched them in shock. Mostly Nicole. Her Trump-bashing came to a halt and she was all over the Biden shit. She was the first that I stopped watching.
All of their integrity collectively went out the window for me. It was at that moment that I realized the difference between real journos and "window dressing".
When the money means more, then you're nothing but a mouthpiece for someone else.
Oh genie, as I rub the lamp, will you grant us a very wealthy individual who will buy up MSNBC that has moderate to liberal views and not with a name that rhymes with dusk ?
Is it 2028 yet?
Unfortunately for them, the optics were not at all good.
It was all "fake news" and horseshit.
the scrutiny and outrage SHOULD BE on trump and his administration
Biden had to pardon his son !
this is political retribution and FEAR... that's violent as hell
this should not be happening in AMERICA!
They're too worried about what the neighbors think.
Truth to Power is hard to do. But must be told! Sad so many are walking into a Dictatorship before the first ask or shot across the Bow! Our Forefather’s are rolling in their Graves! 250 years is the average kingdom run! 248? Will?
No fear. Record & watch: @MorningJoe presents issues we need to know about. They tell it like it is.
Food for thought.
I’m really disappointed in morning Joe. I’ve watched them for years, every morning while I get my kids off to school.
They’ve lost a lot of credibility now.
Glad you watch Chris Hayes twice cuz I skip his show in favor of local news.
Just money and notoriety. That's it.
They're not unique, though. This describes just about every media outlet and personality.
We just need to adjust our expectations.
Very worrisome.
Sometimes it helps to be laughing nervously these days at the fear and anger churning in my gut at the demise of the 248 years of the experiment in democracy of the USA .
It burned burned burned while the president ran & cried
It burned burned burned & things were very historical
& the americans ran & cried like a bunch of little babies wah wah wah in the war of 1812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW799AwI3m0
Russia and their allies are thrilled with the successful attacks.
Will democracy survive it all? Hard to say.
Not everyone has a bottomless bag of cash supplied by a political party to defend themselves from frivolous indictments.
Still he's threatened all journalists who hate him.
Why are they kissing the ring?
I cut CNN years ago.
My WaPo subscription has been canceled & my news intake is minimal for now. After the holidays, I'll explore new options.
I'm not familiar with Legal AF or Uncovered. I'll definitely check them out.
The media is jumping the start well before the January 20th start.
We have all stepped in a big pile of dog doo.
Oh, the trouble we're in when spotlighted media personalities have to couch what they say, otherwise be targets of the right-wing gestapo.
This shit doesn't easily wash away.
"In the US, there is basically one party - the business party." Noam Chomsky
#REVOLUTION
Then the Xodus to Bluesky followed
Everyone is tired of being played by corporate media.
They’re so complicit in the rise of fascism in North America 😔
They sold out the USA for a few extra years of existence.
Perfectly fine. As a former Bolderite glad to follow you.
#meidastouchnetwork
I will do that.
But why are they giving in so quickly? Where has Mika's courage gone? I love how she used to fiercely call out the b.s. avoided both-sidesism.
Very sad.
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Very sad and alarming.
I changed the channel immediately
I'm not ready to throw the rest of the MSNBC hosts to the curb, but I can not respect Joe and Mika at this time. This underscored that feeling.
Not an inch. They can fire him first.
Beautifully written piece by @davidfrum.bsky.social .
We'll see how long they all last when the pressure is really on.
Murrow would be sickened. This is the real cause of the downfall of our Democracy.
I do have a gripe with the bombastic, click baity video thumbnails and titles on YouTube. My 2c
After January 20th, America begins a time when men and women with courage and conviction will rise to become heroes.
Well said.
I admire David Frum even though he is a staunch conservative. To imagine Morning Joe trying to apologize for pointing out that Hegseth has a drinking problem is just difficult for me to fathom.
Maybe all the hate from 2016-2024 has traumatized Joe and Mika?
I find them both basic and underwhelming.
“We won’t go back”
If I’m honest, I’m heading more toward “Radio Free America” as the natural response.
TYT
Progressive Radio on Sirius
“It is a very ominous thing if our leading forums for discussion of public affairs are already feeling the chill of intimidation and responding with efforts to appease.
“I do not write to scold anyone; I write because fear is infectious. Let it spread, and it will paralyze us all. 1/2