Don't the pilots have a say? Well, they could do something like I don't know, strike? Have a 24 hour work stoppage? How confident are they that Musk has it all under control? I was hoping to go to NZ to visit a nephew later in 2025, but who knows now? He could blow up the economy too.
That would explain my pilot brother supporting Trump. Perhaps Fox News being ubiquitous at airports played into that. But if flying gets riskier, what do you do? ATC should have an opinion as well.
Our wealthy today actually dress like cast members in dystopian science fiction films. That getup reminds me of In Time. They both have 4 million years on their arm life clocks.
And thats the whole point of Project 2025. Have read most of it myself, but their main mission?!. Is to undo EVERYTHING that FDR implemented with the New Deal, after the crash & subsequent depression followed. EVERYTHING & yes, especially SS & SSI! 🤕
Naahhh, there are boats, there are Airlines flying from Canada or Mexico. Just avoid starting or arriving in the US. Besides, once you are here (in Europe) you might not want to go back. It's quite nice and 12 eggs are below $3
How many crashes and delays will the MAGA except? All of them! They blame it on Bidden? No $ to upgrade systems from the FAA Trust fund! Congress wants more crashes! They cannot govern! Windows 10 last upgrade 2015
Elon (elonNAZI) Musk himself said, "Success is uncertain but entertainment is guaranteed". How can anyone lack confidence in a person or company that enjoys harming & killing people?
Yeah of course, that's why the guy who refused to clear Spacex-X Starship to fly again until they modified things due to safety reasons, is no longer employed there.
It stinks more than a rotting corpse on a hot day.
The world is going mad. 👎
So even after Trump is gone, Muskrat will still have complete control of everything govt on every level? Has he just completed a private takeover? How does this ever get reversed? Does Bill Gates have 'people'?🧟
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong with that?
The utter stupidity of these moves keep making everything worse, not better.
They haven't got a clue what they're doing.
SpaceX is run by a bunch of competent people who let Elon Musk into meetings and sometimes he says things and they act like they think he's smart. The problem with Musk's attempt to destroy our government is that he didn't bring in SpaceX people, he brought in the janitor from Twitter.
Too many things to list here that are wrong with this scenario.
- SpaceX...space
- FAA...aerospace
- SpaceX...one vehicle at a time
- FAA..thousands of vehicles at a time
- SpaceX...blow it up, see what went wrong methodology
- FAA...prefers not blowing up vehicles
Etc, etc, etc...
It is like a never ending final destination movie that people collectively said “yeah, this is a great idea!” Meaning ppl who voted for IT. So what if death and destruction is brought on for who knows how long…we want the person equivalent of the final destination movies 😬😡
If you want to understand how elections are rigged, look up Greg Palest. He has been investigating this for decades. It's done on a state by state basis. That's why red states are so reliable for Republicans.
When will pilots decide it’s not safe enough? Will it be domestic or foreign pilots that will speak out that US airspace is no longer safe?
So when it happens and you are effected, you don’t get be act all surprised and upset.
It’s another isolation tactic to keep us under control.
So SpaceX is getting a no bid contract for exactly how much to overhaul our FAA systems? How do we know that this is the most efficient and cost-effective contract proposal?
in all businesses are many yes men, wanna be vps, others who all have tried to make their businesses better. hundreds of ppl over the decades. to think a few kids are seeing anything better, is absurd. the people they need are the ppl they need. not about safety in the slightest.
If they can just deport him back to South Africa, particularly in a badly inspected Boeing plane that he flies himself. Make it something that’s being held together by generic clearance section super glue that gives out right about the time he flies over the Mariana Trench. For starters, of course.
The odds of a commercial airplane crashing are approximately 0.000001% meanwhile the BBC: "[SpaceX] Falcon 9.... But out of 186 launches, there were only eight failures." Tesla tops list of brands with highest fatal accident rate in new study = Death Traps -R-US https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/southern-...
"Winston Churchill once famously observed that Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else."
THE RIGHT THING IS GET OUT ON THE STREET SCREAMING INTO THEIR COWARD FACES.
The ultra rich here get more respect than they deserve. I've come to hate them. With few exceptions, mostly they have profited from inheritance and luck. I wouldn't follow any of them even if they were headed to heaven.
🚀💩's not smart. He's a rich opportunist. You think you're tired of him – I live in Silicon Valley – we've been fucking tired of him for what seems like forever.
SpaceX has literally no expertise in the field of multiple simultaneous aircraft control/management. International flights coming into the US should be alarmed by this development.
Ever listen to control tower communications with aircraft? They are speaking in terminology & codes w knowledge that takes YEARS to master. I listened to a professional pilot with decades of flight hours translate, which was good, bc I didn't understand a word of it.
Reason I left the party in 2004 was the lies of WMDs for profiteering especially then of VP Cheney and no bid Halliburton contracts while targeting social programs. The GOP is can’t change its stripes just darkened them to MAGA. Elon wants spaceX to run the FAA ie no bid contract. For individual $$$
Seems like by cutting FAA employees and installing his untested "safety updates" is making human lives part of his "experiments" in aviation. Commercial plane flights are NOT for Elon's entertainment.
He’s destroying the systems in place so he can then privatize them. This is part of his plan and the people are his test subjects. If he continues to get away with it, he will soon own all federal agencies.
That's what happens to his rockets. Remember, he said Americans need to suffer before the election. So if a few planes fall from the sky now, why should he care.
Exploding space rockets. Self-incinerating Teslas. Self driving cars that run people down. Satellites falling out of the sky. And look what happened to him when he installed his Neuro-link!
🤦♂️ Good Gawd... send in the incel teenage cowboy programmers - who most likely have NO experience with the massive data engineering needed to keep communications for our nation's entire air travel system running 24/7, without error, and for Lord only knows how many concurrent users.🤷♀️🤦♂️
Stop him! Bold moves by employees to join forces. Unions use your strengths to organize bold employee actions to deny access. Stay in jobs, but no access. White House in court now. They have broken the front line, so get frontline to fight together.
We already have planes falling out of the sky. How many more need to crash before before people realize that Trump and Musk, the money grubbing parasites, don’t give a crap how many they kill in their greedy quest for even more riches at the expense of everyone else in the country.
Exactly! A single nationwide ATC system built via Starlink is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER waiting to happen. But it guarantees him two things 1) ridiculously large profits in perpetuity and 2) the ability to shutdown & "oopsie" punish large swaths of the country if he's displeased with their politics.
Yes, I would be, too. My dad was a pilot, from USAF to USAir/American executive planes. I'd not want to fly out of or into American airports. I'm glad my dad is no longer here and can't see what's happened to his party or his beloved flying compatriots.
My dad was staunch Republican. When I left the party, he was so upset. But I saw what was coming even in 1990s. As late as 2008, he was still trying to change my mind. He died in 2015. I've wondered if he'd have left over tmp. He hated men like that.
Musk wants control of all comms, surveillance, satelllite & banking systems.
Running a unified ATC through Starlink guarantees him $$$ in perpetuity & gives him lots of "oopsie" opportunities to shut down & punish those who aren't on board with having a TechoKing ruling the world.
Our issues are far bigger than this. Lets keep focused on the deconstruction of government & its implications . There are far too many distractions. We need one single message. What is it?
Thoz fceos who supported this need to feel what they've wrought. Not ideal, but it's either a plane crash a week or DO SOMETHING about it to make f Leon know how f stupid he REALLY IS😈🤬
Elon Musk IS THE 'Music Man' except he NEVER becomes the good guy, just a hockey masked horror show chain sawing criminal shredding US democracy, all for HIS personal financial benefit. Guarantee anything the data stealing DOGEfia uncovers fiscally will be de minimis.
I have an upcoming plane trip that will be my last for a long while I think. My wife's job requires light travel but I have asked she avoid red states when possible as I am concerned about women's health in those states. I think the accidents have just started and will get much worse.
I called both my U.S. Senators (Reps) today & spoke to a staff member of each to express my dismay/alarm at Musk’s takeover of federal agencies.
Demanded unelected/congressionally unapproved appointees > Musk/DOGE be removed from the premises/access to agency systems.
They're busy standing on procedure and protocol. If Congress and the judiciary were a fire department, your house would burn down while they discussed the process for hooking a hose to a hydrant.
Republicans have wanted both the FAA and TSA to be fully privatized. So they are not only silent, they are encouraging the end of these departments. Anything and everything Musk does to break them makes privatizing them easier.
Liked him, thought he'd be a change from politicians, always voted republican... you know, all the usual excuses that people use for not having thought something through properly to start with. 😏
More experiments in disasters by people who don’t give a f »ck because they’re not in the government. Why do Republican voters think a for profit business is so trustworthy but dedicated experts in the government are not?
How long till other countries start to discourage or outright ban USA-based planes from entering their airspace because of this?
If I *know* someone's gear isn't being held to anything even close to my safety standards, I wouldn't want it landing in my airport or even flying over my city.
First love to hear from someone in the industry. But I have read articles over the years that our air traffic control system is old and needs updated. So Evan though space X might not be the best choice todo this.
It's obvious to me that this foreigner is taking over our country while we stand around bitching it, but apparently unable to stop him. The impotence of our laws are quickly being exposed.
My guess is that the pilots & crew will all be replaced by AI. That's what they are really doing with it. They are using our safety & us as guinea pigs for their little robotic expirement. We are all gonna die! 😆
I would trust NASA over fucking SpaceX. All a part of Musks plan…. Fire a bunch of people in aviation to create a problem then try to fix it and make more money. He is a disgrace and deserves prison.
Let me get this straight...we were already short staffed with air traffic controllers and this twat is taking over? Hell no. I'm not flying for a while. Crud.
Unfortunately, a significant portion of republicans have always been about maximizing profit over everything, even the country itself. They're robber barons, not patriots. Trump is a symptom of a much bigger problem within the con party; he is not the first. Other cons just tried to do it quietly.
Yeah, this is levels of magnitude worse than any other time because all Republicans are lying traitors! There is not a single voice in the Republican Party that is capable of honesty and they are all traitors! Trump is just part of the problem! Republicans are horrible people!
He's hurting people from both sides and convincing one side he's helping them. Sadly, he's not even trying to hide that he's hurting both sides, and doesn't even have to convince the one side he's helping them. They just believe it because they're bigots and so is Musk, so that's all they need.
I don't trust Elon with a bicycle.
That said, our air traffic control system has been unattended for decades.
Congress simply will not address fixing it and as long as we republicans are anywhere near congress, the people are at risk.
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The Grift goes on!
#ImpeachTrump
#25thAmendment
#DeportMusk
#BoycottTesla
IT WAS FINE BEFORE THE PUMPKIN GOT ELECTED.
May the odds be ever in your favor.
Did this job go out to bid and Elon magically won it?
Or did the guy who declared there is a problem and fire employees give himself the job?
Yeah, this is legit....
I have no words
Conflict of interest much?
😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
More billing to the Treasury.
Guess we should ride 🚂 or drive for the next 4yrs.
It stinks more than a rotting corpse on a hot day.
The world is going mad. 👎
No Thanks
I'll take the bus
The utter stupidity of these moves keep making everything worse, not better.
They haven't got a clue what they're doing.
- SpaceX...space
- FAA...aerospace
- SpaceX...one vehicle at a time
- FAA..thousands of vehicles at a time
- SpaceX...blow it up, see what went wrong methodology
- FAA...prefers not blowing up vehicles
Etc, etc, etc...
All FAA displays will contain Tesla touch screens.
Space X will manufacture all radar, navigation, and other FAA technology.
The same group of kids with no security clearance, will access FAA databases, and do god knows what to software and computer code.
And nobody is stopping it
This should be so gross to us all.
A foreigner is meddling with our politics, our personal information in a completely made-up department.
NONE OF THIS IS LEGAL
So when it happens and you are effected, you don’t get be act all surprised and upset.
It’s another isolation tactic to keep us under control.
FYI there is no arse emoji
The odds of a commercial airplane crashing are approximately 0.000001% meanwhile the BBC: "[SpaceX] Falcon 9.... But out of 186 launches, there were only eight failures." Tesla tops list of brands with highest fatal accident rate in new study = Death Traps -R-US
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/southern-...
THE RIGHT THING IS GET OUT ON THE STREET SCREAMING INTO THEIR COWARD FACES.
Neither does anyone at SpaceX.
Was there a bid process??
More $$$$ for Prince Muskrat...
Are planes falling out of the sky "exciting" for Elon?
November of 2023 Musk said of yet another one of his rockets exploding (the 6th one):
“NO KING’s DAY” protests went well across the nation yesterday; 5,000+ in Olympia, WA.
Academic unions & the science community have a national protest planned for TOMORROW in D.C. & cities & campuses nationwide.
Micro actions are building into a tsunami.
#NQNQ247
Running a unified ATC through Starlink guarantees him $$$ in perpetuity & gives him lots of "oopsie" opportunities to shut down & punish those who aren't on board with having a TechoKing ruling the world.
Thoz fceos who supported this need to feel what they've wrought. Not ideal, but it's either a plane crash a week or DO SOMETHING about it to make f Leon know how f stupid he REALLY IS😈🤬
Demanded unelected/congressionally unapproved appointees > Musk/DOGE be removed from the premises/access to agency systems.
#KeepAtItAmerica
Crashes and Terrorists?
imo, I think the exploding rocket was his version of an atom bomb hitting the entire planet.
A billboard so to speak.
Ever….?
👀🙄🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
This is a screenshot a minute ago from Planefinder app.
If I *know* someone's gear isn't being held to anything even close to my safety standards, I wouldn't want it landing in my airport or even flying over my city.
Joe Biden
Was
President 🇺🇸
We need to stop him at all costs. The air or ground is not safe anymore.
If you were thinking of flying to the US, don't.
Just not Aeroflot or its US subsidiaries.
That said, our air traffic control system has been unattended for decades.
Congress simply will not address fixing it and as long as we republicans are anywhere near congress, the people are at risk.