You're dealing with a trump Junior do not let him into office you see what the f*** it's doing to our country down here don't let it happen to yours up there. Use the example
Replace that with the recent us federal elections and realize farage is exploiting the failures & cruelties of the labour and tories to break simplistic populism to an electorate too focused on scraping by hour by hour than long term goals.
I ran the Green Party manifesto through AI and asked it to reword it in a way to appeal to the average Reform voter would want to read on, say, Facebook.
The result was astonishing.
It may grate, but I fear it is what moderate parties will have to start doing.
The BBC insist on perennially giving him a platform beyond the dreams of avarice.
38 appearances on Question Time and counting, and that's just for starters.
They've been the making of him.
He tells the lies they like. Migrants have become the wedge-issue, because it's an issue that can't actually be solved. The real purpose of "Reform UK" is to black action on climate change - it's a vehicle for the fossil fuel industry.
No country is immune to Russian and oligarch fueled narcissistic populism. We are witnessing an unholy alliance of oligarchs around the world using their money to control media and buy elections based on division and fear. Good luck UK. We will fight on in the former colonies.
People are getting very excited about polling at the moment. We are 4.5 years away from a general election. In the interim, Labour is likely to lose local councillors. But long way to go before we talk about the 2029 make-up of the government of the UK.
Once again it is the media causing the problem. Polls and talking about polls is easy sensationalism for views/clicks. There is so much else they should be paying attention to, but that requires time, effort and money.
I’m an American and I’m saying labor need to get it’s shit together. They need to stop following the Democratic Party strategy, because as you can see it has failed.
Insecurity amongst a great section of our society with poorly paid jobs and job instability leads people to fear immigration and immigrants that might take the work from them. Farage and co are playing on this fear and the left must sort out a valid response to those peoples concerns.
Maybe the government should be bringing about the change people want rather than more of the same austerity that has destroyed public services and created record levels of homelessness and poverty?
The problem is the immigration rate issue has been ignored for too long and it's become a big problem in many countries. Farage is what happens when you pretend there is no problem to solve.
You know that and I know that but the problem is that that statement is true of all the political parties.. labour doesn't give a s#*t about the working person anymore...too busy keeping business happy to do the right thing by the people who by thier labor create the wealth...
And this is exactly the reason their populist rhetoric gets through.
Since education has been stifled, it's the duty of sensible people to educate about how🇩🇪slid into fascism and war; publicly, privately and at every opportunity.
Of course, this water's muddied by🇮🇱current leader acting like a🤬Nazi.
84 years of constant war to corrupt and demoralize "the West" as the Russians call it. They told us they would, they told us how, they started in 1960 and they never stopped. We thought a wall going down in 1989 and the Soviet collapse in 1991 ended that. It did not. Ask them, they'll tell you.
Starmer is what is wrong, he's writing policy that is causing even more unnecessary impoverishment, people often turn to the far right when economic conditions get tough, and Starmer would rather drive them to the far right than actually do anything meaningful to change anything.
None of them give a fk, Marcus. We have a parliament of self-serving cowards. It's been cultivated for decades. And when the public votes one of them out, they get cushy jobs and/or a seat in the Lords. It's entirely rigged. Farage is just more blatant.
This is happening because the centrists spent the last decade sliding to the right and slagging off the left. They rejected the anti austerity policies of Corbyn and delivered the two faced, lying, back stabbing genocide supporting Starmer.
How many times is the "left" going to get it wrong?
From Britain to US, the left is more interested in catering to the right than their mass base:
Sideline progressives,
Focus on a center right tool, and
Makes the *surprised Pikachu* face when the base isn't excited and far right takes power.
It's the mainstream media disproportionately giving him and his """party""" coverage despite there being MORE greens and pro-palestine independents in the commons who don't get nearly the same amount of attention from them.
Oh they so DESPERATELY wanna manufacture consent for this cretin...
They only managed 2% more than the library dems if this were about votes Ed Davey would be all over our media too. This is about him pushing a right wing economic policy that helps corporate backers.
I feel like we're the daughter who went back to our terrible ex, despite him already breaking his promises, because the last guy was boring and you're the parent who keeps dating losers who wreck everything too, but then we're both like "wow, what is wrong with them?"...
Absolutely, it becomes a vicious circle. Any politician trying to explain and be honest , is seen as a liar, anyone promising free ham tomorrow is a hero.
People that voted for brexit should be thrown into the sun. Worthless idiots burning down their whole house because they didn't like the color of the drapes
Same thing that trump and Musk did... promise everthing Garantie nothing ( when elected, renegade on your promises because what can the dumb muppets do about it now)
Money, Power and a defunded education system. Politician - make peoples lives worse to enrich myself and gain power, use media to tell people the other side did it, idiots believe it and vote against their own self interest. Rinse and repeat.
Russia and billionaires are currently destroying democracy throughout the world. So many people have Stockholm Syndrome here. Sending you good vibes and solidarity from the US.
After the incomprehensible reelection of the worst president the United States has ever endured, I am reduced to thinking that people are just hopelessly fucking stupid and self sabotaging
The fact you are shocked by this shows how naive people still are
The average voter will literally sell their nation to a swastika waving Nazi who eats babies every rally if he says the right words to demonize and deflect
Between Bunter & Kermitler, more harm has been done to this country than by any other individual (except maybe Putin). Only the truly delusional could imagine anything decent coming from these appalling people, yet they want to be lead by these architects of destruction & fraud.
Because people want to be led by authoritarian swindlers. It reminds me of a poignant scene in Oliver Stone's "Nixon". Nixon, played by Anthony Hopkins looked at the portrait of the late JFK and said "people look at you and see what they want to be; people look at me and see who they really are."
Britain and the US are so similar in government dysfunction. We are never far behind our Mother land. Hopefully both countries find away to pull their heads out of their asses.
Lmao 'take 67 seats from Labour' when, in the next electing in 4-5 years? Polls that far out are basically meaningless other than providing a way for piece of human refuse Farage to keep his name in the papers. Take and listen to the issues raised but keep moving forward.
MSM assisted the right wing to vote for governments that make their lives more miserable. In order to shield the superrich from blame they successfully invent the othering of migrants. The hard of thinking obliged. However they conveniently ignore the tragedies imposed by rich weapons manufacturers
Historically Labour has both succeeded and failed at this, depending on the nature of the politicians involved.
Sometimes balance is needed by deploying people with a different perspective. Both the left and right are prone to excess, fashion and craziness.
Farage is being catered to by the conservative anti-abortion right also, the UK thinks that they're not susceptible to the batshitter of the United states, they are. If they don't push back against it women there will lose their rights too.
The world has had enough evidence to see Trump for what he really is but yet here we are again. I'm just saying, the conservative right is so much better funded than people realize. Be aware.
Reform could do it if Labour become complacent and allow Farage, Tufton St, Johnson & truss to get away with the chaos they caused, unions should be campaigning for voter turnout now, not 3 years time, they should also be constantly highlighting inequality, poverty and the grifting caused by Tories
They are called Far Left because the media likes labels
So called "conservatives" are not what they used to be but are still called that even though most are now Magrats.
The world really has gone crazy—it seems more and more people let greed, self-involvement, and mean spiritedness overtake them. I suspect a lot of them know how ugly this is, but resentment and hate is so easy.
From the outside looking in. There is a deep seated culture of following "our betters" in your country.
Truth be told that phrase tends to identify arseholes
He gets backing from the farmers union who don’t realise they can’t make profit out of produce, they HAVE to live on subsidies.
It’s a broken system.
But this might split the conservative votes. Forcing deals made between the two.
But I doubt reform would want to work with Badenoch.
100% correct. Boomerang Farage, the rotting smell in politics, is nonetheless, once again brought to your attention by the popular demand of virtually nobody. It took this lying, racist grifter 8 attempts to become an MP. Right wing & their MSM 💰 help him. They want him, not sure British people do
Seat projections in article: Lab 228 seats, Conservatives 222, Reform 72, LibDems 58, SNP 37.
Lab/Lib/SNP = 323 (very close to a majority, add a couple of indies/Greens). I wonder what redline conditions the Libs and SNP might have for Keir?
PR and IndyRef2, for sure.
Labour are on course to f*ck up big, they can’t have growth without a reset deal with the EU. Instead they’ll opt to give legitimacy to Fagash & his grifters - who incidentally don’t give a f*ck about the U.K. Ppl in the U.K. are ad gullible as Americans. Because most ppl are thick as sh*t. #morons
We live in an age of mediocre mainstream politicians in UK, so an articulate populist backed by a media hooked on celebs "telling it as it is"is bound to shine.
Blaming the poorest and most vulnerable for the rise of Reform is not going to help fight the far right, in fact it will do the opposite. The English parties of govt offer only failed neo-liberal solutions.
What's wrong with people is that they don't have enough money to eat or keep warm.
He is Britain's Trump, a laughing stock in every other country yet seemingly beloved by a small number of his countrymen (typically the people who are very vocal but not the most intelligent or best informed).
Apparently the world didn’t learn the lesson of fascism in the last century. The US has fallen to it - Canada, UK, Germany, and France are teetering on it.
You should ask what is wrong with the toxic right wing press and media, and why do they platform Farage and Reform. The BBC might as well pay him a salary.
They are not impartial in this, their billionaire owners are very much complicit in spreading misinformation and lies.
Grownups with an IQ of a fencepost produce kids with an IQ of a fencepost. Never read a book, absorbing TV or Tiktok 8 hours a day. Same as here in the Netherlands. Or am I too cynical? I sincerely can't understand it.
Watch America, what happens there will happen here. They are all part of the same movement. Like Musk, Farage will continue to let hundreds of thousands in the front door rather than improving education in the UK.
Hopefully, people will see him for what he is. A globalist oligarchy stooge.
Why victim blaming?
Our people are politically/economically illiterate for any functioning democracy there's a need for informed/educated electorate.
Our classist system considers informed electorate to be a plague of "wokeism".
Around Europe far right is pushed in every country
Is it a conspiracy?
Labour is not labour is why.
the starvers rather appeal to tory racists than its traditional base.
these doppelgängers are no working class's friend. they protect brexit, they target all migrants, they protect the city, they say some children and old ppl can go without. they deny genocide...etc
Because I'm not well enough informed on the matter. But I doubt any politicians anywhere in the west will be going to the Hague. We could start with Tony Blair and g.w. bush if that was on the table.
There's no reasoning with a Reform voter. They love the populist, anti immigration message. They just don't realise they'll just get utter incompetence instead. Let's hope Trump is a disaster in the US to wake a few up. 5 years is a long time for Reform to maintain their momentum.
It is communication. People do not accept what has got better, probably because things are so bad after 14 years of Tory rule. An example is how #NHS strikes have almost ended.
Still the same shite as with the Brexit referendum. Or with trump’s campaign. Promising easy solutions that will never appear, stroking fear and outrage, and manipulating people via social media.
Labour just like the dems had better learn to dominate social media quickly.
I agree, people should learn to avoid the mistakes the US is making. However, Britain are the OGs of these, and several other, mistakes the US are making ( almost like it's an ancestor/ descendants thing).
I can't deny that there is some truth to that as well. It's why we get a little peeved at Brits trashing the US for things they've had time to learn the hard way (sometimes repeatedly). It seems human nature is to learn the hard way, rather than by example. 🤷🏼♀️
Yes, I feel the same way. They got where they are by invading, colonizing, stealing, enslaving, and by keeping their own people impoverished for generations. They spread that greedy, entitled attitude to this continent long ago. The US sometimes feels like Britain 2.0.
True. I want to clarify that we aren't Brit-bashing here though. I think most of the citizenry of both, prefer a more just & equitable society. We need to be able to speak with complete honesty about history though, and that's where I'm at with it.
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The result was astonishing.
It may grate, but I fear it is what moderate parties will have to start doing.
38 appearances on Question Time and counting, and that's just for starters.
They've been the making of him.
Ultimately people are suffering and desperate and will grasp at bad solutions if they’re not offered good ones.
No vision for a truly better future.
Spoiler: He doesn't and he won't.
Autocratic criminal rats.
Which newspaper is saying this?
I rest my case.
Refoam (Not a typo) are a fringe group of closet racists who hide their true intentions to appear electable.
Never. Going. To. Happen.
Since education has been stifled, it's the duty of sensible people to educate about how🇩🇪slid into fascism and war; publicly, privately and at every opportunity.
Of course, this water's muddied by🇮🇱current leader acting like a🤬Nazi.
Not wealthy assholes, we’ve had those for a while. I mean their dipshit fanboys.
Selling the magic beans
A lot of people are so busy struggling to see through the bull💩 and propaganda.
The rest are just big-time racist W⚓️z and major C@ntz.
Leaded petrol.
From Britain to US, the left is more interested in catering to the right than their mass base:
Sideline progressives,
Focus on a center right tool, and
Makes the *surprised Pikachu* face when the base isn't excited and far right takes power.
Oh they so DESPERATELY wanna manufacture consent for this cretin...
The media have led people to believe that you can deal with highly complex issues with simple sound bites.
The world is going to become a very dangerous place indeed.
Politicians have to market their platform as "the cheapest and easiest solution for all your problems and you don't have to do or change anything!"
https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/nigel-farage-a-career-drenched-in
The average voter will literally sell their nation to a swastika waving Nazi who eats babies every rally if he says the right words to demonize and deflect
The Brits aren't picking up on it yet.
Farage is a despicable clown, out of the frying pan into the 🔥
Sometimes balance is needed by deploying people with a different perspective. Both the left and right are prone to excess, fashion and craziness.
This has been getting ingrained into the psyche for years now. Those who feel even a smidgen let down have been suckered in.
Issue is, they've been let down by right wing populism... and they can't even see it.
He's got perseverance when the grift is worth it.
JUST WATCH AND SEE.
Headlines 👇👇👇👇👇
So called "conservatives" are not what they used to be but are still called that even though most are now Magrats.
Truth be told that phrase tends to identify arseholes
It’s a broken system.
But this might split the conservative votes. Forcing deals made between the two.
But I doubt reform would want to work with Badenoch.
People will do the right thing
Lab/Lib/SNP = 323 (very close to a majority, add a couple of indies/Greens). I wonder what redline conditions the Libs and SNP might have for Keir?
PR and IndyRef2, for sure.
What's wrong with people is that they don't have enough money to eat or keep warm.
They are not impartial in this, their billionaire owners are very much complicit in spreading misinformation and lies.
#shame
Hopefully, people will see him for what he is. A globalist oligarchy stooge.
Our people are politically/economically illiterate for any functioning democracy there's a need for informed/educated electorate.
Our classist system considers informed electorate to be a plague of "wokeism".
Around Europe far right is pushed in every country
Is it a conspiracy?
the starvers rather appeal to tory racists than its traditional base.
these doppelgängers are no working class's friend. they protect brexit, they target all migrants, they protect the city, they say some children and old ppl can go without. they deny genocide...etc
That’s what you are dealing with
Labour just like the dems had better learn to dominate social media quickly.
Asking people to take seriously their civic duty to be well informed can be controversial.
Do better UK 🙏