Hey remember when George Lucas was like “hurr durr Trade Wars” and we were like that’s so silly and he was like no wait that’s how Emperor Palpatine comes to power and we were like you are obviously dumb Jorge.
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Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s anyone in this world he loves enough to be his Luke Skywalker, so no chance of him heroically sacrificing himself to toss Emperor Trumpatine down a hole.
Bwahaaaa, Emperor Trumpatine, you got a snort chuckle out of me on that one! I don’t think Elon, cuz I don’t think he has an ounce of "good in him”. I don’t think there’s an ounce of good in any of them.
Yeah, real life doesn’t have many complex characters like that. Mainly just boring background dwellers and complete bastards. Real life makes for a terribly written story.
The criticism wasn't that being so cringe was unrealistic, but that it doesn't really set him up as ever being a good person that fell. More of a guy who everyone should have seen falling a mile away.
WAR is coming to America. Their Army is very weak.afghanastan is not going to take Trumps shit.World War is coming,and Tarriff War.Rubio immigrant is going to add to it.🤣🤣🤣💞💞💞
It was more how it was done, where it's basically like Mastercard surrounding a city with it's army to demand better rates -- and most people in the government think it's reasonable. And the Senate stuff wasn't very good (but much worse why incoherent in the second movie).
I think it was more along the lines of "why does this space opera need a complicated political system that does stuff like trade wars" and not that trade wars are an unrealistic idea in general.
So did most people, and to be frank, most of said objections were “Hey this isn’t Episode IV — A New Hope!!!!!! Where did my comfort characters go, I was tying to hyperfixate!!1!1!!1” only they didn’t have those words then, so they pretended like they were serious critics doing Media Criticism (tm)
Some of the objections were along those lines, but IIRC _most_ of the objections involved:
- excessive reliance on slapstick
- excessive reliance on CGI combined with poor CGI
- characters making ridiculously poor choices
- Darth Maul's dialogue
- Trade Federation = Yellow Peril
- midichlorions
And to be honest? I look forward to the day where we can all look back on the sequels and reassess them for what was very clearly just the same reaction again but this time with a little more racism thrown in for spice.
Wait, you think that anyone objected to Force Rising on the grounds that it did _not_ sufficiently recapitulate New Hope?
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No one threw in racism for spice. Some people threw in racism, but not for spice; racism was their primary motive.
Yes, the small humans pointed this out to me last weekend. The teenager is trying to convince the younger sibs that our family movie nights need to be a reviewing of Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Fight Club because they speak to the historical moment. The tween’s vote is the Walking Dead.
I think the aforementioned tween might be romanticising the moment. Not that I'm blaming them, mind you. When I was their age, I was excited at the potential eventuality of living in 'interesting times' too. Fascinating how perspective changes as we grow older.
The tween just likes the Walking Dead right now and the 16 YO is the only housemate willing to watch it with him. I’ll sit next to him and read while he watches if he wears his headphones. If I want to hear gnashing teeth I’ll give the puppy a raw hide 😂
The 12 YO sister refuses to let him pick movies after he told her John Wick only had one sad scene at the beginning and failed to clarify that it was the dog being murdered. Fight Club is unfortunately way too relevant to the Joe Rogan bro culture trash we’re dealing with.
If you haven't watched Andor I highly recommend, it's definitely relevant to your selections, and tbh probably the best star wars to come out recently it's a beaut
We’d meant to watch it, but unless everyone is home from school sick, it’s hard to get us all in one place frequently enough to watch a series together. The Little League travel team is pausing for Spring ball and we have a month til opening day and back to weekends full of baseball again 😂
I’ll second Andor but I will say it depends on the age of your kids. It’s not that it’s gratuitous violence or sexual content or anything, this one gets the R rating just for being kind of heady and about revolution, in the “Yeah no this is necessary but it also sucks and people die a lot” way.
Thanks for the additional info. I guess we’ll have to see how it goes. I’ll probably watch a few episodes to gauge how it’ll go over with the various small humans. I’m guessing it will hit too close to “we’re living this nightmare now” for the 12 YO sister.
There are things that will go over your kids’ heads, and some things that you might expect to go over their heads that they will, instead, intuitively “Get” in a way that’s very interesting.
I listened to the audiobooks with the oldest kiddo a couple of summers ago. He’d read the series a few times, so it was a perfect falling asleep book, but I didn’t find it peaceful sleep inducing 😂
Pet Sematary is still his worst bedtime audiobook selection 😂
I remember doing the causes of the Great Depression in GCSE History, and the tariff war was a big part of it, plus the GD lead to hyper inflation in Germany which really helped Hilter and co to get control.
Lucas was a historian, not a soothsayer.
Those that don't study history repeat it.
I'm Early Millennial, and ... I mean, fair enough. I was angry at those movies for good reasons too, but at the same time I really wish we'd treated the talent better. And ... well ... the Sequel Trilogy is so bad it makes the Prequel Trilogy look like Citizen Kane in contrast.
Agreed on talent. There's a difference between "you created bad art" versus "you are an shitty and evil person". Especially when the targets include a child.
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Ahmed Best should have known better, though.
I gotta be honest: I didn't want to see trade wars in Star Wars, and I certainly don't want to see them in real life either. They're a boring, slow death of democracy. I watch Star Wars for action scenes.
I was gonna say you mean Palpatine but looking at what a senile fool Trump is at this point, yeah he's Jar Jar. Elon is definitely the Palpatine if anyone. Or maybe Bezos. Or the guy in charge of the Heritage Foundation.
I love this early 2000s liberal discourse where everything is a pop culture reference that avoids inconvenient introspection - like how the party that just spent 15 months committing genocide and before that, lied about Covid aid, and spat in the faces of fire survivors and on and on
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Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s anyone in this world he loves enough to be his Luke Skywalker, so no chance of him heroically sacrificing himself to toss Emperor Trumpatine down a hole.
Trump didn’t:… control both parties and use a war to distract them from each other while he took emergency powers
He was elected by 72m Americans. That’s real Issue.
The Clone Wars Cartoon does a better job here.
He did too much explaining and that isn’t the recipe for a compelling story.
This is the truth!
A war starting over trade seems...pretty believable.
It setup the Republic to be so privatized that it makes the US look like Norway in comparison.
But there were a lot of other complaints too.
- excessive reliance on slapstick
- excessive reliance on CGI combined with poor CGI
- characters making ridiculously poor choices
- Darth Maul's dialogue
- Trade Federation = Yellow Peril
- midichlorions
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No one threw in racism for spice. Some people threw in racism, but not for spice; racism was their primary motive.
The most annoying part about star wars is the critics and “fans” who seem to have forgotten what the fuck “Star Wars” is
I mean, it wasn't *exciting*, but it was definitely realistic.
The Zombies are the Republicans.
The squabbling between the Dem establishment and progressives is everyone else.
Cert 18, with good reason.
Pet Sematary is still his worst bedtime audiobook selection 😂
Lucas was a historian, not a soothsayer.
Those that don't study history repeat it.
I still think he's a bloody idiot.
...but he was on to something.
(I wish I remember where I heard it.)
Do you remember when the bond villain wanted to control water?
Control the news?
The dumbest moments of fiction are based on history, and turning out to be prophecy.
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Ahmed Best should have known better, though.
Damn trade wars.
Mech suits