Arch BTW? 😉 Seriously tho, never tried it. But glad it's working for you.
I'm on Fedora 41. Their previous kernel update was a nightmare, nvidia drivers were no bueno. But they released a new one a day or two ago and so far so good.
IF we're talking about desktop OS I use kubuntu. Its stable and provides a flexible work platform. There isn't time for me to tinker with many releases when home. Complaining about others for personal use isn't productive. Now if you're talking about servers my answer will always be "it depends"
I love MacOS, just not Apple(or MacOS past 11)
Hackintoshed multiple computers, the performance boost vs. Windows was amazing(Linux ran better but didn't feel like it)
I honestly can't find my way around a Windows of any sort. The ONLY reason I have a Windows parked on my desk is to use it for RVtools once in a blue moon... and yes, there is a lot of swearing every time I turn that PC on.
In short, most of the pain points of Linux boil down to intense differences in philosophy that dont usually revolve around user experience, but about technical purity.
1) I have, still very noticeable latency for guitar playing unfortunately. Otherwise, pipe wire is great.
2) agreed but I don't love it
3) I daily drive void and as good as it is, they only package latest stable, and if you want anything you're either making a template or downloading flatpak etc.
Lol no no, I appreciate the suggestion, I've just wasted a LOT of time trying to find solutions instead of making music. I'm primarily a developer, but I do music and art on the side and it's been a painful experience to say the least.
jeepers.
1) Audio? never noticed... but not a musician
2) Wayland works fine... been using since it is now the default on my distro (ubuntu) never had a problem.
3) There are choices in package management.... Different ones have different strengths and weaknesses... why is that a problem?
To answer 3 more thoroughly, different distros will have some packages, or not. They might be old, or experimental, often with no choice. It's a huge time sink for maintainers. Package managers conflict with each other. Some obey FSH, others don't (Nix, GUIX), and when they do, implementations vary.
Oh yeah, I definitely think we're on the road to fixing a lot of stuff, those are just my list of current pain points. I'm very optimistic about the future of Linux :)
I enjoy tinkering with Linux on an old iMac and an old MacBook Pro. I have tried Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, Red Hat, Elementary OS and other distributions. I like Elementary OS because it resembles MacOS, which is my main OS. I like windows the least but I will say it has improved a lot recently.
Where I do have personal preferences, I've never had strong feelings about things like an OS, because all I need is for it to function and let me run the software that I need to without fuss, and if it can do that then I'll use it, it's a bit like a car for me does it go from A to B? Then it will do
Again, going back to the car, obviously I would make sure it's the right one, but hopefully you get my point and analogy in that it just needs to do the things I need without question. I use Zorin OS as much as I can, but I still have Windows 11 for a lot of the software that I still need to use.
I've not tried those specific games, but I've never had any issues. The only thing I have heard is games with anti-cheat rootkits don't work. So mainly online pvp stuff, I suppose.
I saw someone saying just yesterday the Sims runs. My whole Steam library seems to run just fine.
So applications like Battleye wouldn't work? (which wouldn't bother me really lol).
While I do have steam, i do pirate certain games and wondered how things like that work. Obviously, I need more research myself, thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
Anything I could say would be pure speculation so I'll just leave it to your research. I haven't tried any pirated games or really anything but through Steam. Best of luck, though. It's getting there. I've run without any Windows for about 1.5 years now.
So im pretty sure FL studio is a no, but i have a tip if you need to see if a game works on linux. ProtonDB is a website that will tell you if a game works on linux, and will give you tips if its a particularly finicky title. Also on steam the “deck verified” can be assumed to mean runs on linux
My mantra. Hardware too. Does it need to be on something that’s low wattage and a small physical footprint like a medical device or a robot? Linux. Can I have a true color screen, run 28 cores, do photography? Mac. Must I cobble some Chinese code, burn a chip, or run Solidworks? Windows
I haven't complained about other systems since 2009 when I became a pre-sales/Field system engineer and had to realize it aint all about me when it comes to technical recommendations.
I like Linux, but there's lots to complain about too. Same is true for Windows. The commercial systems have all been getting more contemptuous, anti-user and greedy though, so that's a big push toward free systems.
I just love Linux - servers, desktops, laptops - Pi’s, easy to use, fun to set up & fuckn amazing!!!!! Can really integrate great systems like CEPH, kubernetes …
If I have to use Windows now, installing programs is so much more of a lengthy process. On Linux, it's either using a gui like Discover and having a one click install, or using the cli and installing it with one command. On Windows, it's a lengthy exe or msi installer, often with other bundled apps
Personally I think ever OS has a reason for existing but I do just prefer Arch based Linux distros.
I still have to use Windows for College and Work so it's still useful and it's functional but far from ideal.
Never been rich enough for any apple products.
I appreciate being able to start with a minimal OS, and add only what I need. Linux, Arch especially, allows me to do that. If I want some eye candy, it's doable, but my overall ability to get work done is not dependent on a window manager or fat GUI.
I kept an old laptop going with Linux. Last update wiped the ability to connect to the internet and I don't know how to fix as I'm only a basic end user, I have no coding ability.
As a long time FreeBSD and RHEL/Debian user, I can say I am genuinely annoyed by the shackles that are Windows or MacOS. I no longer fight with them to get what I want and need done. (that is unless I have to to get my paycheck)
Mostly I genuinely like Linux. It has been my primary OS since 1996.
I will sometimes talk shit about other OSes though. Not MacOS; my wife might overhear and disembowl me. Not NetBSD either; one of my best friends is a NetBSD dev (and it's pretty cool really).
It’s been yonks since I used Linux - the Mandrake distro in the 90s, although I’ve dabbled with using a number of different more modern Linux distros more recently. Usually I use Windows for work (compatibility with my various Client’s OSs and MacOS for leisure.
I've used, and liked using, Linux since the mid 90s. Usability wise, the peak for me was KDE 3.x.
Now I have precious little spare time, so I've left my latest laptop running the Windows 11 it came with.
WSL2 provides me the Linux user space I require, while still having driver support for the HW.
Yes. For one small example, years before App Stores were a mainstream thing on PCs, I found the existence of package management systems to be a revelation. Using apt/synaptic (or pacman/yay, or dnf/yum or portage or whatever) to just...install and update programs.
I unfortunately like writing software on Windows, for businesses which exclusively use Windows, using development tools which only exist on Windows, for which there is no equivalent on any other platform than Windows.
I never say anything is bad, I just hop from one thing to the other, ZorinOS, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Unity, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Windows.
😂 I think I'm basically using Ubuntu and Windows, average hopping period: 3 months cuz I never dual boot, my OCD doesn't let me.
I've used Linux exclusively on my personal machines for many years. "Mint" (and an SSD) made my old laptop work like new again, although I normally install Ubuntu.
Windows, especially now with its constant ads and "news" attachment to Microsoft One or whatever it's called, is a blight.
Genuinely like Linux and multiple distros. Windows and MacOS aren't bad either. Each one has its pluses and minuses. Feel I get more freedom with Linux though.
TL;DR: I know no one really cares, but to sum up my world: Windows is OK at work. Linux is OK for learning. Android is OK. BSD is OK for pfSense. Chrome OS is OK. No OS is perfect or has it all. It's really about the use cases you need on a daily basis. Use what works for you and get good at it.
I complain about all operating systems, they all have bad things, I don't make exceptions, there are things about Linux, Android and Windows that I don't like.
I like Linux for servers, MacOS for desktops. I’m done with Windows, but I’m tired of all the bashing. Really tired of Linux fans bashing other distros…
Having used Ubuntu / Lubuntu / Xubuntu for a long time, I switched to Fedora. It is so much better. Stability. Upgrades that work. For Google Workspace users there’s just no excuse not to switch.
I like Linux, and having a good OS makes complaining about other OSes easy - especially complaining about winblows. I use macos daily, but 90% of that is command line. I'd switch to Linux 100% if my company would let me.
All operating systems are bad, it's a question of what ways they are bad and which issues you're willing to put up with. Except for TempleOS, the only perfect OS
I mean I work with Linux professionally, use MacOS because of dev tools, have Debian running my NAS box and use windows for my gaming rig ... Sent from an Android phone. I just use what works best for the task at hand.
I use a stripped down xubuntu on some labs in my school district, with a web browser. I have ubuntu on my 82 yr old mother's pc, who just needs to get to the web and do a little bill paying. I need windows for my audio workstation and windows only vst plugins. I can complain about all of them. :)
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But man, that 5% sometimes... 😡
But I love the control. And if things get too bad, I try a different distro. Now on Arch + Wayland & Plasma and it's been awesome so far.
I'm on Fedora 41. Their previous kernel update was a nightmare, nvidia drivers were no bueno. But they released a new one a day or two ago and so far so good.
So Fedora + Wayland & Plasma for me. ^_^
Ive so far never said "arch btw" actually 😅
I mainly like the AUR and how stable it feels.
Regardless of distro, we are in charge of our PC, which I love!
Hackintoshed multiple computers, the performance boost vs. Windows was amazing(Linux ran better but didn't feel like it)
I did have a corporate Windows laptop, but only used it for Exchange email. Too slow for most other work…
1) Audio is a disaster on Linux, especially when you need low latency for guitar.
2) The whole xorg/Wayland debacle.
3) Package management is a pain point in terms of philosophies.
Aside from that, Linux feels really good.
2) Sticking with xorg for as long as possible
3) Yes well. Still better than anything else. Apt is great, Nix could be brilliant, and Void has a nice BSD feeling. Options
2) agreed but I don't love it
3) I daily drive void and as good as it is, they only package latest stable, and if you want anything you're either making a template or downloading flatpak etc.
I will go back and hide with my friends emacs and agda out of shame
This suggests getting rid of pipewire and just using jack, but again, I have no idea what I am talking about
https://interfacinglinux.com/2023/11/14/pro-audio-on-linux-with-debian-12/
1) Audio? never noticed... but not a musician
2) Wayland works fine... been using since it is now the default on my distro (ubuntu) never had a problem.
3) There are choices in package management.... Different ones have different strengths and weaknesses... why is that a problem?
Wayland works fine *for some people* depends on graphic configurations, and is known to be finicky
Even Linus recognizes the issues with package management. https://youtu.be/Pzl1B7nB9Kc?si=W7jeIzqqdL99dyXs
Anecdotal "it works for me" doesn't help Linux gain market share.
Linux audio and wayland is being worked on very hard atm, it's getting better, which i am happy about.
I saw someone saying just yesterday the Sims runs. My whole Steam library seems to run just fine.
So applications like Battleye wouldn't work? (which wouldn't bother me really lol).
While I do have steam, i do pirate certain games and wondered how things like that work. Obviously, I need more research myself, thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
Also GNU/Linux* :)
No loyalties, my preference is ending the day wth the work completed.
If it’s running the software I need now, and turns on, and lights up my monitor .. it’s the best one.
Like even Windows users hate Windows, but it's so much more worse when you're not used to its insanity anymore...
I still have to use Windows for College and Work so it's still useful and it's functional but far from ideal.
Never been rich enough for any apple products.
Otherwise happy enough
I will sometimes talk shit about other OSes though. Not MacOS; my wife might overhear and disembowl me. Not NetBSD either; one of my best friends is a NetBSD dev (and it's pretty cool really).
Windows, however, is free game.
Don't care about other OS except I'm glad I'm not using them anymore.
Don't care what other people use, except my kids and wife, who use Linux because I am in charge all things tech in the household.
#Linux
Now I have precious little spare time, so I've left my latest laptop running the Windows 11 it came with.
WSL2 provides me the Linux user space I require, while still having driver support for the HW.
😂 I think I'm basically using Ubuntu and Windows, average hopping period: 3 months cuz I never dual boot, my OCD doesn't let me.
Windows, especially now with its constant ads and "news" attachment to Microsoft One or whatever it's called, is a blight.
Learned windows in 1995.
Never learned any other systems. Some things about windows I never have liked