If the White House is insisting that there was no classified or secret information in the Signal chat, does that mean Jeffrey Goldberg can publish it all?
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Jeffrey Goldberg has the texts, including the classified information. He could turn the texts over to the committee. He wouldn't even be compromising a source to do so.
That directive - if it was all above board and there was nothing classified/compromising with the communique and the inclusion of a journalist then by all means share it/prove it!
Who knows how often they have pow wows on unsecured lines. You know this wasn't the 1st or last time.
It just doesn't work like that.
Did all the Orange Turd Administration skip orientation day that went over the SCIF?
The 🤡 brought the whole damn circus 🎪 with him to his day job.
Which is also bullshit because being on the receiving end of classified information outside of the classified setting requires that you immediately self-report.
& Tulsi Gabbard, Director Of National Intelligence, Director of the CIA Radcliff, Rubio, Sec of State … there’s 18 top officials in the thread, bear in mind Mike Wallace, who Trump picked as is National Security advisor, Wallace prob thought Jeff Goldberg was another Jeff! dangerous incompetence ‼️
They all do. They're culpable by not reporting the breach and participating in it. ESPECIALLY THE INTEL CHIEF. 😳😬 This is so atrocious I'm still in a state of cognitive dissonance since yesterday. Mind blowing. 🤯
Just to remind people the thing that was most highly classified and Clinton's office email was a 22 message email thread that vague references to the CIA drone program that was publicly acknowledged. Even vague references were considered TS. The messages were deliberately vague because
The speakers were conscious of being on the "low side" aka unclassified systems and they knew they could not put in any details. There's no way this conversation couldn't be considered classified.
The emails, which did not mention the "CIA," "drones" or details about the militant targets, were written within the often-narrow time frame in which State Department officials had to decide whether or not to object to drone strikes before the CIA pulled the trigger, according to the WSJ.
Given the standard used against Clinton. That deliberately vague emails with zero operational details were still considered TS/SAP there's no way this chat was not classified.
Not if he shares it with someone cleared to have that information. In fact, *not* turning the info over to someone who can properly receive it might itself be a crime.
He said when he started in this position, people set up his office and "installed Signal" as if it were on a list of new employees protocol. Installed on what? And that doesn't mean it's ok re:classified info.
SO, Radcliffe seems to have opened up more worms when he mentioned that it "wasn't sensitive information". IDGAS (I don't give a shit), and it doesn't matter! They weren't using the right tools. OMFG, HOW are these people running our country?!
I would argue that by not removing an inappropriate person from a text that included classified information, they were ALL guilty of sharing classified information
They were, but , now they are trying to patch it up ..info like that needs to go through the proper channels before it is released ...it didn't , there is no record of that .. so now, is PR patch work , liability avoidance, and someone will be prob fired , but whom? That is the question .
I know, we’d expect nothing less than this PR campaign, but it’s still enraging me. Especially because from my understanding, it goes well beyond a resignation or firing offense. We’re in prosecution territory
In my opinion, the assertion that the information is not classified is a difficult claim to sustain, as it can be readily verified as factual. This is particularly true if the release of the information is hindered by redactions.
I *thought * I heard that was the case. I was rushing at the moment, but thought someone asked her if it was declassified before or after the fact. Need transcript.
Goldberg made the right choice to not release the classified portions of the conversation. He did state that there were CIA agent’s names cited in the group text that he wanted to protect. Also, before he published the article, he showed the text chain to lawyers, who advised him. Smart move!
You reminded me, yes. Goldberg said that at least one agent was named. If Tulsi Gabbard says that's not Classified, then Benghazi X 100 *must* come their way.
There will never be any accountability in this administration. They lie constantly, never apologize, and always accuse others of that which they are guilty of doing. It’s the Bible of Russia and Putin, and they worship at the altar of authoritarianism.
He may have too. But with no Witness Relocation bc Trump probably scuttled that too,he’s probably headed to El Salvador in a holding cell on a C-130. He’s got a first class ticket on Con Air.
Not totally surprising most journalists are driven by mission to serve the public (and right wing propaganda sources I don’t consider journalists). This Whitehouse is filled with power hungry people who don’t care about the public or duty.
Goldberg should talk to the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner, and offer to share the full Signal chat. Btw, can you imagine how past Senate Republicans like McCain, Hagel and John Warner would react to this?
Warner already has seen the chat. He discussed selected excerpts in the hearing, and Ossoff said that they would be reviewing the transcript very soon.
Maybe he should go to the Canadian embassy, request asylum and then share the messages from there. Honestly I would not put it past this organized crime government to lock him up for doing that.
They’re going to receive it as soon as the transcript is in place. Warner also stated select excerpts from the chat and asked whether or not Ratcliffe recalled this. Ossoff stated that they would receive a transcript soon.
Republicans built this. Great on McCain for that thumbs down, but how often did he vote in lockstep with that treasonous POS? How arrogant and indifferent the Republicans were when they were shitting all over Obama and the will of the American people. Advise and consent? Nah...
Shouldn't Goldberg's phone also become evidence in this? As much as I am loathe to put any journo's phone into legal play, this might be the one time that it's a necessary evil. He volunteered the info.
This is bullshit. tRump openly engaged in insurrection and continues to on a daily basis. It is televised, on his social media platform and in interviews. Why the fuck is he allowed to be president and why hasn't even one congressperson upheld the amendment that prohibits him from holding office?
Bc they like $ and comfort- both the Dino Dem leaders, and Republicans. That’s why they stifle the new generation in government who speaks out against the constant constitutional abuses.
No, it’s because any action they would do would be thrown out by SCOTUS due to presidential immunity. January 6th would fall under the umbrella of Presidential immunity. That’s part of the reason they made that ruling, so that Trump could run again, and thereby overturn state ballot omissions.
Excuse me, I misunderstood you initially bc I mixed up the original comment. I’ve been bouncing from responding to another thread on the latest breaking news and this one.
I remember when SCOTUS made that unfortunate ruling. However, these proceedings are not regarding Trump, nor his immunity. He was not involved in the messages. Presidential immunity doesn’t apply to his cabinet. Now, it is possible Trump pardons his cabinet, and that alone will raise questions
We were very specifically discussing why Congress did not uphold the constitution and prevent Trump from becoming President. I responded in relation to that comment. I fully agree, there should be consequences. However, you cannot create a commission without Republican support.
I'm just a gardener. I don't understand Constitutional law. Just using logic. 14-3 doesn't say one must be convicted or tried for insurrection so it seems all they would need is for one judge or even one Congressmen to make the accusation and Congress would have to vote on whether or not to override
Because they already tried that on a state level, and it got overturned by the Supreme Court with the presidential immunity ruling. Trump couldn’t be omitted from ballots due to sedition, as he is protected from conviction, as January 6th falls under his actions while serving as President.
trump has already said “I Don’t Know Anything about it” & then attacked Jeff & The Atlantic saying “it’s a magazine that’s going out of business”Hegseth said Jeff is a deceitful & disgusting person who peddles in hoaxes & this was after the maga gov’t had confirmed ‘the thread story was real’ 🤦🏼♀️
This is HUGE. The signal chat had the name of a covert operative. It endangered her safety. Should that just be okay!?
They can prove the existence of classified info in what he was given
I am loo
Yes. Yes he can. All he has to do is state at the beginning of the release. It is noted on this date the president of the US stated there were no secret or classified topics discussed.
Referring to “question that needs asked”. Everyone I know from Pittsburgh says things like “the car needs washed” or “the lawn needs raked”. Just a guess.
He might as well drop the whole thing on a public forum so our adversaries can turn it into a drinking game—take a shot every time natl security takes an L. This would be a global blockbuster if they made a comedy documentary called “How the West Lost a War in a Group Chat.” Popcorn not included.
Hahahah! 😂😆😝 I’ll have the tequila chilled and ready! Can’t wait for the documentary—Hegseth and the crew could make the perfect ‘reality show’ with all their drama!
Tulsi Gabbard just repeated this under oath, so he should feel free to publish it. A sworn statement by the DNI is about as much of a greenlight you are going to get as a journalist, no?
So you then need to also include:
closed windows,
1st floor windows,
boarded up windows,
spandrel glass,
Windows XP,
faux windows,
teller windows,
and drive through windows.
Because they all present windows of opportunity for the KGB.
the idea that it wasn’t classified, doesn’t hold”partisan”,for in the old days, not a matter of rep. Dem. For if we were living in any moment except for this moment,a special prosecutor would be appointed to look into whether a breach of classified or Nat. Sec.Once again ..start saving cans of beans
Dems do not have a lot of power here.. there were war plans discussed.. how it’s reconciled? The political technique of T and supporters over time vs. our own reality.. farcical defense. It’s compromised -Pentagon warned of using signal & its vulnerability to foreign penetration…
Thank you. I just said to my husband that since Gabbard is insisting that there was no classified information released, then Goldberg can print out all the texts he received during this chat without legal repercussions.
I've been watching this since the beginning, and I have to say that I'm digging the Ossoff. P.S. If there's nothing classified in that exchange, I believe Mr. Goldberg can.
They're certainly trying to bait him into doing it so they can have one of their fantasied show trials to send deterrent messages to the already compromised and failed Zombie Fourth Estate....
Exact plan times and progressions would have to be classified. We would never let an adversary know what time we were gonna bomb them.
They think we’re all fucking stupid.
The missiles will spread it on the ground, and what is happening now is just a farce to cover up bigger and greater things that are happening on the ground.
Once again, Dear Leader is in Opposite World, which means that in all likelihood everything discussed there was classified. And he's damned lucky that the AG is in firmly his pocket this time around.
Since they claim there’s no classified or secret info in the chat, Goldberg should go ahead and announce a date when he’ll publish it. Watch how fast they change their tune.
Two members of the "Houthi PC small group" signal chain are scheduled to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee right now (DNI Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe). Hope a United States Senator asks them that question.
Bring it on. Goldberg seems to be the only real American in the bunch. His hesitation with the information shows his concern from the beginning. Let him publish the entire chat, and let America be the judge.
He pretty much has to. There’s a legitimate argument to be made that at this point those messages are a matter of national security, no longer covered as a protected journalistic source.
Yes it does and he should. He has sworn testimony from the director of the CIA and the head of National Intelligence saying there was nothing classified.
Jeffrey Goldberg publishes the full chat
WH: Those are fake
Public: Okay, show us the real messages then
WH: No. Those are highly sensitive, plus we deleted them anyways
Public: So they were secret information?
WH: No. Unrelated, we are arresting Goldberg for sharing state secrets
of course the WH will insist there was no classified/secret intell disclosed, what else are you expecting them to say….they are all known liars…of course they won’t speak the truth.
I'd say the green light's been given to release the entire chat. However, Mr. Goldberg wouldn't have the entire chat because he left it before the real classified information was discussed. Yet, the Press Sec is slamming him for accepting an invite to an unsecured line. Yep, blame the messenger.
Adam Kinzinger:
"I saw the work by Olga Lautman and the findings were disturbing: Steven Witkoff was in Russia when he was added to the signal chat. Russia has infiltrated Signal and used against Ukrainians. Very possible they have the classified signal info"
Oh, come on. If that had happened under President Biden, repugs would be calling for arrests for treasonous behavior. DEMS need to start acting like protectors of Democracy.
Senators could reveal the general content of the messages without details if they know it should be classified and still care about national security. On the other hand if the entire intelligence community has testified that none of the information is classified then why shouldn’t it be released?
I’m not so sure it will work. There will be a breaking point where the consensus of the American people is that these people are lying idiots. Is that point here yet?
They testified under oath that what James has is not classified
Like Warner said, they can't have it both ways
Redact the agents name & release the whole thing
Russia already has it anyway
We need to have a bigger discussion on their use of Signal which, by the way, is encouraged in Project 2025. They are intentionally hiding as much as they can from the American people.
If it’s not on the govt protocol(?) maybe not the correct term, then there is no way to track what is going on. They are hiding shit they don’t want the public to EVER hear about. This can’t possibly be the first time Signal was used. Something’s rotten in Denmark and it’s MAGA.
I watched a movie the other night.
Not a very good story but, very disturbing.
The title is ‘civil war’ made in 2024.
I really believe if Trump doesn’t go now, it is the future that awaits the US.
Since I watched it, I am more convinced then ever that Trump has to leave now. Willingly or by force.
That is a scary movie. I don’t see it happening that way. We a in such a state of division, the US would probably go away forever if it sank into Civil War. Either destroying itself, or by invasion.
Honestly, our constitutional republic feels dead already.
I agree with you 100%, it is very disturbing.
My opinion
With Trump, dismantling the government, taking all Americans rights, already having concentration camp in El salvador, I dono, very scary moments.
But, the resistance is building all over the states.
Trump has to go ASAP
Willingly or by force
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"Not classified"
"Then share with committee"
"Well, they are double secret probation, I think"
It just doesn't work like that.
Did all the Orange Turd Administration skip orientation day that went over the SCIF?
The 🤡 brought the whole damn circus 🎪 with him to his day job.
Given the standard used against Clinton. That deliberately vague emails with zero operational details were still considered TS/SAP there's no way this chat was not classified.
They have been using non government devices for government business for years IN ORDER TO AVOID oversight.
They learned from the 1st impeachment when they tried to bury Trump's "perfect call" extorting Zelensky in some classified servers.
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/29/1089509352/trump-white-house-phone-records-show-7-hour-gap-on-jan-6
@markwarner.bsky.social
(Where is Emoji w head hitting on brick wall ?)😂
Maybe he will time travel and declassify everything in the signal chat retroactively to the time the chat took place
Hegseth and co better hope he will have already done that
Right now the material was both classified and declassified at the time
You need to put the entire signal chat into a box with a cat
No, the info should not be made public.
Yep…the start to believe their own lies…
Including the lie on their own competences.
https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Library/Memo-UseOfUnclassMobileApps.pdf
And Russia may already have it anyway (ref 03/18/2025 DoD memo)
https://www.kpbs.org/news/national/2025/03/25/days-after-the-signal-leak-the-pentagon-warned-the-app-was-the-target-of-hackers
🤪Goldberg has receipts!
Like, right now.
"Hey, a bunch of reckless idiots running Govt are divulging secret information to me in what appear to be violations of records & other laws."
Or he may just "disappear".
Or find himself poisoned with a nerve agent.
That’s the usual Putin methodology.
Fuck them all.
Witkoff accessing this message stream while physically in Russia is just shocking, and I didn’t think I could be shocked anymore.
Signal doesn’t keep anything supposedly.
The WH has never heard of Goldberg. Or The Atlantic. Or Signal.
Or Pete Hegseth for that matter.
If it involved US bombs, and a foreign country, it was classified.
End of motherfucking story.
2) It wasn’t important.
3) I declassified it.
Currently somewhere between 1 and 2.
Does it matter, if it is not labeled as classified? I don't know how this works.
They can prove the existence of classified info in what he was given
I am loo
ADMINISTRATION LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING!
He is 100% behind carpet bombing babies and war with Iran.
He should publish it word for word except for the name of the CIA undercover agent that would be compromised.
In place of the name insert: [ CIA undercover agent ].
This shit is getting real.
closed windows,
1st floor windows,
boarded up windows,
spandrel glass,
Windows XP,
faux windows,
teller windows,
and drive through windows.
Because they all present windows of opportunity for the KGB.
Free vacay in El Salvador.
Because, as you say, they've painted themselves into a corner, and Tulsi was flat footed trying to resolve:
If NO CLASSIFIED, show the committee all
IF CLASSIFIED, well, it's their ass.
They think we’re all fucking stupid.
They will happily say that the texts are both classified and not classified, and not lose a minute of sleep over the contradiction.
They do not care about truth.
WH: Those are fake
Public: Okay, show us the real messages then
WH: No. Those are highly sensitive, plus we deleted them anyways
Public: So they were secret information?
WH: No. Unrelated, we are arresting Goldberg for sharing state secrets
https://bsky.app/profile/robinindfw.bsky.social/post/3ll7jjxt5g226
THERES MORE
Adam Kinzinger:
"I saw the work by Olga Lautman and the findings were disturbing: Steven Witkoff was in Russia when he was added to the signal chat. Russia has infiltrated Signal and used against Ukrainians. Very possible they have the classified signal info"
And the WH knows this so they can keep lying because The Atlantic won’t get people killed just to prove a point.
The President is lying through his veneers
The all are
Call their bluff
Now or never
The only way to prove that this was done by senior administration officials is to show the info that only they have.
Which you can’t do.
Republicans are trying to tell you that Nothing Bad Happened
And
No, you can’t see the full text because reasons.
And the crazy thing is, it’s going to work. In two days, everyone will be on to the next scandal. It’s the Trump way.
Like Warner said, they can't have it both ways
Redact the agents name & release the whole thing
Russia already has it anyway
We the People own it anyways.
Or in trump Grammer.
!!!!! That is, EXACTLY!!!, what it, means!!!!!!!!!!
#ROPGOP
Not a very good story but, very disturbing.
The title is ‘civil war’ made in 2024.
I really believe if Trump doesn’t go now, it is the future that awaits the US.
Since I watched it, I am more convinced then ever that Trump has to leave now. Willingly or by force.
#RIPGOP
Honestly, our constitutional republic feels dead already.
My opinion
With Trump, dismantling the government, taking all Americans rights, already having concentration camp in El salvador, I dono, very scary moments.
But, the resistance is building all over the states.
Trump has to go ASAP
Willingly or by force