And to be clear that second group are worthless and should stop paying attention altogether. If you don’t have hope, get out of the fucking political kitchen and shut up.People who expect doom are literally harmful to everyone who hopes to survive and thrive and should not be welcome in any movement - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

eleanor.lockhart.contact • 20 days ago

And to be clear that second group are worthless and should stop paying attention altogether. If you don’t have hope, get out of the fucking political kitchen and shut up.People who expect doom are literally harmful to everyone who hopes to survive and thrive and should not be welcome in any movement

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Your average internecine bluesky fight isn't so much "credulous rubes who still believe Mueller will save them vs. sober-minded folk analyzing the crisis with a clear head" as people who cope with depression by being optimists vs. people who cope with depression by saying "lol see you in the camps".

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notesonthewayout.bsky.social•20 days ago

Found this creator on Tok and as broken down as I am/feel, it definitely kicked me in the ass in the best of ways (sorry if you don’t have Tok)

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjP5Sbmr/

killercyborg.bsky.social•20 days ago

Whether one expects doom or salvation is nowhere near as important as what one does about it.

Either path can be galvanizing, or paralyzing.

gdkalmbach.bsky.social•19 days ago

Reminds me of some self-righteous asshole who accused me of saying that "Trump won't be so bad" because I pointed out that Republicans have such thin majorities on Congress they would struggle to pass legislation (which is exactly what happened).

vvillyd.bsky.social•19 days ago

"Rebellions are built on hope."

gentlemanlydrinker.bsky.social•20 days ago

at some point it becomes fair to wonder or even presume that the second group does indeed want to see “the camps.”

azninho25.bsky.social•20 days ago

I have ZERO RESPECT AND PATIENCE FOR DOOMERS

They do nothing but spread despair and hopelessness

We need hope and motivation in these trying times, so doomers should FUCK OFF

whrwlfthrwlf85v.bsky.social•19 days ago

thatshockratees.bsky.social•20 days ago

I instablock doomers. Have done for years. I don’t want them on my feed where my followers can catch their mental illness of surrender.

crystalsoul42.bsky.social•19 days ago

At the other place, I used block EXTREMELY rarely. I use it much more here on sky. However, I rarely instablock. I, myself, have been known to have a bad day where my fears bleed through. My practice is 2 chances, then block. True abuse is, of course, an instant decision.

thatshockratees.bsky.social•19 days ago

If I have a long history with a follower, and then one day they express dooming, then I may unfollow but not block. But if someone just shows up and starts dooming, I see no reason for second chances with a person who’s already told me who they are and what they want to present with.

crystalsoul42.bsky.social•19 days ago

I can respect that. Frequently, I look at feeds to determine my reaction to a post.

homebrewandhacking.bsky.social•20 days ago

I normally challenge casual use of mental illness for people based on ideological disagreements, but the lack of hope is actually a mental health problem.

Unlike being a fash, which is the persistent choice to be so.

thatshockratees.bsky.social•20 days ago

Yes. I don’t use it lightly. Surrender as a first-line response is on the level of delusion and hallucination. Doomers are gripped by their doom and obsessed with propagating it to others.

jeninmotion.bsky.social•19 days ago

Another of my mental health hot takes: there has got to be a better way of handling people's need to be validated and heard than letting their anxiety/depression thoughts run free and I feel like we let that shit run rampant out here.

octopodeeznuts.bsky.social•19 days ago

I think we need to treat dooming as contagious, and quarantine it appropriately. Keep it to private conversations when you need support, rather than drag other people along into the doom spiral.

whatthelightcando.bsky.social•19 days ago

Ellie rn

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thezmage.bsky.social•19 days ago

I find the idea of a large hammer giving you “+2 against girls” really dark

whatthelightcando.bsky.social•19 days ago

It was a reference to old D&D weapons with bonuses against specific enemies -- and Ramona was fighting her ex-girlfriend, here -- but the author of Scott Pilgrim has said there were lots of things in it that he wrote for a quick joke that he now knows were bad/thoughtless choices.

cugel.bsky.social•20 days ago

Doomerism is inherently attention-seeking. The afflicted are driven to reinforce their mindset—and thus safeguard their ego—by vocally and eagerly catastrophizing at every opportunity to invite reaffirming agreement and, oddly enough, perversely reaffirming dissent.

staciajones.bsky.social•20 days ago

Agree and I think this is why it's popular with people who think they're smart but absolutely are not, i.e. "I did my own research/analysis and have proven my own thoughts are correct, making me feel safe and secure, plus I'm better than you"

azninho25.bsky.social•14 days ago

Doomerism is cowardice

Plain and simple

cugel.bsky.social•20 days ago

Anything less risks giving the mind space to nibble away at the absolutes it's established, with implications on the individual.

If doom isn't assured, what responsibility do I have to deter it?
If doom isn't assured, what does that mean for my dream of the Messianic doom-induced revolution?

eleanor.lockhart.contact•20 days ago

Seriously. If you don’t think there is hope for American democracy, or if you think only radical or illegal methods can save us, you need to stop posting and harming/endangering others. Log off.

djdunclive.bsky.social•20 days ago

Hell, if you genuinely believe illegal methods are the path to salvation, all the more reason to practice some basic opsec and log the fuck off. If, on the other hand, you're just a tedious poser hoping for a chance to cheer on someone else's illegal activities: fuck all the way off.

markshore.bsky.social•19 days ago

Stephen Miller realizing with a shock, just as the walls come crashing down, that darth™ had been operating in plain sight the entire time

invisiblelad7.bsky.social•19 days ago

And stop potentially incriminating yourself at the very least.

thebarbarienne.bsky.social•19 days ago

This part. I mean, we're all going to have our despairing moments, we're normal humans, but the folks out here trying to bring everyone down should be blocked as fast as the outright nazis.

sarabjustone.bsky.social•20 days ago

We’re not getting out of here by Christmas.

It doesn’t mean we won’t prevail.

https://www.jimcollins.com/media_topics/TheStockdaleParadox.html

alonlevy.bsky.social•20 days ago

What I keep pointing out with doomers is, if you're about to be genocided, you need to move, even if it means taking a low-paying job, as the German Jews did when moving to Palestine in the 1930s. Instead, every American I see plan to emigrate either is trans or is in a household with trans people.

henrythedog.bsky.social•19 days ago

nothing raises my contempt more than doomerism, I'm no body's optimist, but goddamn rage, rage against the dying of the light do not go softly into that bullshit night, fuckers if I'm going to hell I'm dragging as many of them with me as possible.

samuraicindy.bsky.social•19 days ago

This. I’m so done with nihilism.