Earth did not survive a collision with another planet, hundreds of asteroid and comet impacts, hundreds of millions of years of deadly radiation from space, five mass extinctions, and literally freezing solid for you to give up on her now.
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That is a really good way to think about it. We so often forget the sheer scope of time that is earths history. Was actually just at Natural history museum today with small no3. She’s a tough old girl mother Terra we will learn to take better care of her and move forward.
This is our home. Our mother.
These people, these creatures, are our family.
We possess power that our ancestors would have thought divine.
Failure is not an option.
Absolutely right. Earth’s resilience over billions of years of cosmic chaos and mass extinctions is awe-inspiring. We owe it to our only home—and future generations—to preserve what has endured such staggering odds. Giving up is not an option. #ProtectOurPlanet #Resilience
That is so true! Mind you, we will become extinct someday, but hopefully we’ll have plenty of time to move on before then and take our DNA with us! Level 3 or 4 civilizations are immortal in that they can escape such calamities by moving onto a multiverse or traveling through a wormhole
As George Carlin humorously predicted dacdes ago- " The Earth will be just fine, always has been. It's humans that are unlikely to survive if we keep going in this direction." The Earth will be A-OKAY.
As Rebecca Solnit has said, "I respect despair as an emotion, but not as an analysis. You can feel absolutely devastated about the situation and not assume this predicts outcome..." Hang in there, and be courageous!
I'm beginning to think that we might have enough time to science our way out of this. Do you see a specific way forward? After all, we're not dead yet.
The Theia collision produced:
- the Moon, whose gravity has stabilised the Earth's spin,
preventing pole-flipping and the consequent climatic upheavals
...
(Please don't think that I was trying to tell you things you obviously know more about than I do, I was just being enthusiastic and hoping to spread the wonder a little.)
One way I stay positive in this topic is for all the harm we have done to nature, there's still the possibility that we'll someday make up for it all by deflecting an asteroid.
I'd say belonging rather than reciprocity. We are a part of nature, not a partner to nature. And in the grand scheme of things, we just got here a second ago and wrecked the place.
Oh Earth will be just fine. We may ruin it for ourselves but you can be sure some other species or phylum will pick up the pieces and do something altogether new and perhaps much more beautiful. Shame we won't be around to make documentaries about it.
Thing is, Earth will be fine. It’s us and many other living organisms who are in danger. But even after we’re gone, something will still remain. Some extremophiles at least. Life WILL go on. It’s just a pity that we probably won’t be around to see it.
I find this an absurd framing. We're the ones destroying the planet and we're doing it willingly. It's a completely different situation than all previous catastrophes.
I don't find it absurd to consider just how rare and precious life on this planet is, and to push back against the idea that our planet is disposable or that our work is useless. I'm also surprised that someone who cares about decolonization is painting humanity with such a broad brush.
But even within the "modern industrial civilization" there are front-line communities of color who have contributed the least to the climate crisis, but are bearing the impacts the first and the most. They don't have the same responsibility as the top 1%, nor the same access to the levers of power.
I know, but industrial civilization is behind almost every form of human assault on the biosphere (and on indigenous, Global South, and working class people). I'm highlighting our industrial civilization as the culprit, not everyone on the planet.
I didn't compare the current climate and biodiversity crisis to past events; I said that we shouldn't give up on a planet that has crawled through hell so we could live here. I didn't say "the planet will be just fine," I said that we need to treat Earth like the critical life support system it is.
Especially with the early warnings. I've always thought the messaging was off point. And because of this there's been a disconnect. Climate change isn't about the earth as 'other'... It's about us!
Not a nilhist or misanthrope but I do think we know deep down ...we are a blip in time. I believe each of us has to do what we can, our small (or large) part to do better, be better to achieve homeostasis in all sphere's of life here on our little planet.
Earth will be fine.
The myriad species that disappear in the anthropogenic mass extinction we started? Not so much.
Human civilization based on agriculture dependent on a stable Holocene climate regime? Not everyone.
Look, I understand where thoughts like this come from, but what you’re saying absolutely isn’t true. It’s harmful and borders on eco-fascism and that’s not okay in my space.
Sorry but I have been actively interested in environmental issues for decades. I am just really frustrated. It is like most people either do not care and/or refuse to pay attention. The current political situation everywhere has made things even worse.
Yes, polls do tell us that most people say that they care but then they vote for the very interests that block meaningful large-scale action. What bothers me particularly is that the effects of the environmental crisis hit the poor countries hardest and they have no redress.
Especially since, *every single time,* the mass death involves the most marginalized, poorest humans, while the wealthy fuckers clamber to safety over the bodies of their less-resource-rich neighbors.
I'm not going to preach passively drowning those who barely have a life vest to begin with.
I hope Biden can do something to preserve the gains we’ve made coz the only reason Russia attacked Ukraine is coz Trump didn’t give information to them early which meant they were highly unprepared for it… hope he can do something to avoid that happening again and the inflation it has caused
The Earth didn’t literally freeze solid, but everything on the surface that was water froze. I’m splitting hairs here, but we still have a molten core that provides our magnetic field that allows us to keep hold of our atmosphere.
You're welcome! I'm a cancer survivor (Hodgkin's Lymphoma, back in 1995), and I think of that quote every year on the anniversary of my last session of treatment (which, in a remarkable coincidence, fell on my birthday).
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Guide Stones already.
These people, these creatures, are our family.
We possess power that our ancestors would have thought divine.
Failure is not an option.
We are the ones who are screwed
But TOGETHER, we can make things much better.
https://bsky.app/profile/mu-peter.bsky.social/post/3laowgcehfc2f
Octupi will be a lot kinder.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/etimes/trending/life-after-humans-a-surprising-sea-creature-that-may-rule-the-earth/articleshow/115417463.cms
It’s humanity I despair in and for.
But maybe fire is not so good though.
- the Moon, whose gravity has stabilised the Earth's spin,
preventing pole-flipping and the consequent climatic upheavals
...
...
(Please don't think that I was trying to tell you things you obviously know more about than I do, I was just being enthusiastic and hoping to spread the wonder a little.)
Homo sapiens ?
https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-serviceberry-robin-wall-kimmerer/21259025
We as in modern industrial civilization.
The myriad species that disappear in the anthropogenic mass extinction we started? Not so much.
Human civilization based on agriculture dependent on a stable Holocene climate regime? Not everyone.
We're part of Earth, just as much as Earth is part of us. Protecting our planet is an existential project.
But we are not.
So we have to act, urgently, to ensure that the planet can continue to support us.
And if you look at the polling data, most people actually do care, they just need people to show them what can be done and that their actions matter.
I'm not going to preach passively drowning those who barely have a life vest to begin with.
And we'll be forgotten.
....it's the people who are screwed lol
It’s a matter if she’ll allow us to live on her after all the crap we’ve done
Maybe down the line a new set of archeologists will talk about us like we do the dinosaurs.