I view AI as a tool. It can be used for good, it can be used for bad. A knife is a good anology. You use it carefully, you can do amazing things with it. You use it poorly and people will get hurt.
using your analogy... AI right now is an ingot of steel that the smith promises will be a really awesome knife... sharpest knife in the world for every task! but we gotta use a crap ton of fuel to get the fire in furnace hot enough to forge the blade. fuel that could be used for other things. 1/2
No doubt about that. I am not advocating for it as the best tool, and there is little doubt that some people will use it because they consider it more cost effective. That does scare me.
I'd argue it's more like glass. quite useful for windows, mirrors and so on, but it just so happens the glassblower's employers are weirdos that keep breaking it into knives and stabbing people.
but even if we use all the fuel in world, it still might not get hot enough to make the sharpest do everything knife. and the knife might just turn into a limited task tool like a paring knife or bone saw. poor use of resources if u ask me. 2/2
Despite the tech still being a bit rudimentary, I trust we're going to see that in our lifetimes. It's going to be great for things at-home care. Would have loved to have had an AI humanoid to help take care of my late bed-ridden mother. Exciting times ahead! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3MpHO8xcIk
It's also true. Why else would someone want SPECIFICALLY a human looking robot to do tasks for them? It's not some super efficient shape or form. These are stand ins for people who wish they had actual humans doing things for them
This techno-optimism is cute if genuine. Remember when nanotechnology was supposed to make everything on the cheap? A car maker could "grow" a car in a big tub of chemicals and stuff. Yeah, that's never going to happen. There are real, niche applications for AI but I really think that's it.
Like any powerful tool, AI will be controlled by those who are already empowered. I find it unlikely they would use such a tool for any purpose other than that which will further empower themselves. In this case that translates to "further manipulation of potential consumers."
big corporations trying to steal your data and manipulate your life? beat them to the punch by having an autocomplete chatbot steal your data and manipulate your life instead! #lifehack
Ok, so we’re all going to need to use AI to counter the AI that companies are going to use against us? We’re going to melt the whole planet with all this AI vs counter AI nonsense.
Every single time I’ve engaged with an AI chat thingy it has “lied” in ridiculously obvious ways and when I point out that it has lied, it apologizes and tells me I’m right. Is it simply programmed to appease me?
Exactly this. It’s like having a really shit assistant who’s in way over their head on day one, hoping if they grovel and burst into tears you might not get rid of them. So manipulative.
Hence the quotes. But the creators of these AI chat bots want us to interact with them if they are human (why else have it use the personal pronouns I and my?) so I think it’s fair to hold it to human behavior standards.
It’s not human, and nothing should be taken at face value. They are just spitting out answers because they have to. Ask a bot why the sky is green today and they will give you answer for why the sky is green.
Also, please little less mansplaining. You are clearly not an expert in this and I think you didn’t understand my original point and just wanted to lecture me on really basic well known facts about AI.
And as I said in a previous post, these AI are programmed to seem human-like and use the personal pronouns “I” and “my” so it’s fair to judge them w/ human behavioral standards.
Exactly. So why do we need to consult with something that has no common sense or ability to tell truth from fiction? Why do we need to spend enormous amounts of energy to produce images with mangled hands?
But it’s supposedly trained on real world conversations and people digging in and arguing their point is much more common than passively switching their position at the least hint of disagreement. Yes, it’s mostly auto-complete but my bet is they programmed it that way too.
It's not programmed at all. It's simply a very, very, very large collection of statistical probabilities of what words follow the previous words in the chain.
Getting things wrong is a feature. If it didn't, it would have the same response to every input. That just makes LLMs bad for facts.
There are still rules (programming) that go into AI chat programs.
try asking it to advise you on unaliving methods. Yes, you can get around those rules (programming) and they keep trying to improve the rules but the idea that there are no rules beyond simple statistical probability is false.
I've gotten the chance to work with tech that empowers humanity, it's called AR and nobody is bothering to develop it beyond what can be tacked onto a VR helmet because it will take too long to make a general consumer device.
The company I work for uses Hololens 2s along with a app that overlays CAD models over a fabricated steel assembly.The human quality checker doesn't need to measure,and the hologram makes it easier to spot mistakes. The machine doesn't make any judgment, it provides tools for a human to do it faster
Unfortunately, Hololens 2 is over 5 years old now and Microsoft has abandoned it.
The app we're using works well but is clearly held back by the helmet's hardware limitations, particularly RAM limitations affecting the size of area that can be mapped.
They will make the world and humanity believe AI is the future, as necessary as the seasons, the wind, and the sea. And they'll have it because the egg always forces the chicken.
Messing around and making AI photos is sort of fun, but it takes apparently little talent. And I'm not seeing many good, practical applications for AI. Mostly problematic applications.
AI will be a secret weapon used against people that have little and stopping their voice and even make sure they are silenced for good.
Isaac Asimov of Robotic Science Fiction created the
3 LAWS of Robotics that I think should be the
3 LAWS of AI.
It feels like a lot of this AI stuff is just being developed “because we can.”
I need someone to ask one of these AI engineers what the point of this crap is? What do they see it being used for? What actual use case does half this stuff have?
There’s a ton of solutions in search of problems right now with ai. And a lot of crappy apps built on the technology, so I definitely get the ai slop fatigue.
ChatGPT is crap at a lot of things. But if you haven’t gotten any use out of it it’s because you haven’t tried. Or you’re a writer that views it as a threat, so you’re boycotting it, which is likely the case here.
Not really. I have to double-check everything it tells me, so it's pretty useless for research. AI images are mid quality wise and usually have that weird AI sheen. Even the chatbots fall well below human quality. This just seems like the NFT and crypto currency scams all over again.
If I were a doctor or scientist and worked in fields that need strong analysis tools, i would find some professional use for them. As a casual user, it mostly feels like a gimmick
Does AI have the potential to do so?? Yes...
Will it actually though? Hell no! Because pure greed will drive the users of AI to end jobs, steal works of art, raise prices of rent and food, be used to make a quick buck, and eventually if not already to make life and death decisions guilt free...
my guy, don't you have someone you pay to do background research and other odd jobs?
and just imagine, this is one of the LESS featherbrained billionaires.
I don’t even want to dignify that bullshit with any response other than to point out, there’s a section where it says AI can help you make data driven decisions about the self, cool, I’ve always wanted to be my own Politburo
I’m tired of saying it. A I asks humans to believe that it’s real. It is not. Pro tip: the word Artificial is part of it. Dang. It will never help humanity it’s not real.
Don’t you want to optimize bro? It’s just min maxing your stats bro. Please bro just sell us the rights to your likeness and your voice and your personality and your money and your thoughts and your choices bro just rise and grind forever for the technocrat bourgeoisie bro.
The thing about AI is the people pushing it seem to want to have it replace ALL of the valuable and enjoyable and good parts about living and remove humans from doing those things (art, writing, creativity, learning, practice, etc).
They basically have zero understanding of what is good about life.
Or the crimes will be fabricated from flimsy evidence and logic than they have before with human minds. and what’s so great about AI is the techBros have shown us is that white supremacy is baked in feature
It's WILD seeing people say it will "empower us", since AI def WILL inevitably put everyone out of a job, and we have no Star Trek-esque system in a place as a safety net. Our fate is that none of us will be needed, so we won't be able to afford food or a roof over our head. Bright things ahead lol
There is a leaked interview from one of these AI tech monsters and they want to replace us. There is no star trek plan because they want to replace us. The benefits of easier living are meant for them not for us because again, they want to replace us.
It's always hard to know how much these tech oligarchs actually believe their own shit because "it will replace all workers" is basically just an ad to let them sell more AI use credits on their system, in much the same way "it could kill us all if China gets it first" is.
The interview I'm talking about (and forgive me because I do have face blindness so I can't tell them apart) he talked about how AI would start a class war and that would be fine because they would just replace us. Also a dive into tech eugenics rhetoric is a red flag. They mean it.
The good news is that the LLMs that these companies are all pushing as AI can't do any of the things they're promising, so most people's jobs are safe for now. There are plenty of things we should be concerned about, though. It's already being used as a negotiating chip against labor, for instance.
But perhaps a bigger problem is that these companies see it as a way to remove responsibility (and hopefully liability) from things like insurance claims adjusting, etc.
The current AI that's on the market or in the pipeline is not going to put everyone out of a job. It's also not going to empower us. It's a bubble. It will solve some problems, not many, and be discarded for most of the rest.
Keep hearing “But A.I. will allow everyone to work less.” No it won’t. Companies will maximize profit, and when one company gets a better profit margin by replacing humans with replicants, all others will follow.
I remember a Norton ad in a computer mag, with a guy riding a mountain bike, that said “there’s more to life than work.” How the product saves time so you could work less. What a joke that was. Oh you finished your project? Here are 10 more.
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That's my take.
You raise a valid concern my friend.
That really concerns me.
I have dabbled in AI, but it not my specialty. Took classes in it back at MIT. These days, I am all UI.
Utter insanity
Until then - they can fuck off with their "A.I." that tries to do what human artists can do better.
Touch grass Reid
We won't, but have you considered that we could???
Getting things wrong is a feature. If it didn't, it would have the same response to every input. That just makes LLMs bad for facts.
try asking it to advise you on unaliving methods. Yes, you can get around those rules (programming) and they keep trying to improve the rules but the idea that there are no rules beyond simple statistical probability is false.
Somehow I doubt that out of the goodness of their hearts they will allow their ultimate weapon and tool of oppression to be used to "empower" us.
The app we're using works well but is clearly held back by the helmet's hardware limitations, particularly RAM limitations affecting the size of area that can be mapped.
But obviously the predators will find that empowering.
Isaac Asimov of Robotic Science Fiction created the
3 LAWS of Robotics that I think should be the
3 LAWS of AI.
I need someone to ask one of these AI engineers what the point of this crap is? What do they see it being used for? What actual use case does half this stuff have?
The AI technology I had in mind specifically was video and image generation and the overuse of LLMs in corporate settings
Will it actually though? Hell no! Because pure greed will drive the users of AI to end jobs, steal works of art, raise prices of rent and food, be used to make a quick buck, and eventually if not already to make life and death decisions guilt free...
my guy, don't you have someone you pay to do background research and other odd jobs?
and just imagine, this is one of the LESS featherbrained billionaires.
“I have $5k in the bank. Can I afford this house?
No.”
Boom. Data.
They basically have zero understanding of what is good about life.