Why would you celebrate that flag instead of those people? I remember you smearing anti-genocide, pro-Palestinian protestors. Maybe those people don't want to be remembered that way. Have some respect. Honor them instead of the country that caused the conflict that killed them.
Maybe if Israel's existence didn't require them to kill and expel the natives of the land that never left and happened to convert to other religions over a couple thousand years, there wouldn't be a problem at all??
Israel has a duty to end the occupation, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, and genocide. They are an international pariah. They only go unchecked because of the United States' willingness to arm, fund, and back their evil deeds. Otherwise, Israel would have been forced to comply with international law.
Happy to answer. Israel is an official state government that is recognized internationally. Israel is an occupying colony. Hamas is comprised of people who grew up enduring that occupation. That's why Israel is responsible for both. Israel's government knows this, too. They have to power to end this
Hamas is the official state government of Hamas. They were not occupied at the time of the invasion. That's the West Bank. Educate yourself bud. Palestinians aren't as stupid as you think they are.
Another thing to know about the Israeli government's relationship with Hamas is that they were 100% in favor of Hamas governing Gaza for purposes of retaining support of their continued apartheid and occupation.
Israel has been an occupying force since its inception in 1948. There were already people living there called Palestinians. I'm not sure where you got your information. It doesn't check out.
I don't support the group Hamas. I also don't think the numbers were made up. I do have to ask... Are you saying you support Israel's collective punishment, occupation, and genocide?
There is no genocide - that’s an out and out lie. Rwanda, Armenia, the holocaust - those were genocides. What’s happening in Israel is a war. And it could be much worse, Israel is showing remarkable restraint. You say you don’t support Hamas while parroting their talking points
Not what if. That definitely happened. You can see the condition of prisoners released by Hamas and prisoners released by Israel. If someone died under Hamas captivity it was definitely from an air strike.
You’ll never see. Our media works hand in hand with the state department to spread the message. Al Jazeera will cover a child being sniped by the IDF just last month, but you wont hear a peep about it from the American media machine.
It used to be simple: Islamist terrorists, Putin, and Luigi Mangione are evil. No ambiguity.
The moral ambivalence and confusion between good and evil and right and wrong will kill us all
Ah, the old they "voted" therefore we can steal land and kill kids argument. Presumably bin laden justified 911 as US voters repeatedly voted for a US government that waged multiple wars over decades?
I try remedy this by focusing on promoting information about the murdered Palestinians instead of by scolding people who are mourning the 1300 Jewish dead. Many people lost friends and family in an unjustifiable manner. No individual's pain is more or less real.
Not true at all. Get over it and stop listening to propaganda. Jews want to live peacefully and want to stop people from attacking them. Israel is the only place in the world we can do this. Unless you believe Jews don't deserve to own anything, then please, keep expressing yourself.
I think people should be able to live in peace everywhere and I believe in human rights. I'd also like to see some unbiased reporting, but im constantly bombarded with propaganda :-(
THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION....But Hamas attacked Israel. It was not the other way around.
And if you want your facts, go back to the early 1900s (think around 1914) when the Middle East was divided up by European countries even when they were warned not to do this by T. E. Lawrence who did research.
What they said may not be appropriate for a reply, but it is sadly true in some ways. Please do not think Netanyahu cares about his people because he does not.
Probably because the logistics of tracking them all down are impossible for one person? Your comment is not helpful. Let folks honor and grieve and leave the "you left out..." bs aside.
I hope Palestinians will also get a honorable memorial like this. The hamas is a product of this conflict. Israel is equally responsible for their actions. Rest in peace all innocent victims of this abominable war. We need to stop supporting Israel and hold them equally accountable as Palestine.
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I haven't been on this platform long, but it seems that leftists got annoyed at the toxicity on X after Musk bought it so they all moved over here so they can spew their own toxicity in a leftist echo chamber.
Oh they are fully aware they dehumanize Israelis. They've spent years marinating in a racialized form of radical Marxism, where they develop a violent hatred of anything White, powerful, and Jewish.
It's ironic because most Jews in Israel are of middle eastern descent so they're not even white, but that doesn't stop white leftists from celebrating their murder.
Even if you support the state that never was (Palestine is a fake identity) - why are you (not Scott, the commenters) so ok with hostage taking and a toddler and a baby being killed? Imbeciles
They were killed in November/December 2023 by Israeli bombing. They were among the civilians Hamas wanted to return to Israel on 9/10/23, but Satanyahu refused.
Let me ask you; why were those 4 innocent people in harm's way? Who took them from their homes, forcibly? That's the guilty party. I'm not saying Israel is innocent. They've killed far more innocent Palestinians. But we need to at least be honest enough to admit Hamas is responsible for these deaths
🤜Hamas is the "root" cause! But netanyahu's hatred, not just for Hamas. But also, the Palestinian people! Has gone way too far! Humanitarian efforts on his behalf, are non-existent! He went in, and killed everything "breathing" in his path! The Innocence Lost is unconscionable!
Take it a step further and ask why Hamas exists in the first place and you'll discover colonization, genocide and apartheid on behalf of Israel, right?
These are innocent babies! They're dead because of Hamas! At a certain point, Hamas, itself, is responsible! I blame Israel for the entirety of this mess, but nothing excuses Hamas from being the garbage that they are!
Bank robbery analogy fails as police wouldn’t justify killing hostages to stop robbers. Israel, as an occupying force, must protect civilians under international law. Mass bombings killing thousands go beyond self-defense. Hamas is culpable, but Israel’s actions remain disproportionate and reckless.
That's not how it works. Those innocent people wouldn't have been there if Hamas hadn't ripped them from their homes and held them against their will in a war zone. This is squarely on Hamas.
Is anybody going to find out why it took almost a day for Israeli soldiers to arrive and protect its citizens? The victims' families deserve an answer.
Very painful and sad to find out this news! The world is so messed up and there is no accountability! Until there is, the hellscape is bound to expand. Sorry to tell the insane obese orange man and his gullible followers, the Riviera of the Middle East is a mirage. The suffering for all continues!
Chances are if they were taken hostage that they were killed by their own countries air strike. War is brutal. Strange that we only call out children’s deaths when they are Israeli though..
Not the point. Why were they taken from their homes and tortured in the first place? Don't try and shift the blame away from those who made the attack and stole the children. If the raid had not taken place the Palestinian children would not have died either. Hamas cares nothing for it's people .
A lot of different groups were involved, with different moral compasses. Some of them were like "Israel does this to us, so we'll do it too!" The main coalition was against this act and wanted to correct it.
And I've yet to see any evidence of torture. That's an Israeli/IDF thing.
Yeah, peaceful protest gets met by sniper fire. Zionism is a form of Nazi ideology, in a very literal fashion. Just instead of Germans it's Jews. Prior to holocaust they literally collaborated with Nazis to go set up their own version of it in Palestine, with the idea that they'd need to murder folk
They’ve brainwashed large sectors of their societies and enjoy the entire game, as everyone is nothing to them but an object to be manipulated to their needs wants & sordid seething evil
There has been a lot of proof that the IDF has committed crimes against humanity. So unless you have another source for your analytics, let’s go with what we already know.
No one is supporting Hamas no one. Hamas is not the Palestinian people and the Palestinian people are not Hamas. They don’t enjoy being ruled by terrorists any more than we do.
And if you believe there’s not a difference, then I hope you’re ready for the rest of the world to believe that every single American is a fascist. Because that is our government right now.
The IDF are terrorists and anyone who doesn't understand that IS a useful idiot. We KNOW that the IDF were targeting hostages so they couldn't be returned alive. The hostages have stated as much, thanked Hamas fighters for keeping them alive.
I have never heard of a hostage thinking they’re captive and if they did, it is likely a symptom. But I do agree with you that the IDF has committed war crimes for sure.
Living there - you know Hamas attacked within the Gazan Israeli settlements right? Some were also at a concert - in Gaza - it was a real place before it was bombed to rubble
It was outside the boundaries of Gaza. In yellow, Gaza. Nir Oz, outside Gaza.
You know you’re full of shit right? Israel left Gaza in 2005.
Braindead antisemite.
Many people commenting below are just plain disgusting. They willingly ignore the fact they were **kidnapped**, just so they can shout their deranged antisemitic bs.
You’re moving the goalposts but ok let’s play. Same reason Nazis exist.
Because they don’t want a Palestinian state. They want the Jews to not have theirs on their ancestral land.
If you think they’re a good model for “resistance” than by all means support them. Just be honest about it.
Maybe if Israel's existence didn't require them to kill and expel the natives of the land that never left and happened to convert to other religions over a couple thousand years, there wouldn't be a problem at all??
Ahhh, lebenraum-type grievances, see Nazis. There was never a Palestinian state. They’re Arabs. Conquerers. They were offered statehood 5 times—a luxury Kurds for example are not allowed to. Yet, they want the entire area. Fought wars, lost. Tough luck, but it happens.
There it is. You just dehumanized an entire population of people just trying to exist in the place they were born. I never even said Palestine. Zionist scum. The Levantine people welcomed European Jewish refugees until Zionists began attacking people living peacefully and stealing their homes. 🖕🏽
How about f...k the genocidal Islamist terrorists that butchered 1200 people, took 250 more hostage, including a mother and her two babies, and then paraded their coffins around to a bloodthirsty crowd of barbarians?
Yes the most technologically advanced and militarily powerful nation in the Middle East has been engaged in a 75-year "slow motion" ethnic cleansing campaign.
Yes because once upon a time international law actually meant something. Around about the time “Israel” was invented. Since then however “Israel” has broken more UN resolutions than any other nation. They used to care about public opinion and the what the global community thought about 1/2…
their actions. The stronger and more powerful the Zionist movement has become over the years by infiltrating powerful institutions and using Zionist money made from selling tools of death and subjugation, the less they care about global opinion so now they kill indiscriminately with no consequences
They were offered statehood 5 times. 5 times said no. They waged wars every time and every time they lost. They’re not the first people in the world who get worse deals when they lose war(s) & won’t be the last. They’re not special and certainly they don’t deserve so much cuddling.
Which territory did the “kingdom of Palestine” have? Where did the Palestinian rule? Who was the Palestinian king? Ruler?
And it was closer to half. As they kept attacking and losing wars they got worse deals. It’s not the first time.
bibi’s been propping up hamas & insuring the remain in power so that he has an excuse to commit genocide. 3 of the 4 pictured in this post were killed by Israeli airstrikes. netanyahu is a fucking monster.
Lmao Jews were there thousands of years before Islam even existed buddy. Jews were treated as second class citizens for centuries and denied entry to their holy places. If Palestine can't survive without gibs from the rest of the world and continue to resort to terrorism then it's time to fade away
You wage war, you lose, you get a worse deal. Welcome to the world. France isn’t giving up Strasbourg to Germany either. Turkey won’t give Asia Minor to Greeks either: Neither the US will give California or Texas to Mexico.
None of these countries acted like as animals kidnapping babies after loss.
Hannibal directive. A LOT of Israelis were murdered by the IDF. It's also the case that Israel is pretty much what you would've seen if you gave Nazi regimes were allowed to reign for 79+ years. Literally same aims, objectives, even the same set of thinking and execution of project.
/2 They initiated with ethnic cleansing and murder. They've continued executing land grabs with execution and murder. They capture civilians, including children, and torture/murder them. They intentionally targeted their own captured civilians with bombs.
I saw the footage they were “paraded” you fucking Nazi🤬. I’ve also seen the bodies of Palestinians returned by the Israelis, delivered the back of a fucking truck wrapped in blue plastic. The whole world sees who the real terrorists are. #fuckisrael
Do you know that Netanyahu was warned at least a month or two in advance about the attacks and did nothing about it because people were getting ready to kick him out of power in Israel? We can be for the Palestinian and the Israeli people without being for their corrupt leadership.
The first part of your statement is factual. The second part is conspiracist speculation with no basis in fact, and is purely intended to dehumanize Netanyahu and blame the victims of 10/7.
There are receipts. Even mainstream media reported on it when it happened. Check out Seth Abramson’s Proof. Even he, a Jewish guy, reported it. I believe it was the president of Egypt that warned Netanyahu. President came out and was very vocal about it in the media after the attacks happened.
Bibi had a ceasefire on the table for 8 months that’s exactly the same as the one enacted right now. He just refused to accept it. I hope you don’t believe in US resistance but call Gaza Resistance terrorism.. it’s not it’s racism.
Different President now. Different conversations behind the scenes. There is obviously a very good reason why Netanyahu has agreed to a deal that appears to give in to Hamas.
Neither Hamas or Netanyahu have clean hands.
Memories of the innocents caught in this forever war should be a constant reminder of the horrors caused by an unwillingness to work toward peace by the leaders.
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Neither group of people is wholly evil or in need of ethnic cleansing or genocide.
The tenure is marked by gross mismanagement, exploitation of their people, terror, and warmongering
These are not "orphans" it's a genocidal death cult
Sinwar literally got the name "butcher of Khan Tunis" for murdering Palestinians
This publication is from Israel.
Prior to the creation the British controlled the territory and prior the Ottoman empire.
It goes further than extermination. That's how sick the Israeli regime is.
You celebrate this? I could never.
May their memory be a blessing 💔
The UN and all of Hamas’s grotesque supporters and enablers are evil.
The moral ambivalence and confusion between good and evil and right and wrong will kill us all
We Will Never Forget. 🇮🇱
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And if you want your facts, go back to the early 1900s (think around 1914) when the Middle East was divided up by European countries even when they were warned not to do this by T. E. Lawrence who did research.
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Literal babies and you blame them for their death. Something is wrong with the pro Palestine movement. It's more anti-Israel than pro Palestine.
I haven't been on this platform long, but it seems that leftists got annoyed at the toxicity on X after Musk bought it so they all moved over here so they can spew their own toxicity in a leftist echo chamber.
They can't even feel sad for Hamas murdering infants and toddlers. Probably enjoy seeing pain inflicted on Israeli civilians.
I think they are trying to ruin blue sky so it won’t be a threat.
It's the bank robbers. It's always the bank robbers.
Israel has a lot to answer for, but this isn't their fault.
But acab anyway and that includes the idf
📢Fuckin asshole🤛
Take it a step further and ask why Hamas exists in the first place and you'll discover colonization, genocide and apartheid on behalf of Israel, right?
These are innocent babies! They're dead because of Hamas! At a certain point, Hamas, itself, is responsible! I blame Israel for the entirety of this mess, but nothing excuses Hamas from being the garbage that they are!
Fuck you for trivializing these lives lost!
Did you forget Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005?
And I've yet to see any evidence of torture. That's an Israeli/IDF thing.
Hamas killed them
Forgive me if I'm slightly skeptical. Regardless Hamas is terrible and Israel's response was also terrible
Are you suggesting coming year crimes was the only way Israel could have responded? Dumb take.
You know you’re full of shit right? Israel left Gaza in 2005.
Braindead antisemite.
Because they don’t want a Palestinian state. They want the Jews to not have theirs on their ancestral land.
If you think they’re a good model for “resistance” than by all means support them. Just be honest about it.
killing their own people on Oct 7 (Hannibal directive)
And you didn't.
But I did.
And it was closer to half. As they kept attacking and losing wars they got worse deals. It’s not the first time.
Which Palestinians have a right to their ancestral homes, because all have lived there, although only one was indigenous.
None of these countries acted like as animals kidnapping babies after loss.
Second, you're an idiot.
Memories of the innocents caught in this forever war should be a constant reminder of the horrors caused by an unwillingness to work toward peace by the leaders.