The totalitarian levels of bad faith and disingenuousness from MAGA is funny at one level but also deeply depressing because it’s the foundation for all this and until it cracks, I’m not quite sure how we get out alive.
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The keystone to all this seems the absolute grip the social media algorithms of Tik Tok, YouTube, Facebook, etc. have over the right wing. It seems nearly impossible to crack the made up world they inhabit.
I’m not an Elton fan but I think you might face some serious backlash from the 🏳️🌈 community for comparing Elton John to that talentless, drunk slob. Good luck with that.
It won't crack until they are personally destroyed by the policies. And even then it may not get through to them if they get the right "blame" targets from their media bubble.
Watching Fox's programming while the stock market implodes is depressing: the golden age to come, Trump's mastery in dominating opposing countries...and the designer behind Kid Rock's suit! All the news working Americans need to know!
Chris, IT IS A CULT! Like a real Jim Jones level cult. I’m serious. I know many refuse to see this but it’s imperative.
Once you believe it then you can understand the real danger because what usually happens when cults “crack” or come to an end?
It seems that most famous cult leaders either die with their members or in prison. The cults come to an end when the members are killed or commit (largely involuntary sometimes) suicide. I'm not familiar with a cult that continued on when its beloved leader was dead.
My father, a Yale graduate and Yale educated physician, went down the rabbit hole with Rush and now is unmovable. “You can’t change my mind” and if it’s not on Fox, it’s bullshit.
Musk would be a mere single-digit billionaire if it weren't for American taxpayers & government subsidies. Maybe worth $5B. Tesla & SpaceX wouldn't exist without us, the taxpayers. So where's OUR cut of Musk's massive wealth? We got him here so seems fair we get, say, 50%.
He left out the Media oligarchs set this up and pushed Trump no matter what. So many independents believed Trump saying he knew zero about Project 2025-etc.They thought Doge was a good way to clean up waste.They aren’t degenerate they were deceived.
And don't forget all the work that went into his Apprentice TV show, trying to make him look like a successful, smart businessman, and covering up his racism.
it's gotta crack...I'm for handing it over to the universe -- the higher powers -- keep visualizing your preferred outcome
-- I remember COVID in NYC - every day at 7 we opened our windows and cheered our health care people -- made a lot of noise
lets do it again
I’m not sure it will ever crack. I think hardcore MAGAs are just into hurting liberals at any cost. I just hope there’s enough old school republicans that come to realize their new party no longer even resembles classical conservatism.
There is no "classical conservatism." They constantly revise it to make it seem not terrible to whoever they need to convince at the time. Edmund Burke, the so-called "father of modern conservatism" was basically forgotten, then rediscovered in the late 19th century & retconned into that role.
In March 1945, no one said Der Führer was doing a bad job. By July 1945, no one had ever supported that dodgy corporal who held them hostage. And to get by people had to pretend to believe each other. Both times. Humans are like that.
Buy gold and oil stocks , wars are coming , stay healthy alive and surf the chaos
This will happen , America get totally isolated , terrorism , crime will rise , time tested guard rails fails in real time , this movie was 9 yrs in the makin..premiering soon on screen and broadway
My computer was old and my iPad old and acting weird. I quickly ordered a great deal on an IPad & a MacBook in stock at the cheapest place I found (had to be Walmart of course) but I got them both for under $700 and will be fine for what I use them for. I’m sure they will be doubling in price soon.
It’s going to take more than cracks to wake up 78 million idiots. It’s going to take pain, lots and lots of personal pain. Great Depression level pain.
None of this changes until Trump is out of the picture. Just sayin’. It’s primarily a cult of personality. They will still be shitty people who take pleasure in others’ suffering, but without him, I think they won’t be nearly as strident.
The fire bombing of Berlin broke the Nazi cult. This is not a recommendation, only a note how bad this is. On a brighter note the Soviet Union fell apart but it took 40 years of mass depression and American
Videos in the 80s. I guess we could start watching Scandinavian TV now. Free again by 2070?
State governments don't collect money on behalf of the federal government. At best only their employees payroll taxes could maybe be stopped, but that penalizes the employee.
It was already suggested and so far they're just towing the line.
It was a suggestion of mine during COVID. Worked great then.
Not so much this time.
10th amendment.
Well, we may well never get out of this alive. But I intend to go down fighting.
This is the message I just left on the websites of Sens. Deb Fischer and Pete Ricketts. It’s what a body says when your state and your country have broken your heart one too many times.
It's going to have to get real bad before the fever captivating MAGAts breaks. The "good news" is we are on track for things getting real bad. The bad news is things are going to get real bad.
when did the rw media break with Bush? I think it was after his poll numbers collapsed and they recognized support was a danger to their brand. MAGA *is* Trump and since Trump has no coherent ideology, no such break is possible.
I see musk using AI to build profiles of people based on social media posts, correlating that with SSA, IRS, and Medicare records to target dissidents with denial of services.
We hold the line - push back.
FYI- Betrayed by Trump .com is a new site where MAGA victims tell their stories. You could amplify that-
Bc the more MAGA hear what goes on hurting their friends? It breaks the spell.
I’ve noticed that too. It’s almost like they’ve gone so tribal some of them seem genuinely unaware of what’s actually happening right now. They’re drinking down Fox News and conspiracies like it’s Kool-Aid and just tuned out of reality completely. Starting to think we need to bring back sanatoriums
But WILL it crack? I'm not so sure. I think the MAGA are too entrenched and will go down with the Titanic and praise the 🍊🤡 for the opportunity to die for him.
Nobody knows how we get out alive. All I know for sure is that we ARE going to get alive. We’ll keep trying things until we make it. Doesn’t matter how many trips we have to take back to the drawing board.
I’m hoping this is the end of the Republican Party. The moderate Democrats can be the Conservative Party and social democrats can work for the people. Maybe we even get universal health care from the ashes.
A huge swath are fundamentalist Christians, many of these are basically theocrats and some are Christian nationalists. They see secularism as the greatest threat, which they often conflate with popular culture, so that they can blame the woes of our society on Democrats and Europeans.
Horrifying.
They’re upset because they voted for him to do unto black and brown people. Their dander gets raided when he does unto them. But we need to make alliances where we can. Just realize they’re transitory and transactional.
Nah. They're all white surprmacists who dream of fasicm. So long as "the libs" are suffering, they don't mind suffering too. That guy right there would absolutely vote for him again tomorrow if given the chance.
The first broken bottle or bloody nose at a protest; the first disillusioned maga-base who breaks a car window at a town hall; the first emboldened maga base that shoots up a neighbor - and in martial law the reprisals will be against everyone.
Reminder that #complicitmedia clutched pearls when Hillary pointed out the fucking obvious: His supporters are Deplorables. Racists. And they are the minority but treated as if they're the majority.
DumpTrump’s plan is to see how much he can f-up the US before the Radical Right Fascist GOP Congress and his braindead followers wake up. Amazing game of Asshole he plays with these losers.
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@chrislhayes.bsky.social What is your specific next move to actively stop this willful destruction of our country and ong madness other than commenting?
What all of the MAGA Messiah's madness is leading toward is Trump very own version of Putin's Russia. If things crash too badly, there is always the prospect of being enslaved within the neo-feudalism of the techno-nazis' company towns/states.
I keep thinking about how there’s no way to recall a Congressperson so they can’t be held accountable, and he’s changed the party in such a way that they’re all recalcitrant koolaid drinkers. 2 years is a long time to give a reality check if they’re damaging things at this pace
I think so. And he will have emboldened others like them who didn't come out the first time because they weren't old enough, weren't ready, couldn't afford to travel, didn't get the message, thought they might get in trouble.....
As a 🇨🇦, I never really understood the name "United States of America".
Not really United, although some administrations tried hard to move things in that direction. The Confederates lost, but they didn't change their minds.
Read up on the failed Reconstruction Era and the Compromise of 1877 and you will quickly surmise that the Civil War never ended, it just went Cold & Cultural with a major racially based flare up about every 30 years. MAGA is the Confederacy.
THANK YOU!!! I can't get anyone in my world to take this "appropriately" seriously. My like minded friends and family are in denial. They just keep thinking (and telling me) that everything is going to be magically fine. And also, they don't need to lift a finger...
The thing you are hoping for is it cracks. We all know people like this, many have family members that are MAGA, they can be down to their last cent, lose their home, lose their relationships but will still be saying the 🍊💩 was right.
You cannot rely on dem politicians to push the needle in the correct direction. With a handful of exceptions they’re bought and paid for by the same people that just installed a fascist.
1) That's not media criticism.
2) But since you asked: Because it's integral to political success.
See GOP politicians of every stripe at least since Nixon's "You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore" speech in 1962.
They do it in bad faith, but Dems can & should do it in good faith.
Dems need to attack demagoguery directly using science and history. Explain how and why populists and demagogues are so hard to wrangle and give people tools to fight it. Then they need to directly attack actual fake news outlets and investigate how they blur the lines between media and politics.
I was just thinking, it is actually their constitutional duty to protect the republic and that would mean going against state tv not going ON state tv.
Depends what you mean by media criticism, but especially as the tariffs set in, I think a potentially important part of leveraging GOP constituencies against their reps is publicly vocalizing the gulf between what those reps say behind the scenes and what they say to Fox et al cameras.
Can you explain what you see as the difference between partisans and electeds? And honest question, do you put my power on the same level as a member of congress?
I don't disagree that the larger community needs be collectively opposing this, I just think elected Dems, especially with Schumerian gym bonds and the like, have a unique capacity to frontline the two-faced nature of congressional GOP on this.
Elected Dems are way out of touch compared to people like Marcy, and she lives in Ireland now! There are only a handful of elected Ds that can match Marcy's understanding of, and messaging about, the situation we are in right now.
I won't apologize for Schumer--though those like him who believe in getting their colleagues to yes will do it via two means, both public (including at the votarama) and private.
But Dems' huge weakness is that many online voices outsource their own agency to electeds. It's pathetic.
That’s been done—that was the strategy in 2016-2020. From what I’ve seen, MAGA doesn’t care, and they loathe the national Democratic leaders so it’s easy to dismiss. Now that things are breaking, this is the time to explain how to put it back together better.
Gee I don’t know because it’s let Republicans to completely tilt the balance of “objective” news coverage so in their favor that huge swaths of the country don’t even believe what they’re hearing when GOP policies are literally just read to them verbatim?
Perfect. Garland doesn’t need to do anything. Elected Democrats don’t need to do anything. We should just all just hope that republicans suddenly find religion.
Centrists are truly going to be the death of democracy.
remember when certain folks mewled that we couldn't lock up Trump after j6 and sort out the exact charges later because then republicans might black bag people without due process?
Back before Nov. 5th I admit, sometimes I would bust out laughing when he was at podium, the people behind him, things he say & way he look. 🤬 after loss I cancel TT, Amazon, ect.. Weed helps😤
If the tech bro billionaires have their way, we don't get out. Four billion people dying is the surest path to relieving climate change, world hunger, and a host of other ills of disparity.
The thing that troubles me the most is: Trump should have been in jail long before 2016. If the DOJ had done its job back then we wouldn’t be where we are now. So, what now is our final solution to hold Trump accountable? I don’t see a legal pathway.
We are in a difunctional relationship with an abusive dad (GOP/Trump). In families with this issue, the best outcome that allows the greatest level of survivability for the family is after the 1st major event (death of a member/close to death) the child takes the dads tool and removes dad.
Then you look at the “opposition,” also dealing in bad faith, unclear about why they lost, blaming their base, holding up their hands begging to keep genociding and ushering in fascism with color coordination and ping pong paddles, unanimous consent, and performative “filibusters”
I don’t think everyone will. Since Musk walked into the treasury I’ve been sounding the alarms. The media is so slow, and frankly scared to call this a Coup, but that’s what it is. Already planning a third term??? How much warning do we need??!!!
Not everyone is going to. Every time this happens, the casualties vary, but it's generally pretty steep. The longer it goes on for, the harder and costlier it gets. Three weeks ago, the Constitution was still salvageable. That's probably no longer the case.
I wonder how Canada would feel about that? They hate us now. But I personally would consider it. I refuse to live in a fascist country with a bunch of mindless magats for the rest of my life. For now though, protest your ass of tomorrow people 💙💪🏼💙💪🏼💙💪🏼💙💪🏼💙
What makes anyone think we’re getting out in one piece? There are only three paths: acceptance of fascism; civil conflict, likely violent; or some form peaceful separation. We’re in a dysfunctional marriage and daddy’s starting to hit the kids. It’s time to file for divorce.
I've seen MAGAs blame Trans people for this mess. If they didnt exisit, they wouldnt have had to vote for Trump to get rid of them, so its there fault the markets have crashed. You cant make it up.
instead House Democrats sent my Rep, Chris Deluzio out, to say, yes, it’s bad, but…and then try to normalize these tariffs “if they’re done the right way.” Are they living in the same world we are? It’s utterly infuriating
Don't underestimate how long they can be insulated from the insanity. It may never crack. For example I noticed today's major news story oddly missing 🤔
I suspect that our only (non-violent) way out of this is a Dem sweep of the 2026 elections, with new Dem House Speaker, and sufficient numbers (with some R cross-overs) to impeach and convict Trump and Vance, and then the new Speaker becomes Prez.
Yup. The current administration, including the Republican congress-people are Making America Worse Than It Ever Was. Anyone not seeing that or supporting them is not talking to their neighbors, friends, and family members who have lost jobs and who are losing their hard earned money.
I know this is petty, but the fact that Nintendo has to postpone preorders of Switch 2, my ONE BRIGHT SPOT IN THIS FUCKING HELL HOLE OF A LIFE AND TIMELINE, because Trump is such a shitthead douchebag is just the icing on the shit cake. We can’t even have the bread and circus distractions anymore.
We will not get out of this alive. The best thing we can do is take as many of those fuckers down with us as possible. This is the beginning of the end. We must not be afraid to fight.
It’s based on strong beliefs in the make believe. Survival of everyone depends on how much pain is required to trigger a catharsis and the believers. And, how long that might take.
Maybe people need to start holding “mags rallies” in local gyms across these red districts/ get these people in one room and just expose them fully to the truth of what is going on. Open it up for questions. Have it be hosted by former republicans. Could it work? Idk - but it could be a start
We MUST resist
Protest
Organize
There are WAY more of us than them.
And, we’re the most armed country in the world. Not all the guns are owned by republicans
There’s lots of good people, few evil people and lots of stupid sheep. If the good people organise and stand up this is over by Wednesday. It is shameful that a bunch of racist halfwits did a better job standing up for their diseased idea of America on Jan 6th than democrats are doing today.
The people could rise up, in the millions, swarm Washington DC and every state capital and every oligarch business headquarters - then the military supports the people and we gather the Nazis up, give them a trial, then execute them as traitors. Some of us will die, but I don't see any another way
Why everyone go straight to public executions? What about: you go your way, we go ours? Let them have no healthcare, no unions, no clean air/water, no economic stability, no elections, no schools, no taxes, and most of all, King Trump for ever and ever. No executions, let Darwin do the work.
It is more than any of that, it is a Putin/Nazi Take-over. Make no mistake. You should be thinking of communities with like minded individuals like they have. I want to know my neighbor won't turn me in.
Nazi had a plan of attack, we need a plan of defense and undermining.
It'll crack when it's clear that either christofascism has won, multi-ethnic democracy has won, or the country breaks apart. And many of us won't get out of this alive.
When grandma and grandpa get their Medicaid cut and no one can buy anything they may come around. I say may bc some people will never be able to admit they were wrong
It’s pretty obvious that MAGA doesn’t want a democracy, they want authoritarian rule with them in power and make anyone not MAGA second class citizens. They are at this moment trying to overturn an election NC and they aren’t purging the government to give it back to the Dems. Civil war will happen
It's not going to be alright. Trump doesn't give a crap about tens of thousands of protestors at a given time. It will take tens of millions of people literally insisting that this isn't happening to even make a mark.
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I guess the Evil part seemed fitting.
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So no, we won't get out alive because this time around Russia and Hitler are on the same side.
Once you believe it then you can understand the real danger because what usually happens when cults “crack” or come to an end?
They are sub human vermin filth and by their own words and rules should be fucking exterminated.
The war is coming.
Sounds kinda fascist.
When he dies or gets killed, with the spell finally be broken?
-- I remember COVID in NYC - every day at 7 we opened our windows and cheered our health care people -- made a lot of noise
lets do it again
One in five
No one here gets out alive
This will happen , America get totally isolated , terrorism , crime will rise , time tested guard rails fails in real time , this movie was 9 yrs in the makin..premiering soon on screen and broadway
- #TheWhiteRose, Fourth Pamphlet
Yes, that’s what we’re staring at. The second half of your life is going to be very different from the first half in so many ways.
Videos in the 80s. I guess we could start watching Scandinavian TV now. Free again by 2070?
(We should still fight back, though)
So might as well skip that and just make the alliances you need to fight a civil war, since you'll be fighting anyway.
But, your governor is chumming up with fascists for the pod, so good luck.
(He may be disappointed. California's exports include big tech services and armaments, and Trump's made those look worse even without the tariffs.)
It was a suggestion of mine during COVID. Worked great then.
Not so much this time.
10th amendment.
MAGA is not.
This is the message I just left on the websites of Sens. Deb Fischer and Pete Ricketts. It’s what a body says when your state and your country have broken your heart one too many times.
FYI- Betrayed by Trump .com is a new site where MAGA victims tell their stories. You could amplify that-
Bc the more MAGA hear what goes on hurting their friends? It breaks the spell.
Unless the Left is ready to exterminate the Right, this is who we are until the end.
https://theconversation.com/a-1930s-movement-wanted-to-merge-the-us-canada-and-greenland-heres-why-it-has-modern-resonances-252587?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=bylineblueskybutton
I'm fortified.
Horrifying.
Here's another maga voter with buyer's remorse.
We can never reconcile. Perhaps separating might be the only viable solution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCj_q8tw-mI
Everyone on the streets, national strike, go with safety and strength in numbers.
I think two months from now is too late, never mind 2 years.
Now they are standing by...
And yet without protest the America we have known is gone for at least a generation.
I never for a minute thought of America as "great" (sorry, too much a history nerd for that).
But I thought America was at least striving to create a more perfect union.
Not now.
If they fuck around, they will find out.
As a 🇨🇦, I never really understood the name "United States of America".
Not really United, although some administrations tried hard to move things in that direction. The Confederates lost, but they didn't change their minds.
And now they are maggots.
I'm not sure some well intentioned people realize how close to the brink this is.
Whatever you would do when your country is falling over the precipice, I would get on with it NOW!
Is gone. There’s no one else who can take over the maga cult. JD? I think not.
2) But since you asked: Because it's integral to political success.
See GOP politicians of every stripe at least since Nixon's "You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore" speech in 1962.
They do it in bad faith, but Dems can & should do it in good faith.
That was my point.
But Dems' huge weakness is that many online voices outsource their own agency to electeds. It's pathetic.
At some point you run out of cheeks.
See: 40 years of Republican media criticism.
Centrists are truly going to be the death of democracy.
We FIGHT!
"Neither snow, nor rain, nor heat nor gloom of night, stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds!"
Today's the day we take to the streets!
Let's ROLL!
Protest
Organize
There are WAY more of us than them.
And, we’re the most armed country in the world. Not all the guns are owned by republicans
Lots of it!
4/5
All we have to do is hold the line by mocking them relentlessly, and they’ll take care of the rest.
The Democratic Party doesn’t want to upset people and are afraid to take risks.
Nazi had a plan of attack, we need a plan of defense and undermining.