well this is fucked: i was just looking on youtube for a version of the musk nazi salute and came across this version from nbc chicago that edited it out.
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Watch and wonder: did someone at that NBC affiliate act alone to cut Musk’s Nazi salute, or were they told by someone else to cut that bit? Did they protest by showing some in the audience Sieg Heil’ing back? Did they resist or quit? Tyranny doesn’t just happen.
Russian news organizations started censoring themselves in 1993 largely by their own choice or those of their owners. Mainly because it was bad for business not to. Self censorship is far more pernicious than state censorship in some cases
Oh, honey, TikTok been taking down comments saying Free Palestine since it went back live. Meta has announced there will be no pushback against misinformation. That ship has sailed.
There's a difference between not wanting to show offensive material and not showing how offensive a person, who seems to be the current right hand man to the fuck 🤢 president, is. Fuckin cowards.
Is this the one he shared on his site? I watched his cringe speech over there for some reason, then saw all the videos of his salute, the one he shared had been edited, as we would expect from him.
It's coming down from corporate. They're all falling in line like good little Germans as all the various media corporations fight to see who gets to be the new "Völkischer Beobachter" of the Trump Reich.
My bet is on the "Riveting Storytelling for All of America" lie of the WaPo.
Not to excuse it AT ALL, but I’m guessing some media outlets are mincing words because they are terrified of being sued by a guy with more money than god and who is extremely petty and vengeful and is being enabled by the entire US government, including a justice system that is largely right wing.
Yesterday, I had shared a link to the AP News live video that would auto-play at the exact right time stamp where it occurred, but the link is now broken and starts the video at the beginning ibstead and the salute is no longer there. Absolutely wild.
Whoa what the heck... I just opened it three times in a row and the first two it started at the beginning and the third time it opened at the timestamp and the salute is there?! This is gonna make me lose my mind. What does it do for you when you click it?
This is the exact link I sent to friends last night that autoplayed right where he did the salute. Now it plays from the beginning and I’ve searched for where it happened and can't find it.
I also lost hours of work on a Google doc last week and today I heard that people are saying if you use certain keywords in your docs Google deletes the file!
It reminds me of some friends saying that their Facebook autofollowed Vance and Melania while others said theirs didn't and then that changing later in the day, too. Is it crazy to think they are intentionally messing with how their platforms work (or don't) to disorient everyone?
Now I feel like I'm being gaslit by the YouTube player from this alone! Sorry for any false alarm. I swear I have opened this a few times today and it kept playing from the beginning and I couldn't find the salute anywhere. Argh!
Mass Media is complicit. They're fully bought and owned. They've spent the last couple decades pushing out any actual journalists so no one will oppose them in words. No one is taking it seriously enough to actually do anything.
It really needs to be said that the ADL's first priority is Zionism. They may tangentially care about the rights of jews and (rightfully) fighting antisemitism, but only as such pertains to increasing the land and power of Israel, at any expense
Also Zionist ideology is literally just nazi ideology with all the anti-semetism crossed out and replaced with anti-arab and anti-Palestinian shit instead. That and replace "Aryan" with "light skinned Caucasian Jews" for their idea of the master race.
There’s a lot of intersecting history that I don’t have the context for, but I agree with you in effect, for sure. Will say “We’re in our enclave over here, you’re over there, we will now racialize everyone” is…really truly the US playbook from day 1.
Not that it really matters, just reminded me of this discussion about US propaganda during WWII and the ways the US had to convince people of “Listen, it’s different when Hitler does it, even if [insert antisemitism]”
They're endorsing the party headed by people who have been perpetuating racist conspiracy theories about American jews for **decades** at this point. But they're also the party that wants to sell Isreal as many bombs as they want to buy
We're way past "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears" territory. And it's only day 1. NBC is just another institution that is failing its purported mission.
Terrible. Pathetic. No truths. Only ugly masks made of hubris, disgraceful distraction, obscene aggrandizement, blinding fantasies of revenge, burning pasts, polluting presents, subtracted futures. Fk this
I really don't want to see anything from X on here now. I don't want to see screen shots, etc. X, Tesla, Space X, etc. have long not been part of my life, but I want to freaking erase this existence of this fucking NAZI's social media from my feed. Makes me wish I believed in Hell for him....
Jimmy Kimmel edited it out too. Or ABC did. The last time Abc told Jimmy to
Stop making fun of Trump he said “Then I quit”. And ABC backed down. Will be interesting to
See what happens if/when they tell him again he has to stop.
Your president is an idiot dictator wannabe, the guy who bought the president is a fascist manbaby… and they’re to scared to tell the people the truth.
I saw the two salutes video someone took on their device. I was wondering "why the mainstream media's video cut off after the first one?" Now we know it was an intentional choice.
NBC Chicago is fucking up it's job. They were editing out the Nazi salute from Musk. Evidently, they didn't think that it was an innocent gesture. And they are taking the side of the guy doing the Nazi salute.
The top execs at every media company are RW goons. All of them. Think Linda Yaccarino (who was also hatched at nbc before workong for Trump, then Musk).
All of these people vacation together, their kids go to school together, it's all one big fucking joke to them.
News media owned by a corporation under capitalism is at best neo liberal, and will do anything to protect capital over any imagined "duty" or responsibility to rights and/or transparency. They are not your friends.
The legacy media has unalived itself. Question is why are some of us still following the zombie news? Even the survivors on the ‘Walking Dead’ could readily recognize a zombie. What is wrong with some of us?
YouTube has archaic rules re WW2 history that drive historians on the platform batty. Any references to Nazi anything causes the video to be demonetized. NBC Chicago chose a trickle of ad revenue over truth and accuracy. That theme seems strong today.
it looks like there was a version of the feed that cuts away from the first of musk's two salutes. it's been shared by some local affiliates of the major networks. seems like an editorial choice.
The Washington Post also uses that footage (and just calls it a high energy speech).
It's funny how you can still hear him slapping his chest and grunting, the loser really put some effort into it.
Both cuts to the crowd are perfectly timed to obscure what Musk is doing on stage. Would be quite the coincidence to have it happen twice in the space of 7 seconds.
Thinking about that Lincoln Project guy who was all “watch the inauguration and don’t look away from history” when the news media is whitewashing a Nazi salute
How is anyone supposed to look at history when it’s being whitewashed in real time
I think this is a really good case for no longer following or trusting mainstream media. TikTok, here, and Reddit are chock full of recordings of the salute. It’s nearly impossible to keep millions of independent accounts from reposting it, versus one news station.
Social media certainly can be controlled. And the video is definitely being suppressed on TikTok, or at least they are trying. But people are creative and smart, and finding good ways to get around the censors, and thankfully sharing those methods.
It's removed but I have to wonder if it's this "innocent mistake" like some say it is, why does it need to be censored? Can people not be allowed to trust their own eyes or something? 🤔
Here's a clip of him leading into it and showing both salutes. This is absolutely fucked. There are entire cemeteries dedicated to the people who died fighting this shit. Fuck nazis and nazi sympathizers.
Not to be lost in all of this Nazi space Karen - he is also an extraordinarily cringey awful inarticulate dork with a fudge ripple of loser through his core.
Words like "appeared" or "allegedly" are used by news outlets to avoid lawsuits. Straight up saying it happened could potentially open them up to libel, especially with how Elon loves to sue.
As I just found out, the Roman salute is a myth (they didn't do this). FWIW, if we are going with the popularized version of this it would "end" the same way that Musk's (and . . . err . . .others') but it would start with a fist to the chest first.
But who are they gaslighting at this point? The resistance is on it, his supporters secretly revel in it, and if the famously "undecided" voters opted for DJT on the promise of knocking a few cents off each egg in a dozen "after" hearing about what went down at the Madison Sq. rally, why bother.
The Roman empire was more or less a fascist dictatorship, but it would suit the medias better if they made more present comparisons.
They are simply fascists and don’t care to hide it.
And it's just not true. It seems the idea of a "roman salute" was invented in modern times. There is no evidence people in the Roman Empire used such a gesture.
No, it’s probably an interpretation from around the late 18th century. But the point is that is doesn’t matter what they comparing to. It’s still a fascist salute.
I never saw the second one. He has his back to the crowd, but he's not even doing the weird sideways stance he was with the first one, he just straight up Seig Heils with no ambiguity. And my parents honestly think I'm bullshitting them about it
Well! Now we're talking about a completely different modality than the old "Principled conservative versus radical left liberal" motif they like to share, aren't we? ;)
not really? “radical left liberal” is an incoherent right wing straw man. i literally mean liberals—mainstream democrats. many who would call themselves progressives.
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They are cowards.
This is a literal path to hell
People are going to die
They don't f**king care, they're doing whatever they want
It's sick
America is over
I'm sorry for all the people whose lives are going to suck because of this grade-A asshole
My prayers are with you
So here we go already ughhh
Their truth, NOT THE TRUTH
My bet is on the "Riveting Storytelling for All of America" lie of the WaPo.
https://bsky.app/profile/lemonde-en.bsky.social/post/3lgao3bjik52d
Gotta love that eternally soft language when it comes to the media talking about fascism.
The US has murdered millions in the dozen foreign wars of aggression in our living memory, it's kinda hard to take the "now" seriously
https://youtube.com/live/rahZ_CeEpqI#t=30155
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-worst-of-all-possible-worlds/id1570782388?i=1000679173696
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"We're gonna lie to you about the lie- video we're going to show you, cool?"
How gross.
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https://youtu.be/iZ8mowuxX9U?si=wgEjWzYg9XN61NcLg
Stop making fun of Trump he said “Then I quit”. And ABC backed down. Will be interesting to
See what happens if/when they tell him again he has to stop.
Your media is complicit.
Your president is an idiot dictator wannabe, the guy who bought the president is a fascist manbaby… and they’re to scared to tell the people the truth.
#BrokenUSA
Everything about this tracks and is completely unsurprising.
When Russell Vought appointment announced, all they said about him is that he went to Wheaton College.
WTF...... Do better
All of these people vacation together, their kids go to school together, it's all one big fucking joke to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l2CKriiKvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEacoDmGah8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blC6Ny9C1ZY
It's funny how you can still hear him slapping his chest and grunting, the loser really put some effort into it.
Yeah, that's the problem.
It was.
THE GASLIGHTING OF THIS EVENT IS STRONG
How is anyone supposed to look at history when it’s being whitewashed in real time
Hope you're OK!
Historians: "that's a nazi salute"
Average person: "that's a nazi salute"
The Telegraph: "Elon Musk makes a Roman Salute."
"The very last command of the party is to believe them, not your own eyes" - Orwell
Please open the thread link to also view a petrifying video from The Lincoln Project.
So, B.S. times B.S. on this.
They are simply fascists and don’t care to hide it.
WTF.
Made it as productive a day as I could.
That’s what the media did. SANE WASHING