Both he and Trump have alluded to this. They want people to know how 'clever' they have been without coming right out and admitting it. There's nothing to be done now, but there was nothing that could have been done even if they'd been caught straight away.
I fear they’re actually worse than Nazis. Nazis may have been eugenicists & thought it was great to do heinous experiments on “undesirables” but I don’t think that even nazis would have been antivax to weaponize the spread of preventable diseases on the nazi supporting German population
I'm not aware modern Germany has any problems relating to past guilt. They're aware of what fascism and Nazism did to Germany, and many other nations, and are concerned to remember it as a way of guarding against it happening again. But guilt? They're not fascists now. Does Musk not realize that?
Is he thinking of Germans like Neo-Confederate southerners in the USA who can't bear to discuss slavery, racism, the Civil War, lest they feel "guilty" for worshipping their ancestors who were engaged in those things? Funny. I don't think ancestor worship is a big thing in modern Germany.
You know. It happened. It was bad. Nothing anyone alive can do about it now, so nothing really to feel guilty about. However, one can do things to prevent it happening again, and if one isn't doing them, then sure, I suppose one may feel guilty about that. So do something, talk about it.
I am from Germany and I can confirm what you said. The 3rd Reich was a catastrophe and we as descendants of the perpetrators,are responsible that this never happens again. In School it is taught extensively and not just taught, it is normal that school classes(10th grade usually) visit 1/2
concentration camps. Another example would be the Stolpersteine, in front of places of victims of the Nazis, Stolpersteine are pavements stones,where it is written on there,who lived and what happened to them. Stolpersteine translated literally means stumbling stone. They are meant to be noticed.2/3
It has become tradition to clean Stolpersteine on days like the holocaust remembrance day. Also there are no schools named after "good" Nazis,but after resistance fighters like Hans and Sophie Scholl. Regarding allied bombardement,it is a result of the Nazis for starting the war. 3/?
And the remembrance plaques on the schools and houses where Jews were rounded up or held and from where our people were deported. I know them very well in France.
May the world never forget. Not only us, but all the victims of the Nazis.
It's also just one of those things that defenders of past atrocities claim when campaigners try to acknowledge them and address their legacies. 'I'm not guilty, I wasn't there.' Nobody is saying you were, but these acts reverberate today in power & wealth imbalances, and we have to address that
He was making a speech to AfD, so yes, they literally are nazis. If he pretends he's talking to Germans, it's the second as pretending to talk to all Americans, but with dog-whistle references to white supremacist fascists
He sees it as guilt because his family is reminded to actually feel guilty about apartheid and he hates it. And he doesn’t want people to remember because he wants to repeat it
The path Musk has chosen as Trump’s hatchet man is one that cannot be undone. There will be no escaping the long shadow of this association. The future will hold increasing scrutiny and retribution that will make it impossible for him to ever return to his previous role as a tech entrepreneur.
Bro did a full ass Nazi salute, and half the nation is arguing over whether or not our eyes can be trusted to see reality or some shit. None of this matters. Slightly under half of voters like Nazi rhetoric and imagery, and the other half can't be fucked to mobilize against them. It's over
The point of our Grandfathers fighting so bravely 80 years ago was based on the promise that Germans would pass that shared guilt onto their children to ensure that scourge was eradicated for generations to come. They don’t need absolution. They need all of us to do the same!
It’s a good article, but I only kind of agree with, “But to walk up to career public servants…megalomaniacal brain worms.” I’ve worked in tech (not even in the Bay Area!) for more than 25 years, and this is just a totally normal thing among a portion of geeks. Many think they’re Better Than You.
“More than 25 years”. Indeed, if I include my experience in the free software world (mostly in grad school) it’s way more than that. I started having these experiences in tech before 4chan existed, so even if you’re right I’d suggest the causal arrow points the other way.
You don’t need to convince me that Nazis use the Internet to recruit. But having been an undergraduate when mere undergraduates didn’t qualify for access to the Internet, I can testify that Nazis will recruit however possible. I remember them at my school, with surprising success. Stop Nazis.
Thank you for saying it! I get journaslistic integrity and the importance of staying objective, but when the objective facts are so blatant, not acknowledging them becomes propaganda for the fascists.
And now, a teacher there told me that in a Stafford County VA Middle School, so many students are openly making hitler salutes in the cafeteria, that teachers cannot stop them.
Musk did this to America.
Yeah RFK Jr. did his 14 and 88 tweet about secret service protection months ago. These people are literally nazis, but when they call themselves azi-nays the American people are blithely unaware. It's a super secret code that can only be understood by people who care to look.
“neo-nazis”, would seem to me. And the Trump cabinet should be called “Putin apparatchiks” (putinchiks?) given the government is so clearly appeasing the Russian dictator and abandoning Ukraine. Keep calling the latter, “Trump’s Afghanistan”.
If the Democrat, Inc. aren't taking this seriously by offering real coalition building incentives to oppose it, then either the Democrats are collaborating or they don't believe its serious.
WW2 Britain offered an end to colonialism and taxpayer funded universal healthcare.
The one good thing about Musk is that he seems to take the free speech thing seriously. I just compared him to Genghis Khan and Hitler on his own website and wrote that we would all be better off if his private jet were to crash, and my profile is still there. Hitler wouldn't have allowed that.
It’s “Presidents” Day, or “Presidents’”, you fucking Nazis. Multiple “Presidents”, as in Washington and Lincoln.
That’s like me spelling it “Fuhrer” without the umlaut. How would that make you feel?
There are people saying shit like "this is qanon numerology shit" and it's really annoying. He is a fucking nazi, and yes this is him trolling us "I'm not touching you!" etc but the reason he's doing it is to say "I'm a nazi and there's nothing you can do about it"
We Jews warned about Trump during his 1st term. He is a Nazi. Elon is as well. He knows exactly what he is dong. He is showing the world who he really is.
X is full of them. Elon gave them a home where they can call for TND & TJD which is a call for the total death of Blacks & Jews. They've actually posted that as they celebrate Hitler's birthday, etc. Truly disgusting.
Yes
14 Words" is a reference to the most popular white supremacist slogan in the world: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
I cannot confirm that you have received my subscription. Your website is not on the Dan even want to call the Apple Store anyway I’m old I have a hard time with technology and this is not helpful.
“My political awakening began with an article in my Freshman year of high school,” Kliger wrote.
“It was Our American Pravda by Ron Unz, a piece that laid out, in relentless detail, the sheer scale of media distortion in modern America…Reading it was like putting on glasses for the first time."
The Musk acolyte inspired by Unz’s post “American Pravda: Holocaust Denial,” that states,
“energetic Jewish activists have successfully lobbied Western nations into replacing their traditional religion of Christianity with the new religion of Holocaustianity.” https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/nazis-musk-kliger
First the not see salute now the 14 flags. Who is fn stopping him? @democrats.org You have the power to get rid of him. We're you threatened, paid, WHAT? We know the other side has been compromised, WHAT'S GOING WITH YOU??
They're moving like they're scared. How many will go to the dark side, or have? Does swearing an oath mean nothing now? Well, we know why Trump didn't put his hand on the Bible.
He's not even fucking subtle. What's he gonna do next, preach about 88 days off his life or a new H series 8 swaticar? Start talking about Viking seax long knives? Send his to Mars already. Let him eat Mars dirt. Push him out an airlock.
Jfc I didn’t even catch that last time. How long before he starts posting swastikas and is just like “I’m not a nazi, it’s an ancient Hindu symbol for peace”
sort of like how I just went to the dinner because I wanted their fired chicken sandwich, so I order that, they cooked it brought to my table and I ate it, kind of coincidence?
For those who don't know:
14 Words: a reference to white supremacist slogan "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children."
Often used as 1488 with the 88 signifying "Heil Hitler" since H is the 8th letter of the alphabet.
420 (Hitler's birthday) also celebrated by them
So Musk used the 14-flags twice this weekend and 14 is a calling card for white supremacists? That is vile and there is zero chance it was an accident. We know for sure that we’re fighting Nazis at this point. There can be NO co-governing/ co-existing with card-carrying Nazis. None whatsoever.
We need to stop referring to the current system as an oligarchy (it has always been that) and start to use terms such as Nazi, fascism etc in a straightforward, matter-of-fact way
“From 1945…German government paid approximately $86.8 billion in restitution and compensation to Holocaust victims and their heirs…Thousands more pieces of looted art are still missing worldwide.” 🖼️💙✨
NO. actually, Germany made such a colossal mistake that they should remember it for the next thousand years. America is now in the process of making the same mistake.
I believe Elin wants to conquer nations by commandeering the American military and controlling communication via Starlink, forcing banking through X.
Sounds crazy but it's not unrealistic at this point. Considering how far he's gone with eugenics and hitlerisms so far.
Musk says he’s a Nazi with his salutes and symbols! Trace the lineage: Musk's grandparents were Canadian Nazis who fled to apartheid South Africa after WWIl to evade prosecution. Now this third-generation Nazi has captured our government and treasury. #wakeup #nazi
Musk should go to the Holocaust Museum in Washington. Look at the pictures. Look at the displays of children's coats, and teddy bears stacked high. See the pictures of the concentration camps. Know that these people suffered and continue to suffer due to people like Musk and his lack of morals.
That'd be completely pointless. He is the same as Trump. Completely incapable of empathy. They believe that if you made the ultimate sacrifice in war or were subject to a genocide you were simply an unworthy loser. Neither can comprehend the existence of others. Look how they treat their children
Yes, you are correct. Perhaps that is why Elon and his family came to the United States as his bullshit in South Africa wasn't accepted. He couldn't buy his way into the government.
We Jews warned during Trump's first term that he was a nazi & fascist. Some said we were exaggerating. We were not. Thank G-D for brave souls like you, Marisa, to call them out for what they are: modern day Nazis & fascists.
People need to see them for who they truly are and how dangerous they are.
I’ve been fighting guys with swaz and iron cross tattoos for decades. They’ve always been actual fucking Nazis.
…They’ve always been actual fucking Nazis.
That essay by Unz is typical of how scattered and poorly reasoned far right thought always is. As a high school essay it's a B, and yet apparently it was lionized in far-right circles. It reminds me of reading Ayn Rand and thinking "Seriously? *This* is what they making a big fuss about?"
According to the right, the bar for communism is the government doing stuff that isn’t the police or military. Any comparison of them to fascist movements short of literal SS cosplay is leftist histrionics.
Hey @washingtonian.bsky.social & @washingtonpost.com .. what is correct protocol in case we see either or both of these NAZIS in a DC restaurant? Thanks
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May the world never forget. Not only us, but all the victims of the Nazis.
nazis are delusional nihilistic death cultists. who would want to be them?
I wish I had kept the article about how Nazis use the Internet to recruit.
they aint gonna shoot themselves
Who knew.. 🤷🏾🤦🏾
It's wild to be living through this.
Because democrats are also fascist, and we need to use two different words here as we attempt to uphold controlled opposition in the fascist us.
Saying nazi just hedges bets for zionists when this regime falls.
Musk did this to America.
https://marthabeck.com/2022/07/outlasting-the-extinction-burst/
WW2 Britain offered an end to colonialism and taxpayer funded universal healthcare.
— Hannah Arendt
Words that unite us around justice, equity, and human dignity for all fight fascism.
#84 = HD = Human Dignity
https://youtu.be/-S89lZ7H-lc?si=qoN2556ijeGZxgcG
That’s like me spelling it “Fuhrer” without the umlaut. How would that make you feel?
Although I was already convinced by the nazi salute which could not have been more clear and yet people just pretend it didn’t happen
432 U.S. 43 (1977)
14 Words" is a reference to the most popular white supremacist slogan in the world: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
Not far away here in NJ, but lived downtown for 15 yrs. Best years of my life
“It was Our American Pravda by Ron Unz, a piece that laid out, in relentless detail, the sheer scale of media distortion in modern America…Reading it was like putting on glasses for the first time."
“energetic Jewish activists have successfully lobbied Western nations into replacing their traditional religion of Christianity with the new religion of Holocaustianity.”
https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/nazis-musk-kliger
A bad thing happened and we recognize it. That’s it
In ASCII, X is numerically represented by 88.
They won that war and waited eighty years to replenish their ranks.
And now look at what they’ve done.
How obvious
As a kid I’d see racists in AOL chat rooms greeting each other with “88” or “14/88”
14 Words: a reference to white supremacist slogan "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children."
Often used as 1488 with the 88 signifying "Heil Hitler" since H is the 8th letter of the alphabet.
420 (Hitler's birthday) also celebrated by them
DONVICT is a felonious rapist
#NeverAgain
https://www.state.gov/reports/just-act-report-to-congress/germany/
Sounds crazy but it's not unrealistic at this point. Considering how far he's gone with eugenics and hitlerisms so far.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEPp8V3Okys/?igsh=MW9zZ3A1MDE4eG9nMA==
People need to see them for who they truly are and how dangerous they are.
…They’ve always been actual fucking Nazis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXfafZo3H84