The White House welcomes that fight. "This is headed to the Supreme Court. And we're going to win.”
Yep, that’s why they wanted control of SCOTUS. A lot legal talking heads are going to be embarrassed when Trump wins.
But have no fear, none will lose their TV spots.
Trump is really angling to paint Democrats as people who welcome criminals, not as people wishing to ensure that the laws of America are properly adhered to by the administration
What Trump will do is quickly and silently get people he does not want on planes & ensure they hit international waters
I wouldn't be so confident about SCOTUS if I were in their shoes. Roberts isn't gonna go for this and I'm guessing ACB isn't either. She's a religious zealot not a MAGA. They may have 4 votes but it ain't 5.
This admin acts as though no law is valid or needs to be followed until the Supreme Court reaffirms it. It's inherently lawless while going through the legal motions...
“On advice from a team of administration lawyers, the administration pressed ahead.” These shithead lawyers will face the same consequences people like John Yoo faced—nothing at all!
Interesting position and raises so many questions. Who was on those planes, what was their status, did DOJ use hearing delay to get beyond US territory (and lie to judge about it)? Note that they keep denying they violated the order (which they’ve appealed). We’ll see what court says.
But if only basis for saying they didn’t violate the order is that the order was invalid - well, that’s what appeals are for. So that would be open defiance in my book.
Very murky
“It's unclear how many of the roughly 250 Venezuelans were deported under the Alien Enemies Act and how many were kicked out of the U.S. due to other immigration laws.
It's also not clear whether all of them were actually gang members.”
There is no point in dragging it to the supreme courts right now, because they will eventually get it it the judge simply ask the Marshalls to arrest everyone involved in disregarding court orders. Someone just reminded me the courts have Marshalls.
The democracy that we’ve known is very close to collapse. Once the rule of law is ignored we’re now in an autocracy. We can no longer count on our institutions to fix this.
Wait minute…when Trump issued Exec. Order to stop aid to Ukraine, they turned planes around. But this time it is ok to continue the flights . How can they argue such an inconsistency in Court?
Here is the thing. If they knew what they were doing was legal they would not rush and try to not get caught. They know that what they are doing is illegal but they still want to do it to try and win the messaging war.
As Dr. King said, Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
"We wanted them on the ground first, before a judge could get the case..."
Openly admitting that you were trying to get away with something quickly because you KNEW it was illegal and would be shut down the instant a judge heard about it. Holy shit.
They can call the people on those planes "thugs," "criminals," and "rapists" until they're blue in the face. Without due process, the allegations and slurs are propaganda, and nothing more.
“Do you hear the people sing, singing a song of angry men, it is the music of a people who will not be slaves again. When the beating of your heart echoes the beating of the drums, there is a fight about to start when tomorrow comes.” Les Miserables
An anthem for our times! 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇨🇦 https://youtu.be/1q82twrdr0U
Given the current "direction" of the continuous contempt shown, "contempt charges" should be superseded with arrest and incarceration. Things will only get worse as Trump accelerates his attacks on the Constitution.
February 13, 2017
"The whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
I think many people really don’t understand what’s going on here. Eddie Glaude was on Nicolle’s show today. His discussion about who we are as a people was an undeniable indictment of us. Eddie is powerfully real.
Denigrating women, minorities, and the judicial system.
In military jargon, Trump is "softening up" the targets prior to making his ultimate move: declaring a national emergency, invoking the Insurrection Act, and instituting martial law.
SAVE Act has been introduced in the house, making it harder for minorities and women to vote. The way this is all going, it feels naive to think a vote will ever matter.
Indivisible is planning a nationwide protest on April 5, along with a march in DC, I think. I’m considering it. It’s a tad scary.
A million years ago my mom used to watch Locked Up Abroad on TLC or wherever and it scared the shit out of me that I could be arrested in another country. The idea that I can be sent there by the fking president is *literally* one of my nightmares. youre fucked! How can you ever be unfucked? 😭😭😭
Anyone thinking that the old role of law still applies in America is delusional. Fascism is there, RIGHT NOW. There is no longer any due process. If you don't fight this LITERALLY then it will get worse. It's not hyperbole to say the death camps are on their way.
If I was a blue state Senator I would cancel all my town halls and book tours, fly back to DC, and convene my staff to write subpoenas for cabinet members whose directives appear to violate the Bill of Rights. #MagnaCartaMoment
I hate to tell Pee-wee German, but we’re not war with anybody. We’re not war with Venezuela so they’re gonna lose this in Supreme Court. And Pee-wee German can shut up.
I don’t think so because we have to be at war to do that. They know that.. I don’t think they’re gonna agree with him on this . This is a bad thing cause it was used in World War II and it put Japanese people in in internment camps George takei that’s on here was putting in one when he was a child .
Even if SCOTUS does rule that this was illegal, who exactly is going to compel trump or any member of his administration to do whatever they rule must be done? And how? Using what instruments? This seems like a pre-lost battle, in terms of actual consequences for trump...
True but what’s gonna happen is the courts are gonna say no cause we’re not at war with Venezuela . Even the Supreme Court would say that. He’s just trying to break the rules and he’s gonna find out that he can’t do this.
"I noticed in the news clips that none of the supposed Venezuelan criminals deported appeared to have tattoos. Tattoos are very popular among Venezuelan crime gangs. Could it be that they were actually Venezuelan dissidents sent back for political prosecution? An offer from the remaining Koch?
Our Russian asset had a dry run of this in the UK. The overthrow of the rule of law with the collusion of people who own the British media but pay not a penny in tax here.
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#SCOTUSgotSomeSPLAININtodo
Yep, that’s why they wanted control of SCOTUS. A lot legal talking heads are going to be embarrassed when Trump wins.
But have no fear, none will lose their TV spots.
What Trump will do is quickly and silently get people he does not want on planes & ensure they hit international waters
“It's unclear how many of the roughly 250 Venezuelans were deported under the Alien Enemies Act and how many were kicked out of the U.S. due to other immigration laws.
It's also not clear whether all of them were actually gang members.”
V.P. Vance - FORGET THE LAW
Vance said, reference a Supreme Court ruling, "The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it."
Trump/Vance plan on doing anything they want, illegal or not.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/j-d-vances-disregard-for-the-rule-of-law-court-rulings-balance-of-powers-bda0d4df
'Oopsie ... too late' Bukele wrote on X with a crying-laughing emoji
U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio retweeted the post."
⬆️ This should sicken every American. Rubio is a disgrace.
As Dr. King said, Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
https://bsky.app/profile/realityred.bsky.social/post/3lkiz5zv2bc2f
It's a captured and illegitimate court.
Four of them argued Trump has power of the purse over Congress
Openly admitting that you were trying to get away with something quickly because you KNEW it was illegal and would be shut down the instant a judge heard about it. Holy shit.
An anthem for our times! 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇨🇦
https://youtu.be/1q82twrdr0U
https://bsky.app/profile/bengoggin.bsky.social/post/3lkiwlysn4k2i
Miller I’m talking about
(Is that too hard an ask? 🤔)
"The administration's decision to defy a federal judge's order is exceedingly rare and highly controversial."
"The whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
Now, every Patriot has to answer this question:
"How will I respond?"
I feel like Noah trying to convince people that the flood is coming.
My community already understands this and are preparing for what's coming.
I wish I knew how to prepare. It’s distracting, the drip drip of each insidious new way they’ve dreamed up to inflict their cruelty.
Denigrating women, minorities, and the judicial system.
In military jargon, Trump is "softening up" the targets prior to making his ultimate move: declaring a national emergency, invoking the Insurrection Act, and instituting martial law.
Indivisible is planning a nationwide protest on April 5, along with a march in DC, I think. I’m considering it. It’s a tad scary.
"It's also not clear whether all of them were actually gang members."
Deported despite valid visa and an order to stay.
June 3, 2024
He was a speaker at CPAC, too.
Bukele's popularity in El Salvador is tied to his brutal arrests of more than 76,000 suspected gang members.
His biggest cheer came when he spoke about removing "corrupt" judges and prosecutors. The crowd chanted "USA" after that.
lol, lmao.
CJ Roberts created a monster with Trump. The monster won't stop at ignoring district and appellate courts; it will ignore Roberts too.
https://youtu.be/3K7tT4IYLr4?feature=shared
#MagnaCartaMoment
The Admin will argue that the deportations were necessary to maintain domestic order, and it will be able to persuade 5 Justices.
I guess we will all find out soon.
Answer: it won't, because it can't, because of ⤵️
What punishment is there if he doesn't comply?
Answer: absolutely none.